24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 646
G
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 646
when installing a buttplate or recoil pad on a new stock do you cut the stock at a slight angle to making mounting the gun slightly easier, I do on all my bird guns , but may not be necessary on a rifle.

GB1

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
Originally Posted by gunscrew
when installing a buttplate or recoil pad on a new stock do you cut the stock at a slight angle to making mounting the gun slightly easier, I do on all my bird guns , but may not be necessary on a rifle.


Right or wrong I cut mine 90 degrees to the bore.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 646
G
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 646
thats what i'm thinking so recoil will be straight back, sorry about terminology i'm referring to pitch.

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 901
M
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
M
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 901
What JSTUART said.

And as recoil goes up, so does my pickyness of pitch angle.


Winchester rifles and Swarovski scopes.
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 10,431
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 10,431
I'm flogging on a model 70 replacement stock right now, just touching it up to flatten it for a new pad. There's a little drop to the pre-70 butt, the final angle looks to be around 86 degrees from the bore, about, the fat side on top. About halfway between matching the butt drop and the bore. Don't have a finder in hand, but it's not 90 to the barrel. Call it "mild overbite?"
My GUESS is, a little bit of angle versus totally square helps mounting for some, plus upon recoil it might even ramp the gun down on your shoulder, meaning less cheek slap.
To ease mounting, what I will do is round off the upper corner of the pad.
Normally, I just try to match the existing angle unless it mounts poorly, feels wrong, or beats me up. And I usually take more off the top and leave more on the bottom, get it closer to square/bore. But I don't think I have any "underbite" long arms at all.


Up hills slow,
Down hills fast
Tonnage first and
Safety last.
IC B2

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 646
G
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 646
so you are saying the 86 degree angle makes the stock longer at the toe (bottom) and shorter at the heel (top). this is how I do shotgun stocks.

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,988
Likes: 3
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 7,988
Likes: 3
Curious about this myself. I've always cut them at 90 degrees to the boreline, but wondered if it was correct or not. I've checked a few factory butts and they have all been a bit different, but usually close to 90 except for some of the older vintage big bore rifles.


Never underestimate your ability to overestimate your ability.
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 843
Likes: 2
R
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
R
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 843
Likes: 2
The pitch should aprox 10 degrees. If you want to have the dog snot stomped out of you just under cut or make the stock cut square, for a gun over 12 ga recoil. Now you can get away with a low recoil cartridge like a 243, but if you climb over the fence towards high recoil you modify the recoil by cutting the heel slightly shorter than the toe. As Gunscrew and Sheister said.
Pad cut to the angle to match the stock line....Why a pad jig comes in handy with a flat bed mounted and motorized sander.


“To expect defeat is nine-tenths of defeat itself. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is best to plan for all eventualities then believe in success, and only cross the failure bridge if you come to it."
Francis Marion - The Swamp Fox
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
T
Campfire Member
Online Content
Campfire Member
T
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 431
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Rapier
The pitch should aprox 10 degrees. If you want to have the dog snot stomped out of you just under cut or make the stock cut square, for a gun over 12 ga recoil. Now you can get away with a low recoil cartridge like a 243, but if you climb over the fence towards high recoil you modify the recoil by cutting the heel slightly shorter than the toe. As Gunscrew and Sheister said.
Pad cut to the angle to match the stock line....Why a pad jig comes in handy with a flat bed mounted and motorized sander.

For a stock with a parallel comb, as many modern centerfire rifles seem to have, 10 deg pitch would seem pretty excessive. With early bolt actions such as the pre-64 M70 and Rem 721, with steeply sloping combs, that is probably closer to what you'll find.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 296
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 296
If you happen to be fitting a woman, greater pitch is called for. Women have (thank you, Jesus) breasts, and it is painful to shoot a gun that digs the toe into your chest on every shot.


NRA Endowment Member
Bolt&Barrel Gunsmithing, Greenwood, SC
www.boltandbarrel.com
U. S. Army Veteran
IC B3

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,943
G
GF1 Offline
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
G
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,943
The driver of pitch in a gunstock, shotgun or rifle, is that the butt bears evenly in the shoulder pocket with the gun mounted normally/correctly, not some formula or prescription. A bit of cast at toe may be much more comfortable for ladies or thick chested men.

Last edited by GF1; 09/19/23.

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

94 members (1100mag, B52RadarNav, 10Glocks, 35, 10gaugemag, AnthonyB, 10 invisible), 1,286 guests, and 927 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,748
Posts18,495,252
Members73,977
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.095s Queries: 36 (0.011s) Memory: 0.8439 MB (Peak: 0.9050 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-07 09:18:58 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS