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Skip the 300. Use the money saved to buy more practice ammo. Shoot a pointed 150 grainier in the 270. Use Partitions if you wanna be fancy. Elk are not bullet proof.
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Number one thing, shot placement. This means the rifle a person is most comfortable with. Be it 270 win or 300 what ever mag.
Stick with the basic elk bullets, partitions, fusions, power points and core-lokts. Last few years before federal ended up with Remington, the quality of the Remington brand ammo was, well not what it use to be.... Federal got'em straightend back out now.
As typed before, elk are not bullet proof..... Know your rifle, place shot in the right spot.
happiness is elbow deep in elk guts.
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Don't skimp on bullets, either the Barnes TTSX or Nosler partitions. Use a sturdy bullet. Either of those would be perfect.
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If it helps, I'll be packing 2 rifles to elk camp: 308 win shooting 165 Accubonds or 150 etips and a 270 win shooting 150 accubonds or Partitions. I haven't made final decisions yet....
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If it helps, I'll be packing 2 rifles to elk camp: 308 win shooting 165 Accubonds or 150 etips and a 270 win shooting 150 accubonds or Partitions. I haven't made final decisions yet.... It’s tough with such solid options.
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Skip the 300. Use the money saved to buy more practice ammo. Shoot a pointed 150 grainier in the 270. Use Partitions if you wanna be fancy. Elk are not bullet proof. I used a 270 for years and never had an elk walk away from it. Then I had a midlife crisis and traded it for a 'much better' 300 WSM. I used that for maybe 10 years and got a lot of elk with it. Then I re-evaluated it. Of all the elk I'd shot with it, not a single one couldn't have been taken just as well with a 30-06 that weighed a pound less. So, I went to a light weight '06 and it's killed elk 4 years running. It's a lot easier for an old guy to carry.
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I would take both rifles if you are travelling out of state.
The rifle I would shoulder firstly would be the one U felt most comfortable with.
My philosophy, the smaller the chambering
..the better the bullet and the Nosler Partition bullet will never fail to work as it was designed
The 150 or 160 N.P. is a real terminal performance overachiever in the .270 wcf, even on the big bulls
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I used a lot of PT's and Speer Hotcore 150's on elk when I used a 270. I couldn't tell any difference in performance. The Speers would deform more but the weight retention was about the same. I'd find either one under the skin on the far side so the penetration was the same.
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Those 200 grain Partitions in a 300 mag or 06 is really good stuff. Spot on advice. Don’t overlook that .270 with a 150gr Partition as an option.
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Gentlemen, I have a friend who has been going up to Montana and deer hunting for a few years and he got an elk tag this year. Me being a predator caller, hand loader and upland guy I only have some ideas for him and wanted to run some ideas passed you guys. He has decided on a Savage in 300 win mag, his deer rifle is a Savage 110 hunter in .270 win. I am thinking, Barnes TTSX, Nosler partitions, Federal Fusion and Remington Core-lokt. He plans on keeping his shots out to a max of 300 yards possibly 350 since that is what he is comfortable with an ethical shot. Any advice is apprecitated. I would pick the Nosler Partitions in both cartridges. In the .270 I would choose the 130 grain NP and in the .300 either the 180 or 200 grain NP would be my choice. Or if you want to be different, the North Forks in the same wights as above would be good choices.
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TTSX, Nos Part’s, and Core-lokts in that order, according to my experience — 12 bulls and a cow.
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Fusions would work too as they are bonded and won’t come apart. Just go on the heavier side. But For some of the prices I’ve seen on those, I’d spend the $ and go partition or accubonds. 140-150 for the 270, 180-200 for the 300. I agree with this. I have shot a few bucks with the Fusions and they worked well but they were designed for deer and probably work better at lower velocities than the 300 WM. With the price and time investment of hunting elk in Montana, I would spend the little bit more money to get the best bullet possible. I would use 175 gr. LRX, 180 Accubond, or 180 Partition. Unfortunately, this is not based on any elk experience; I have not been fortunate enough to shoot one.
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Based on bull elk and moose taken inCO-AZ & Alaska, shot placement as described with practice really works. I have had good luck with the 30-06 in pre-64 Model 70s or the M-71 in 348.
Practice with cheap bullets then use Noslers, Swifts, or Barnes-based on their accuracy in your rifle. Also use the 270 in a 1950s M-70. Back it up with another
early M-70 in 338-06. Nosler 225-250s were golden for elk in the 338-06. Will smoke and cure anything in N. America including bear.
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