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I think of it as a 22 hornet on steroids That'd be the .221 Fireball
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I think of it as a 22 hornet on steroids That'd be the .221 Fireball Yeah, I was completely wrong in my comment. I know I have heard that but shouldn't have said anything until I checked some data. My mistake.
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The Rock Island gun was not a 5.7x28 ' it was in .22TCM
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I have a T-C G2 barrel 16 1/2" long that handles my short range truck rifle needs without any fuss. And uses the same rounds as a "Winchester" 1885, a Savage combination gun, and Ruger, Colt, and S&W revolvers. Why add another fairly hard-to-find round, new dies, and reloading components to the clutter?
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I thought it'd be a cite groundhog popper in a Contender rifle. But have a 14" Ingram .22 mag bbl collecting dust. Might send it off to be threaded and silver solder an extension, make it 18". That w Bullberry wood would make a nice little zapper.
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I've had a 5.7 FN for several years now. The original version FN pistol weighs 19 ozs. empty. The 40 gr. V-Max ammo clocked 1740 fps. in my gun. Using my 12 inch long, 2.5 gallon water containers, it will blow the front half apart at 10 yds. The bullet fragments and the base of the jacket will dimple the back of the jug. It will group about 2 inches at 20 yds, and kicks with 40% of the recoil of a 9mm. I have found it an easy to carry field gun. I gave up trying to reload for it. Too critical and lots of brass flow. E
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So most good ammo is FN 27grain pills. There are some 40grain pills also. So making and ordering a barrel on the mgm site it gives you twist options. IT’s suggesting a1-14 twist. There are options for 1-7/1-8/-1-8 also but that for larger grain bullets that are not made in the 5.7x28 chambering. So! What twist rate would you go with in the 5.7x28?
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I'm very interested in getting a rifle in 5.7. My use is kinda specific. I usually hunt a large pasture with shots out to ~400 yards and a variety of game up to and including nilgai. So my primary rifle is a 7mm rem mag with a Dead Air Nomad suppressor. I have a corn feeder ~20 yards from my blind that is usually bogarted by hogs which I shoot at every opportunity, head shots exclusively. Ideally, I want to be able to kill pigs close up as quietly as possible so I don't scare off any other game in the pasture. I have experimented with other calibers and combo's. I have on occasion shot a pig with a 5.56 AR with the can and deer grazing within 50 yards. The pig sounder always dips out but arguably less vigorously than they do when un-suppressed. The deer look but have not spooked in this scenario, they just go back to grazing.
I also have a SilencerCo Sparrow .22 can that is rated for 5.7 use. I'd like to acquire a 5.7 rifle of some type to put the Sparrow on and kill pigs via 20 yard head shots. I have a TC Contender which is a viable option but MGM, BBW and EABCO barrels are ~$500. I'd also slightly prefer a repeater for follow-up shots to whack multiples. In my experience, the sounder will scatter with the first shot but when using a suppressor, they usually run a little ways slowly before stopping to look around and presenting second shots.
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How about a 223 bolt gun shooting suppressed, subsonic loads?
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A bolt action!!???? Who made them? I believe it was Rock Island. The Philippine company. They made a .22 TCM rifle. Never saw one in 5.7. Those rifles seemed a bit rough around the edges, but might be handy for someone with a .22 TCM pistol Keep in mind that the .22TCM cartridge was developed by Freddy Craig as a pistol round, a role in which it excels. Then, instead of adapting it to a new auto loading carbine, the Philippine factory chose to chamber it in an existing bolt rifle design (from which most people expect precision shooting). However, as of a few years ago, credible information had it that a 2” 5 shot group at 50 yards was accepted by the factory as being within their .22TCM bolt rifle performance standards. Not exactly awe inspiring, eh? But, hopefully that has changed by now. Because, last I heard, they were looking at balancing rifling twist rate with bullet characteristics and propellant charge.
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Sounds like that 22 Win Mag barrel would be a good candidate for a 218 Bee conversion for a Contender. The Bee is a very good round and reloadable so the cost of shooting goes down not up.
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CMMG makes a few options from 5inch to 6- to 8inch in pistols. And then the 16inch rifle. I think the 8inch would give great velocities.
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