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I've had an Ares BTR on my CTR 6.5CM for a couple of years now and it's been great. So has the Helos that rides on my McWhorter 7-08. They work as advertised IME......just the way it is. where do you think the glass quality of a Arken EPL or ep5 comparison those two athlon models I ordered the ETR, the BTR goes for about $300 less retail price. They're both awesome, but this glass is better than the BTR I've used. ETRBTR
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To my 63 yr old eyeballs, the EPL4 is on par with the Ares, easily. Then again I don't have any problem with the Helos optics at all either. The Helos is great for hunting, but the glass difference compared to more expensive scopes is noticable to me, especially past 800
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It is, but you feel like you need a shower after buying a Chinese scope. ☹️ A shower and your head examined
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A shower and your head examined As little as he shoots, he could put a toilet paper roll atop his gun, and he wouldn’t notice a difference.
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A shower and your head examined The whole shoot, measure with reticle how far down and left you are, dial, shoot again, and, bam, zero'd nuts-on thing made it less traumatic though. 😉
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A shower and your head examined As little as he shoots, he could put a toilet paper roll atop his gun, and he wouldn’t notice a difference. Yes, you nailed it there Mr Internet commando. GFY
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I've had an Ares BTR on my CTR 6.5CM for a couple of years now and it's been great. So has the Helos that rides on my McWhorter 7-08. They work as advertised IME......just the way it is. Which one do you have, the 2.5-15 or the 4.5-27?
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A shower and your head examined As little as he shoots, he could put a toilet paper roll atop his gun, and he wouldn’t notice a difference. Yes, you nailed it there Mr Internet commando. GFY Happy New Year Buddy
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You too. I hope you realize the GFY was directed at someone else. 😉
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A shower and your head examined As little as he shoots, he could put a toilet paper roll atop his gun, and he wouldn’t notice a difference. I might shoot a little
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I've had an Ares BTR on my CTR 6.5CM for a couple of years now and it's been great. So has the Helos that rides on my McWhorter 7-08. They work as advertised IME......just the way it is. where do you think the glass quality of a Arken EPL or ep5 comparison those two athlon models I ordered the ETR, the BTR goes for about $300 less retail price. They're both awesome, but this glass is better than the BTR I've used. ETRBTRI was kind of under the impression the differences in the two models where they reticles.. am I wrong I guess I am
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I was kind of under the impression the differences in the two models where they reticles.. am I wrong I guess I am You'll notice how they tout the glass in the description of the ETR series on their website as their UHD glass like the Cronus line, and don't on the BTR, which has (really good) HD glass. That's the price difference, not the reticle.
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I was kind of under the impression the differences in the two models where they reticles.. am I wrong I guess I am You'll notice how they tout the glass in the description of the ETR series on their website as their UHD glass like the Cronus line, and don't on the BTR, which has (really good) HD glass. That's the price difference, not the reticle. ,👍
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I've had an Ares BTR on my CTR 6.5CM for a couple of years now and it's been great. So has the Helos that rides on my McWhorter 7-08. They work as advertised IME......just the way it is. Which one do you have, the 2.5-15 or the 4.5-27? 4.5x27. I personally don't use 34mm tubes which is why I use this over the ETR. It's on my CTR 6.5CM that I fool around with dialing and whacking pigs mostly. I've culled a few whitetail does with it as well.
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I was kind of under the impression the differences in the two models where they reticles.. am I wrong I guess I am You'll notice how they tout the glass in the description of the ETR series on their website as their UHD glass like the Cronus line, and don't on the BTR, which has (really good) HD glass. That's the price difference, not the reticle. That and the 34mm vs 30mm tube on the BTR. My son has the Cronus on his CTR 260Rem. It's fantastic all the way around.
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4.5x27. I personally don't use 34mm tubes which is why I use this over the ETR. It's on my CTR 6.5CM that I fool around with dialing and whacking pigs mostly. I've culled a few whitetail does with it as well. How easy is it to get behind in prone or "odd" positions? Pretty forgiving eye box, or no? I've only looked through the 2.5-15, and a friend was asking about the 4.5-27 and I've never looked through one. He likes the higher top end magnification. If I may ask, why no 34mm tubes? Weight?
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am I understand this later conversation correct ETR versus BTR is also 30 mm tube versus 34 mm tube?
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am I understand this later conversation correct ETR versus BTR is also 30 mm tube versus 34 mm tube? Yes. 34mm tube on the Ares ETR line, including the 1-10x LPVO
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30mm tubes give me all the adjustment I'm interested in, that's all. That BTR is a bit finicky at max mags, like lots of scopes are. I don't really need 27x, but the view at 22-24x is quite nice and easy to use so that's about where it maxes out for me. As long as I can kill what I'm shooting at, at the magnification I need, I don't sweat it too much.
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30mm tubes give me all the adjustment I'm interested in, that's all. That BTR is a bit finicky at max mags, like lots of scopes are. I don't really need 27x, but the view at 22-24x is quite nice and easy to use so that's about where it maxes out for me. As long as I can kill what I'm shooting at, at the magnification I need, I don't sweat it too much. Yeah, and, it's been my experience that some higher mag scopes have a great eye box at, say 18x (on a scope with a 25-30x top end) compared to a scope maxed at 18x. My buddy does the prairie dog thing a lot more than I do, and I think he considers a 6-30x "lower power" these days.....
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