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308 175 grain #18809266 10/02/23
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,282 Ohio Armednfree OP Campfire Outfitter
OP Armednfree Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,282 Ohio	Quick Question: What is your best load for a 175 grain Matchking in a 308. I'm shooting a 1995? vintage M700 VSSF. (I think 1995 or so, don't really remember.) The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809270 10/02/23
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana
bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born	Quick answer^^ Load worked up when it was cold as schidt outside: The first target pic was to verify at a higher temp.. Load was also verified at 400 yards: Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809277 10/02/23
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rainshot Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 12,050 Likes: 4 Texas	Lookin good!!

Re: 308 175 grain bsa1917hunter #18809281 10/02/23
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,282 Ohio Armednfree OP Campfire Outfitter
OP Armednfree Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,282 Ohio	Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Quick answer^^ Load worked up when it was cold as schidt outside: The first target pic was to verify at a higher temp.. Have you fired that load in warmer weather? The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809285 10/02/23
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Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,919 Likes: 2 SE_WI	Sierra #2275 175 hpbt MK 0.496 bc Lapua case Reloader 15, 42.5gr 2.785" coal .015--.018" jump Federal 210M 2750 fps 15 foot from muzzle chrono. This load is current A+ match load all yards. Winner at 1000 yard Load for 95 Palma chamber, 29" 3 groove PacNor bbl. Is my 308 Win FTR gun GOA

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Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809296 10/02/23
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana
bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born	Originally Posted by Armednfree Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Quick answer^^ Load worked up when it was cold as schidt outside: The first target pic was to verify at a higher temp.. Have you fired that load in warmer weather? Warmer than 95 degrees? Nope.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809302 10/02/23
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AcesNeights Campfire Ranger A Joined: May 2008 Posts: 25,528 Likes: 4 Valhalla SE AK & WA	Originally Posted by Armednfree Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Quick answer^^ Load worked up when it was cold as schidt outside: The first target pic was to verify at a higher temp.. Have you fired that load in warmer weather? Warmer than 95? The first pic of BSA’s is the load at 95 while the second picture is the same load (45.5 CFE223) shot when it was 25* out….a 70* temperature swing with the same load. 👍🏼 �Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr. --------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: 308 175 grain AcesNeights #18809318 10/02/23
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana
bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,127 Likes: 12 Battle Born	Originally Posted by AcesNeights Originally Posted by Armednfree Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Quick answer^^ Load worked up when it was cold as schidt outside: The first target pic was to verify at a higher temp.. Have you fired that load in warmer weather? Warmer than 95? The first pic of BSA’s is the load at 95 while the second picture is the same load (45.5 CFE223) shot when it was 25* out….a 70* temperature swing with the same load. 👍🏼 I was pretty happy to see that it was still shooting well with that much temp increase. I do know that when I was working on loads, 47gr was too much. Even at 24 degrees f. During load development, and testing, the rifle had stiff bolt lift for about 3 out of 10 shots. Load was damn accurate, but if it's showing signs of overpressure, I back off: I even tested that load out to 400 yards: Velocity on that load was 2,760-2780 fps and book max shows 2,700 with a 24" barrel. The winchester HV I was shooting has a 26" barrel. I believe the 47gr load would have been way overpressure at 95 degrees, since it was showing pressure signs at 24-26 degrees.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809433 10/02/23
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gunzo Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,645 Likes: 2 Kentuck	175 SMK over a mild load of Varget ignited with a Fed lg. match primer. 2.810 OAL in a Lapua case. Rem mil-spec 5R. Shoots in the 4's I took notes from a Brad Suave article in the 308 Win. cartridge section at 6mmbr.com. & it worked for me.

Re: 308 175 grain Mr_TooDogs #18809456 10/02/23
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mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,869 Likes: 5	Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs Sierra #2275 175 hpbt MK 0.496 bc Lapua case Reloader 15, 42.5gr 2.785" coal .015--.018" jump Federal 210M 2750 fps 15 foot from muzzle chrono. This load is current A+ match load all yards. Winner at 1000 yard Load for 95 Palma chamber, 29" 3 groove PacNor bbl. Is my 308 Win FTR gun The OP will probably have to up the charge weight. If his 700 is like the half dozen I own it's throat will be much deeper than that 95 Palma chamber.

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Re: 308 175 grain gunzo #18809557 10/02/23
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,919 Likes: 2 SE_WI Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter
Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,919 Likes: 2 SE_WI	Originally Posted by gunzo 175 SMK over a mild load of Varget ignited with a Fed lg. match primer. 2.810 OAL in a Lapua case. Rem mil-spec 5R. Shoots in the 4's I took notes from a Brad Suave article in the 308 Win. cartridge section at 6mmbr.com. & it worked for me. I kinda did too. Substituted Re15 for the Varget. My goal of 2750 fps muzzle was to ensure supersonic at 1k yards. Quote Tips from Brad Sauve, 2004 F-TR Nat'l Champion With my .308, I tried A LOT of different loads in the first 600 rounds, starting with 42.0-44.5 N150 for the first 200 rounds, then moving to 44.0-45.0 Varget for the next 300 rounds. I tried different bullets (Sierra 175 MKs both moly and naked, Nosler 180gr Ballistic Tips, 175gr Bergers), different cases (Lapua, Federal), primers (Rem, CCI BR, Fed Match), and, oh yes, seating depths (on the lands to 0.10" off, and several distances in between). Even after 500 rounds of testing, I still wasn't satisfied, and frankly, I was growing weary. I finally found my "sweetheart" load on February 14, 2000 (Valentines Day), almost seven months after getting the rifle. This is the load I still shoot today and I shot all weekend at the F-Class Nationals. The break-through came when I discovered that slower velocities produced outstanding accuracy. I found that Varget pushing a 175 SMK at about 2610 fps delivered quarter-MOA groups out to 300 yards and half-minute or better groups beyond that distance. Since developing that load, I've used Lapua cases and Russian primers, but the core elements, 43.0 grains Varget with 175 MKs seated 0.018" off the lands, has not changed. GOA

Re: 308 175 grain Mr_TooDogs #18809590 10/02/23
Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,645 Likes: 2 Kentuck G gunzo Campfire Outfitter
gunzo Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,645 Likes: 2 Kentuck	Yep! kinda the easy button. I bumped my charge a bit over Suaves to compensate for the 24" barrel & generous throat on my Remington. Haven't shot it at 1000, but all my come ups to 850 indicate my dope is correct & should go subsonic @~1100.

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809770 10/02/23
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Tyrone Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 14,729 Likes: 2	45gr of Varget is a good one. Politics is War by Other Means

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809773 10/02/23
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deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida	Damn. A "vintage VSSF." LOL Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809820 10/02/23
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JStor Campfire Regular J Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 682 MN	I use 43.5 grs. Varget in Lapua cases with the 175 gr. Sierra in my Model 70 Sharpshooter. Years ago I used 44.5 grs. but had to drop down a bit with a different powder lot number...started getting head expansion on some brass. The rifle seems happy and groups well using 2.810 inch overal length.

Re: 308 175 grain deflave #18809887 10/02/23
Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,645 Likes: 2 Kentuck G gunzo Campfire Outfitter
gunzo Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,645 Likes: 2 Kentuck	Yeah? A wonderment. But guess it did reveal one pertinent, those had a 26" barrel.

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18809915 10/02/23
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ldholton Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,578 Likes: 6 lawrence county MO	not sure if it's going to be the best. but just last night I was working on some 178 grain hornady match bullets. an accurate 2460 is looking awful good. 42.5 grains CCI 250 primer was giving me 2619 FPS shooting 1/2 to 3/4 in groups. without any seating depth adjustment yet just running at 2.800 as the book suggest. I can't get near the lands and feed through the magazine anyway so that's where I started.. I guess I should add that was a PMC case. I think 24-in barrel I have to measure it to be sure and currently I'm not near it. but it was the Ruger American go wild series Last edited by ldholton; 10/02/23.

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18810092 10/02/23
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dye7barrel Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 10,960 Likes: 1 Washington	Another vote for RL15 and Varget.

Re: 308 175 grain Armednfree #18810142 10/02/23
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gunzo Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,645 Likes: 2 Kentuck	The 6.5's & 6's might shoot further without going subsonic & recoil less, the 308 takes over after that. Clean,clean ,clean the bores on those, a lot. 308 go twice as long while not caring. Barrels? The 308 might need one at double the rounds, might not. I have high BC 6's & 6.5's, love em. They out perform in some ways. But the 308 is such a stalwart here I feel I have keep it around.

Re: 308 175 grain bsa1917hunter #18817543 10/05/23
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,282 Ohio Armednfree OP Campfire Outfitter
OP Armednfree Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,282 Ohio	Thanks for the advice buddy. My groups are similar to yours. I did a ladder by .5 grains starting at your recommended 45.5 grains. I shot that into a group identical to yours. Ten 46 grains worked very well. 46.5 and 47 grains look good except by the time I shot them I had the sun blasting just above the backstop washing out the scope. That even with a 5 inch sun shade, that bright. The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.

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