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Have you actually tried sabots? ALL of my 1:48's shoot 240-250gr XTP's very well with between 70 and 100gr loose 777. One does ok with 300's, as well. This includes my Lyman Deerstalker. Because of the barrel length, I keep that one at 90gr of powder. I think a longer barrel is better for larger charges. Now, slower than a 1:48 will almost certainly present issues. I am in Pa too. The late season is good for finding them in their beds, but otherwise just stinks. I agree that the early season should include bucks, too. I get the idea that the game commission guys must not hunt....

Very nice! Hope you get to burn some powder during hunting season!

Very nice

Never had any inlines myself. Sidelocks only.
I was thinking about having a one-and-only
rifle built some years ago after I'd been using
and hunting with B.P. guns for a few years,
but even back then all the buildings I'd talked
to only wanted to turn out really nice top end
highly embellished and artistic masterpieces.
Nobody wanted to build a rifle to drag through
the briars and creek bottoms with a plain
stock with no figure and no inlays and such.
Used to could buy a suitable factory made
job that would work fine with maybe the
smallest of tweaking and clean up.
All that stuff is fairly rare these days.
Seemed to start after Turner Kirkland
left the building

Very nice

Never had any inlines myself. Sidelocks only.
I was thinking about having a one-and-only
rifle built some years ago after I'd been using
and hunting with B.P. guns for a few years,
but even back then all the builders I'd talked
to only wanted to turn out really nice top end
highly embellished and artistic masterpieces.
Nobody wanted to build a rifle to drag through
the briars and creek bottoms with a plain
stock with no figure and no inlays and such.
Used to could buy a suitable factory made
job that would work fine with maybe the
smallest of tweaking and clean up.
All that stuff is fairly rare these days.
Seemed to start after Turner Kirkland
left the building

A "poor boy" is a common build these days, and you can even get semi finished kits in that style from some of the upper end kit makers. No bells and whistles, just pure function. I like building a plain rifle myself. Iron mountings, semi fancy or plain wood. Something the common man would have had built back in the day.

This is my plain Jane 50 cal. The wood turned out with a lot more curl then I thought it had. Lefthanded Siler lock, 42 inch Paris & Sons Swamped 50 Caliber, and parts I pickup here and there.

This is my wife's Rifle, she wanted something a little more than plain. Small Siler lock, 38 inch Douglas 45 Caliber barrel.

Very nice rifles.

thank you