Some of you skeptics about use and tactics related to shotguns crack me up. AND at the same time illustrate your ignorance about shotguns and what they can do. SheriffJoe’s preceding comment is perfectly rational. First objective in a gunfight is to disable your opponent, not to kill them. Doing both ain’t a bad thing of course, but give this a thought: The bad guy is wearing full armor over chest, abdomen, and a helmet with face plate. Were ya gonna shoot’m? Would the shot size matter at a range of 25’? Does your gun fit you properly and are you functional with instinctive shooting?
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
I load lead 4&5’s in my ground squirrel rattlesnake ready shotgun but will load 8’s if I have time for a snake. It’s my close at hand selling stuff on Craigslist insurance as well. I recommend that when people ask & tell them a shotgun is fun to shoot trap & practical in every respect if you only have 1 gun. A cheap duck load will be just as deadly at 20’ as anything you can shoot & less likely to damage anything else.
I have a bunch of Navy Seal buckshot that works for coyotes out past 75 yards - not needed at self defense ranges.
Some of you skeptics about use and tactics related to shotguns crack me up. AND at the same time illustrate your ignorance about shotguns and what they can do. SheriffJoe’s preceding comment is perfectly rational. First objective in a gunfight is to disable your opponent, not to kill them. Doing both ain’t a bad thing of course, but give this a thought: The bad guy is wearing full armor over chest, abdomen, and a helmet with face plate. Were ya gonna shoot’m? Would the shot size matter at a range of 25’? Does your gun fit you properly and are you functional with instinctive shooting?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
Some of you skeptics about use and tactics related to shotguns crack me up. AND at the same time illustrate your ignorance about shotguns and what they can do. SheriffJoe’s preceding comment is perfectly rational. First objective in a gunfight is to disable your opponent, not to kill them. Doing both ain’t a bad thing of course, but give this a thought: The bad guy is wearing full armor over chest, abdomen, and a helmet with face plate. Were ya gonna shoot’m? Would the shot size matter at a range of 25’? Does your gun fit you properly and are you functional with instinctive shooting?
If you can't shoot them in the lungs, then shoot them in the leg. Says Biden...
My last comment on this. One of the farms we bird hunt on was heavily timbered about 10 years ago, The owner lets us hunt if we don't kill too many and if we fill all our extra doe tags and give them to his hired help.
These cut overs are miserable to hunt but quail love them because they afford cover from everything trying to eat them.
Deer are the same and you about have to step on them to get them up. We kill around 12 deer every year there using mostly A5's and high brass bird shot out to about 15 yards.
Center mass hit from a load of 8 or 9 bird shot never fails to anchor deer at that range. And we usually have to dig the wad out.
Normally I have both buckshot as well as slugs carried on the side saddle carrier for the Browning Auto-5. Not much in terms of realistic home defense issues that it should not be able to handle.
The old Ithica is one I am slowly working on. Much lighter, it has nice handling qualities.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
Some of you skeptics about use and tactics related to shotguns crack me up. AND at the same time illustrate your ignorance about shotguns and what they can do. SheriffJoe’s preceding comment is perfectly rational. First objective in a gunfight is to disable your opponent, not to kill them. Doing both ain’t a bad thing of course, but give this a thought: The bad guy is wearing full armor over chest, abdomen, and a helmet with face plate. Were ya gonna shoot’m? Would the shot size matter at a range of 25’? Does your gun fit you properly and are you functional with instinctive shooting?
In the face. Or chest. That amount of energy is gonna HURT.
Am I the only one who thinks all of this talk about penetrating walls is ridiculous? You are shooting a shotgun at inside the house ranges. Hit the goddam target, not walls. If you aren't confident that you can do that, account for the presence of family before you pull the trigger.
One or more armed Perps in your home waking you from a dead sleep is a fluid environment to say the very least. Actions won't be scripted, plus you will have zero knowledge your family members are where you last saw them. House shootout Walking Tall remake? Strong chances are it will be closer to that. Anything you prepare for/ eliminate beforehand is effort well spent.
Oh, and yes, you are the only one.
Looks like you didn't really think your comment through. Not at all a surprise.
My last comment on this. One of the farms we bird hunt on was heavily timbered about 10 years ago, The owner lets us hunt if we don't kill too many and if we fill all our extra doe tags and give them to his hired help.
These cut overs are miserable to hunt but quail love them because they afford cover from everything trying to eat them.
Deer are the same and you about have to step on them to get them up. We kill around 12 deer every year there using mostly A5's and high brass bird shot out to about 15 yards.
Center mass hit from a load of 8 or 9 bird shot never fails to anchor deer at that range. And we usually have to dig the wad out.
Yes. As I stated above, working for years as a paramedic, nothing is more lethal than a load of #8 bird shot at 15 feet. Stomach or chest, doesn't matter. I worked 14 such cases and all died.
Where did you get the extension tube for the humpback?
I set that up in the 90s for three gun comps. In fact I used that A5 in the SOF 3 gun world championship in 99 I think it was. The mag extension was for another brand. Maybe Benelli, but I cannot recall. It gives me 7+1 while still being short enough to be maneuverable and practical.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
Shot through the front end of a coyote once at about 8 yards. #5 shot from my 10 bore.
Wad was hanging out of the exit hole.
So much for "bird shot" not penetrating.
I have shot a good number of other furry critters, coons, possums, cats, etc with bird shot from BB to 7 1/2 shot. Anything under 25' or so is a complete mess.
Get a handful of chokes from XX full to imp cyl or cylinder bore and at under 25' there isn't near as much difference in spread of the shot as some would think.
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The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Always used 2-3/4” #4 lead. Seems to make large messes whenever it’s used. Grandad killed a bear, in the chicken coop, at 3 yards with it. Good enough for me.
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