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I don't follow NZ politics because why the fawk would I? But, honest question time. What does conservative mean in New Zealand? Liberal Light?


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Originally Posted by hillestadj
I don't follow NZ politics because why the fawk would I? But, honest question time. What does conservative mean in New Zealand? Liberal Light?

We're all in this together. Conservative in NZ means good, old school values, where hard work is rewarded. The same as it does in any western democracy or used to. Means pulling the plug on the left pro racist idiots and all their anti democratic agendas.


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I'll put New Zealand back on the very short list of places I wouldn't mind living for a while.nice to see them pull up before they crashed bad. They must run their elections differently than we do ours; otherwise how could a conservative win.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I'll put New Zealand back on the very short list of places I wouldn't mind living for a while.nice to see them pull up before they crashed bad. They must run their elections differently than we do ours; otherwise how could a conservative win.

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It's a decent place to visit.


It would be hard to live there.


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What is it that he is realistically expected to accomplish? Ardern was rubbish by my assessment, and frankly both NZ and AUS bros have a lot of liberty to reclaim... but that's their fitna to be had.

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Originally Posted by Esteban325
What is it that he is realistically expected to accomplish? Ardern was rubbish by my assessment, and frankly both NZ and AUS bros have a lot of liberty to reclaim... but that's their fitna to be had.


Sounds cool...what liberty do you think we have lost that you haven't?


I mean, damn man...I still do the same things I did as a teenager.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I'll put New Zealand back on the very short list of places I wouldn't mind living for a while.nice to see them pull up before they crashed bad. They must run their elections differently than we do ours; otherwise how could a conservative win.

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It's a decent place to visit.


It would be hard to live there.

It's expensive but worth it particularly if you like the outdoors. Deer hunting all year round. Some of the best trout fishing in the world. Crystal clear lakes and streams and all the freedom you could want.


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All the freedom I could want.......hmmm.


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JSTUART, you folks down under dodged a good one yesterday. I was relieved to hear the “No” side carried the voice referendum.

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The sad thing is, less than half of the voters voted conservative. This means the more than half the people are still living in their own dream world of rainbows and lolipops. If the conservative government provides real leadership and is fiscally conservative and socially responsible, they might increase their support. If, as so often happens, they go off the rails, the leftists will be back.
Fiscal conservatism is especially difficult for governments to adhere to. Even Donald Trump was a deficit spender. GD

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He ain't no Muldoon.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
He ain't no Muldoon.


He may not be piggy Muldoon but he will be better than the pandering clown we have and the horse faced bitch they had.


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Trudeau would likely declare a state of emergency and stay in power because Canada can't survive without his awesomeness.


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News flash. Every country in the west swings back and forth Liberal - Conservative has for decades will the same. Comes to its senses? Not really the pendulum just swung back for now.

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Originally Posted by dirt99
News flash. Every country in the west swings back and forth Liberal - Conservative has for decades will the same. Comes to its senses? Not really the pendulum just swung back for now.
Not really, this country seems to swing between Democrat and Democrat Lite. We very rarely get anyone I would consider a Conservative. The Left just rapes the language and labels anyone who isn't a hard core Socialist or Communist as a "Conservative". That's why you look back after 20-30 years and can't recognize the country. We're either losing ground or kind of holding the line. We rarely make any headway in the right direction. We're just goosestepping and racketing towards Hell with an occasional pause.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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He ain't no Muldoon.


He may not be piggy Muldoon but he will be better than the pandering clown we have and the horse faced bitch they had.

Damn...Labor Party?


I thought you guys had a conservative PM at the moment.


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Nice thing is that Ardern left at precisely the right time for the left and the greenies to be able to hang NZ's problems around the necks of the conservatives.


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Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Originally Posted by dirt99
News flash. Every country in the west swings back and forth Liberal - Conservative has for decades will the same. Comes to its senses? Not really the pendulum just swung back for now.
Not really, this country seems to swing between Democrat and Democrat Lite. We very rarely get anyone I would consider a Conservative. The Left just rapes the language and labels anyone who isn't a hard core Socialist or Communist as a "Conservative". That's why you look back after 20-30 years and can't recognize the country. We're either losing ground or kind of holding the line. We rarely make any headway in the right direction. We're just goosestepping and racketing towards Hell with an occasional pause.

The definitions are definitely open to interpretation. Hard core lefties would say the same in reverse.
Pretty much a given tho that NZ's new govt will be a definite departure from the left. For now.

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