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There is a store in the Midwest called Fleet Farm that is selling the Speer 100gr. #1220 for $21.99 + tax . They are right on the shelves in many stores. They are right next to the Hornady 100 Gr. and they are $29.99 + tax. We only shot one deer with it but it sure did the trick . A big doe at 50 yds and it was down in 40'


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I picked some up for a .270, .308/30-06, .243, .223. They're a good price on a decent C&C bullet.


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They shoot well but are soft.

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Yep. Unlike Speer Hot-Cors, which have molten lead of a relatively hard alloy injected inside their jackets, the boattails are formed by swaging the jacket around a relatively soft-alloy core. This often does result in finer accuracy, but they don't penetrate as reliably as Hor-Cors, especially on bone--which is why they tend to work more consistently when started at moderate muzzle velocities, especially at closer ranges.


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That makes sense about being soft. We only shot one deer with it , but it worked fine. We found the bullet in 2 pieces, the core was seperated , but almost went all the way through a big sized doe. It was hit very high and forward , almost a neck shot but hit bone. It was a lower velocity .243 Win. round in a 16" barrel so the vel. was not very fast ,, but it did work. Would you posters still use the bullet?


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A buddy of mine has been using them since back in the '80s.

Dead deer and coyotes, no complaints.

They seem to act like a Sierra Gameking.

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When I rifle hunt this year I may use them in a 6Grendel. 2630 fps should be just right.


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Originally Posted by ihookem
That makes sense about being soft. We only shot one deer with it , but it worked fine. We found the bullet in 2 pieces, the core was seperated , but almost went all the way through a big sized doe. It was hit very high and forward , almost a neck shot but hit bone. It was a lower velocity .243 Win. round in a 16" barrel so the vel. was not very fast ,, but it did work. Would you posters still use the bullet?


I'd use it in a 16" barrel since it isn't smoking out of there.

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One of my favorite loads for my 240 Wby was with their 105 spitzer, a very good bullet for deer but…….discontinued a while back. 😡


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One of my favorite loads for my 240 Wby was with their 105 spitzer, a very good bullet for deer but…….discontinued a while back. 😡

That seems to be the fate of several very good deer bullets! mad

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I'm shooting a 243 in a 16inch Ruger american. I've always had good luck with 100 hornady interlocks,95 nosler bt, and 100 sierra pro hunter. I'm getting 2650 fps. I've shot the speers years back with no problem. All my shots are less than 100yds. All bullets will work as lon as you hit them in the boiler room.

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Originally Posted by Hotshot828
I'm shooting a 243 in a 16inch Ruger american. I've always had good luck with 100 hornady interlocks,95 nosler bt, and 100 sierra pro hunter. I'm getting 2650 fps. I've shot the speers years back with no problem. All my shots are less than 100yds. All bullets will work as lon as you hit them in the boiler room.

So your 243 and my 6 Grendel are getting nearly the same velocity out of 16" barrels?


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Looks that way.
Might slow my load down a bit.


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I've killed a few with that bullet in my 243 with a hot load of RL26. I found them accurate, and had all bang flops for me with two finger exit holes.

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Originally Posted by navlav8r
One of my favorite loads for my 240 Wby was with their 105 spitzer, a very good bullet for deer but…….discontinued a while back. 😡

Yeah, the old .243 cal Speer 105 gr HotCor spitzer was a great deer bullet out of .243s, 6mms, and the 240 Wby. I guess the next best one they have now for deer in that caliber is the 100 gr Grand Slam.

I was one of the main wounded game trackers in our old hunting club and I don't remember ever having to track one shot with the Speer 105 gr HotCor, but LOTS shot with other .243 cal bullets (except for NPT's). This was back before bonded core and good monolithic bullets were generally available. Unless a person was somebody known to be a serious hunter that was very careful with shot placement, I hated to see folks show up with anything .243/6mm cal.


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Originally Posted by navlav8r
One of my favorite loads for my 240 Wby was with their 105 spitzer, a very good bullet for deer but…….discontinued a while back. 😡

Yeah, the old .243 cal Speer 105 gr HotCor spitzer was a great deer bullet out of .243s, 6mms, and the 240 Wby. I guess the next best one they have now for deer in that caliber is the 100 gr Grand Slam.

I was one of the main wounded game trackers in our old hunting club and I don't remember ever having to track one shot with the Speer 105 gr HotCor, but LOTS shot with other .243 cal bullets (except for NPT's). This was back before bonded core and good monolithic bullets were generally available. Unless a person was somebody known to be a serious hunter that was very careful with shot placement, I hated to see folks show up with anything .243/6mm cal.

Sloppy shot placement from any cartridge is going to result in wounded deer. Poor marksmen aren't likely to shoot harder recoiling rifles better than a .243 and simple horsepower in a bad spot doesn't anchor game better than a properly placed .243 bullet.


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Originally Posted by devnull
They shoot well but are soft.

My experience also. I killed a bunch of deer with the 105 gr. Speer and it killed well. However, I prefer the 100 gr. Hornady Interlock and the 95 gr. Nosler BT. In common cup n' core bullets I think the latter two are a bit tougher penetrate better and are more likely to exit.


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Originally Posted by Skeezix
Originally Posted by navlav8r
One of my favorite loads for my 240 Wby was with their 105 spitzer, a very good bullet for deer but…….discontinued a while back. 😡

Yeah, the old .243 cal Speer 105 gr HotCor spitzer was a great deer bullet out of .243s, 6mms, and the 240 Wby. I guess the next best one they have now for deer in that caliber is the 100 gr Grand Slam.

I was one of the main wounded game trackers in our old hunting club and I don't remember ever having to track one shot with the Speer 105 gr HotCor, but LOTS shot with other .243 cal bullets (except for NPT's). This was back before bonded core and good monolithic bullets were generally available. Unless a person was somebody known to be a serious hunter that was very careful with shot placement, I hated to see folks show up with anything .243/6mm cal.
Bonded and mono mean tougher, no thanks, not on a small animal.

Last thing I want in a bullet killing an animal of 250# or less is tough.

If a person isn't getting DRT or a 20 yard death run with a 243/6mm he isn't hitting the animal correctly or is using a railroad spike tough bullet.

Give me a semi soft bullet in any deer cartridge and tracking becomes a non issue if one must shoot "for the lungs".


My personal feelings are the .22 and .24 calibers get a bad reputation because people want to use a tougher bullet because it's a smaller caliber. If I want a decent sized hole in a critter from a smaller caliber I need a bullet that opens somewhat in a hurry, not explosive but quick expanding.

Quick expansion=quick kills. Part of the reason Partitions are quick killers, that front core is very soft.

Don't even begin to tell me about the "excessive" meat loss. I hardly consider 5# at most from a larger deer excessive meat loss.

I grew up seeing deer killed with 222 and the hot 22s through .243/6mm. The big gun to me was a 25-06. All killed pretty quickly with the 243/6mm and a 100 grain BTSP Sierra or 22-250 with a 55 grain BTSP Sierra. The guys used the same rifles and bullet that they coyote hunted with when running hounds. Nobody seemed to complain that they needed more horsepower or a "tougher" bullet.

My favorite still to this day for my 6mm Remington is the 85 grain Sierra Varminter SP, kills like lightening and will fully penetrate on 99% of broadside shots. If you trail it's about a 20 yard walk and really don't need to follow blood although it is there.

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Originally Posted by Skeezix
Originally Posted by navlav8r
One of my favorite loads for my 240 Wby was with their 105 spitzer, a very good bullet for deer but…….discontinued a while back. 😡

Yeah, the old .243 cal Speer 105 gr HotCor spitzer was a great deer bullet out of .243s, 6mms, and the 240 Wby. I guess the next best one they have now for deer in that caliber is the 100 gr Grand Slam.

I was one of the main wounded game trackers in our old hunting club and I don't remember ever having to track one shot with the Speer 105 gr HotCor, but LOTS shot with other .243 cal bullets (except for NPT's). This was back before bonded core and good monolithic bullets were generally available. Unless a person was somebody known to be a serious hunter that was very careful with shot placement, I hated to see folks show up with anything .243/6mm cal.
Next best thing from Speer if the 105 was good would be the 100 grain BTSP or the 85 grain BTSP which some buddies have used as a dual purpose bullet with great success.


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