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Yes Mully220, It's the DPMS pattern "AR10"
Easy to put together, but the one thing you can't buy is the barrel and extension as an assembly. I made that myself. You cna too if you have access to a lathe and know how to use it.

I have learned by making 358s in both AR and in bolt guns that the cartridge benefits from a 1-12 twist. Some have 1-14 and that's not fast enough for some of the more popular bullets today. Boat tails with plastic tips make for longer bullets and they need to spin faster for good accuracy.

Why not just get a 9.3x62?

I will consider that Mac. I'm a varmint caliber guy and don't know squat about these medium bores.

Mully, What state?

Just FYI, NULA (Wilson Combat) catalogs a 358. They're pretty pricey. https://wilsoncombat.com/long-guns/nula-bolt-action-rifles.html

Or what about a 350 legend?

I had a pre'64 M/70 rebored to .35 Whelen by Randall Redman 30 some years ago, it has been my whitetail rifle ever since. Best bullets I've found are Hornady Inter-lok 200gr. RN with IMR 3031 and Sierra Game King 225gr. Spitzer with IMR 4064. I always wanted to do a .358 on a Winchester pre'64 Featherweight which would be my ideal .35 caliber deer rifle. When I got the Whelen back from rebore I tested every .35 caliber bullet available at the time before coming up with the Hornady and Sierra bullets. Both proved to be the most accurate and performed well on whitetails.

Lots of guys are using the 350 Legend around here in Iowa and I have heard mixed results with bullet performance.

Good info if I find one gunswizard.

The 200 Hornady SP is a good one too. Both it and the RN are probably the only one's available. I haven't seen either the 200 or 225 Sierra's in quite a while.

Well, there's that new 360 Buckhammer that is 35cal. That might scratch your itch. There's a lot of 308win rifles one could get for reboring. Ive got an steel BLR 81 308win I should do something with but I won't because I'm lazy and 45-70 does fine up to 200yds for me.

Shaw can build you a 358 on a Savage action. One of the gun heads here on the fire has a Shaw in 35 REM

Terminal Ballistics Research in New Zealand has a lot of good info. Nathan Forest has an interesting article on the .358 Win and pistol bullets. Google it.

DF

Edited to add link.

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.358+Winchester.html

How about a Remington 141 in 35 Remington? They are a pump action but are really good rifles.

Jim

Those are nice.

Picture?

DF

I'm having good luck using the 358 in Savage lever actions shooting the 180 grain Barnes TTSX and 51 grains of TAC powder. Have killed bear deadern hell with the load.

My wet weather 358



The 358 16" carbine

Nice, twice.

Thanks for showing.

DF

Buy a new or used .243/ .308 in a rifle you like and send it to JES to become a .358 Win.

It was $250 when I had my pre-64 .243 FWT done. Still a deal at $350. Mine was shot out. To me it would be hard to send one that still shot well. But some do.

It would be interesting to see his set up and how he turns them out so fast and at reasonable cost. And they’d shoot.

DF

https://www.gunsinternational.com/s...nchester&start_row=1&the_order=6

There are several on Guns international. None cheap though. I had a pre64 Mod 70 FWT rebarreled to .358 last year from a 30-06. It is now my timber/thick country rifle.

That round's hard to beat for that use. It'll reach out farther than some think, just not an ideal long range set up. Pretty dangerous out to 200+ if you do your part.

It hits hard without a lot of punishing recoil.

DF

Just a Hunter,

Thanks for the link. I was looking at those $8K prices on pre-64 M-70 FWT .358 Win rifles. Makes me proud to have one, although a JES job, a good looking, good shooting .358 Win. I traded for the shot out .243, had JES do his thing. I recut the checkering, refinished the wood, glassed and free floated it, tweaked the trigger to a near perfect 3#'s.

I really like the rifle and the round. I've posted this before. Final version is with the Trijicon in Signature rings. I like the duplex type reticle with bright dot. Great combo for woods hunting and over food plots.

I can enjoy it like an original, but for way less than the asking price for those. Fav load is with the 178 Shock Hammer over full load of RL-7, although X-Term and TAC also work well.

DF

The Raptor is another good bullet. I like the 178 Shock Hammer better because I can load it longer with less powder compression due to it's shape.

Hard to beat the accuracy, thanks to JES. I wasn't able to fully repeat this group, but came pretty close, like half MOA. The Hammer bullet is about as accurate, both solid MOA bullets, often sub MOA. They both have great terminal performance.

Here's an exit wound, 178 Shock Hammer, on a doe shot a couple of years ago. Notice the satellite exits around the core. These bullets frag and the pieces follow the core causing lots of internal damage, IME more than with mono's that don't frag. Yeah, I've shot both kinds, these are better, IMO, at least on the kinda game I hunt, mostly hogs and WT's. Quick kills, lots of internal damage.

DF