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Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?

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Ya need their Beaverton address and phone number on speed dial.

To their credit, they will fix it.

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3rd Repair Trip for my MK4 FFP TMR Spotter and received an update,this morning,after it being gone for a couple weeks. Hint.

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I reckon for as much of their schit that routinely fhuqking fails,a 7-week turnaround is "good". Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
3rd Repair Trip for my MK4 FFP TMR Spotter and received an update,this morning,after it being gone for a couple weeks. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

I reckon for as much of their schit that routinely fhuqking fails,a 7-week turnaround is "good". Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................


Lmao. Seems like the more you spend, the less you get with leupold now days. Had an old varix iii that would hold dead nuts through anything.

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It's a shame,that Reupold has become nothing more,than a sad fhuqking JOKE. Hint...................


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Originally Posted by Coyote10
Originally Posted by Big Stick
3rd Repair Trip for my MK4 FFP TMR Spotter and received an update,this morning,after it being gone for a couple weeks. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

I reckon for as much of their schit that routinely fhuqking fails,a 7-week turnaround is "good". Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................


Lmao. Seems like the more you spend, the less you get with leupold now days. Had an old varix iii that would hold dead nuts through anything.
Yeah, seems those older friction adjustables seem to work, set and forget, especially the fixed powered ones.

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Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

You think that after maybe a couple complaints, they'd have a small meeting and address the crooked schit on something like a riflescope they sell for 1500 bucks.

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Originally Posted by Coyote10
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

You think that after maybe a couple complaints, they'd have a small meeting and address the crooked schit on something like a riflescope they sell for 1500 bucks.

Why bother? When they could just say we’re all wrong, pretty much laugh in our faces at how stupid we are, and many here and virtually everyone not here will continue to buy them? Why improve when you don’t have to?

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Have had it happen with multiple Burris scopes. One was sent back and fixed, the other was sent back to Burris and returned to me with the reticle slightly less crooked. It’s going back again.

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Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

You think that after maybe a couple complaints, they'd have a small meeting and address the crooked schit on something like a riflescope they sell for 1500 bucks.

Why bother? When they could just say we’re all wrong, pretty much laugh in our faces at how stupid we are, and many here and virtually everyone not here will continue to buy them? Why improve when you don’t have to?
Arrogance, condescension?

Somewhere it’s stated, pride goes before a fall.

Now where ya reckon you can find that tidbit of wisdom?

I wish’em well, but arrogance is a dangerous, unproductive attitude.

A little humility and actually listening to one’s customers could go a long way to their good.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

You think that after maybe a couple complaints, they'd have a small meeting and address the crooked schit on something like a riflescope they sell for 1500 bucks.

Why bother? When they could just say we’re all wrong, pretty much laugh in our faces at how stupid we are, and many here and virtually everyone not here will continue to buy them? Why improve when you don’t have to?
Arrogance, condescension?

Somewhere it’s stated, pride goes before a fall.

Now where ya reckon you can find that tidbit of wisdom?

I wish’em well, but arrogance is a dangerous, unproductive attitude.

A little humility and actually listening to one’s customers could go a long way to their good.

DF

You’re right but sadly I think that ship has sailed. Remember that video they did? I was on the fence personally until that stunt. That sealed their fate for me. Adios.

I wish that show could be reposted. I think some around here would benefit.

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Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

You think that after maybe a couple complaints, they'd have a small meeting and address the crooked schit on something like a riflescope they sell for 1500 bucks.

Why bother? When they could just say we’re all wrong, pretty much laugh in our faces at how stupid we are, and many here and virtually everyone not here will continue to buy them? Why improve when you don’t have to?
Arrogance, condescension?

Somewhere it’s stated, pride goes before a fall.

Now where ya reckon you can find that tidbit of wisdom?

I wish’em well, but arrogance is a dangerous, unproductive attitude.

A little humility and actually listening to one’s customers could go a long way to their good.

DF

You’re right but sadly I think that ship has sailed. Remember that video they did? I was on the fence personally until that stunt. That sealed their fate for me. Adios.

I wish that show could be reposted. I think some around here would benefit.
Yeah, that video was a slap in the face for us, a victory lap for them when there was no victory to lap.

You may be right, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Bought another leupold hd scope. After leveling my action, i threw it on my rifle and while leveling it, I noticed that when I leveled the reticle with a plumb bob string, the main tube and dials are canted counter clockwise about 5 degrees. I then stuck a level on the top turret to confirm this and it was way off. Anyone ever encounter this?
Yes, it's been encountered before.

You think that after maybe a couple complaints, they'd have a small meeting and address the crooked schit on something like a riflescope they sell for 1500 bucks.

Why bother? When they could just say we’re all wrong, pretty much laugh in our faces at how stupid we are, and many here and virtually everyone not here will continue to buy them? Why improve when you don’t have to?
Arrogance, condescension?

Somewhere it’s stated, pride goes before a fall.

Now where ya reckon you can find that tidbit of wisdom?

I wish’em well, but arrogance is a dangerous, unproductive attitude.

A little humility and actually listening to one’s customers could go a long way to their good.

DF

You’re right but sadly I think that ship has sailed. Remember that video they did? I was on the fence personally until that stunt. That sealed their fate for me. Adios.

I wish that show could be reposted. I think some around here would benefit.

If they had set out to do a worse job than they did with that, I don't think they could have. I have bought over a dozen scopes since then. Many would have been Leupold had it not been for their arrogance and the advice to bang the turrets. Only one was. A 1.5-4 on a low recoil lever gun.

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Leupold lost me as a customer with the Mark 4. It wouldn't track and parallax wouldn't adjust. 2x back to Leupold on the same scope. I've moved on.

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More than a decade since my experience with the subject, and Leupold still hasn't figured out how to make a scope without a canted reticle (among other issues)?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...s/canted/Search/true/re-vx-6#Post6399769

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...rue/leupold-qc-strikes-again#Post8506230

Hill Country Rifles over a decade ago decided to no longer sell Leupold because of all the QC issues.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...why-are-some-variables-tough#Post6519697

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-vx-3-vs-night-force-2-10x42#Post9439534

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It’s the way many companies operate these days. Cheaper overall to fix stuff than make sure it’s good going out the door, correct faulty designs, or even worse, require employees to do things correctly.

My old Ranger was one with a possibly dangerous airbag. Spent half a day getting it fixed at a dealership so it wouldn’t explode in my wife’s face. Now they want it back because it’s possible they put it in upside down!
How does something like that happen?


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Some companies shop it out to Chicom slave labor and give the customer the shaft for customer service.

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I own a couple of Leupy's still, but haven't bought a new one in several years. So who's buying them now? They seem to still sell about all of them they make.


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I almost bought a NX8 10 power, but I decided leupold. Again. I have shot their scopes exclusively for 20 years. I talked with their customer service. They said sent it in and they'll take care of it. I will when I get back from wyoming, as it's my back up rifle. Seems to track and hold zero ok. But that reticle is level and the caps and illumination cap twisted counter clockwise just drives me nuts.

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