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LAS, have you ridden that 600 Ace Expedition yet?
I need to get me one of those storage boxes for my Tundra and possibly a ski widening kit.
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Nice rig T, and dang, nice rig Las.
T, you'll be after some wider skis in no time. But I don't think you'll need to widen the stance. The aftermarket skis should help.
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LAS, have you ridden that 600 Ace Expedition yet?
I need to get me one of those storage boxes for my Tundra and possibly a ski widening kit. I bought my first (and probably last, unless I wreck it) snowmobile when I moved to Montana. 2020 Expedition Sport with the 600 ACE engine. My cabin is usually only accessible by snowmobile from around late November through March, so I use it to get to the cabin, haul stuff to the cabin, haul game away from the cabin. I also like to head into the mountains just to cruise around, so it's been perfect for that. Very quiet, pretty efficient and has just enough power to get me where I need to go without getting me in trouble. Only complaint I have about it is that I am prone to getting it stuck, which is likely more due to my lack of skill than anything about the sled, which is not made for blasting around in deep snow. I was going to replace the Skidoo 21l tunnel bag with one of the huge Skidoo cargo trunks but decided to go cheap and have a Plano tub that works pretty well.
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Skins will give you some float and stop the diving in the powder if that's what you are seeing. Widening will kill the beauty of the tundra, which is effortless sidehilliing.
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Different perspectives or maybe riding styles, I guess.
I have found Tundras to be among the worst for side hilling, due to their narrow stance. You have to lean WAY more than you do with a wider stanced machine. The ski widening kit on my Summit made a huge difference and even stock it was significantly better at side hilling than this Tundra is. I layed the Tundra over on Saturday on a side hill simply because I wasn’t paying attention and didn’t lean enough on the uphill side and it wasn’t very steep at all. I may try wider skis and a deeper skag first before I go for a wider ski stance as I think the widening kit also raises the center of gravity. I’ll talk to the dealer about those ups/downs.
To me, the beauty of the Tundra and the reason I went with it was maneuverability in tight areas, again due to its narrow profile, though it is longer than I would prefer which doesn’t help with tight spaces.
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Posted pictures in another thread but here’s mine. Expedition SWT with 900ace R turbo. I’m the last one in my group to finally get one. These are the ultimate winter hunting sleds. We been trying to make the Rex trail muzzleloader hunt an annual trip. Hopefully the two rivers we need to cross on the Rex trail are frozen.
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Different perspectives or maybe riding styles, I guess.
I have found Tundras to be among the worst for side hilling, due to their narrow stance. You have to lean WAY more than you do with a wider stanced machine. The ski widening kit on my Summit made a huge difference and even stock it was significantly better at side hilling than this Tundra is. I layed the Tundra over on Saturday on a side hill simply because I wasn’t paying attention and didn’t lean enough on the uphill side and it wasn’t very steep at all. I may try wider skis and a deeper skag first before I go for a wider ski stance as I think the widening kit also raises the center of gravity. I’ll talk to the dealer about those ups/downs.
To me, the beauty of the Tundra and the reason I went with it was maneuverability in tight areas, again due to its narrow profile, though it is longer than I would prefer which doesn’t help with tight spaces. Nothing creeps through the trees better than a Tundra! Beware the widner kit, it changes the angle of attack on the track quite a bit. Some folks dont have an issue with it but those folks don't seem to break alot of trail. Mostly just trail riders. I trap up north quite a ways in the snow shadow of the Brooks and a SWT makes a big difference when its time to break trail. I like the skandic over the expedition myself. Pogos ride circles around A arms when then snow gets deep. Every time...
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Posted pictures in another thread but here’s mine. Expedition SWT with 900ace R turbo. Sweet sled 79S!! That'll be a ball with all that track and 180hp on tap! It'll probably dangle the skis as far as you dare!
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The ergonomics of the newer sleds are better for old backs and knees. I am looking for a ski-doo expedition myself.
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Nice rig T, and dang, nice rig Las.
T, you'll be after some wider skis in no time. But I don't think you'll need to widen the stance. The aftermarket skis should help. Yep, new skis & you'll be golden Ted ! LOL, get a tundra they said, you'll never get stuck ! Seriously, they are great ! Joe's 2010 550f (yellow) with big skins. Mine's the black 09 550f ! Box is a great addition.
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I guess yammy quit the snowmobile industry. Back in the 80's, I was in awe of anything that said "YAMAHA". My uncle was dominating informal races/hill climbs on a yz 250. My first sled was snojet powered by a yamaha 440 fan cooled twin with a powerblok clutch. Still some old 90s yammy stuff working hard around here. Goodbye yamaha.
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Yamaha isn't done with sleds till the 2025 model year. You have time to get a brand new SRX if you so chose. I would expect their deal with Arctic Cat to last past this though.
I too am a Yamaha slut and when shopping powersports - I start and end with them.
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If the bearcat had evolved alongside the tundra it could be an amazing machine now. As it is, Yamaha hasn't made anything that appealed to me in a snowmachine for a long time. And I'm also a big Yamaha fan.
Actually.... I take that back.... Forgot about the viking!
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T, Congrats on the tundra! Yep, I've ran plenty of heavy wide track loads in low gear. But a day in day out, general purpose woods bomber for breaking trail/trapping/firewood/hauling milled slabs, a smaller sled is the way. Widetracks arent "flickable" in tight off trail stuff. They're quite cumbersome in tight sht. Always try to jump on a small sled first, they use lots less fuel.
Hard to do better than a 600 ace tundra. If you're freighting out materials to build a remote cabin, the widetracks come into their own. Aside from that, tough to 600 ace Tundra for all around trail use. It's on my list when I trade out the sand for the snow.
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The older carbureted 550 fan motor is hard on fuel but very reliable. Comes with electric start and a pull start as well. Regular track or long track in the older tundras.
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The new 2024 tundra LE in 600efi, very light and plenty of horsepower. Still in breakin mode, but preliminary fuel use is 15gph. The LE is a 16” X 154 long track
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How much for an electric one?
The Dems are wanting to stop drilling up there!
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I haven't been back to this thread in awhile. Yes, I've driven the new Expedition Sport 600 ACE 3 times now. It's bigger than either of us thought it would be. My wife let me back it off the trailer twice, and put it on once....... I need to figure a sled connection for the hitch - the hitch hole is smaller than the one on the Turbo, so ththat clevis doesn't fit. Just in case we need to tow with it. We went into our rec cabin for 4 days a couple weeks back - two sled loads, both in and out, for 4 friggen days. I had a tool box.... I remember those 10 day back-pack hunts with a 50 lb load. What the hell happened???? First load out... She likes it much better than the 2012 AC 1100 Turbo. Lighter, quieter, and has a removable seat for the dog(or someone) behind her, plus the cargo box. She has tipped it twice, and able to put it back upright by herself. I like it because it is fan cooled. The Turbo apparently is now mine. A bit of an upgrade from the '93 Bravo, but I ain't selling that. The Turbo doesn't go any faster than the Bravo. Well, it does, but I don't! I can if I want to tho. The Exp. only has about 15 miles on it, on trail, so far tho.
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