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I have a Leupold CDS dial on a used CDS scope that says 143 ELD-X on it if someone could use it
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41.5 H4350 or 42.5 RL-16 is what I'm using in mine with 139 - 143 grain bullets.
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42.3 RE16 & the 143 Hornady will run right at 2,800 fps in my 24" Bartlein. I have shot numerous .5moa groups at 400yds and an occasional .25moa at that distance. At the moment, the 143 is producing slightly smaller groups than the Berger 140 Hybrid which shoots very well in my rifle.
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I pulled down a factory load the other day and it had 41.5 g of a stick powder in it. The color and sticks didn't quite match h4350. Of the powders i have on hand it looked like RL16.
Recently I pulled down rounds from 2 different lots of Hornady 7prc 180 eld match ammo and they had completely different powders in them. That explained why they shot different and one lot was 75 fps faster than the other. One looked like rl25 or 26 and the other was ball like staball hd.
One of Hornady's big pushes with Creedmoor and prc rounds is the availability of match grade factory ammo. Given that it would be nice if they could use the same powder lot to lot but they are probably having supply issues like everyone else.
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I have a Leupold CDS dial on a used CDS scope that says 143 ELD-X on it if someone could use it Hanco, Do not misunderstand this as a request. I am only asking for information as I am happy working with the original moa dials on the scopes. I have never even asked for custom dials. If and when I decide to make adjustments beyond my maximum point blank range, I will work in MOA. I have two (I think) VX 2 3-9x40 with CDS and one VX 3i 3.5-10 x 40 with CDS. Do you know if the dials are interchangeable?
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I have a Leupold CDS dial on a used CDS scope that says 143 ELD-X on it if someone could use it PM Sent Rex
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I have a Leupold CDS dial on a used CDS scope that says 143 ELD-X on it if someone could use it Hanco, Do not misunderstand this as a request. I am only asking for information as I am happy working with the original moa dials on the scopes. I have never even asked for custom dials. If and when I decide to make adjustments beyond my maximum point blank range, I will work in MOA. I have two (I think) VX 2 3-9x40 with CDS and one VX 3i 3.5-10 x 40 with CDS. Do you know if the dials are interchangeable? I don’t know
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I have a Leupold CDS dial on a used CDS scope that says 143 ELD-X on it if someone could use it PM Sent Rex Mailed dial out to a man last Saturday, sorry
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Worked out my 143 grain Norma BondStrike / StaBALL 6.5 load.
43.9 grains get me 2,751 fps from a 22" barrel with an S-D of 11.0 and an E-S of 24. BTO (Sinclair) of 3.055" and a OAL ~2.790"
Will be testing this out on next season's Elk.
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I've never seen any 143 bondstrike bullets anywhere, but I have seen ammo. Interesting!
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I've never seen any 143 bondstrike bullets anywhere, but I have seen ammo. Interesting! Add your notify to the list. It's how I got mine. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/87798
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Worked out my 143 grain Norma BondStrike / StaBALL 6.5 load.
43.9 grains get me 2,751 fps from a 22" barrel with an S-D of 11.0 and an E-S of 24. BTO (Sinclair) of 3.055" and a OAL ~2.790"
Will be testing this out on next season's Elk. Question, how can your BTO be longer than your COL?
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Worked out my 143 grain Norma BondStrike / StaBALL 6.5 load.
43.9 grains get me 2,751 fps from a 22" barrel with an S-D of 11.0 and an E-S of 24. BTO (Sinclair) of 3.055" and a OAL ~2.790"
Will be testing this out on next season's Elk. Question, how can your BTO be longer than your COL? Just a guess, but his BTO may include the 1" of the Sinclair nut (assuming it was the nut type of comparator).
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Worked out my 143 grain Norma BondStrike / StaBALL 6.5 load.
43.9 grains get me 2,751 fps from a 22" barrel with an S-D of 11.0 and an E-S of 24. BTO (Sinclair) of 3.055" and a OAL ~2.790"
Will be testing this out on next season's Elk. Question, how can your BTO be longer than your COL? Just a guess, but his BTO may include the 1" of the Sinclair nut (assuming it was the nut type of comparator). Bingo. Yup
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In my load notes there will be something like 3.220" S-nut or 3.155" H-comp for 308 Winchester cartridges about 2.8" long.
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Worked out my 143 grain Norma BondStrike / StaBALL 6.5 load.
43.9 grains get me 2,751 fps from a 22" barrel with an S-D of 11.0 and an E-S of 24. BTO (Sinclair) of 3.055" and a OAL ~2.790"
Will be testing this out on next season's Elk. Question, how can your BTO be longer than your COL? Just a guess, but his BTO may include the 1" of the Sinclair nut (assuming it was the nut type of comparator). Ah, I always zero mine out before taking a measurement.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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Yep still flying got a few years to go. I fly a Corporate CE-650. RL-16 is a hard one to find but I have been seeing it more here lately. Yes RL- 16 is now $60/lb.....
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