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I think 10mag is leading you in the right direction. let's forget about the hot brass for a minute. but some of the other issues you have mentioned you do need to check headspace. take it to someone and have it checked or at the very least get you a set of go/no-go gauges. start there.
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Do you want a picture of a brand new starline?
The forum software is old here, I would have to send it to my computer resize it, and then post. It won't accept pics from a phone. I posted that a week ago.
I also feel like it is a waste of time with some here.
Reloading manuals talk about small base sizing dies. And some act like it is made up because they never did it. I never did it either, until I bought starline. I suspect it is a premium thicker brass. I would not be surprised if I bought other premium brass I encountered this too. I meant of the fired that had primer issues and stuff. You know, what you'd take to a gunsmith when you asked them about it. But no worries... I'm sure you'll figure it out on your own.
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I think 10mag is leading you in the right direction. let's forget about the hot brass for a minute. but some of the other issues you have mentioned you do need to check headspace. take it to someone and have it checked or at the very least get you a set of go/no-go gauges. start there. Now who lead you to that possible diagnosis??😎😎
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Do you want a picture of a brand new starline?
The forum software is old here, I would have to send it to my computer resize it, and then post. It won't accept pics from a phone. I posted that a week ago.
I also feel like it is a waste of time with some here.
Reloading manuals talk about small base sizing dies. And some act like it is made up because they never did it. I never did it either, until I bought starline. I suspect it is a premium thicker brass. I would not be surprised if I bought other premium brass I encountered this too. I meant of the fired that had primer issues and stuff. You know, what you'd take to a gunsmith when you asked them about it. But no worries... I'm sure you'll figure it out on your own. The gunsmith will be called an idiot too. And to think, this cat reloads and owns firearms. Talk about a dangerous combination. I tried to ask questions and help but only to be called an idiot. I think that's like the pot calling the kettle black.
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I will make it easy for you. See if these folks at Starline are idiots. Read it all but pay attention once you get down to where it says "Splits and excessive headspace" I really shouldn't continue to help you but I would feel bad if you hurt yourself or ruined what may be a nice rifle. https://www.starlinebrass.com/artic...-Determine-the-Performance-of-Your-Load/
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You have to rack it hard into battery. Clue #1 and you never even had to fire a round.
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I very least get you a set of go/no-go gauges. start there. Pretty sure I already posted that I did. I am also not the first person here to say they have seen that. It is only hot on handloads, below max load. Maybe burn rate.
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Yet you call me an idiot? That is not why. I can write something and you pretend you didn't read it. Like bolt vs pump temps, and time in chamber being the same. Also firing one shot hunting, and then catching your round in your hand, is just weird to me.
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You have to rack it hard into battery. Clue #1 and you never even had to fire a round. Talk to people who own pumps, this a common thing. Hard may be over stating, but you can't rack it in slow and gentle like a pump. Reloading manuals talk about small base dies, maybe that would help. I realize you don't acknowledge manuals.
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You have to rack it hard into battery. Clue #1 and you never even had to fire a round. Talk to people who own pumps, this a common thing. Hard may be over stating, but you can't rack it in slow and gentle like a pump. Reloading manuals talk about small base dies, maybe that would help. I realize you don't acknowledge manuals. I have owned 4, also stated multiple times. Never had to slam one to get bolt to lock up.
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I think 10mag is leading you in the right direction. let's forget about the hot brass for a minute. but some of the other issues you have mentioned you do need to check headspace. take it to someone and have it checked or at the very least get you a set of go/no-go gauges. start there. Now who lead you to that possible diagnosis??😎😎  .. 👍
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You have to rack it hard into battery. Clue #1 and you never even had to fire a round. Talk to people who own pumps, this a common thing. Hard may be over stating, but you can't rack it in slow and gentle like a pump. Reloading manuals talk about small base dies, maybe that would help. I realize you don't acknowledge manuals. Keep overworking your brass. Hopefully you really don't have a headspace issue if you go this route.
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He’s either a fecking troll or simply too stupid to be trusted with a weapon of any kind. Or both. That was apparent by the time this thread was on page 2. Just flush this azzhat.
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He’s either a fecking troll or simply too stupid to be trusted with a weapon of any kind. Or both. That was apparent by the time this thread was on page 2. Just flush this azzhat. Can he be both??
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Keep overworking your brass. Hopefully you really don't have a headspace issue if you go this route. Have you ever read a reloading manual? This might part of the gulf between me and you.
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Keep overworking your brass. Hopefully you really don't have a headspace issue if you go this route. Have you ever read a reloading manual? This might part of the gulf between me and you. Own several and have read through em all. You? Maybe see if there is a section on headspace. Maybe see if it tells you anything case splits, hard chambering, light primer strikes etc. Also see if anything is mentioned about primer seating depth. If the manual has all of the answers why are you here? I'm out. No need to try to teach someone who already has all of the answers.
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Own several and have read through em all.
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I'm out. No need to try to teach someone who already has all of the answers. what have you taught me? How to kill squirels with a revolver? what answer have you had that I have not listened to?
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And I repeat to you.
Depth is the keyword.
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I'm out. No need to try to teach someone who already has all of the answers. what have you taught me? How to kill squirels with a revolver? what answer have you had that I have not listened to? WTF does shooting squirrels with a revolver have to do with anything?? Sounds fun but I have never done it.
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