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Looking for a reduced recoil load for 270 win using 130 hornandy spire point

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Speer lists reduced loads, you can interchange the data with the Hornady bullet, just start at start charge and work up carefully watching for pressure signs.

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Not to try and hijack this thread, but I view the 270 as a high performance cartridge, one that I want to load to it's maximum potential, in order to get the most out of it. I shot a 270 in a Remington 700 Classic for many years, and although the recoil was certainly manageable, I would notice it after a session at the range. In actual hunting, I never felt it. If I was wanting something with less recoil, I'd do one of two things........go to a different cartridge that has less recoil, such as the 6.5 Creedmoor, or I'd put the 270 barreled action in a heavier stock with a thicker recoil pad. The 270 is race horse that doesn't deserve to be held back.

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30-35grs imr4198 would be a good start


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How much reduction do you want? I've used IMR 3031 with a starting load of about 41 grains with a 130 grain bullet and recoil was very mild.

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Originally Posted by 243guru
Looking for a reduced recoil load for 270 win using 130 hornandy spire point

Not sure exactly what you're considering reduced, just not as stout of loads as normal, or actually reduced?

Either way, go to Hodgdon's online reloading website. They list both H4895 and IMR 4895 for that exact bullet.

Both those powders can be reduced 40% off of the max charge. I know anywhere H4895 is listed that is the rule regarding that powder but better call Hodgdon to make sure on the IMR, but that was always my understanding. So max charge listed X .60

Hodgdon is showing its starting charge at just 42 grains with H4895 and that Hornady 130 SP. Mild load compared to typical loads in a 270 using slower burning powders.

Max charge listed is 45 gr's. So theoretically you could go as low as 27 grains to start. 45 grains H4895 X .60 = 27.

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5744, check your other thread.

On reduced loads in "high performance cartridges", sometimes a need comes up.

Years ago my boys begged me non stop to shoot my 300RUM. I knew better than to let the little shi ts yank a trigger on a full house load. So without them knowing at the time I worked up a decent load with 5744 and a 180 grain Hornady. Rifle was a straight up factory 700 CDL so not very heavy. It recoiled like a 243 and the boys burned the house down with it.


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Looking for a reduced recoil load for 270 win using 130 hornandy spire point

Not sure exactly what you're considering reduced, just not as stout of loads as normal, or actually reduced?

Either way, go to Hodgdon's online reloading website. They list both H4895 and IMR 4895 for that exact bullet.

Both those powders can be reduced 40% off of the max charge. I know anywhere H4895 is listed that is the rule regarding that powder but better call Hodgdon to make sure on the IMR, but that was always my understanding. So max charge listed X .60

Hodgdon is showing its starting charge at just 42 grains with H4895 and that Hornady 130 SP. Mild load compared to typical loads in a 270 using slower burning powders.

Max charge listed is 45 gr's. So theoretically you could go as low as 27 grains to start. 45 grains H4895 X .60 = 27.

40% ?? Never in the 25 years of loading heard about this much reduced load.
Here's senior ballistician and project manager from Hornady comments of low charge and pressure. Start at 4:58 time line.



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The reduced H4895 charges are widely known and they are outlined in the Hodgdon manuals. Perhaps you simply have 1 year of experience repeated 25 times??

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Here is Hodgdon's recommendations using H4895 for reduced loads.


https://hodgdonpowderco.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads-2.pdf

Another old approach is to use cast bullet loads for the same weight jacketed bullet, but I think it should stressed to stick with traditional cup and core or FMJ jacketed bullets, as some bonded or partition style bullets won't compress and obturate in the same way that a "copper lubricated" (aka traditional jacketed) bullet will.

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I used 35 grains of H4895 under a 110 grain bullet in my .270 for a very accurate practice load that was easy on the barrel. Something a little below that should work well for 130s pending verification with the Hodgdon formulas.

A bigger issue is finding H4895.


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Originally Posted by MikeS
The reduced H4895 charges are widely known and they are outlined in the Hodgdon manuals. Perhaps you simply have 1 year of experience repeated 25 times??

Considering jerk posters like you and manufactures too who give out bogus info, yeah it was a challange and listening to them for gospel. Most of the time I figured it out on my own. Never knew the right way only in the last few years. But the difference between the guys who told me aren't as ignorant or obnoxious and conceited as you, so yeah I'm here now and did it without people like you..... and IF I had to rely on people like you I wouldn't be where I am. Thanks for the help !

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody sure does a lot of deleting and edting.

don't want to confuse the experts

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Originally Posted by MikeS
The reduced H4895 charges are widely known and they are outlined in the Hodgdon manuals. Perhaps you simply have 1 year of experience repeated 25 times??
I hadn't older paper manual somewhere around here.

May be packed away ready for the move.

Makes you wonder if the H4895 is close to what Remington was using in their reduced recoil loads.

A buddy had some Remington reduced recoil factory loads in 125 grain for his '06 when his boy started shooting. A mid range 243 load with 85 grain bullets seemed to have more felt recoil than his '06.


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Somebody sure does a lot of deleting and edting.

He does seem to reconsider and edit many of his outbursts in an attempt to appear reasoned...


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well maybe if you guys act like adults it wouldn't be that way would it.. have you ever considered that? Probably not ! You don't know how to behave like mature adults because your not !

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Just start at a min load for what ever powder you have.
It’s a huge difference as reloaders are almost always chasing fps/near max loads.


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Makes you wonder if the H4895 is close to what Remington was using in their reduced recoil loads.

A buddy had some Remington reduced recoil factory loads in 125 grain for his '06 when his boy started shooting. A mid range 243 load with 85 grain bullets seemed to have more felt recoil than his '06.

I believe it was IMR4198.

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Originally Posted by anothergun
well maybe if you guys act like adults it wouldn't be that way would it.. have you ever considered that? Probably not ! You don't know how to behave like mature adults because your not !


Have some cheese with that whine.

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