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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Grace Mappes, Angelica Evans, Riley Bailey, Karolina Hird, and Frederick W. Kagan

November 12, 2023, 3:55pm ET


Ukraine appears to be intensifying attacks against Russian military, logistics, and other high-profile assets in rear areas in occupied Ukraine and Russia.
The Russian government is attempting to downplay the extent of its efforts to strengthen control over the Russian information space.
Russia continues to posture itself as a prominent security guarantor for authoritarian countries in Africa.
Russian forces conducted a limited series of missile strikes targeting southern Ukraine on November 12.
Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
Ukrainian forces made a marginal gain on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast on November 12 amid ongoing ground operations.


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So not yet ? 😁


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Did Russia surrender yet?
That’s the question I have been asking for about 2 years now. Beginning to look like Tdoyka, Houston, and John Burns may be fixing to experience heartbreak.
Originally Posted by LBP
So not yet ? 😁
Not yet, but at least Ukraine's main cheerleader from Wyoming has been released from the asylum and is back playing the equivalent of Baghdad Bob.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by LBP
Did Russia surrender yet?
That’s the question I have been asking for about 2 years now. Beginning to look like Tdoyka, Houston, and John Burns may be fixing to experience heartbreak.
Originally Posted by LBP
So not yet ? 😁
Not yet, but at least Ukraine's main cheerleader from Wyoming has been released from the asylum and is back playing the equivalent of Baghdad Bob.

They will be calling for Zelensky to win when they are in nursing homes.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by LBP
Did Russia surrender yet?
That’s the question I have been asking for about 2 years now. Beginning to look like Tdoyka, Houston, and John Burns may be fixing to experience heartbreak.
Originally Posted by LBP
So not yet ? 😁
Not yet, but at least Ukraine's main cheerleader from Wyoming has been released from the asylum and is back playing the equivalent of Baghdad Bob.

No doubt!

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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by LBP
Did Russia surrender yet?
That’s the question I have been asking for about 2 years now. Beginning to look like Tdoyka, Houston, and John Burns may be fixing to experience heartbreak.
Originally Posted by LBP
So not yet ? 😁
Not yet, but at least Ukraine's main cheerleader from Wyoming has been released from the asylum and is back playing the equivalent of Baghdad Bob.

They will be calling for Zelensky to win when they are in nursing homes.

Fuggin Burns!


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Currently I’m pulling for a continued stalemate in Ukraine where both sides, Russia and Ukraine are mired down in a continuous back and forth. The heartless side of me thinks that for every casualty suffered by either Russia or Ukraine is one less future potential enemy for us. I have no illusions about Ukraine being an ally of the USA should conflict arise. They’re raised with the mentality that the west is their existential enemy despite their love of our decadent excesses. If Ukraine can continue to put up a rigorous defense then Russia won’t be as inclined to mess around in the Hamas-Iran-Israel debacle….hopefully. It appears that Russia has its hands full with Ukraine right now and unlike the USA and our ability to meddle in multiple places at once Russia can barely do 1 thing at a time. As long as Russia is stuck in Ukraine they won’t have as much time to interfere and they won’t have the weapons to give to support Iran and Hezbollah….hopefully. 😉

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Originally Posted by LBP
Fuggin Burns!

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
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Fuggin Burns!

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Says who? 😂

But seriously has Russia surrendered yet?

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Originally Posted by LBP
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by LBP
Fuggin Burns!

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Says who? 😂

But seriously has Russia surrendered yet?

I am old enough to remember when you whimpered and whined about the Ukraine war. Now you feel safe because Ukraine has stopped the Orcs.

Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?

Originally Posted by LBP
Fuqk Ukraine! I have two sons 17 and 21 and nothing there is worth my boy’s lives. If they can defeat the Russians good for them, if not good for the Russians. It’s not our war!!


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
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Fuggin Burns!

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Says who? 😂

But seriously has Russia surrendered yet?

I am old enough to remember when you whimpered and whined about the Ukraine war. Now you feel safe because Ukraine has stopped the Orcs.

Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?

Originally Posted by LBP
Fuqk Ukraine! I have two sons 17 and 21 and nothing there is worth my boy’s lives. If they can defeat the Russians good for them, if not good for the Russians. It’s not our war!!

I stick by that post and like many post since Fugk Ukraine. Not one cent of American money, equipment, or personnel should assist either side in anyway. It’s all over now anyway since Russia surrendered I guess.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?
LOL! Ukraine hasn't kept anyone safe. Ukraine hasn't stopped the US Gov't from promoting abortion, sodomy, and Woke world-wide.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?
LOL! Ukraine hasn't kept anyone safe. Ukraine hasn't stopped the US Gov't from promoting abortion, sodomy, and Woke world-wide.
this post is dumber than many others, congrats.


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Originally Posted by aether_tech
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?
LOL! Ukraine hasn't kept anyone safe. Ukraine hasn't stopped the US Gov't from promoting abortion, sodomy, and Woke world-wide.
this post is dumber than many others, congrats.
Should we create dollars (debt) and give them to any foreign country? If so, why. and which countries?


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?
LOL! Ukraine hasn't kept anyone safe. Ukraine hasn't stopped the US Gov't from promoting abortion, sodomy, and Woke world-wide.
Actually the post is spot on!


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by LBP
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by LBP
Fuggin Burns!

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Says who? 😂

But seriously has Russia surrendered yet?

I am old enough to remember when you whimpered and whined about the Ukraine war. Now you feel safe because Ukraine has stopped the Orcs.

Maybe you should show your thanks that some brave souls in Ukraine kept your children safe?

Originally Posted by LBP
Fuqk Ukraine! I have two sons 17 and 21 and nothing there is worth my boy’s lives. If they can defeat the Russians good for them, if not good for the Russians. It’s not our war!!
LMAO!!! The detox didn't take. Start over.

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Bakhmut holds!! lol

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Originally Posted by UpTop
Bakhmut hFolds!! lol
FIFY laugh


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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Christina Harward, Karolina Hird, Riley Bailey, Nicole Wolkov, George Barros, and Frederick W. Kagan

November 13, 2023, 6:55pm ET


Russian state media released and later retracted reports about the "regrouping" of Russian forces on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast to positions further east of the Dnipro River, suggesting that the Russian command and/or Russian state media apparatus has failed to establish a coordinated information line for the Russian response to ongoing Ukrainian ground operations on the east bank.
There are three hypotheses of varying likelihood for the release of the now-retracted reports of a Russian regrouping on the east bank of Kherson Oblast: They may be indicative of actual discussions taking place in the high echelons of Russian military command that may have prematurely entered the information space before being officially released by the Russian military; the Russian military command alternatively may have instructed state media to release and then retract these reports as part of an information operation that aims to have Ukrainian forces underestimate available Russian manpower on the east bank of Kherson Oblast; or an outside source posing as the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) provided information about the reported “regrouping” of Russian forces on the left bank of Kherson Oblast to Russian state media outlets.
Regardless of the causes and circumstances of the TASS and RIA Novosti reports, the reaction to them suggests that events in Kherson Oblast continue to be highly neuralgic in the pro-war information space and emphasizes that the Russian media space still has not coalesced around a singular rhetorical line about what is happening on the east bank of the Dnipro.
Ukrainian and Russian sources noted that weather conditions are impacting the battlespace but not halting operations.
Ukrainian officials indicated that Ukraine will likely conduct an interdiction campaign against Russian supply routes in the upcoming winter.
A Russian milblogger called on actors in the Russian information space to more widely amplify Russian strikes on Ukrainian military assets as opposed to Ukrainian strikes on Russian rear areas, indirectly highlighting a unique dynamic wherein the majority of reported Russian strikes seem to affect Ukrainian civilian objects, whereas the majority of reported Ukrainian strikes affect Russian military assets.
US Ambassador to Ukraine Bridget Brink stated that the 100th civilian ship departed the Black Sea corridor for civilian vessels on November 13, amid continued Russian efforts to deter usage of the corridor.
Former Wagner Group personnel are reportedly rejecting Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) recruitment attempts aimed at subsuming Wagner operations in Africa.
Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove line, near Bakhmut, near Avdiivka, west and southwest of Donetsk City, the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas of the frontline.
Ukrainian officials continued to discuss Russian forced mobilization of Ukrainian civilians in occupied areas of Ukraine.
Russian occupation officials continued to deport Ukrainian children to Russia under vacation schemes.


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Fu ck jUkraine and fu ck pIssrael

America is broke and getting deeper in debt financing wars for two of the most corrupt governments on the planet

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