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Another hand in the air for the Barnes 180gr TTSX in the .358 Win. Mine are seated over 50.0 gr Win 748 in LC brass. Five will go into the same square inch at 100 yds. Looking forward to getting some blood on one before season ends. I use it in my 350 Rem Mag.. Same sorta accuracy as well.
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I like the 358s just do not care for the Barnes bullets, I shoot the RCBS FN plain base hard cast and powder coated. You do not find the bullet in the critters, just the critter DRT.Do not have moose or elk, but do have large hogs and smallish deer. I have five 358 guns, they fit the SE area just fine.
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Another hand in the air for the Barnes 180gr TTSX in the .358 Win. Mine are seated over 50.0 gr Win 748 in LC brass. Five will go into the same square inch at 100 yds. Looking forward to getting some blood on one before season ends. I think I’m more interested in trying the 180 than the 200. Midway has the 180’s, too.
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Another hand in the air for the Barnes 180gr TTSX in the .358 Win. Mine are seated over 50.0 gr Win 748 in LC brass. Five will go into the same square inch at 100 yds. Looking forward to getting some blood on one before season ends. I think I’m more interested in trying the 180 than the 200. Midway has the 180’s, too. If you decide to push them with W748, I recommend magnum primers.
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I’ll use RL7. That stuff is amazing for 200’s on down.
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Really wish Nosler would step up and make a 250 Accubond in .358 cal ? But I guess that too much to ask since even finding 225's is impossible
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Maybe too long to stabilize ?
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Why would someone go to a 35 al and use a 200 gr bullet?
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Don, maybe it would help us all if you just go ahead and let us know what you'd like us to use.
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Why would someone go to a 35 al and use a 200 gr bullet? It’s a deer rifle for me, primarily. I’ve carried it a few times elk hunting in the timber, but I’d rather carry my .338 for that, I was just trying to change my luck. Anyway, the 200’s work extremely well on deer from a .358- and if you scroll back in the thread you’ll see photographic evidence of 225’s working LESS well, at least on smallish deer (blacktail) broadside.
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Don, maybe it would help us all if you just go ahead and let us know what you'd like us to use. Lol. My thought too...
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Why would someone go to a 35 al and use a 200 gr bullet? The 200 TTSX BT shoots great at 2700 FPS in my Savage 99 using a little under Mule Deer's max load of TAC. MOA accurate and the only three I have shot at elk have given total penetration and severe trauma. Really good BC too ("relatively", of course, in the .358) and easy to hit with out to 400 yards with speed to expand...20" drop with a 230 yard zero (275 yard 3" PBR), 2035 FPS terminal velocity. What's not to like? Respectfully, Rex [EDIT: quoted numbers at 7,300' MSL - average where I hunt elk.]
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My go to bullet in .35 Whelen for the last 30 years has been a Sierra Game King, started out with a 225gr. which performed well both accuracy wise and killing ability on whitetails. Never recovered a 225gr., since having shoulder surgery I've gone to a 200gr. recovered one of those from a 100 yd. raking shot. It was lodged just under the buck's skin on the far side, it was perfectly mushroomed and retained 66% of its original weight. The 225gr. was a spitzer and the 200gr. a RN, propellant for the 225gr. was IMR 4064 and for the 200gr. IMR 3031. The 200gr. load came from Ken Waters Pet Loads and Ken listed it as the most accurate load he'd tested, in my experience 3 shot groups @ 100yds. were often one ragged hole.
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Why would someone go to a 35 al and use a 200 gr bullet? The 200 TTSX BT shoots great at 2700 FPS in my Savage 99 using a little under Mule Deer's max load of TAC. MOA accurate and the only three I have shot at elk have given total penetration and severe trauma. Really good BC too ("relatively", of course, in the .358) and easy to hit with out to 400 yards with speed to expand...20" drop with a 230 yard zero (275 yard 3" PBR), 2035 FPS terminal velocity. What's not to like? Respectfully, Rex [EDIT: quoted numbers at 7,300' MSL - average where I hunt elk.] It's amazingly accurate in my Whelen with 8208 as well, right at 2900.
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For you guys shooting .35 calibers @ deer in the woods. You should try working up a load with a .35 A-Frame pistol bullet going 2350-2400 fps. You may be very pleasantly surprised.
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I have a 225 Accubond that recovered from a big hog I shot. The hog was 100 yards and quartering away when shot. The bullet entered the right shoulder and stopped against the hide in the left hind quarter. The hog was DRT. It mushroomed great but can’t remember the retention weight I was able to get two boxes of 200 grain last year but haven’t loaded any yet.
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This was my first experience with 358 and Fury 220 bonded. It was startlingly destructive. A small whitetail was fairly mushed up on the exit. I killed another with Sierra 200 flat point. It was much less sloppy. Both went right down of course.
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I'm a big fan of A-Frames This 300g A-Frame out of a 375 H&H impacted the brown bear at 13 yards, close enough that I could see blood spurt from the entrance would before the rifle recoil took it out of the scope sight picture (2-7x Leupold Firedot). Still weighs 299.5 grains
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I'm a big fan of A-Frames This 300g A-Frame out of a 375 H&H impacted the brown bear at 13 yards, close enough that I could see blood spurt from the entrance would before the rifle recoil took it out of the scope sight picture (2-7x Leupold Firedot). Still weighs 299.5 grains Man that’s to close for comfort. Glad you had the A Frames
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Not a 358 Winchester (yet) but I’ve always had great luck with the Speer 250 Hot Cor in my Whelen. Do they not work well in the 358 Win? I’m also looking into the hammer bullets. I want to find a mono that I can count on for deer hunting and I hear they shed energy much better than traditional monos. I’ve had horrible luck with anything Barnes.
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