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I’ve read somewhere that Swarovski recommends not using Z3 on magnum calibers and even states it in the instruction booklet they come with. I guess it’s because they don’t use the coil springs that their Z5 and Z6 etc… use. Not sure if it’s true.
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I’ve owned a couple Z3s. One has been rocking on a 300wby for many years while other is getting ready to go back for repairs a second time. It can’t take 30-06 recoil…. I’m not a fan of modern Leupolds….but wouldn’t hesitate to put a vari-X-III on a Whelen. FWIW, my Whelen has a Zeiss DL 2x8 that has been perfect so far. I’ve become a real fan of Tract binos and scopes. To date, they’ve held up perfectly on multiple rifles. Question? Wonder why the Z3 holds up on the Roy and craps out on a .30-06? Is the ‘06 a lightweight rifle? Just curious… It was on a Tikka so not particularly light…..
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I have two of the 2-10x42 5HDs and really like the scope!
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I found 2 Z3 to be pretty tender. It was explained to me that thier erector system was only designed to be adjusted so far, and that anything beyond a certain level of adjustment rendered them more prone to loosing zero.
On the bright side, their "glass" was impressive, and I could clearly see that the holes on my target were scattered all over instead of appearing in tight little clusters as I had been expecting. With lesser scopes, I might have had to look through a spotting scope to see that!
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I’ve owned a couple Z3s. One has been rocking on a 300wby for many years while other is getting ready to go back for repairs a second time. It can’t take 30-06 recoil…. I’m not a fan of modern Leupolds….but wouldn’t hesitate to put a vari-X-III on a Whelen. FWIW, my Whelen has a Zeiss DL 2x8 that has been perfect so far. I’ve become a real fan of Tract binos and scopes. To date, they’ve held up perfectly on multiple rifles. Question? Wonder why the Z3 holds up on the Roy and craps out on a .30-06? Is the ‘06 a lightweight rifle? Just curious… It was on a Tikka so not particularly light….. T3x 30-06 with a 4-12x50 Z3 no issues whatsoever with it. RIfle is 6.1 lbs bare.
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I’ve read somewhere that Swarovski recommends not using Z3 on magnum calibers and even states it in the instruction boklet othey come with. I guess it’s because they don’t use the coil springs that their Z5 and Z6 etc… use. Not sure if it’s true. That is not stated anywhere in their instruction manuals and I had a talk with a customer rep at Swaro a while ago and asked him the same question. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Msh6eqi.jpg)
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They are both 2-10x42 (1in vs 30mm tubes). I am wanting to put it on a 35 Whelen, no intention of dialing. What would you guys go with? Z3 glass is great. Scope isnt built to handle heavy recoil per Swaro. Ive called and asked them this very question and that was their response. Now Ive ran some Z3s on lightweight kickers and have not had one go tits up to this day. I have switched over to Z5s for the extra strength, once again, per Swaros recommendation. Leupold would be a great choice as well. Honestly, either scope is way more than whats needed to kill game
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I have two of the 2-10x42 5HDs and really like the scope! ![[Linked Image from media.tenor.com]](https://media.tenor.com/oXslde4FjpkAAAAM/well-theres-that-dr-leonard-mccoy.gif) Lots of good scopes these days and the 2-10 VX5HD is one of the best in that range. Made in USA is kewl.
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They are both 2-10x42 (1in vs 30mm tubes). I am wanting to put it on a 35 Whelen, no intention of dialing. What would you guys go with? Z3 glass is great. Scope isnt built to handle heavy recoil per Swaro. Ive called and asked them this very question and that was their response. Now Ive ran some Z3s on lightweight kickers and have not had one go tits up to this day. I have switched over to Z5s for the extra strength, once again, per Swaros recommendation. Leupold would be a great choice as well. Honestly, either scope is way more than whats needed to kill game Yet this information isn't in their owner manuals, why is that?
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They are both 2-10x42 (1in vs 30mm tubes). I am wanting to put it on a 35 Whelen, no intention of dialing. What would you guys go with? Z3 glass is great. Scope isnt built to handle heavy recoil per Swaro. Ive called and asked them this very question and that was their response. Now Ive ran some Z3s on lightweight kickers and have not had one go tits up to this day. I have switched over to Z5s for the extra strength, once again, per Swaros recommendation. Leupold would be a great choice as well. Honestly, either scope is way more than whats needed to kill game Yet this information isn't in their owner manuals, why is that? I would guess they arent trying to announce it to the world that they dont recommend their Z3 line on heavy recoiling guns, but they will dish out that info on the phone. Like I said, Ive ran them on some hard kickers and have not had a failure yet, but did switch to Z5s
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They are both 2-10x42 (1in vs 30mm tubes). I am wanting to put it on a 35 Whelen, no intention of dialing. What would you guys go with? Z3 glass is great. Scope isnt built to handle heavy recoil per Swaro. Ive called and asked them this very question and that was their response. Now Ive ran some Z3s on lightweight kickers and have not had one go tits up to this day. I have switched over to Z5s for the extra strength, once again, per Swaros recommendation. Leupold would be a great choice as well. Honestly, either scope is way more than whats needed to kill game Yet this information isn't in their owner manuals, why is that? I would guess they arent trying to announce it to the world that they dont recommend their Z3 line on heavy recoiling guns, but they will dish out that info on the phone. Like I said, Ive ran them on some hard kickers and have not had a failure yet, but did switch to Z5s Yet they told you that it was not recommended and of course no one visits online forums and posts their experiences.
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