My lovely daughter age 23 has taken a shine to her new purple G19, but it doesn't seem to like her as much. I don't know what to tell her other than that her grip isn't firm enough, and then I watch her struggling to pull the trigger while holding too firmly, in my opinion. The pistol works fine in my hands. I'm just not enough of a pistol guy to guide her and could use some good advice.
The skinny...she's big enough to handle the pistol. She's right handed but left eye dominant. We've tried Browning, Federal, Winchester and S&B loads in the gun. I have her leaning into it, her thumbs are along side the left side of the frame.
Anybody got some advice for us?
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Lot of things can cause a stovepipe. In my experience a common cause is limp wristing or weak ammo. The slide doesn't move back far enough or with enough authority to eject the spent round, then closes with the empty cartridge stovepiped out the side of the chamber. If it's working for you and not her, it's clearly a shooter issue. Try different bullet grains, 115, 124, and 147 and see if that changes anything.
No reason a 19 shouldn't run just fine with factory 115's. Make sure she's gripping the pistol properly, "beavertail" portion of the grip in good contact with the web of her thumb/ index finger. If there's a gap between the rear portion of the frame and her hand, its wrong. She doesn't need to "crush" the grip to the point where trigger press becomes an issue, gentle forward push with the firing hand, gentle rearward pressure with the support hand. Make sure her wrist is in line with her forearm, some right hand/ left eye shooters tend to torque their wrist outboard in an attempt square up the rear site with their left eye. Hope that helps, if not 30 mins to an hour with a decent instructor should be able to diagnose it.
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Is she letting her elbows piston back and forth like shock absorbers? If she has a firm grip, make sure she also is giving the gun enough resistance from her elbows and shoulders.
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One technique is to have her close her eyes while you load the gun.
The give her an empty gun and see what happens when the pulls the trigger.
This is the same technique used to address a flinch in a rifle.
Repeat this process until she loses the flinch. Then, one time (without showing her) hand her a gun with a round in the chamber and see what happens.
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Last edited by BMT; 11/20/23.
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My lovely daughter age 23 has taken a shine to her new purple G19, but it doesn't seem to like her as much. I don't know what to tell her other than that her grip isn't firm enough, and then I watch her struggling to pull the trigger while holding too firmly, in my opinion. The pistol works fine in my hands. I'm just not enough of a pistol guy to guide her and could use some good advice.
The skinny...she's big enough to handle the pistol. She's right handed but left eye dominant. We've tried Browning, Federal, Winchester and S&B loads in the gun. I have her leaning into it, her thumbs are along side the left side of the frame.
Anybody got some advice for us?
. That confirms that it's limp-wristing. I'd also be using 124gr ammo. If you can find it, NATO and Fiocchi ammo is a little hotter and good to run through a new pistol.
Had a fellow and his wife in one of my classes. Same problem with his wife. He had sent it back to the factory twice already. I fired three magazines worth of ammo.Not a glitch. He still didn't believe me. He sold the gun.
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My lovely daughter age 23 has taken a shine to her new purple G19, but it doesn't seem to like her as much. I don't know what to tell her other than that her grip isn't firm enough, and then I watch her struggling to pull the trigger while holding too firmly, in my opinion. The pistol works fine in my hands. I'm just not enough of a pistol guy to guide her and could use some good advice.
The skinny...she's big enough to handle the pistol. She's right handed but left eye dominant. We've tried Browning, Federal, Winchester and S&B loads in the gun. I have her leaning into it, her thumbs are along side the left side of the frame.
Anybody got some advice for us?
Glocks are prone to do that with a severely limpwristed grip. There are some autopistols that will shoot even while being badly limpwristed, but a Glock isn't one of them.
My lovely daughter age 23 has taken a shine to her new purple G19, but it doesn't seem to like her as much. I don't know what to tell her other than that her grip isn't firm enough, and then I watch her struggling to pull the trigger while holding too firmly, in my opinion. The pistol works fine in my hands. I'm just not enough of a pistol guy to guide her and could use some good advice.
The skinny...she's big enough to handle the pistol. She's right handed but left eye dominant. We've tried Browning, Federal, Winchester and S&B loads in the gun. I have her leaning into it, her thumbs are along side the left side of the frame.
Anybody got some advice for us?
Rack the slide about a million times while sitting on the couch watching bad TV. Obviously no ammo around. Then clean and lube it. Good, cheap 124gr will run better than 115gr - more slide velocity. A G19, when broke in, will run when held upside down with two fingers. At least mine will.
I’ve observed several folks (my wife was one)having “stove piping” trouble with Glocks ……they were “limp wristing”! My wife has never had the issue with her Sig 938! memtb
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I’ve observed several folks (my wife was one)having “stove piping” trouble with Glocks ……they were “limp wristing”! My wife has never had the issue with her Sig 938! memtb
Because of the metal frame on the P938. Autopistols with polymer frames are the most prone to malfunction in the hands of a limpwrister because of how light they are (and thus need firm support from the hands in order to rack the slide during firing), but there are some polymer pistols that are less prone than the Glock to this. If one doesn't limpwrist it, though, a Glock is amazingly reliable.
