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Wonder if those females were bred?

Pardon me skipping all the posts above, but it seems to me that if they can use the wolves to cause a decline in game populations, they can make a case against allowing further hunting. That may well be the driving force behind this stuff. That Mule Deer maybe pressured too much matters not to them I expect.

If someone else already posted this idea well, sorry sorry sorry.

Yes, and those evil scoped sniper rifles.

The only good thing about the release of these five wolves in Colorado is that there are now five less wolves in Oregon.

10 oregon stock killers were released.

Might be just a bit early in the season for that.

Osky

Back in '79 and '80 friends and I drove up from Texas and bowhunted up on Unit 62. This was up on the Uncompahgre, 40 miles west of Montrose. At night we heard wolves howling every night. On the '80 trip, I actually had one trot by me within bow range, I had the wind right and no, I didn't even try to shoot him, ha. He looked 10ft long from nose to tail, big head and tall. I told a guy at a store down in Montrose we heard them at night, and I saw that one and he called me a liar! Heck, I know what a coyote looks like, a coydog looks like and a Red Wolf looks like! So they have been there quite awhile!!

Been told that myself about various critters
I finally came to the conclusion that the doubters
are usually those that spend an hour, hour and a
half, two hours in their stand, or depend upon
gamecams for all their scouting, or take naps
or diddle with their phone or whatever other
than observing while they're in the bush
Oh well. . . .

There are plenty of solid sightings coming out of Colorado particularly the last few years. It’s obvious with time they will repopulate wherever they want, there is no limit.
In Colorado’s case being they are there and gradually expanding the way wolves do, what is the true reason that state is rushing it with money and resources? I know all the guesses we have, I’d just like to hear it from the horses mouth, the truth that is.

Having the place in Northern MN since the 50’s I have seen as a boy when wolves were at manageable number and no harm to anything. They gradually unchecked over 30 years really exploded and first wiped out the moose, then on to the deer, then livestock.
You Colorado folks won’t see much of them in the first years or feel the impact but then they will have numbers and your elk will get clobbered in the spring during calving season when the wolves hunt hardest to feed feed pups and the denning anchors the pack to tighter areas. Don’t worry about your bulls, the young cows and calves will get hit hardest and first. That’s when the real damage is done. They kill to kill then as well, they don’t stay and clean up a kill like the hard times of winter. This scenario wiped out a lot of prime elk country up in the Clearwater basin towards Lolo in Idaho, Yellowstone, and other places in the west as well.


Unchecked the wolves are a parasite with no bounds. With all the protections they become 24hour fearless killers. Using Full senses including daylight the ungulates get no break and stress factors kick in to the hooved breeders. At the time people in Colorado start happily seeing wolves regularly in the daytime you will know your beautiful elk herds are in serious trouble, with only one unallowable cure. Good luck.

Osky

Thoughtful response Osky, and your insight comes from experience.

Colorado's experiment comes from the rabid enviro, animal rights, and unfortunately the voting majority. A 2020 ballot initiative that carried by 50.91% of the Colorado voting public mandated that Colorado Parks & Wildlife do this introduction regardless of the fact that wolves were establishing themselves.

This was the 3rd ballot box biology initiative that has passed in Colorado. The 4th is on it's way for 2024. As written, it will eliminate the hunting of mountain lions, bobcats, and lynx-more info here. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...cs/18969426/hunting-under-fire-co-and-or It's a long read, but trying to get the word out to help with the effort to shortstop this BS of the general public thinking that they should manage wildlife instead of the agencies with the expertise.

Merry Christmas!

LHS

Damn shame!

Media update-from Wyoming.

Cowboy State Daily

LHS

No but they track their movements for a good amount of time so they can backtrack them for some time. So don’t think you can simply float it down a river or throw it in the bed of a truck and think they won’t figure it out.

yep i mentioned this too and us /we the hunters and gun people are basically screwed ,10 years from now elk population will be half in Colorado. Minnesota used to have lots of deer ,moose and elk . now the moose are mostly gone, deer population is much lower now , elk population is low ,plenty beef cows have been missing and many are scared by wolf bites too. and to think 24 hr. Campfire has many liberals that vote for Biden Shameful .

Any clue if the woofs are headed for Wyoming ?? Love to hear they were all killed Shortly after crossing the state line.

if they do head north and get anywhere near the border, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that the CDOW&P would fly a heli up there and try to haze 'em back south.

Too bad that the powers that be can't understand that now that this country is populated by human beings wolves should be relagated to the status of the dinosaur, extinct . When you protect the takers in favor of the providers you are setting the stage for disaster for wildlife.

The ""real powers that be"" have a plan for the two legged variety , that plan is to lower the world population by 90%. Read up on it and I'll send you a tinfoil hat.

Colorado officials and everyone else who sustained the re-introduction of wolves in their state THIS way must be out of their minds.

Look at Germany. The where wolves were definetly extinct.

https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/mammals/wolves-germany


The Federal Departement of Environment states 1.339 wolves in Germany.

For comparison:


Below a chart showing the number of wolf attacks (black) and the number of killed or injured livestock (grey)



Montana: