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I could be wrong but I thought I read one time that international law says that if a war ship goes down the cargo when recovered is the property of the country that the war ship is from. So this would still be Spanish Gold. Just something in the back of my mind says this.
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I could be wrong but I thought I read one time that international law says that if a war ship goes down the cargo when recovered is the property of the country that the war ship is from. So this would still be Spanish Gold. Just something in the back of my mind says this. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...lion-in-gold-in-a-shipwreck#Post18905029
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Here's another wreck that's being resurrected off of Sardinia. They estimate it could have between 30 and 50,000 old coins from the end of the Roman period. For all those years, it was only about 50 yards offshore from a popular beach. A storm stirred up the sand and a diver found it. Tens of thousands of ancient coins have been found off Sardinia. They may be spoils of a shipwreck A diver who spotted something metallic not far from Sardinia’s coast has led to the discovery of tens of thousands of ancient bronze coins
ByThe Associated Press November 4, 2023, 11:00 AM
The Associated Press ROME -- A diver who spotted something metallic not far from Sardinia's coast has led to the discovery of tens of thousands of ancient bronze coins.
Italy’s culture ministry said Saturday that the diver alerted authorities, who sent divers assigned to an art protection squad along with others from the ministry’s undersea archaeology department.
The coins dating from the first half of the fourth century were found in sea grass, not far from the northeast shore of the Mediterranean island. The ministry didn't say exactly when the first diver caught a glimpse of something metallic just off shore Sardinia, not far from the town of Arzachena.
Exactly how many coins have been retrieved hasn’t been determined yet, as they are being sorted. A ministry statement estimated that there are at least about 30,000 and possibly as many as 50,000, given their collective weight.
“All the coins were in an excellent and rare state of preservation,” the ministry said. The few coins that were damaged still had legible inscriptions, it said.
“The treasure found in the waters off Arzachena represent one of the most important coin discoveries," in recent years, said Luigi La Rocca, a Sardinian archaeology department official.
La Rocca added in a statement that the find is “further evidence of the richness and importance of the archaeological heritage that the seabed of our seas, crossed by men and goods from the most ancient of epochs, still keep and preserve.”
Firefighter divers and border police divers were also involved in locating and retrieving the coins.
The coins were mainly found in a wide area of sand between the underwater seagrass and the beach, the ministry said. Given the location and shape of the seabed, there could be remains of ship wreckage nearby, the ministry said.
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Dunno if any of you fellas have experience in the world of treasure diving, but recovering that loot will be a very challenging endeavor. 3,100’? LMAO! No kidding, thats a pretty serious depth to work with ROV's. That's about 3/4 mile of cable, deep submersible can go that deep but there is only a few in existence so it's doubtful they will have one of those.
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Send the Ukranians down there to get that stuff................... Yeah, give Zelenskyy a mask, snorkel and a pair of flippers, and tell him it's all his.
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They can fight over it all they want, in the end Spain will wind up with it.
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I'm all about honesty but... I guess all it would take is one person on the salvage boat to think he didn't get his fair share and spill the beans. Loose lips sink ships has to have merit in a situation like this.
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Ain't that the truth. Tommy Thompson is still in jail after recovering the loot from the SS Central America. He has defied court orders to turn over the gold so the claimants can fight over it. The book, Ship of Gold, that tells of the search and actual find is a very good read…..
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I guess they won't need our cocaine money anymore. Who do you think is funding the expedition? You know if the Brits sunk it shouldn't they have first claim to salvage rights? After all the Spaniards were disenfranchising indigenous people and the British stopped them.....
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I wasn't aware there were ships large enough back then to hold 62 cannon, 600 men, and 200 tons of cargo along with everything else they needed to operate and survive at sea. I think you're right; there probably weren't any ships of that size then.
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Send the Ukranians down there to get that stuff................... Yeah, give Zelenskyy a mask, snorkel and a pair of flippers, and tell him it's all his. We gotta Gaylensky ballwasher right here on the 'fire, that could freedive down and grab alla that treasure, on one tanka air.
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Dunno if any of you fellas have experience in the world of treasure diving, but recovering that loot will be a very challenging endeavor. 3,100’? LMAO! No kidding, thats a pretty serious depth to work with ROV's. That's about 3/4 mile of cable, deep submersible can go that deep but there is only a few in existence so it's doubtful they will have one of those. OceanGate could handle it!
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I could be wrong but I thought I read one time that international law says that if a war ship goes down the cargo when recovered is the property of the country that the war ship is from. So this would still be Spanish Gold. Just something in the back of my mind says this. How could it belong to Spain if they stole it ? I would say it was property of the Indians it was stolen from.
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I could be wrong but I thought I read one time that international law says that if a war ship goes down the cargo when recovered is the property of the country that the war ship is from. So this would still be Spanish Gold. Just something in the back of my mind says this. How could it belong to Spain if they stole it ? I would say it was property of the Indians it was stolen from. It should be the property of whoever can bring it back up first.
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These folks are all going to court. They will all feel like they got screwed before this is over.
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Dunno if any of you fellas have experience in the world of treasure diving, but recovering that loot will be a very challenging endeavor. 3,100’? LMAO! John Burns is a 3,100' diver... Correct? Straight air as well.
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Dunno if any of you fellas have experience in the world of treasure diving, but recovering that loot will be a very challenging endeavor. 3,100’? LMAO! John Burns is a 3,100' diver... Correct? Straight air as well. No, but Biden is…
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