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Just waiting for someone to say the earth is flat and is situated at the centre of the solar system and the universe. If it's going to be silly, may as well go all the way.
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Ice cores can get us back about 70,000 years in Greenland and 400,000 in Antarctica. Dendrochronology can get us back a lot further than 5k years. The oldest living tree may be about 5000 years old but long dead preserved trees also provide ring data. Making a young earth an article of faith is foolish. A lot more emphasis is placed on the plan of salvation and that is really the important part isn’t it?
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Making a young earth an article of faith is foolish. I concur. Jesus and His Apostle’s certainly didn’t make it an article of faith. A lot more emphasis is placed on the plan of salvation and that is really the important part isn’t it? I concur. The main thing is to see to it that the main thing stays the main thing.
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We can see objects more than 10 billion light years away. Aside from the age of the earth, that means the universe is more-than 10 billion years old because that is how long it took for the light to get here. Maybe there was no “bang”. …. No…“Explosion at the moment of creation.” This idea that creation was…. “everything, everywhere all at once …” Give it a read…...a fascination… https://profoundphysics.com/did-the-big-bang-happen-everywhere-at-once/This would explain the 10 billion light years away question.
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By whose clock do you measure time; God's or man's? I believe every word of the Bible to be inspired by God, but for one to figure that His“day” is 24 hours and His “year” to be 12 months, is foolishness. His being is all powerful, and He is timeless. Someone once told me that “for a human mind to understand God would be like a dog learning algebra”. I periodically reread chapter 38 of Job. “ And God answered Job out of the storm…. Where were you when I laid the foundations of the Earth?” Reon One of my favorite scenes in the entire Bible. P
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Not this shït again.
Fuggin one trick pony you are. You are so shallow. Prove yourself correct. Afterall you are smarter than a Ph.D biochemist. What exactly is it you’re asking me to prove? That you’re a one trick pony? This sort of shït stirring is the bulk of your posts. Beside, you could be handed undisputed facts and you’ll still weasel around it.
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We can see objects more than 10 billion light years away. Aside from the age of the earth, that means the universe is more-than 10 billion years old because that is how long it took for the light to get here. You education is dated. Speed of light is measured from one point to a reflector and back. Many scientists are arguing the speed from the sender is infinite, thus throwing off any accurate measurement. Light years are NOT time. They are a distance. If the light speed from the sender, the star, is infinite, the light from a star would be observed instantly. In one of the papers I read some scientists discovered the speed of light, after going through a windshield, was 450 mph. There's just a lot we don't know and like Mark Twain said, "It amazing what a wholesale lot of conjecture scientists can come up with from such a trifling investment of facts." Now we have the speed of light faster than the speed of light. Someone call NASA. This is revolutionary stuff. Here’s a 🍪
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We can see objects more than 10 billion light years away. Aside from the age of the earth, that means the universe is more-than 10 billion years old because that is how long it took for the light to get here. You education is dated. Speed of light is measured from one point to a reflector and back. Many scientists are arguing the speed from the sender is infinite, thus throwing off any accurate measurement. Light years are NOT time. They are a distance. If the light speed from the sender, the star, is infinite, the light from a star would be observed instantly. In one of the papers I read some scientists discovered the speed of light, after going through a windshield, was 450 mph. There's just a lot we don't know and like Mark Twain said, "It amazing what a wholesale lot of conjecture scientists can come up with from such a trifling investment of facts." Now we have the speed of light faster than the speed of light. Someone call NASA. This is revolutionary stuff. Here’s a 🍪 Ringman's new speed of light doesn't even come remotely close to his ability for propagation of bullshit.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Regardless, it’s not a central issue to the faith of Christianity. When you get to Heaven, God’s not gonna say, “Did you think the universe was young or old…’cause if you thought it was old…you’re outta here”…!
The real issue is did Jesus rise from the dead for your sins, and if you put your trust and confidence in Him for that, then you’re saved, and all of this age of the earth stuff (as interesting as it is) is indeterminate (not determined by the Bible) and again, not central to following Jesus. Exactly right!
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Just waiting for someone to say the earth is flat and is situated at the centre of the solar system and the universe. If it's going to be silly, may as well go all the way. Well not the center of the universe or solar system. But at times it's flat, as a flat earth society member we believe that the farther you get away from 45 caliber in a black.powder cartridge gun the more likely you will fall off the edge.amd not find your way back. You gotta cut old ringman some slack IIRC he is an original fanboy of Happy Crapper the turd.
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Not this shït again.
Fuggin one trick pony you are. The usual trick...drop some stupid crap and watch the show as it gets kicked around.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Full of mis-representations and outright lies as is usual with that crowd.
Skip the first 12 minutes, it’s self-congratulatory fluff.
The arguments they state is that radio-isotope dating and all the other physical evidence is crap and that basing theories and conclusions upon observable evidence (ie. Science) necessarily rejects the existence of a God.
Their position is that the only reliable guide to the past is eye-witness testimony as recorded in their writing and the eye-witness was God, tho of course God didn’t write anything Hisself he was only quoted. Turns out Adam was fully literate. No record of Abraham reading anything written by Adam or reading anything written by people who had read anything written by Adam so as the moderator is obliged to interject, God musta spoke directly to Abraham too.
No mention at all of the troubling parallels between Genesis and the earlier Epic of Gilgamesh and no mention of the fact that numerous individuals including Joseph Smith and Mohammed have claimed that God through His angels spoke to them too. Same basis for conclusions ergo equally valid, or not.
The real irony being, IMHO, if ya want to see the handwriting of God, just step outside your door and look at the World around you.
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Science makes sense to me and religion doesn't. Earth age 4.5 billion vs 6000 years. So to thumpers... when did the dinosaurs live?
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Whatever anyone responding in this thread guesses, ... It will be wrong.
Simple measurement methods made so that the human brain can understand them, frankly don't mean much. All is as one day with God, for time is only measured unto men…
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No one knows how old the Earth is.
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No one knows how old the Earth is. I do. It's old as dirt.
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Upon what do you base your assertion on? This question is disallowed due to multiple grammatical infractions. Lay them on me. I see one.
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Ice cores can get us back about 70,000 years in Greenland and 400,000 in Antarctica. Dendrochronology can get us back a lot further than 5k years. The oldest living tree may be about 5000 years old but long dead preserved trees also provide ring data. Making a young earth an article of faith is foolish. A lot more emphasis is placed on the plan of salvation and that is really the important part isn’t it? Perhaps you are ignorant of the WW2 bomber which was recovered about 250 feet down in the ice. According to ice cores it was multiple thousands of years down. And yet it was only a few decades. Kind of sounds like radiometric dating: Unreliable. I remember one atheist in a lecture said something like, "If we can destroy the first three chapters of Genesis, in the burning remains will be the cross of Jesus." If death has been here before Adam, then what is the world going to return to when Jesus returns? Watch the video.
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Making a young earth an article of faith is foolish. I concur. Jesus and His Apostle’s certainly didn’t make it an article of faith. A lot more emphasis is placed on the plan of salvation and that is really the important part isn’t it? I concur. The main thing is to see to it that the main thing stays the main thing. Is it possible to discuss the fallacy of some arguments and still rely on Jeus' Blood for salvation?
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Not this shït again.
Fuggin one trick pony you are. You are so shallow. Prove yourself correct. Afterall you are smarter than a Ph.D biochemist. What exactly is it you’re asking me to prove? That you’re a one trick pony? This sort of shït stirring is the bulk of your posts. Beside, you could be handed undisputed facts and you’ll still weasel around it. Give me a couple of your best "undisputed facts", please. I am very interested in science.
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