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The OpenAI saga Re: the firing of Sam Altman has been associated with rumors that their AI engine has cracked AES 192bit cryptography. What this means is that nearly all documents and networks protected by cryptography are now vulnerable to hacking. So forget your cryptocurrency, your personal banking records and the privacy of your electronic medical records. https://darkfutura.substack.com/p/openai-q-saga-implications
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What a surprise!!!! (not)
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What does this mean for bitcoin
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What does this mean for bitcoin If/when this iteration of AI is released, it means Bitcoin networks and wallets can be hacked and anything can be done to them.
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Just wait until AI becomes able to write its own code.
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The real danger is quantum computing.
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The real danger is quantum computing. With regards to encryption - this ^^^
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The real danger is quantum computing. With regards to encryption - this ^^^ Quantum computing is hardware. AI is software. Marry the two, and then you'll have something interesting.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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So, nobodies bank account will be safe? should be easy peasy for A.I. to figure out passwords, no?
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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If Russia or China could offer the world a true alternative, one with the potential for real equitability, and non-extractive, exploitative, rent-seeking techno-corporate depredation by way of transhumanist enslavement built into its very heart and core, then the nefarious globalist powers will fail.
But the race is on, and for now the U.S. and its cutthroat class of transhumanist elite appear in the lead. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
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So, nobodies bank account will be safe? should be easy peasy for A.I. to figure out passwords, no? Take the passwords from one of the big data breaches, feed it into AI, and see what happens to its efface against human generated passwords.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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The real danger is quantum computing. We are still a ways out on that. When it becomes real, they will just have to change the encryption standard used to store it. If you don't think the .gov doesn't have compute clusters that can break 192 bit encryption pretty quickly, I have some beach front property in AZ I'll make you a deal on.
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I see AI and encryption being one if those riddles like “Can God make a boulder big enough he can’t move it?”
But the thing about AI is that once it truly starts, it will be completely alien and there is no way to control where it goes.
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So, nobodies bank account will be safe? should be easy peasy for A.I. to figure out passwords, no? The original "unbreakable" 40 bit banking encryption was broken under laboratory conditions back in the 90's which led to the move to the newer forever unbreakable 128 bit, oops, guess we better move to 192 bit encryption. This is just the newest iteration in the competition.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Well I guess if A.I. doesn't steal your bank account the government will
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How's that gold price doing?
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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The real danger is quantum computing. We are still a ways out on that. When it becomes real, they will just have to change the encryption standard used to store it. If you don't think the .gov doesn't have compute clusters that can break 192 bit encryption pretty quickly, I have some beach front property in AZ I'll make you a deal on. While the US has been the leader in QC, the Chinese are making huge leaps - https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...-smashing-quantum-computing-breakthroughWhen you country's future depends on the intellectual property of another, you get damn good at hacking. Why create when you can steal...
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Which one? That AES-192 has been broken, a claim based on a supposedly inside memo posted to Reddit? Or that AES-192 is the world’s strongest encryption, a claim based on ignorance?
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If/when this iteration of AI is released, it means Bitcoin networks and wallets can be hacked and anything can be done to them. Current standards for Bitcoin use a different encryption scheme for the wallets (SHA-256) and the transactions (256 bit EDCSA). So breaking them both would require breaking both. About the only angle AI would have to do either is to find vulnerabilities in the encryption protocols themselves, which most certainly could happen. At present there isn’t enough computing power in the world to brute force either of them in any useful amount of time.
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