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No, you’re not.

Read a high school earth science book.

Birdwatcher,

I agree with you about Adam writing something and eventually Moses got it. It displays a lack of faith in God's ability to give the facts to Moses, as Jesus says. If you want to believe in Epic of Gilgamesh which tells us the flood survivors were in a cube, go ahead. Noah's boat uses modern six to one ratio for a stable craft. Both Joe and the pedophile have lots of errors in their material. Show one from the Bible which has been proven by science and is undisputable by both creationists and evolutionists so we can all see it.

I don't believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. After I watched the video, "Were the pyramids built before the Flood?" I changed my mind. I think it is closer to 7,000 years old. It appears Bishop Usher didn't have the same manuscripts which were translated into Latin about 250 BC.

Some here have mentioned Job. At the end of Job two dinosaurs were described as alive at that time. How do you think people around the world were able to depict them on pottery and at grave sights and on walls? Because they were alive at the time. How do you think scientists are finding lots of soft tissues in dinosaur bones?

Ringman: Take a trip to Kemmerer Wyoming and visit The Fossil Butte National Monument. Spend 2 or 3 days there. If you go with a semi open mind you will come away knowing the earth is very old and life has been evolving on earth for eons.

It doesn't require you to become an atheist or to disavow Jesus to admit this. It requires you to understand that the bible was written by folks explaining things to the best of their understanding within the limits of their knowledge.

There was a flood and there probably were people that escaped in a boat, but the mountains did not go under. The genealogies are incomplete at best.

I am not saying there wasn't an Abraham or there wasn't a covenant. I'm saying there is a lot missing and as I said a lot was written with a limited understanding

Careful Mike. Just as there's a Schwarzchild radius associated with black holes, there's a Ringman radius. Don't get sucked in.

Brain washing! When I was in tenth grade biology class we were told Caucasians are the highest evolved race. This was in a school with about 2,500 kids from all ethnic groups in San Diego, California. I believed it until about twenty-five yeas of age. Now, science has discovered all humans are the same race.

Don't trust the science.

Ringman, I would suggest your assiniine posts have discouraged many fence-siiters from Christianity by making them believe all ""Christians" are retards.

Appeal to authority.

"Scientists say" lots of things, about lots of things, the global "climate crisis" and mRNA vaccines to name a couple more recent examples.

E.g. I heard a "scientist" say if we stop burning fossil fuels we can stabilize the climate. Evidence however indicates that the climate hasn't been stable for as long as the Earth has existed, however long you may think that may be.

Evidence is more important than what "scientists say".

More accurately, perhaps political ideologues who are labeled "scientists" have "discovered" all humans are the same race, but look around, the evidence clearly indicates that is not the case.

Some "scientists" are now also "discovering" we are not actually male or female. The list goes goes on.

Sure it is. That’s clearly been exactly what’s been occurring with multiple posts here.

I don't look to the first three chapters of Genesis to determine where I stand with God. I don't look to the first three chapters of Genesis to determine whether or not God loves me, whether or not God is with me, whether or not God cares for me.

Do you know where I look…? I look to a single event that took place on a hill outside the walls of Jerusalem. That's where I look, where God sent His son to pay for all of your sin and all of my sin. And that was His way of saying that He’s removed every obstacle between you and Him so that you can have fellowship with Him, and He can love you unconditionally. And He can hear your prayers regardless of your sin. And He can intervene if He chooses to. And He can comfort if that's what He chooses to do.

But you are in a right relationship with God. And you never ever, ever, ever, ever have to wonder if He loves you, if He cares about you, or if He is with you.

When someone can predict His own death and resurrection…and pulls it off…and He tells you that you can put your trust and confidence in Him…PERIOD…you believe Him.

76, comes September. All else is rumor.....

But my neighbor has a chicken-sized lizard egg- hard as a rock, which it is.

I gotta get a picture of that. Neat!

All cattle are the same species in that they can breed and produce offspring as can all humans, That is how the Neanderthal race disappeared and how the Texas Longhorn almost disappeared, they were absorbed.

That doesn't make an American bison the same ''race'' as a Jersey or a negro the same race as a Korean. Your book was basically correct then and now if you look at the evidence.

The different races although all of the human species certainly are different racially.

Do you believe that in 5000 years the human species could evolve into the various varieties such as the sub groups found in the various Caucasians, Mongoloids, Negroes, and whatever the Australian native is. Not to mention the huge disparities between the 3 main sub groups? Did Noah's little family turn into the 7 or 8 billion people we now have

Actually the ice above those planes built up over that last decades and are not the same ice taken in core samples. Extreamly weak (and laughable) argument from young earth believers.

I am ignorant of over 99% of all the knowledge accumulated throughout human history as are you. I do have some knowledge of this subject. I am familiar with the WWII bomber that was found in Greenland. Some ice sheets are two miles thick actually. The ice core samples taken in Greenland and the Vostock region of Antarctica are taken from the interiors of the ice caps where there is less shifting and variability and the longest/deepest core samples can be taken. The margins of the ice sheets shift and move a good bit even seasonally. This does not happen in the interior of the ice sheets. The aircraft was found in far southeastern Greenland which is near the margin of the ice sheet. The fact that it was found 268 feet deep near the margins of the ice sheet in no way refutes that ice core samples go back nearly 70,000 years in Greenland.

I did watch the full video by the way. Both gentlemen seem completely sincere in their beliefs. The older fellow who is the supposed expert bends science to fit his a priori conclusion that the earth is around 6,000 years old. Everything hinges on his argument that there could not have been any death or suffering of any kind by any creature before Adam's sin. For that he is willing to discard basically any proof that the earth if older than 6,000 years. The video if far from convincing.

so carbon dating old Dino bones that shows them millions of years old is flawed? Come on you can't be serious.

Most people believe in stuff that doesn’t have continuous evidence to prove their belief and sounds crazy, but some old guys wrote it in books and they choose to believe in it, despite those gaps in evidence. But hey, they have faith.

If that sounds like religion, it is….the religion of modern science.

Preconceived notions don’t belong in science. An outspoken atheist has the same religious approach to real science as a “Fire and Brimstone” evangelical preacher. The agnostic approach is the only true approach to science and that acknowledges the shortcomings of explaining things older than recorded history.

Historically speaking, Christians are more likely to take an agnostic approach than an atheist because even if science doesn’t prove Christianity right, there’s always God’s divine intervention. Atheists. however, can’t allow any explanation reside in intelligent design of any God. Zero. That level of prejudice doesn’t sound very scientific.

Some of the giants on who's shoulder's modern atheist scientists stand.

What do you base your statement on? Like you, your "fence-siiters" are making a choice now. God tells us those who do not know God and do not obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be destroyed.