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It's happening. The DWR is taking away scopes of more than 1x for all muzzleloading hunts. Red Dot and 1x will still be allowed. Who makes a very good 1x "SCOPE" that can be dialed up with the elevation turret? Maybe a reticle for holdovers? Again, very good with clear glass!!!

Alan

That sucks. Did they do anything with smokeless muzzleloaders?

Leupold made a 1x Prism scope with a turret but they're discontinued. In general, 1x scopes suck. I'd probably go with an Aimpoint or similar.

Im sure somebody will contract a chinese company for one LOL

what about the Primary Arms 1x prismatic?

Smokeless and any optic can still be used during "any weapon" hunts.

Searched "prismatic" on the PA website = nothing.

"Yeah, let's just make it easier for hunters to wound an animal that they are going to shoot at anyway". WTF

Why would anyone use a smokeless weapon during an any weapon hunt? Is it a draw thing that would put you in with archers and rifle hunters at the same time?

Also there is a 1x Nightforce on eBay for 1450$ which is double what it should cost but for the guy in need it's there.

Played with a few 1x scopes years ago when that was all that was legal here. If I had to go back to that I’d just get a red dot with the smallest dot I could.

It's only been maybe three or four years that Utah has allowed scopes other than 1x on muzzleloaders. Smokeless muzzleloaders are also new there.

Looks to me like no scopes at all during ML seasons red dot or otherwise. A lot of states are going this way. I have a buddy with a crazy custom everything ML that dropped a NM bull at like 700 yards. No NM is banning scopes as well.

I think, right or wrong, LR mls killed the scope for the rest of us and I expect more optic bans across the western states.

This is what is saw on line for UT

“No scopes would be allowed on muzzleloaders for muzzleloader hunts. This would include general season muzzleloader hunts, limited entry muzzleloader hunts, management muzzleloader hunts and HAMMS hunts. “

Good. A ML is supposed to be a primitive weapon. Fine rule!

That’s why they banned them in the first place.

More game agencies should do it across the west, and they should start chipping away at compound bows too. Archery season was never meant to include 80 yard shots.

Use a 1-6x24 and leave it on 1x. Damn simple.

Just cause a car can go 120 doesn't mean it's illegal to drive it in a 35 mph zone

Just use iron sights. I think that would be pretty easy.

Not sure that would fly with any of the game wardens I have ever met, which is thankfully only a few.

That will always be the case, regardless of any weapon or rule. People don't care about their personal limits....

I love the rule and I hunt muzzie Utah frequently. Anything that allows me to better out-hunt the public rather than be outtechnologied I am all in favor for. That's where the difference lies anyway. It just gets wider with this rule....

I tried a few 1x scopes. I didn't care for them. I find more precise aiming with peep sights.

Game management decision? Perhaps they looked at the harvests and decided to cut back a bit.

Do you have to draw for a ML tag? Here it’s part of the Sportsmans or Senior license.

Tough break for someone that purchased a gun with no sights based on the prior regs.