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The Earth is approximately as old as the hills.
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The Earth is approximately as old as the hills. Then it can be carbon dated. Because the hills are alive......
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"ALL fossils and fossil fuels can be carbon dated."
They can be dated, but not by carbon.
Your statements are absolutely the pinnacle of Bovine Excrement, due to either stupidity or gnorance. Or something. Doesn't seem curable tho.
And that's all I have to say about this. You are displaying ignorant prejudice. The video shows the fallacy of the general use of radiometric dating. This has been proven many times by dating rocks of known age. Do some more research.
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Science makes sense to me and religion doesn't. Earth age 4.5 billion vs 6000 years. So to thumpers... when did the dinosaurs live? I don't believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. After I watched the video, "Were the pyramids built before the Flood?" I changed my mind. I think it is closer to 7,000 years old. It appears Bishop Usher didn't have the same manuscripts which were translated into Latin about 250 BC. Some here have mentioned Job. At the end of Job two dinosaurs were described as alive at that time. How do you think people around the world were able to depict them on pottery and at grave sights and on walls? Because they were alive at the time. How do you think scientists are finding lots of soft tissues in dinosaur bones? so carbon dating old Dino bones that shows them millions of years old is flawed? Come on you can't be serious. Carbon dating can only be used for things less than about 50,000 years old. And it has to be living once. ALL fossils and fossil fuels can be carbon dated. Patently false. Almost no fossil are “young” enough to be carbon dated. Do more research.
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The Earth is approximately as old as the hills. Then it can be carbon dated. Because the hills are alive...... With the sounds of music.
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Carbon dating can only be used for things less than about 50,000 years old. And it has to be living once. ALL fossils and fossil fuels can be carbon dated. Are you aware that carbon is not the only isotope that’s used for radiometric dating? Are you aware of the known problem with dating rocks of known age? Rocks not of organic origin can not be dated accurately. Fossils were organic. Therefore they can be carbon dated.
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Carbon dating can only be used for things less than about 50,000 years old. And it has to be living once. ALL fossils and fossil fuels can be carbon dated. Which is why they don't use carbon-14 dating for dinosaur fossils. They use uranium-238, uranium-235, and potassium-40 dating, which have half lives in the millions of years, unlike carbon-14, which is useful only for dating man made objects. You are stuck in the same mire as the other posters. U-238 can't date things of known age accurately. Why accept it as valid for things of unknown age?
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You are displaying ignorant prejudice. The video shows the fallacy of the general use of radiometric dating. This has been proven many times by dating rocks of known age. Do some more research. You're referring to when Answers in Genesis sent new volcanic rock from Mt. St. Helens to a lab to be radiometrically dated, and it come back to be hundreds of thousands of years old. That was a case, however, where the person choosing the rocks to be dated was motivated to discredit radiometric dating, so intentionally selected samples that had contamination with older rock, such as samples mixed with material from the cap of the volcano.
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Trust science.
Distrust scientists.
Bruce Great post! LOL. Ringman, you do understand that science says the earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old, and it's only a very small minority of scientists who say it's much younger. Right? Are you aware evolutionist scientists become creationists every year. Can you name a single creationist who became an evolutionist?
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The fact is that the people who wrote the Bible weren’t scientists and didn’t have anyway of determining how old the earth is. They tried their best to explain the world to their readers. It’s best to leave science to the scientists.
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You can be both creationist and an evolutions. You believe that God created the universe and used evolution to create life to populate the earth.
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You are stuck in the same mire as the other posters. U-238 can't date things of known age accurately. Why accept it as valid for things of unknown age? When you say "of known age" you mean things that first came into existence within the last few thousand or few hundred years. The problem with that argument is similar to the problem of weighing yourself on a scale designed for weighing tractor trailers. While such a scale is ideal for weighing tractor trailers, you are certain to get a wrong weight for a human being because that scale is inappropriate for measuring things of so little weight. Try, also, measuring 8.4 grains of gun powder on your bathroom scale. Same problem. That doesn't mean your bathroom scale isn't perfectly fine for weighing yourself on.
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You can be both creationist and an evolutions. You believe that God created the universe and used evolution to create life to populate the earth. "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, etc., and it was so. And God said let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creatures that hath life." That doesn't describe a God blinking everything into existence. Sounds more like he subcontracted the work out to the waters and the earth, and they carried out his instructions.
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You are displaying ignorant prejudice. The video shows the fallacy of the general use of radiometric dating. This has been proven many times by dating rocks of known age. Do some more research. You're referring to when Answers in Genesis sent new volcanic rock from Mt. St. Helens to a lab to be radiometrically dated, and it come back to be hundreds of thousands of years old. That was a case, however, where the person choosing the rocks to be dated was motivated to discredit radiometric dating, so intentionally selected samples that had contamination with older rock, such as samples mixed with material from the cap of the volcano. No. I am referring to Dr. Steve Austin and others. They used rocks from My. St. Hellens and the Grand Canyon. The most interesting is they broke a rock into four pieces and sent them to four different laboratories. The date is varied by up to more than a billion years. Not very credible.
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Ringman, I would suggest your assiniine posts have discouraged many fence-sitters from Christianity by making them believe all "Christians" are retards. What do you base your statement on? Like you, your "fence-sitters" are making a choice now. God tells us those who do not know God and do not obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be destroyed. So you absolve yourself of ‘any’ responsibility for actually pushing people away from Jesus…?
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You can be both creationist and an evolutions. You believe that God created the universe and used evolution to create life to populate the earth. For the serious student, they are mutually exclusive. The Bible tells us the earth started out cool. Evolution teaches it started out hot. Creation teaches the earth will end by burning. Evolution teaches it will end cold.
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You are stuck in the same mire as the other posters. U-238 can't date things of known age accurately. Why accept it as valid for things of unknown age? When you say "of known age" you mean things that first came into existence within the last few thousand or few hundred years. The problem with that argument is similar to the problem of weighing yourself on a scale designed for weighing tractor trailers. While such a scale is ideal for weighing tractor trailers, you are certain to get a wrong weight for a human being because that scale is inappropriate for measuring things of so little weight. Try, also, measuring 8.4 grains of gun powder on your bathroom scale. Same problem. That doesn't mean your bathroom scale isn't perfectly fine for weighing yourself on. Your escape mechanism is not working. When something doesn't work, it doesn't work.
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Your escape mechanism is not working. When something doesn't work, it doesn't work. You'd better throw your bathroom scale away, then, because it simply doesn't work for weighing 8.4 grains of gun powder.
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You can be both creationist and an evolutions. You believe that God created the universe and used evolution to create life to populate the earth. "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, etc., and it was so. And God said let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creatures that hath life." That doesn't describe a God blinking everything into existence. Sounds more like he subcontracted the work out to the waters and the earth, and they carried out his instructions. The same Bible tells us, "God spoke and it was.". Not only that, God Who created time defines it in Genius 1:14f. Therefore your argument is incorrect.
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No. I am referring to Dr. Steve Austin and others. They used rocks from Mt. St. Helens and the Grand Canyon. The most interesting is they broke a rock into four pieces and sent them to four different laboratories. The date is varied by up to more than a billion years. Not very credible. Did ANY of those 4 different labs date their rock sample at 6000 to 7000 years old…?
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