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I think they are expecting it to absorb the earth in a red giant rather than a nova.

So what was the foundation of Peter’s faith…? Where did Peter get his hope…? Where did Peter get his boldness…? Where did he get his confidence…? It sure as heck wasn’t from the first three chapters of Genesis…! How is it he’s out walking around in the open…proclaiming Jesus to the very people who had Him killed…whereas before he was afraid and ran for his life…? Again, it sure as heck wasn’t because of the first three chapters of Genesis…!

The foundation of Peter’s faith wasn’t something he’d read or had read to him. The foundation of Peter’s faith was what he’d seen. So for Jesus’ followers nowadays, what should be the foundation of their faith…? What should be the epicenter of their confidence…? It sure as heck isn’t the first three chapters of Genesis…!

Apostle Peter would say “that’s easy…the resurrection”…!

This is how the message of Jesus survived the Jewish Temple and the Roman Empire. And remember that the first persecution of Christians was from the Jewish Temple, it wasn’t from Rome. This is how Christianity survived the first, second, third, and the beginning of the fourth century.

The first-century followers of Jesus embraced what all followers of Jesus nowadays oughta embrace: they embraced the stand-alone version of Christianity. They didn’t need the first three chapters of Genesis to prop up their faith. They didn’t need the creation narrative in Genesis explained to them to prop up their faith. They didn’t need the story of Noah, or the story of Jonah to prop up their faith. They didn’t need the Law of Moses to prop up their faith. Christianity stood on its own two nail-scarred, resurrection, first-century feet. It did then, and it does now.

Will this affect my Netflix and McDonalds?

So do auto mechanics, but that doesn't mean cosmology is part of the study of auto mechanics.

Guess where lead came from? The decay of uranium which has a half life of 4.5 billion years. You won't even consider anything that challenges your belief. Pure confirmation bias at work.

Precisely.

I am? Interesting.

I thought I was a creationist that makes counterpoints to atheists that falsely advertise they “Know” that there’s absolutely no way the universe was created by intelligent design.

You may want to re-read my statement about the use of the term “Rigorous” as a scientific description of testing. Perhaps, maybe then, you’ll consider my suggestion of that term being overly rhetorical has just the slightest bit of merit and reconsider asking me to use it.

Then again….maybe you won’t.

Awwww. Little fella doesn’t like his tone being returned in his direction. Christians are supposed to tolerate your asinine, provocative behavior. Not return it.

Credibility? Is that when you make a slanderous statement, like saying they’re a geocentric flat-earther when they’re not? If so, you’ve got all the credibility, genius.

There is no faith required to realize no one knows how much was there in the beginning. And no one knows what happened during the millions of years while it decays.

I guess you are the one exercising faith in the unseen and unknown.

Jesus says the Father IS working now. John 5:17

If you're around lead that came from uranium with a half-life of 4.5 bn years, it ain't lead, yet.

That is a lot of words to say what you have said many times. You seem to forget there are many people who come to Jesus because their faith in evolution fell apart. Then they look to the Savior.

You wrote a couple lines about Peter. He teaches those who are serious, "Grow in grace and knowledge...." Which includes more than the cross. It includes Peter ordering the first Gentiles to be baptized in water. He believed Jesus when Jesus says, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved."

So was the writer of Hebrews wrong…?

From where did the mineral which decayed into lead come? Where did the law of decay come from?

Rather than starting with assumptions and reading deceptive and biased creationist material to reinforce your beliefs, just pick up a textbook on physics and learn.

Pick up your comics, girlyboy, and lose yourself in fantasy.....no doubt that happened long ago, you are now older, but never matured, tragically trapped in a fantasy world of your own making.

I don’t recall ever voicing my opinion one way or another on this subject but I would lean in that direction but I don’t think there is enough information to make a definitive decision.
The 24 hour period is very clear isn’t it?
“God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.”
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You do have the creationist part down though.

In any event the Gospel is what’s important. The fact that someone paid your debt/ransom so that you wouldn’t have to.

I doubt there are “many” who are led to Jesus “because their faith in evolution fell apart.” I think their number likely pales in comparison to the people who are pushed away from Jesus because of folks who profess to be Christians that come across as being the polar opposite of Jesus.But NONE of that changes what Peter made clear was the very foundation of his faith and hope…! None of that has anything to do with Peter’s decision to follow Jesus after the resurrection. You can reference whatever you choose to (including your perception of the inadequacy of my reasoning).

I think Peter himself would explain his reasoning ~ and I think he only had one reason. When Jesus was arrested, Peter ran...and when asked if he knew Jesus, he lied. And when the Romans crucified Jesus, he died. And at that time, Peter was like other non-believers...he had no faith. He didn’t know what to believe. He had no reason to believe. He’d just spent 3 years of his life following a false prophet, and now he had a price on his head.

And then Jesus came…there He was...very much alive. I think Peter would tell you…and clarify one thing with you…
his reason for believing wasn’t because of something he’d heard or read or had read to him. And it sure as heck wasn’t because of the first three chapters of Genesis. I think he’d tell you that he believes what he believes because of what he saw...he watched Jesus die, he knew exactly where Jesus was buried, but God raised Him...and Peter saw Him, and he saw Him more than once. That’s the reason...that’s the only reason...for Peter’s hope. He very clearly said so. And that is the reason for my hope as well.

I do beleive you are trying to be a little tricky by using something out of context. I will post a few Verses for those who might be following. If this is not what you are talking about please post the refernce.

Hebrews 4:4-11

"For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh: 'And God rested on the seventh day from all is works'; and again in this "They shall not enter My rest" Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, He again fixes a certain day, 'Today,' saying though David after so long a time just as has been said before, ' Today if you hear His voice do not harden your hearts.' For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. Therefore, let us be diligent to enter that rest, so that on one will fall, through the same example of disobedience."

I will include the next two verses to help people know they will have to deal with the Word of God, Jesus.

Hebrews 4:12-13

"For the Word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with Whom we have to do."

My intention for this thread was to challenge people to think for themselves and come to Jesus. The Author and Finisher of our faith. What is yours, antlers?

Fair enough.

As for the 24 hours, I concur with your interpretation of the meaning of that passage.

Claiming that's not 24 hours is tantamount to claiming magazines are not protected arms under the Second Amendment.