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Friend of a friend asked recommendation for straight wall cartridges in Ohio. For healthy teenage farm boy. Preferred straight wall cartridges? Preferred rifle platform? As always, cost will be a consideration. LGS says rifles chambered for .350 Legend and new .400 Legend are the current hot items. .350 is available in Savage and Ruger rifles. .400 appears to only be available in Savage at the moment...

What say the 'Fire straight wall shooters?



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If ammo availability (offline) is a consideration, 350 Legend is EVERYWHERE. If there was ever the possibility of pairing it with a revolver, a used lever gun in 357 mag or 44 mag would be cool to have when the kid gets older.

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Don't forget 450 bushmaster. Ruger does some in the American line.


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Big fan of the 44mag lever gun also use a 450 bushmaster Ruger #1


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If he has an AR already, then there are plenty of uppers available.

BCA has em cheap, they get decent reviews.

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I like the 350. Low recoil, accurate enough, flat enough for 200yds, seems like it works in an AR with ammo I like good enough to blast deer with.


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I picked up a Ruger Ranch in 450 BM a few years ago for Iowa deer. I really liked that combo until Iowa opened to bottleneck .35s and up. I could still be set up pretty well with that outfit- there and here at home.

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Oh yes the .450 Bushmaster no doubt, plenty of factory ammo options...probly just make it a Ruger American go wild edition or a CVA Cascade đź‘Ť....Hb

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That 400 Legend has my attention

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Don’t forget the Remington Buckhammer…. :-)

I bought a 450BM after a very disappointing (the least accurate rifle I’ve ever owned) Marlin 44Mag lever. I also have a 350 Legend and both are good straight walled cartridges. Either of them would work well for deer. If it’s just a deer hunting gun and that’s the only time it gets used for, I’d go with the 450BM. Cost of ammo should be a little lower for the 350 Legend so if he’s going to be shooting it a lot, go with the 350. I can’t imagine he’d be disappointed with either one of them.

I cast for both of mine and can plink all day long with either except my lead is going to last a lot longer with the 350 Legend shooting a 127 TC 9mm bullet. Lightest I shoot in the 450 is 235gr…

Both of mine are in a CVA Cascade.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
That 400 Legend has my attention


Yeah, me too…. Just about the last thing I need but it doesn’t come down to need! :-)

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Got a 350 in a cva single shot scout, I like it pretty well

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I hunt with a Browning 1885 single-shot falling-block in .44 Magnum. I love it for the seven stands I hunt out of that have a range of less than 100 meters. Light recoil. Good kills if I do my job correctly. Legal for the Mississippi primitive season. If I needed more range, then the Legends might be a better choice but this round has worked really well for me. Since cost is a consideration, an 1885 won't be an economical choice. But the round is very good for deer hunting at the ranges I'm using it at & I think would make a good youth cartridge.

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After years of hunting with a muzzleloader and a slug gun in Ohio, I bought a 350 Legend two years ago. I’ve shot 2 with it and one went about 10 yards and other maybe 30. As others have said, almost zero recoil and accurate. I am careful with shot placement and try to avoid the front shoulder.


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I primarily use a Ruger 77/44; my backups are a Contender Carbine in 357 Maximum and (for long range) an Encore in 460 S&W. But for a new deer hunter in Ohio, my recommendation would be buy a Ruger American in 350 Legend.


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I really like the 350L so far. Very little recoil is a bonus. Seems to be on par with the 30-30 as far as killing power.

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If recoil an issue, avoid 450 BM - kicks almost as much as my 7mm RM. 350 will easily take you out to 200 yards, 250 with good placement. 450 gets you an extra 50 yards (at the cost of recoil). Even though 450 had a 2 year head start, I've seen MUCH more 350 ammo in Michigan than 450. YMMV. My buddy uses 450 to hunt the swamp and regularly drops deer at 225 yards.

There have been some complaints about minimal blood trail from certain 350 bullets, but placement eliminates that issue. My Savage Axis II with 22" bull barrel is hitting 3" circles at 200 yards using Federal 180gr, and I just picked up Barnes Vortex 170 which I won't get to try until after holidays. I previously had the Axis XP with std barrel and, similar to Axis II, it preferred heavier 180gr bullets for best accuracy (the Axis II also liked 150gr...go figure). Again, YMMV.

I did buy the BCA 350 upper, but was disappointed with accuracy and sold it.

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A marlin in 357 with the flex tip Hornady bullets would be just the ticket. 2-7 or similar scope and it’s money.

That said, a 350 upper on an AR is easy to acquire and inexpensive to feed.

A 1-6 or 1-8 scope it’s done and done.


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This past summer I developed a load for my CVA Scout 444 Marlin rifle. Love the gun and trigger. I used a 225 gr. Bear Creek copper bullet. It shot a .682 MOA 3 shot group with an average velocity of 2,725 fps. I’ll admit I haven’t done a ton of research on straight wall cartridges but I feel this is setup is about as good as it gets.

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.350 Legend!!

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