Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters 10,000 Swedish Moose died to teach us this lesson.

Sooooooo, I am planning a two rifle battery. Down from about 7 in recent years. One is a Sako 9.3x66 and I was thinking 3006 in a sako Finnlite. The 9.3 will cover off the moose and bear with reliable performance. I understand the concept of the trajectory magnum, have hunted a 7 mag for years and bought and sold a 300WM. But, I'm looking for a light rifle and figure a 3006 with the TSX bullet would fill that bill. IS there some other caliber I should be looking at, my light rifle still needs to down a moose in a reliable fashion.

Spot on..... Agree totaly...

Killing [bleep] is pretty simple......

I can't think of a better twosome for B.C.'s big game myself.

To all,

In the Swedish moose study the 300 WM and 358 Norma did better from what we know.

What we don't know is the exact detail of where the bullets hit. All it would take is a few neck shots and the averages would change a lot.

I looked up what the withers means that Triggerguard mentioned.

Oddest damn moose I ever saw...............

I enjoyed this article and in a round-about fashion it influenced a few of my firearms purchases. I purchased a 6.5x55mm as a light recoiling "deer rifle" for my youngest son. I purchased a 9.3x62mm for black bear based on J.B.'s writings. I don't have an opinion about the 6.5x55mm except I like the light recoil and accuracy in my Ruger 77. One black bear, one shot. I think the article shows the effect of significantly larger calibers and bullet weights, some improvement but not "magic" by any means. I like the .35 Whelen, not as much gun as the .358 Norma, but still effective. I have used the .308 Winchester for years and am not surprised by its standing as a moose cartridge. The .338 Win Mag isn't among the statistically significant cartridges, but still shows promise. Wacking something big with a .375 H&H is another adventure that will have to wait for money and time. I'd moose hunt on a regular bases if possible, except for the two reasons stated above. I think you could form an arguement for medium velocity rounds at reasonable weights and good sectional density. I would like to know the particulars of the bullets used by these hunters, but suspect they used common over the counter ammunition. I have heard there is a Swedish tradition to reload military calibers to make practicing cheaper and the citizens more prepared. The standard 140 grain 6.5x55mm has a sectional density of .287, higher than a 180 grain .308, equal to a 230 grain .338. No particular point except common bullets that are heavy and not to fast seem to work well.

You guys cracked me up!!!

Reminds of old TX joke.

Wifey hunts with husband, and gets her game on the ground.

She is standing there, waiting for husband after her shot. A pre-arranged deal in their plan.

In a few minutes cowboy steps out of brush and says, "Maam, I would...........".

Wifey 'bout jumps out of boots. Turns around with her rifle pointed at cowboy and says, "My husband warned me about other hunters trying to steal my deer. You stay right there until my husband shows up."

Cowboy says, "Maam, I would like to know if all right I get my saddle off your deer?"

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Killing [bleep] is pretty simple......
Steelehead is back!

They told me that was a girl moose. Girl moose don't have antlers. That one has some snow on it.

Good story Remseven.

Ooops... comment wasn't directed at you. Just being my normal persnickety self. Sorry.

If you need my permission to do that with a 7-08, go right ahead.

Furprick,

As some guy named Townsend Whelen once wrote, "The .30-06 is never a mistake."

No problem at all

I imagine if it can be done with the 300, it could be done with the 7-08....perhaps just a broken heart.

Would have a hard time seeing it done with an arrow whatever term one may use...

We call it the hump here in Canada- same thing only more prominant on moose. That is the best place to hit moose, they go down big time and they can't get up. But you then need another shot to the head to finish the job. Do the swedes count that shot also?
By the way Savage your moose has shoes.

You guys are missing the one indisputable conclusion that can be drawn from the moose data. That is that Swedish moose can not, or, do not, read ballistics tables. Apparently it is not just American and Canadian herbivores that go to crappy public schools and make it to adulthood lacking literacy and numeracy. I don't know if it is happenstance, or the direct result of some worldwide conspiracy by the lever action crowd or turn o' the century milsurp proponents.

Either way, I'm all for maintaining the ignorance of the tastier herbivores; being a lefty, I can't stop by Grumpy Bob's gun store and pick up a .590 Mountainsplitter just to hunt moose with. At least with uneducated prey, I can harvest a variety of game with a .30-06 without apologia.

Good lord, don't give our federal wildlife people any ideas...

378,

For someone who avoids shoulders in deference to meat loss, you sure like a "meat shot" with that hump....and with what effect if the shot is a bit high?

Klikitarik- Draw a line from the top of the hump to the brisket, and you will get aprox 3 feet on a large moose. Aim for the middle and you can be 1 foot high or 1 foot low and still kill that moose very effectively.
The hump meat is usually so tough that it is usually hamburger meat.
The shoulder blades are traversed easily and the biggest hole I have seen to date is about the size of a baseball on exit.
Where else on the moose do you see getting this 3 foot range?
The prime cuts are at the rear but you allready know that right?

Thats interesting. I shoot my red deer in the same place. They go down straight away and never have taken a step. By the time you get to them they have usually expired.
It seems to take out the the shoulders, the spine and clip the top of the lungs all at the same time. Very effective place to shoot for. Easier target than a neck shot and with the same result. Always wondered what that was called.

It's a fair-sized window with one of the least meat-damaging shots you can take.....especially if you aren't throwing 300 grains of lead at 3,000fps....(grin)

The "withers" basically give you a great target that has fingers reaching down and connect the critter's entire spine. Since I haven't shot a moose yet, I can't comment, but for Elk it's the ticket. Normally place them in the shoulders on deer, but bear is another critter that will drop like a rock with that shot.

If you're looking to anchor your next bull elk, I'd highly recommend the technique, and fret not about your measily standard caliber making out in great fashion.