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Damn Federal minimum wage and inflation, Workers have to make a "living wage" but prices are up exponentially, so less buying power, But that's OK because the Gov't collects more in taxes to send to our friends across the oceans....
And these zombies line up and eat from the media’s trough
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Everything is going up... across the board.
Printing 15 trillion dollars of unbacked currency... has the tendency to make the 15 trillion of backed currency worth half as much...
Y'all liking them Covid bucks now?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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You must pay for everyone else........
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Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
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Just ordered three more hacks of OSB...
I expect a price jump again.
$3,780 spent...
If the price jumps 15%
I just saved $567.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Ordered two loads of White Pine logged two days ago... 40k BF
I am betting on an increase there as well...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Just as I'm getting back into reloading after a 25 year hiatus.
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The most telling statement is that there will be a Global shortage of POWDER!
Vista owns so many companies now and the Government can bring so much pressure to bear on them....
Frog---OUT!
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My suspicion is the reloading bottleneck will continue to be primers. If you have the means, a couple bricks of small rifle (or unicorn large rifle, if you are lucky enough to find them) would not be a bad Christmas present to yourself...
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We are cooked. Glad I have enough to keep the 270win and 308win 30-06 running for me.
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Funny how that one keeps coming up every time the s hit hits the fan. 81 million my arse!
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Funny how that one keeps coming up every time the s hit hits the fan. 81 million my arse! except its not funny how its so totally true.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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We are cooked. Glad I have enough to keep the 270win and 308win 30-06 running for me. I have enough to load 1000 Hornets and 1350-ish 7x64, though 60 of the large rifle primers are actually older than me. I don't even know how these appeared! I think I shall hunt online for another couple of bricks of large and small CCI primers, just in case. Added. Okay, I just went peering in containers and found these store bought 7x64 that someone gave me God-knows-when. But these primed WW SUPER 257 ROBTS are an absolute mystery as I have never even owned a Roberts. I am really going to have to go through my stuff. And it turns out that I have more 22lr than I thought I had, good for me.
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Vista's near-monopoly on ammo manufacturing couldn't possibly have anything to do with it....
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We are below 25K primes south and probably about the same north. I'd invest in more primers and powder for sure if it was readily available and at some form of decent price.
Thankfully we did a bit of stocking up at times. And have not shot nearly as much as we used to.
Those are OLD primers. Cool to see.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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My suspicion is the reloading bottleneck will continue to be primers. If you have the means, a couple bricks of small rifle (or unicorn large rifle, if you are lucky enough to find them) would not be a bad Christmas present to yourself... I've actually got almost a full thousand of those from when I bought them over twenty years ago. I'll have to load up some .45-70 and .348 Winchester once I'm fully back in the swing.
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Yes
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Everything is going up... across the board.
Printing 15 trillion dollars of unbacked currency... has the tendency to make the 15 trillion of backed currency worth half as much...
Y'all liking them Covid bucks now? C'mon, Man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,inflation has leveled off; Joey said so. FJB MM
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Be happy you still can get it at any price. If 2024 elections go sideways ( fill in Democrats here) price will be the least of our problems.
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Be happy you still can get it at any price. If 2024 elections go sideways ( fill in Democrats here) price will be the least of our problems. Not happening.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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Just a quick look at Powder Valley and MidSouth showed a bunch of powder and also small rifle primers in stock this morning, if you are in the US.
Yes, shìt's way too expensive. No, it ain't gonna get any better
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Up the prices to pay for donating a million rounds before selling to Czechoslovak Group. Just a quick look at Powder Valley and MidSouth showed a bunch of powder and also small rifle primers in stock this morning, if you are in the US.
Yes, shìt's way too expensive. No, it ain't gonna get any better Except for Alliant, cuz, you know, it's all going in ammunition to Ukraine.
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They put the writing in the wall months ago when they were talking about an arms shortage. You would think with all the powder being burned in Ukraine they would be out of people to shoot at by now.
It’s all contrived.
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Everything is going up... across the board.
Printing 15 trillion dollars of unbacked currency... has the tendency to make the 15 trillion of backed currency worth half as much...
Y'all liking them Covid bucks now? C'mon, Man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,inflation has leveled off; Joey said so. FJB MM Inflation is at 2%. Joe pedo and KJP said so (Both lying chkunts).
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Sounds like they are trying to stimulate ammo sales at the end of the year to make 2023 look better.
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They put the writing in the wall months ago when they were talking about an arms shortage. You would think with all the powder being burned in Ukraine they would be out of people to shoot at by now.
It’s all contrived. Maybe they are bad shots.
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No, or little powder made in the US. It has to get here from there before a company here can hoard or jack prices. The powder getting to our shores could be inflated already, if available at all.
Typical of potential problems that can/will occur with off shore manufacturing &/or foreign ownership of companies in the US.
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Sounds like they are trying to stimulate ammo sales at the end of the year to make 2023 look better. I hope that's it.
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Not gonna say the total amount I have, but I'm 53, I will be an old man if I ever get through what primers I have, and likely I never will. Having more of them than what I'll probably use turns out is a pretty good thing.
Powder and bullets I will run out on long before primers, but so far a guy can still buy powder and bullets if he needs them. I'm gonna hedge on powder and bullets and figure I can buy later if needed as I got plenty for now. If a guy is getting low, better get it if you can just to cover yourself until we see how this all shakes out in the end.
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Local store has cci and various other primers at $60/k. They gave me a 10% off coupon for tomorrow only when I was in there earlier buying some bolts. Gonna have to go in and stock up on some.
It doesn’t help that essentially one supplier has a near monopoly on primers, another on power, and again on loaded ammo. On top of that probably 50% inflation is staring us in the face. Prices can’t help but go up. The government has essentially stolen half your income and retirement without passing a law or doing anything else when they printed all those trillions out of thin air.
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Not gonna say the total amount I have, but I'm 53, I will be an old man if I ever get through what primers I have, and likely I never will. Having more of them than what I'll probably use turns out is a pretty good thing.
Powder and bullets I will run out on long before primers, but so far a guy can still buy powder and bullets if he needs them. I'm gonna hedge on powder and bullets and figure I can buy later if needed as I got plenty for now. If a guy is getting low, better get it if you can just to cover yourself until we see how this all shakes out in the end. Powder is tough to get most of the time. At least what you want and in quantity that you want. Bullets. I don't have it yet... but everyone should buy a die to form some standard ones. The jackets and lead to go with. And bullet molds and lead to cast with...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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The government has essentially stolen half your income and retirement without passing a law or doing anything else when they printed all those trillions out of thin air. Bingo! Theft is what it was.
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Not gonna say the total amount I have, but I'm 53, I will be an old man if I ever get through what primers I have, and likely I never will. Having more of them than what I'll probably use turns out is a pretty good thing.
Powder and bullets I will run out on long before primers, but so far a guy can still buy powder and bullets if he needs them. I'm gonna hedge on powder and bullets and figure I can buy later if needed as I got plenty for now. If a guy is getting low, better get it if you can just to cover yourself until we see how this all shakes out in the end. Powder is tough to get most of the time. At least what you want and in quantity that you want. Bullets. I don't have it yet... but everyone should buy a die to form some standard ones. The jackets and lead to go with. And bullet molds and lead to cast with... Powder is available here, and has been for quite some time. Problem is prices. $45-$55 a lb is typical for a lot of the more common sought after stuff.....Varget, 4350, etc. So far though I can get if I'd want, a lot of the Ramshot powders, and most of the Accurate powders for a good bit cheaper than that. Never used a lot of the Ramshot powders and have never used any Accurate brand powders, but that might be changing down the road.
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Wait until that 25% pay increase kicks in to auto workers. You haven't seen anything yet.
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Local store has cci and various other primers at $60/k. They gave me a 10% off coupon for tomorrow only when I was in there earlier buying some bolts. Gonna have to go in and stock up on some. . 54 bucks a brick for name brand primers is an excellent price, by today's standards.
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A month or so ago I noticed an over 10% increase in the lowest 9mm ammo prices from a large online retailer that had consistently had some of the most competitive prices over the past year or two.
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Guess the ammo companies are not fuggin us hard enough already!
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Guess the ammo companies are not fuggin us hard enough already! Someone is.
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I read today that the latest survey shows that 52% of American households have at least 1 gun. That's will over 150 million guns at just 1/family and we know there are a LOT more than that. It all takes a pile of ammo. The biggest demographic group who's buying guns is liberal Jews. They're waking up.
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Lots of ammo on sale at midway.
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Ammo going up???
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Just as I'm getting back into reloading after a 25 year hiatus. Don't you mean Handloading, or have you been buying factory for 25 years?
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Just as I'm getting back into reloading after a 25 year hiatus. Don't you mean Handloading, or have you been buying factory for 25 years? Mainly reloading. I rarely buy new brass. And it's still reloading if you use brass more than once.
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Waiting on some .22 magnum less than $10 a box of 50.
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Waiting on some .22 magnum less than $10 a box of 50. Best I could find was in the $15 range. At Midsouth Renegade50 was telling me about a colony of 5 lb fox squirrels he discovered. LOL dude pass me that joint 5lb 🤣🤣 Nonetheless I stocked up some WMR, for our end of deer season squirrel Pol Pot eradication program. 😂
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Waiting on some .22 magnum less than $10 a box of 50. Best I could find was in the $15 range. At Midsouth Renegade50 was telling me about a colony of 5 lb fox squirrels he discovered. LOL dude pass me that joint 5lb 🤣🤣 Nonetheless I stocked up some WMR, for our end of deer season squirrel Pol Pot eradication program. 😂 I misspoke, $10.99. Still a good deal. https://www.surplusammo.com/product...ated-brass-casing-armscor-usa-50rds.html
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They put the writing in the wall months ago when they were talking about an arms shortage. You would think with all the powder being burned in Ukraine they would be out of people to shoot at by now.
It’s all contrived. If you ever watch or listen to Douglas MacGregor, you would know that Ukraine pretty much is out of people to shoot.
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They put the writing in the wall months ago when they were talking about an arms shortage. You would think with all the powder being burned in Ukraine they would be out of people to shoot at by now.
It’s all contrived. If you ever watch or listen to Douglas MacGregor, you would know that Ukraine pretty much is out of people to shoot. We should send lots of Americans then... Lots and lots of Americans. Americans dying for foreign countries that hate Americans... is kinda like a tradition. Right?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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As long as the right people get rich...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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They put the writing in the wall months ago when they were talking about an arms shortage. You would think with all the powder being burned in Ukraine they would be out of people to shoot at by now.
It’s all contrived. If you ever watch or listen to Douglas MacGregor, you would know that Ukraine pretty much is out of people to shoot. We should send lots of Americans then... Lots and lots of Americans. Americans dying for foreign countries that hate Americans... is kinda like a tradition. Right? Oh yeah. Mitch, Pelosi and the gang need a new lapel pin.
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My friend owns the lgs and told me all his suppliers have issued warnings of price increases or availability issues of ammo after the first of the year. If you need anything, get it now.
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Waiting on some .22 magnum less than $10 a box of 50. Best I could find was in the $15 range. At Midsouth Renegade50 was telling me about a colony of 5 lb fox squirrels he discovered. LOL dude pass me that joint 5lb 🤣🤣 Nonetheless I stocked up some WMR, for our end of deer season squirrel Pol Pot eradication program. 😂 I misspoke, $10.99. Still a good deal. https://www.surplusammo.com/product...ated-brass-casing-armscor-usa-50rds.htmlCool Thanks
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