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Not personally but there is zero doubt they existed. They are well known and well documented authors of their own works. No one even knows who wrote much of the Bible. And that is what I mean by "Know". I could have perhaps worded it better.



Really? What evidence exists for the supernatural claims of the Bible? Note: The claims of an unknown author writing a story is not evidence. Also, a book mentioning a place or a person that actually existed in no way legitimizes the supernatural claims. That is a terrible and unreliable standard to adopt. For example there is a book (and really crappy movie) called "Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter". The book is set in America and mentions many real American towns and places. The central character is Abraham Lincoln a man who actually existed. It is set during the Civil War which was a real event that actually happened. So does that mean the parts about vampires are real? Of course not. The same goes for religious stories.


When and where have people been imprisoned, tortured, or killed for questioning science? Love to read about that because I missed it. Do you have a link?

Ray F: As to marine species found high in the mountains. Check out plate tectonics. Take a pencil and figure out what 1/4 inch rise a year can accomplish in a million years.

I come up with 20,000+ feet. So Mount Everest which is still growing could easily have been in the ocean at one time.

Everest actually grows about 3/4" per year, and there's been years it's grown 8 or 9 inches. Regardless your principle is sound.

What Atheist called for the Crusades?

Ray F: As to marine species found high in the mountains. Check out plate tectonics. Take a pencil and figure out what 1/4 inch rise a year can accomplish in a million years.

I come up with 20,000+ feet. So Mount Everest which is still growing could easily have been in the ocean at one time.

You do realize that the Crusades were entirely defensive (or, at best, counter-offensive) on the part of Christendom, right? Christendom suffered centuries of military aggression and loss of territory by Islam till the Crusades were finally called to stop their advance and (to whatever extent possible) turn them back to regain lost territory.

The lecturer said something that applies here. He said most people, including scientists, ignore data that does not support their presupposition. It challenges their "reality".

This proves my point ringman. If someone circulates a draft paper and their peers have data that contradict the paper's findings, they can't ignore the data.

If it's not reviewed by their peers, they can ignore the data.

The Albigensian Crusade of Christians killing Christians was defensive?

Your argument proves what I posted. New ideas don't have peers to intelligently critic the information.

"The Crusades" refers to the wars of Christendom against Islam. If you meant some other conflict, you should have used different terminology.

Nope. The Cursades are not limited to the few well know Crusades against Islam. Most Crusades where Christians fighting Christians.

Nope. The Cursades are not limited to the few well know Crusades against Islam. Most Crusades where Christians fighting Christians.

An interesting opinion, but that suggests agnostics that challenge the Theory of Evolution have preconceived notions. I believe we can all agree that is more than unlikely.

Does this apply when that religion is a perverted version of science in which accepted terms, definitions and explanations are contorted to explain a belief?

No dinosaurs have ever been found above the K-T boundary line, nor have large mammals been found below the line.

Barring evolution, how does one explain the proliferation of mammalian species up to and including man over the last 66 million years?

Or do you deny the very existence of a period when reptiles dominated the Earth, and their extinction 66 million years ago?

Your argument proves what I posted. New ideas don't have peers to intelligently critic the information.

Nonsense.

He is correct. Call it what you will. There were many Catholic expeditions against other Christians.Not to mention the internal seek and destroy inquisitions.

Christianity morphed into a tyrannical dictatorial killing machine to stamp out any questions or dissent.

Understandable reaction from a zealot when their faith is questioned and a good example of the before-mentioned perversion of science.

If your level of willful ignorance and sanctimonious tone is what higher education provides, I’m glad I stopped when I did (assuming you’re not the undergrad of Google U. that you appear to be).

Hawkeye, with genuine respect, “Overwhelming observed evidence” is subjective, which is why it is still a theory. And while it hasn’t been disproven, it does not mean their conclusions or the theory are facts.