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My SIL just bought a Tesla plaid.... how does that engine rate?
Motor not engine

Motors smotors, whatever... it make the car go... my SIL says the Tesla outruns them all... is that true?


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Small block Chevy is easily the most prolific. Heck, they put them things in every thing!
For longevity and taking abuse, I’d go with the Chrysler slant six though.
Oil? That was for sissies! My buddy run one 2 quarts low for thousands of miles.
In 20 years of junkyard/salvage sales, we only ever sold one for replacement.
If you ran them hot for a lonnng time, you could cook them into locking up, eventually.
I don’t know of anybody else ever destroying one. Those things were tough as anvils.
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Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
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Among all the great engines already mentioned, I have to throw the AMC 390 into the mix. Under rated and overlooked IMO.
and the 401...

My 75 CJ5 with a 401AMX engine was a handful for sure. Kind of a dark horse in its day.

Lots of great engines mentioned here, but my vote would go to the Ford Cosworth DFV for most innovative and dominant in its class of its era.

Fast forward to current times and the McLaren P1 has some serious technology.

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Vega 4 banger.... better than your sister.... lol


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by irfubar
Vega 4 banger.... better than your sister.... lol
ranks right up there with the Pinto engine


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then there was the "Cosworth" Vega... my older brother gave me a wrecked one when i was 13 in the summer of 76... went back home to school in the fall, told everybody bout the cool car i had... went back up to his place at spring break and the Vega was Gon!... he say, this guy just kep stackin' $100 bills till i had to let it go... F---ing Indian Giver...

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Vega 4 banger.... better than your sister.... lol
ranks right up there with the Pinto engine
The Pinto had 3? different engine over it's life... the 1600, the 2000 and the 2300... the 2000 & 2300 were German? design and pretty good engines (carbs sucked tho), the 1600 was English and a POS as i recall...

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Vega engines I believe had aluminum cylinders, like no liners, so I was told, they weren't worth tearing apart, a junkyard replacement was like $100 back in the day, I went through a couple...


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Didn't read all of it, but saw enough Ford 300 I lines and other inlines that I didn't need to vote.

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Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
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Originally Posted by irfubar
Vega 4 banger.... better than your sister.... lol
ranks right up there with the Pinto engine
The Pinto had 3? different engine over it's life... the 1600, the 2000 and the 2300... the 2000 & 2300 were German? design and pretty good engines (carbs sucked tho), the 1600 was English and a POS as i recall...

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Vega engines I believe had aluminum cylinders, like no liners, so I was told, they weren't worth tearing apart, a junkyard replacement was like $100 back in the day, I went through a couple...

They both, especially with hindsight, were relatively poor attempts to compete with the Japanese small cars that were becoming popular at the time.

Served enough of a purpose to keep the US automakers in business I guess.


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5.3 L chevy from about 2001-2006

I had great luck with several 3.8 L V6 GMs and 2 of mine were supercharged.

In his choosing my friend had a Mitsubishi conquest tsi that had an awesome little 4 cylinder in it. He drove that thing hard.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
Vega engines I believe had aluminum cylinders, like no liners, so I was told, they weren't worth tearing apart, a junkyard replacement was like $100 back in the day, I went through a couple...
yep, cheap ass GM tried running the piston & rings on an alum bore... the late ones had iron sleeves? (at least the Monza's did) and ran fine... too little too late... it's Rep was ruined by then...

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For sheer numbers and durability, the SBC.
For HP, the 426 Hemi followed closely, maybe even swapped for the ford 427 cammer then the BBC.

I’m not a Ford guy, but that 5.0 Coyote engine is a good one. The 5.7 hemi I had in my 2019 Ram was really good too. That 5.4 bespoke Corvette engine is supposed to be as well.

Diesels the 3406 is a good one but Cat engines are a PITA when it’s really cold out. Cummins are better in cold weather environments.

My grandfather helped develop the Wasp engines for Pratt & Whitney. Hell of an engine in the Corsair and B29 plus a few others.


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Gen 3/4 small blocks. AKA- LS engines.


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What do you guys think of the plasma spray on liners companies are using on the cylinder walls of their aluminum black engines instead of iron liners?

I know find has been going it on their coyote 5.0 in the f150 since 2018 and lots of guys are complaining of excess oil use.

The new Mopar hurricane inline 6 is also a no iron sleave plasma coated aluminum.

For claims it says the 8 pounds weight on a 5.0 but I'm sure they're doing it because it's cheaper. So much for having your block bored out and resleaved I guess.

Maybe they don't want us being like Cuba. After we go full communist they don't want us keeping our cars on the road forever.

I'm not really excited about the spray on liners. Just as i became interested in the coyote they went spray on. I used to be a gm v8 guy and liked the gm 5.3 and 6.2 quite a bit until the last 3 or so years. I know several people that have had major problems with gm V8s the last few years. Lots of valve issues and other things. That's left me liking the hemi 5.7 that was in my 2019 ram even more but those are going away too.

I think they're building obsolescence into the V8s lately. Probably the green commies in the government and the esg push from investors like Blackrock.

I've got friends and family that got over 300,000 miles on 2000-2006 gm 5.3s without any engine troubles. I just don't think they build them like that anymore.

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Diesel fuel... by it's very nature... is a lubricating product... up until the moment of combustion.

Inlines (and slants) have less loss due to imbalance.

Rotaries (I know very little about them) seem to be the most efficient design of all ICE... but are damn complicated as I understand it.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
If you just want to talk about good motors, Toyota's 2.5 liter 4 cylinder motors have a *lot* to do with Toyota's reputation for reliability. Their latest variant produces 203 HP and gets 32 MPG out on the road,..and they just won't quit running.

My son recently needed a car and I steered him towards a 2018 Camry with 107,000 miles on it and a good maintenance history. The price was knocked down a bit because of the milage. But it looks and runs great.

He took off across country in it and hasn't had a problem yet.

The Nissan pickup with the 2.4 liter 4 cylinder, same thing. Wonderful engine that just won't die.

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Same with the little ohc 2.3 Ltr engines they used to put in the Ford rangers.

All those motors didn’t make enough power to hurt themselves. They run for about ever.


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