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I've been loading RL26 for my 280 AI for several years, but my 26 supply is dwindling and it's not looking like it's going to become readily available, again, anytime soon. So, I'm going to start working toward a replacement. I've got some VV N170 and I'm starting there, for similar burn rate, but I've not found any 280 AI data for it. Extrapolating from other cartridges, they seem pretty close for charge, but I'd rather be a little more sure on the pressures for a starting point to work up from. Can someone run QL with a 150 Partition and/or a 150 ELD-X?

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  Cartridge          : .280 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .284, 150, Hornady ELD-X 2826
Useable Case Capaci: 65.122 grain H2O = 4.228 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N170 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    47.50   1945    1261   19492   6900     68.4    1.879
-18.0   82    48.69   1997    1328   20705   7196     69.9    1.837
-16.0   84    49.88   2049    1399   22002   7496     71.4    1.795
-14.0   86    51.07   2103    1472   23385   7797     72.9    1.753
-12.0   88    52.25   2156    1549   24873   8100     74.4    1.713
-10.0   90    53.44   2211    1628   26463   8404     75.9    1.673
-08.0   92    54.63   2266    1710   28167   8708     77.4    1.633
-06.0   94    55.82   2322    1796   29993   9011     78.8    1.595
-04.0   96    57.00   2378    1884   31952   9312     80.2    1.557
-02.0   98    58.19   2435    1975   34035   9611     81.6    1.519
+00.0  100    59.38   2493    2070   36248   9907     83.0    1.483
+02.0  102    60.57   2551    2168   38607  10198     84.3    1.441
+04.0  104    61.76   2610    2269   41139  10484     85.6    1.397
+06.0  106    62.94   2669    2373   43857  10764     86.9    1.355
+08.0  108    64.13   2729    2481   46778  11037     88.1    1.314
+10.0  110    65.32   2790    2592   49921  11302     89.3    1.275

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: 

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 Cartridge          : .280 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler PART SP 16326
Useable Case Capaci: 67.124 grain H2O = 4.358 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N170 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    48.96   1977    1302   20139   7246     69.5    1.855
-18.0   82    50.18   2030    1372   21408   7555     71.0    1.812
-16.0   84    51.41   2083    1446   22766   7867     72.5    1.771
-14.0   86    52.63   2137    1522   24218   8181     74.1    1.730
-12.0   88    53.86   2192    1600   25774   8496     75.6    1.690
-10.0   90    55.08   2248    1682   27440   8811     77.0    1.650
-08.0   92    56.30   2304    1767   29227   9126     78.5    1.611
-06.0   94    57.53   2360    1856   31133   9440     80.0    1.573
-04.0   96    58.75   2418    1947   33153   9751     81.4    1.535
-02.0   98    59.98   2476    2041   35297  10059     82.8    1.498
+00.0  100    61.20   2534    2139   37589  10363     84.1    1.459
+02.0  102    62.42   2593    2240   40046  10663     85.4    1.415
+04.0  104    63.65   2653    2344   42681  10956     86.7    1.373
+06.0  106    64.87   2713    2451   45510  11242     88.0    1.331
+08.0  108    66.10   2774    2562   48549  11521     89.2    1.291
+10.0  110    67.32   2835    2676   51818  11790     90.3    1.252

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    61.20   2718    2460   45606  11120     92.1    1.334
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    61.20   2322    1796   30033   9226     73.7    1.585
  

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Compared to R 26.

Code
 Cartridge          : .280 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler PART SP 16326
Useable Case Capaci: 67.124 grain H2O = 4.358 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    53.21   2450    1999   29004  10870     93.8    1.587
-18.0   82    54.54   2518    2112   31122  11212     95.1    1.545
-16.0   84    55.87   2586    2228   33408  11530     96.3    1.504
-14.0   86    57.20   2654    2347   35879  11822     97.4    1.464
-12.0   88    58.53   2723    2469   38552  12086     98.3    1.418
-10.0   90    59.86   2791    2594   41446  12318     99.0    1.370
-08.0   92    61.19   2858    2721   44584  12518     99.5    1.324
-06.0   94    62.52   2925    2850   47988  12682     99.8    1.279
-04.0   96    63.85   2992    2982   51687  12810    100.0    1.237
-02.0   98    65.18   3058    3115   55712  12906    100.0    1.195  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    66.51   3124    3250   60095  12996    100.0    1.155  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    67.84   3188    3386   64864  13081    100.0    1.117  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    69.17   3253    3524   70017  13160    100.0    1.080  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    70.50   3317    3664   75611  13235    100.0    1.044  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    71.83   3380    3806   81696  13303    100.0    1.010  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    73.16   3444    3950   88327  13366    100.0    0.977  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    66.51   3263    3547   75841  12437    100.0    1.055  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    66.51   2907    2816   46360  13351     97.6    1.289
  

Code
 Cartridge          : .280 Ack Imp
Bullet             : .284, 150, Hornady ECX 28214
Useable Case Capaci: 65.233 grain H2O = 4.236 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    51.72   2411    1937   28005  10464     92.8    1.606
-18.0   82    53.01   2479    2046   30027  10808     94.2    1.564
-16.0   84    54.31   2546    2159   32209  11130     95.5    1.523
-14.0   86    55.60   2614    2276   34565  11429     96.7    1.482
-12.0   88    56.89   2682    2395   37112  11701     97.7    1.442
-10.0   90    58.19   2749    2518   39869  11945     98.5    1.393
-08.0   92    59.48   2817    2643   42856  12157     99.1    1.346
-06.0   94    60.77   2884    2770   46094  12337     99.6    1.301
-04.0   96    62.06   2951    2900   49609  12483     99.9    1.258
-02.0   98    63.36   3017    3032   53433  12592    100.0    1.216
+00.0  100    64.65   3083    3165   57595  12677    100.0    1.175  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    65.94   3147    3300   62136  12757    100.0    1.136  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0  104    67.24   3212    3436   67096  12833    100.0    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    68.53   3276    3574   72479  12903    100.0    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    69.82   3339    3714   78331  12967    100.0    1.027  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    71.12   3403    3857   84710  13026    100.0    0.993  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    64.65   3227    3468   72978  12109    100.0    1.072  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    64.65   2861    2726   44609  12913     96.8    1.311
  

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Much appreciated, Mick! cool

I knew the energy for weight comparison wouldn’t be favorable, but damn! That’s an even more substantial difference than I’d anticipated. I’ll load a few, anyway, see how close the predicted velo is to my rifle.

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Let me know, I'll be interested in your results.

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Originally Posted by MickinColo
Let me know, I'll be interested in your results.

Will do, no problem. Thanks again.


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