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This may have been covered before, but it sure would be nice to have some sort of a reference. I am making this thread as a quick reference for myself and others that have had issues figuring out what mount to use on your model 70 rifle. This is not an extensive list. Just one with part numbers of parts I've used over the years and I know they all work well.
Standard and featherweight pre 64 model 70's requiring bases with the .860" (".865" according to Rule) hole spacings: 1. Leupold dual dovetail matte finish: Part # 50046 2. Leupold dual dovetail gloss finish: Part # 50045 3. Leupold PRW mount/base matte finish: Part # 49838 4. Leupold dual dovetail long rear mount standard front: Part # 40506 5. Leupold dual dovetail silver finish: Part # 57286 6. Talley lightweights (medium): Part # 940702 7. Weaver front base: #46 8. Weaver rear base: #47 9. Weaver front and rear set (matte): Part # 48468 10. Warne Maxima front and rear matte: Part# M902/924M 11. Talley steel bases: Part # 252702 12. Conetrol bases: Part # 70 series (70-1, 70H2, 70G2, 70L2, 70C2, 70F2) Note: These bases work on post 64 model 70's as well, as long as they have the typical .860" hole spacings (front and rear the same spacing). This does not include the Express model or WSSM.
Pre 64 model 70 H&H models with factory drilled and tapped receiver requiring .435" spacing on rear mount. These may also fit the target model or national match model with .435" (.425" according to Rule) rear hole spacing and clip slot: 1. Leupold QRW: Part # 49836 2. Talley lightweight lows: Part # 930704 3. Warne Maxima matte finish: Part # M902/818M 4. Leupold "detachable accuracy mounts" (matte): Part # 50062 5. Talley steel bases matte finish: Part # 252704 Keep in mind, these do not fit post 64 rifles. They require a rear mount that has a different hole spacing (.330").
These are just some of the part #'s I have used. Except for the Conetrols, I am new to that mounting system. They look great and seem to be solid. The same can be said for S&K. If you can find either of these sets for under $200.00, you are doing well. With this being said, my suggestion is to generally use the DD's on the standard and fwt rifles and weaver style on the H&H magnums. Hopefully this is useful to some here.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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This info just helped me with a '51 .300 H&H, thank you. Now, to find a scope!
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A 300H&H would be damn nice. I have a couple H&H action rifles as well. I don't know what mounts you got. Assuming weaver style, as those work great on these rifles. I started a thread last year on a rifle I put some Warne mounts on. I did that because I was a little irritated that the mount extended out over the front of the receiver: I ended up cutting that base and then rebluing it. Here's the thread: Mounts for pre 64 model 70 H&H rifles
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've got Weaver bases and Burris Zee mediums, but have lows on order. I originally had all Leupold mounts and rings on my other Post 64's, but am slowly replacing all with Weaver style because of eye relief along with looks. Love the Warne customization.
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Thanks Fuelman, it was pretty easy to do and looks much better now. I really like Weaver style mounts on the H&H actions, along with Burris Zee rings or Leupold PRW's. On the standard pre 64's, I run DD's every chance I can get. Good luck with your scope search.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've got Weaver bases and Burris Zee mediums, but have lows on order. I originally had all Leupold mounts and rings on my other Post 64's, but am slowly replacing all with Weaver style because of eye relief along with looks. Love the Warne customization. Fuelman, I don't think I posted a picture of the PRW's in that link I posted of the other thread I started, but that is what I used on my 375H&H that I put in a Mcmillan swirly stock: They require no mods and work great. They are steel and are very solid, as are the PRW/QRW rings. I have that set up on my H&H receiver 338wm semi custom now with a Zeiss conquest on top. Work great! Considering you like Leupold mounts and rings, you could always go that route too..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Any chance we can get this made into a sticky?? Super helpful info here!
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Front base doesn't bother me.
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Front base doesn't bother me. Looks like crap to me.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Front base doesn't bother me. That’s a 90 second fix.
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Conetrol bases & Gentry 30mm rings. I think I like this set up.
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S&K Clean and classy.
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Tough crowd here.Is this better? AK..it took 180 seconds
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Tough crowd here.Is this better? AK..it took 180 seconds Much! 👍👍
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@bsa1917hunter or anyone else that might know the answer to this question. I was trying to install Leupold scope bases on a custom pre-64 Model 70 I bought a few months back. The new gun is a 416 Remington, with a serial number 446xx. I had a 1-6 VX6HD on my pre64 in 375 H&H, with Weaver Rings. My plan was to move the 1-6 VX6HD and rings to the 416, and I had bought a new VX6HD 2-12 I was going to put on the 375, with new weaver rings.
So my conundrum. I bought the same set of bases I typically buy for my model 70's (Leupold 49838). They don't fit the 416 though. When I look at the package for the scope bases, it says "Pre 64 Win Model 70 Serial # Above 66,360". I'll be honest, I never noticed that disclaimer on the mounts in the past, so I must have not used them on any of my earlier model 70's.
My hope is to not buy new rings for the 1-6 VXHD I want to mount, so I'm hoping for a weaver style base. This is probably not accurate to hundredth of an inch, but my rough measurement shows the front base has a hole spacing of 7/8", which I believe to be pretty standard. But the rear base hole spacing is only 3/8".
Any recommendations on a weaver style mount that would fit my gun?
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Front base doesn't bother me. That’s a 90 second fix. Those levers are on the wrong side of the gun
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S&K Clean and classy. Looks damn good.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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