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Buck like that will make a feller stiffen up! 😃 Congrats David
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“How sweet it is!!” Jackie Gleason Awesome kill!
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Yessir, that's a dandy buck for sure. Congratulations, on this one!
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Is there any difference in performance on deer in a 308 vs 30/06 with a 155g Scenar L and the std 155 Scenar?
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Probably not that the deer would notice.
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Nice buck David! Those 155's work nice out of the 308.
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Thanks! As to the difference in the 155's from a .308 or an '06 I can't tell any difference on game
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Anyone loading the 155 over CFE223 in a 308? How’s that working out?
I have a LOT of CFE223.
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Anyone loading the 155 over CFE223 in a 308? How’s that working out?
I have a LOT of CFE223. Would expect that to be a compatible powder, and shoot very accurately. It has been quite temperature sensitive in the applications I have used it in though. A lot of guys use Varget in the .308 with the 155 Scenar both for accuracy and temp resistance.
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I have most recently tested in my 308’s with preferred velocity of 2800+:
Varget - accurate but too slow to suit me without running a compressed charge. No go. However, with a compressed charge of 48.5 gr, it shoots one ragged hole at 2885 fps.
CFE223 - 1 moa, which is tolerable but not optimum for my liking.
TAC - 1/2 moa with acceptable velocity @ 2820 fps. Go to hunting load.
All with original 155 Scenar in Lapua brass, 22” barrel. All of theses powders are reliably temp stable.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Reloder- Thanks for that info.
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I have most recently tested in my 308’s with preferred velocity of 2800+:
Varget - accurate but too slow to suit me without running a compressed charge. No go. However, with a compressed charge of 48.5 gr, it shoots one ragged hole at 2885 fps.
CFE223 - 1 moa, which is tolerable but not optimum for my liking.
TAC - 1/2 moa with acceptable velocity @ 2820 fps. Go to hunting load.
All with original 155 Scenar in Lapua brass, 22” barrel. All of theses powders are reliably temp stable. So what's your objection to using a compressed load? There are many powder/bullet companies that list compressed loads. Just curious.
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I have most recently tested in my 308’s with preferred velocity of 2800+:
Varget - accurate but too slow to suit me without running a compressed charge. No go. However, with a compressed charge of 48.5 gr, it shoots one ragged hole at 2885 fps.
CFE223 - 1 moa, which is tolerable but not optimum for my liking.
TAC - 1/2 moa with acceptable velocity @ 2820 fps. Go to hunting load.
All with original 155 Scenar in Lapua brass, 22” barrel. All of theses powders are reliably temp stable. CFE 223 isn't temp stable. 48.5 grains of Varget is A LOT of powder in a 308 with 155s. Most guys run more like 46.
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CFE 223 isn't temp stable. 48.5 grains of Varget is A LOT of powder in a 308 with 155s. Most guys run more like 46. Yep on both of those.
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I run 45.5 of varget with the 155 Scenar in my 308
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So what's your objection to using a compressed load? There are many powder/bullet companies that list compressed loads. Just curious. I ran that Varget load for 3 seasons. Carried a cleaning rod to knock the bullet out of the barrel when it stuck in the rifling, more often than not, & case ejection dumped the powder in the magazine/action. I could not seat the bullet any deeper and it would push out during storage just enough to stick in the rifling. I finally could/would not tolerate it any longer. 48.5 grains of Varget is A LOT of powder in a 308 with 155s. Most guys run more like 46. Sure do not disagree with you at all. My gun did not like any of the Varget powder charges save the 48.5. It was SO accurate with that load too. I hated to cease my consideration of it, but it was necessary. One too many stuck bullets shut one of my most promising hunts down before it got started. I ran 10 charge weight combinations up to 48.5. It shot about 1.25" up to the 48.5 where it shot one ragged hole. I tolerated it until I couldn't.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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I have most recently tested in my 308’s with preferred velocity of 2800+:
Varget - accurate but too slow to suit me without running a compressed charge. No go. However, with a compressed charge of 48.5 gr, it shoots one ragged hole at 2885 fps.
CFE223 - 1 moa, which is tolerable but not optimum for my liking.
TAC - 1/2 moa with acceptable velocity @ 2820 fps. Go to hunting load.
All with original 155 Scenar in Lapua brass, 22” barrel. All of theses powders are reliably temp stable. CFE 223 isn't temp stable. 48.5 grains of Varget is A LOT of powder in a 308 with 155s. Most guys run more like 46. In retrospect, I cannot aver that CFE223 is temp stable. I did not use enough of it to confirm anything except it would not shoot under an inch for me. While to some that may be acceptable, it is not for me, especially in a 308. So, I did not mean to misrepresent.
Last edited by Reloder28; 12/21/23.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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