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People need to just shoot them without hesitation and leave them there for the .gov's to find. Oh, don't take your cellphone , leave it at home.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS Fo'Sho' So Chubby, in 30 years how many MT wolves have you shot? Easier question, how many have you even seen? Hint- everyone knows the answer.
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COLORADO - Today, Colorado Parks and Wildlife (CPW) experts completed capture work in Oregon, finishing their work in the state. As a result of the CPW team’s work in Oregon, the agency released a total of 10 gray wolves onto state-owned public land in Summit and Grand counties, continuing the agency’s efforts to create a permanent, self-sustaining gray wolf population in Colorado. This total completes the agreement with Oregon for the December 2023 - March 2024 capture season to provide up to 10 wolves to Colorado. CPW will continue working to source additional animals until up to 15 wolves have been reintroduced in Colorado by mid-March 2024. CPWSo apparently, CO has worn out it's welcome in OR and will source the other five wolves from somewhere else. How about Russia? They've got pretty Bad Ass wolves, right?
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Anything to reduce the People's hunting opportunities and food supply. If you do that, make sure you take your cell phone with you and have it turned on, makes it easier for the Feds to track you. Having been in the area of an illegal kill with no other evidence is not enough for a conviction. This is one subject I know a lot about. A bullet recovery is almost impossible. What will convict you is talking about it. Do not tell anyone. Do not dare even begin to answer questions. An unscrupulous officer can say you said things you did not. The idiot up in Ashton Idaho that shot the mama grizzly would have been home free if he had just refused to talk. To begin with all they had was a cell phone location but he blabbed.
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations.
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help.
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help. Do tell about your vast experience with wolves in Louisiana .
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help. Do tell about your vast experience with wolves in Louisiana . We've been shooting the prairie wolf (coyotes) and wild hogs for decades down here. Same principle applies to any intelligent species that has litters of young. The early 1900s wolf eradication program is instructive. It took an all out effort. There is plenty of information available.
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help. Do tell about your vast experience with wolves in Louisiana . There are no wolves in LA. Maybe they know more than you about wolves?
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help. Do tell about your vast experience with wolves in Louisiana . Post us some pics of you doing your thing in the Great Outdoors. On second thought, we don't want pics of your favorite sport which is sucking lieberal cork, Calledumb.
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Nothing good has come this practice, anywhere it has been done. In Alaska a pack of wolves( not introduced) kill an adult moose every week of the year so, one pack , one moose per week =52 moose per year. Times god only knows how many packs their are in Alaska. Not good, no matter how you look at it. Plus, wolves kill anything below them on the food chain with complete impunity, End of story. Colorado will regret that decision. Game populations will be reduced. No two ways about it. The fish cops will be all over it and what will happen to the ranchers when they lose live stock Like crazy. The state and feds will have to reimburse them, over and over again. Of course it will be a difficult process.
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help. Do tell about your vast experience with wolves in Louisiana . We've been shooting the prairie wolf (coyotes) and wild hogs for decades down here. Same principle applies to any intelligent species that has litters of young. The early 1900s wolf eradication program is instructive. It took an all out effort. There is plenty of information available. So the answer is no. No experience with wolves. Never seen a wolf alive or dead. Never hunted a wolf. Never seen a wolf kill. Got it. BTW comparing a wolf to a urban coyote or any coyote for that matter is rather dumb.
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I read somewhere that sugar free peanut butter kills 'em deader'n dirt , dogs too? It think its an artificial sweetener that starts with X? Anyway there's an investigation (ha ha ha ha) going on in the PNW having to do with poisoned wolves being found.
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This genie aint going back in the bottle, soon as those paws hit the dirt it was checkmate.
Where they got set free aint no reception for anything short of Garmin. Just over the hill from me. Can the feds ping you in those areas?? Asking for a friend...
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Sucks…. Especially for the very few moose left around Walden in the North Park drainage….. glad I’ve been able to see some nice bulls in the wild over the years.
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[/spoiler]Hastings]. What will convict you is talking about it. Do not tell anyone. Do not dare even begin to answer questions. An unscrupulous officer can say you said things you did not. Rule 1:NEVER talk to the police. EVER especially if you’re innocent.
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Another fringe-issue to this story is the fact that they took the 10 wolves from Oregon. Oregon has a wolf problem without any reintroduction needed. Oregon's wolves are migrants from Idaho. ODFW stated many years ago that a wolf hunting season would be considered once the state had 2 breeding pair. There's 2 known breeding pairs in Jackson County alone, which is located in the southwest part of the state bordering California. Oregon currently has 16 breeding pairs and more than 150 wolves. California has no wolf population plan put into place even though there are currently over 30 wolves in that state. Is this Colorado implantation the wolf population that will bridge the Yellowstone packs with these packs, thus completing the potential for wolf populations from border to border both east and west of the Rocky Mountains?
For those who think we can simply go out and shoot them before they become a bigger problem as the population grows, that's not even imaginable. Idaho has a wolf season with an annual quota. The quota hasn't been met yet. The biggest fallacy is the fact that state and federal officials think they can actually manage wolf populations. You are right, shooting them will not stop the wolves from increasing their numbers. It would take seriously skilled trappers and poison. Introducing sarcoptic mange, distemper, and parvo would help. Do tell about your vast experience with wolves in Louisiana . We've been shooting the prairie wolf (coyotes) and wild hogs for decades down here. Same principle applies to any intelligent species that has litters of young. The early 1900s wolf eradication program is instructive. It took an all out effort. There is plenty of information available. So the answer is no. No experience with wolves. Never seen a wolf alive or dead. Never hunted a wolf. Never seen a wolf kill. Got it. BTW comparing a wolf to a urban coyote or any coyote for that matter is rather dumb. Exterminating a species of highly intelligent predators that have a high rate of reproduction isn't rocket science. It requires a multi pronged approach and with wolves out west it was done once before without the technologies available we now have. You are correct in saying I have no gray wolf control experience but I do spend a good bit of every year in the U.S. NW and I have only seen wolves twice and only seen a wolf kill once. So yes, my experience with gray wolves is limited but I do know that shooting a few will not provide any meaningful control of any species that produces litters of young every year. Do you know anything about predator control?
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