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Best to use a chamber insert.
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Just changing the headspace can change accuracy. so , 38 in 357 or 40sw in 10mm are all inaccurate? Big difference in straight wall vs tapered bottleneck cartridges.
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LOL, how accurate is the 30-06? I have a Serengeti chambered 30-06 that can certainly hold own in a match. I don't mean 30-06 in general, I mean the one he's gonna shoot .308 rounds in. If he has a good load for an accurate 06 it's doubtful that a random .308 round would shoot as accurately for that rifle.
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The key word in that sentence is CAN. I shoot 45 Colt "cowboy" out of my 454 Casull, and even when I load the Casull cases with the same load as the Colt, the POI changes.
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The key word in that sentence is CAN. I shoot 45 Colt "cowboy" out of my 454 Casull, and even when I load the Casull cases with the same load as the Colt, the POI changes. Exactly. Due to the case volume and pressure. The pressure spikes would be all over the place from shot to shot shooting cartridges in a chamber that it doesn’t correctly fit. I have no idea how much accuracy would suffer but there’s no way that it could improve.
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LOL, how accurate is the 30-06? Has probably won more HP matches than all the others combined!
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LOL, how accurate is the 30-06? Has probably won more HP matches than all the others combined! Have you ever read a thread before posting? Or do you enjoy coming off as stupid?
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Just changing the headspace can change accuracy. so , 38 in 357 or 40sw in 10mm are all inaccurate? How much difference in headspace is there between a 38 and 357?
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Just changing the headspace can change accuracy. so , 38 in 357 or 40sw in 10mm are all inaccurate? Big difference in straight wall vs tapered bottleneck cartridges. Not to mention headspacing on the shoulder, rim and case mouth for the cartridges mentioned. It appears to me from the questions being asked, the OP doesn't understand the concept.
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Just changing the headspace can change accuracy. so , 38 in 357 or 40sw in 10mm are all inaccurate? How much difference in headspace is there between a 38 and 357? It ain’t upwards of half an inch😳 and they don’t have shoulders. I think persiandog likes to troll every now and again.
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Looking at the video provided I think, if nothing else, it gives us a pretty good idea of how badly accuracy can suffer when a bullet doesn't enter the throat/rifling in a bore-concentric attitude.
I don't think there's any great danger involved in doing this in a bolt action rifle, but performance would be lackluster to say the least. Certainly the chamber would get pretty fouled up pretty fast.
I think this fall squarely in the category of, "Yes it can be done, but why?"
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My friend was injured pretty bad after accidentally putting a 308 in IIRC a 270wby. The gun blew up tearing up his face and putting shrapnel in his face and neck. It blacked both his eyes and they were swollen to where he couldn't see. Luckily someone showed up at the range soon after to take him to the ER.
He had two rifles he was sighting in and just grabbed a round from the wrong box. I try to remember only 1 rifle and it's ammo only on the bench at a time.
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Why ? I would think in a matter of life and death , not a hunting emergency But if push came to shove and it’s all I had , dam right I would Kenneth
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aren't you from the ozarks or Kalamazoo
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emergency ! you took the 308 instead of 30-06 ammo and a huge elk is at 100yard. That's not an emergency
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Coming next: a 30/06 fired thru a four hunnerd10 shotgun
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i know shooting 308 out of 30-06 is possible , but how about accuracy ?
assuming two identical rifles 308 and 30-06 , does 308 out of 30-06 is as accurate as on a 308 rifle? You know it? Really? Try it. Please film it. Have your family post the video.
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Claw, controlled round feed, blade ejector? 98. Not a 70!
You might be fine.
If the case is held to the bolt, the pin will reliably hit hard enough for ignition. The case head should be supported enough to not fail. The shoulder and neck should blow out to at least partially seal. Some has would probably escape.
Lotta might, shoulds, likelys, there. Too many for me to be betting hands, eyes, life, Against 55,000psi inches away.
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