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I think that it was Kaywoodie who recommended the book “Born Fighting; How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by Jim Webb.

I’m half way through the book and it’s well worth the read. If you are from Scots-Irish stock, enjoy the history of our national development or simply want to be encouraged by a mentality that will not bend this book is for you.

If you have these roots but find that you have culturally been taught to sit down when you pizz this book may start you on the journey back to manhood.

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Originally Posted by IZH27
I think that it was Kaywoodie who recommended the book “Born Fighting; How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by Jim Webb.

I’m half way through the book and it’s well worth the read. If you are from Scots-Irish stock, enjoy the history of our national development or simply want to be encouraged by a mentality that will not bend this book is for you.

If you have these roots but find that you have culturally been taught to sit down when you pizz this book may start you on the journey back to manhood.


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Those Irish will vote for Us for the Next Two Hundred Years ..

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Those Irish will vote for Us for the Next Two Hundred Years ..

Correct Me if I’m Wrong about LBJ ..

I believe that's the Norwegian-Irish.

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Originally Posted by gunzo
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I think that it was Kaywoodie who recommended the book “Born Fighting; How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by Jim Webb.

I’m half way through the book and it’s well worth the read. If you are from Scots-Irish stock, enjoy the history of our national development or simply want to be encouraged by a mentality that will not bend this book is for you.

If you have these roots but find that you have culturally been taught to sit down when you pizz this book may start you on the journey back to manhood.


A group singled out & discriminated against as most. Thinking the nation owes us reparations.

The book has nothing at all to do with that kind of thinking.

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You guys must be sitters.

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Originally Posted by akrange
Those Irish will vote for Us for the Next Two Hundred Years ..

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A common error among Americans to put Irish and Scots-Irish in the same category. Oil and water. Papist and Prod. Harp vs. Union Jack.

For a book on the Scots-Irish before they were planted in Ulster I highly recommend The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers by George McDonald Fraser. Born fighting? Heck their sperms were prob’ly fighting on the trip to the uterus.


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Those Irish will vote for Us for the Next Two Hundred Years ..

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I believe that's the Norwegian-Irish.

LOL. Damn Norwegians. 😜


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Those Irish will vote for Us for the Next Two Hundred Years ..

Correct Me if I’m Wrong about LBJ ..

A common error among Americans to put Irish and Scots-Irish in the same category. Oil and water. Papist and Prod. Harp vs. Union Jack.

For a book on the Scots-Irish before they were planted in Ulster I highly recommend The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers by George McDonald Fraser. Born fighting? Heck their sperms were prob’ly fighting on the trip to the uterus.


And then there are the border Irish.


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Originally Posted by IZH27
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I think that it was Kaywoodie who recommended the book “Born Fighting; How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by Jim Webb.

I’m half way through the book and it’s well worth the read. If you are from Scots-Irish stock, enjoy the history of our national development or simply want to be encouraged by a mentality that will not bend this book is for you.

If you have these roots but find that you have culturally been taught to sit down when you pizz this book may start you on the journey back to manhood.


A group singled out & discriminated against as most. Thinking the nation owes us reparations.

The book has nothing at all to do with that kind of thinking.

Nope, not at all. I read this book years ago and it’s a great read. It’s all about the stubborn determination of a group of people who came from nothing and helped build a nation.

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funny part is when they asked me about blood pressure issues if I got the fight or flight instinct.. that didn't have to ask me very long which one I had they checked the box. . peoples nowadays are so [bleep] stupid.. my granddaughter gets a hint for me at least the two oldest ones I do not take nor put up with much BS

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Well, all I have to go on is from family searches that go back to before the Mayflower. A Scotsman married an Irish or vice versa. They sailed her & had kids.
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I think that it was Kaywoodie who recommended the book “Born Fighting; How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by Jim Webb.

I’m half way through the book and it’s well worth the read. If you are from Scots-Irish stock, enjoy the history of our national development or simply want to be encouraged by a mentality that will not bend this book is for you.

If you have these roots but find that you have culturally been taught to sit down when you pizz this book may start you on the journey back to manhood.


A group singled out & discriminated against as most. Thinking the nation owes us reparations.

The book has nothing at all to do with that kind of thinking.

Nope, not at all. I read this book years ago and it’s a great read. It’s all about the stubborn determination of a group of people who came from nothing and helped build a nation.

That's good to know as my Scotts/Irish forefathers came here pre 1776. My family tree should have me rich & famous, But this clan slipped away some how.

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Finally finished the book. It seems that slow reads are more my way lately.

I highly recommend this book. Mr Webb goes a long way into describing the common thread of this great nation, that which makes us what we are at heart.

There is encouragement to be found in what he writes, even in days that seem to be a bit darker than those past.

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One would think that our Scots-Irish roots would motivate us to get off our azz and stop the destruction of our Nation.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
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I think that it was Kaywoodie who recommended the book “Born Fighting; How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by Jim Webb.

I’m half way through the book and it’s well worth the read. If you are from Scots-Irish stock, enjoy the history of our national development or simply want to be encouraged by a mentality that will not bend this book is for you.

If you have these roots but find that you have culturally been taught to sit down when you pizz this book may start you on the journey back to manhood.


A group singled out & discriminated against as most. Thinking the nation owes us reparations.

The book has nothing at all to do with that kind of thinking.

Nope, not at all. I read this book years ago and it’s a great read. It’s all about the stubborn determination of a group of people who came from nothing and helped build a nation.


Sounds interesting, thanks for the recommendation.



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One would think that our Scots-Irish roots would motivate us to get off our azz and stop the destruction of our Nation.

Agreed. I can’t do justice to what he brings out in the book. It’s pretty much bred into us to persevere but live on the margins independently and defiantly. That is both a blessing and a curse. However, that mentality is that which is the common thread.

He unpacks the message well.

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