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help me decide on a 22 Bolt action to buy $1000 max....hopefully my last really good 22 new or very good used sporter style/weight but accurate enough for gopher head shots or informal silhouette at the club classy classic accurate to hang onto. No synthetic stocks for this one something unique/interesting about it....T-bolt? mannlicher? set triggers? honestly havent been overly impressed with last couple Anshutz i had Any real first hand experience with new T-bolts? ive heard not great things about their triggers
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CZ457 LUX sounds like it would fit the bill. Or maybe an American if you don't fancy the iron sites.
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CZ457 Premium is your huckleberry. An absolutely well built and accurate .22
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absolutely a candidate, my everyday pickup gun is a CZ 223 carbine, LOVE the center-fire push forward set trigger and my Dad has an old Brno 22 hes shot truckloads of vermin with
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Those CZ457’s are nice rifles. That’s what I would have bought, if a Winchester 52 wouldn’t have fallen in my lap.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Picked up a CZ 457 Varmint today. The choice is what model 457 best suits your needs??
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Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.
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Picked up a CZ 457 Varmint today. The choice is what model 457 best suits your needs?? That one is pretty thick. I believe the op is looking for the trimmer sporter model. I've had my eye on one of the lighter sporter models myself. The CZ457 American. They are beautiful rifles. I've probably bought one about 3 or 4 times now. Last time (2 times now, at 2 different shops) my girlfriend was with me, when I was looking at one, or I would have probably bought one. I believe they were $600.00 new at a shop near by, and another at a shop 170 miles away. The wood was awesome on both rifles. Nice grain, and nice dark wood, with some great checkering. I've seen these same rifles for sale on gunsinternational for $518.00.. CZ American 22lr $518.00The funny/not so funny thing is I actually bought a set of rings for a CZ a month ago, because I knew I'd be buying one pretty soon.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I was just going to mention the 457 American, I personally like the lines better than the LUX, but that is just me.
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I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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The funny/not so funny thing is I actually bought a set of rings for a CZ a month ago, because I knew I'd be buying one pretty soon. That is funny. I have always found the above pictured varmint model most appealing. I thought the Steyr rimfires that came out in a run a few years back were really nice looking. I have no idea how they shot. I'll probably buy one if they do another run for the US. If they were accurate, they'd seem to fit the bill for the OP.
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Walnut and blued?
New- CZ457 in whichever configuration you prefer. I began with a Varmint MTR, then got tired of the weight and bulk and found a Premium barrel and stock on GB for $400, then sold the MTR parts locally for $400. I think the Premium barrel is just as accurate as the MTR was; accurate enough anyway. To mount most scopes, the ones with irons require you to remove the leaf from the rear as ingwe did. I went with an old Burris Mini 6x AO, which is plenty of scope for my use and very light.
Used- Not sure what you can find in this crazy market for a grand. I’ve owned and futzed around with several 77/22s, but the CZs seem to outshoot them out of the box without shimming bolt-heads, bedding, or fooling with triggers. I do regret letting a SS RSI go, because it was very cute and a rare bird, just not a great shooter. You might get lucky and find a used Annie or Sako, but it will take some searching and luck. CZs are everywhere. Older CZs are great shooters too, but for my taste require replacing the trigger guard with a nicer one like a DIP. The 457 is fine as-is, and the triggers are better as-is too.
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The funny/not so funny thing is I actually bought a set of rings for a CZ a month ago, because I knew I'd be buying one pretty soon. That is funny. I have always found the above pictured varmint model most appealing. I thought the Steyr rimfires that came out in a run a few years back were really nice looking. I have no idea how they shot. I'll probably buy one if they do another run for the US. If they were accurate, they'd seem to fit the bill for the OP. Those do look good if you favor the Yurrupean vibe. Oughta shoot too, but the reviews I saw used small samplings of mostly mediocre ammo, so essentially were useless. One that is definitely off my list is the new Springfield made in Turkey. Nice wood, but every review I’ve seen has shown pretty crappy accuracy. Hell, one of ‘em at least should’ve done better, even by accident.
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From the top, 452, 455, 457
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My CZ 452 was a rather good shooter for a "sporter" style rifle. I'd find one used if I wanted to go back to wood and blued.
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Hands down the CZ 452,455 or 457. Take the rest of your money and get some good glass. JMOP
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Varmint options are a bit long and heavy for me, I've got a 10lb martini that shoots little bitty bug groups but isn't terribly mobile! Anyone shooting the new CZ Royale not sure what I think about the relatively long fore-end
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Timney now makes one, but the Jard beats it in pull weight reduction.
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Remington 541-s. Most are listed over 1k but many sell for just under.
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Those do look good if you favor the Yurrupean vibe. Oughta shoot too, but the reviews I saw used small samplings of mostly mediocre ammo, so essentially were useless. Oddly enough my 457 Premium likes some mediocre ammo! American Eagle by Federal, of all things...
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