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Some states may have more restrictions in the state statute. Like how machine guns are legal in MN, but only if they are C&R. True, but crittr used the term anyone and that's not the case for everyone. And I'd be surprised if it's the case in his state. My bad, my son had to be 21 before I could add him on to my trust.
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Thanks, crittr. Is that something in Utah trust law, not necessarily specific to the suppressor?
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Per my NFA dealer kids can be added as a beneficiary at any age but can’t be added as a trustee until 18 (or hell, maybe it was 21?). If your beneficiary is a minor, a trustee would keep possession until they were old enough.
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Per my NFA dealer kids can be added as a beneficiary at any age but can’t be added as a trustee until 18 (or hell, maybe it was 21?). If your beneficiary is a minor, a trustee would keep possession until they were old enough. That's how mine was done. Beneficiary as a minor and now a co-trustee.
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If you want to see the future, look north to Canada. Unless you are the legally registered owner of a firearm, you CANNOT shoot it. I can take my shotguns to Canada for tournaments, but it's illegal for somebody to "try it out" even with me standing adjacent to them.
Ditto for purchasing ammo - you cannot buy a caliber/gauge unless your card indicates same ownership. Must be registered to buy ammo? Yes in Kanada. Yes in Kommifornia (and other places).
Kanada law coming to Amerika soon.
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Thanks, crittr. Is that something in Utah trust law, not necessarily specific to the suppressor? It was a suppressor specific trust that was done. Not sure if it is Utah specific or not, might have to give my attorney a call to find out.
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Just a couple of thoughts after reading some of this...
1. "grey area" is just a place you don't want to be these days if you are wise.
2. follow the "money"
3. phone cameras and recorders have turned most "social" situations risky legal "minefields"
4. [bleep] always runs downhill to the name on the "dotted line"/deepest pockets (see #1!)
5. consider the "[bleep] show" we live in as we speak... certain things, at least, are definitely unraveling
Suppressors certainly look interesting for certain applications but not worth the risk, cost, and "dance" with the legal system for me. Ear plugs and muffs have worked just fine when utilized.
This is still America I think, so for now anyway, to each his own.
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Just a couple of thoughts after reading some of this...
This is still America Amerika I think, so for now anyway, to each his own. Fixed it
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The fact that we have to jump through these hoops at all is bullshit. I agree. It is total bull schidt. One of my buddies is a SWAT member. He lets me shoot his suppressed rifles all the time. He actually requests that I do testing with them, to prove their accuracy. However, he is there with me. Is that legal, or not? I do agree, we live in America where we used to have freedoms. It's just stupid where it's going, especially with this current administration.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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If you want to see the future, look north to Canada. Unless you are the legally registered owner of a firearm, you CANNOT shoot it. I can take my shotguns to Canada for tournaments, but it's illegal for somebody to "try it out" even with me standing adjacent to them.
Ditto for purchasing ammo - you cannot buy a caliber/gauge unless your card indicates same ownership. Must be registered to buy ammo? Yes in Kanada. Yes in Kommifornia (and other places).
Kanada law coming to Amerika soon. Fu ck that!!! FJB. I'm assuming you are not voting trump?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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If you want to see the future, look north to Canada. Unless you are the legally registered owner of a firearm, you CANNOT shoot it. I can take my shotguns to Canada for tournaments, but it's illegal for somebody to "try it out" even with me standing adjacent to them.
Ditto for purchasing ammo - you cannot buy a caliber/gauge unless your card indicates same ownership. Must be registered to buy ammo? Yes in Kanada. Yes in Kommifornia (and other places).
Kanada law coming to Amerika soon. Fu ck that!!! FJB. I'm assuming you are not voting trump? BSA, was only reporting observations. This thread about suppressor laws demonstrates how eerily close we are to Kanadian dictats. Nowhere did I indicate those were my preferences. FJB indeed! Only a fool would vote for Brandon.
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If you want to see the future, look north to Canada. Unless you are the legally registered owner of a firearm, you CANNOT shoot it. I can take my shotguns to Canada for tournaments, but it's illegal for somebody to "try it out" even with me standing adjacent to them.
Ditto for purchasing ammo - you cannot buy a caliber/gauge unless your card indicates same ownership. Must be registered to buy ammo? Yes in Kanada. Yes in Kommifornia (and other places).
Kanada law coming to Amerika soon. Fu ck that!!! FJB. I'm assuming you are not voting trump? Mr. Passive Aggressive - how in the gawd's creation did you interpret this gentleman to be a lefty?
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Just a couple of thoughts after reading some of this...
1. "grey area" is just a place you don't want to be these days if you are wise.
2. follow the "money"
3. phone cameras and recorders have turned most "social" situations risky legal "minefields"
4. [bleep] always runs downhill to the name on the "dotted line"/deepest pockets (see #1!)
5. consider the "[bleep] show" we live in as we speak... certain things, at least, are definitely unraveling
Suppressors certainly look interesting for certain applications but not worth the risk, cost, and "dance" with the legal system for me. Ear plugs and muffs have worked just fine when utilized.
This is still America I think, so for now anyway, to each his own. I'm already on "the list" (so are you) --- may as well have the toys to go with.
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^^^^He is not blowing smoke on that. All I’ll say.
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I brought this up to FWP ranger /CO in Montana and he said if Let anyone use my can that can better be within arms reach of me the entire time it’s NOT actually in my hands and being used by others.
Informal discussion in the sage that day, for what it’s worth.
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If you want to see the future, look north to Canada. Unless you are the legally registered owner of a firearm, you CANNOT shoot it. I can take my shotguns to Canada for tournaments, but it's illegal for somebody to "try it out" even with me standing adjacent to them.
Ditto for purchasing ammo - you cannot buy a caliber/gauge unless your card indicates same ownership. Must be registered to buy ammo? Yes in Kanada. Yes in Kommifornia (and other places).
Kanada law coming to Amerika soon. No suppressors "aloud" (allowed), for sure & Yes, Kanada law is [bleep], but ....................... As long as I have a Possession & acquisition license, I can buy any commercially available ammunition or components, commercially available. It's not limited to any firearms I own. Without our defunct long gun registry, they have no idea (supposedly), of what we own / possess. Only 5 of our firearms, were purchased, prior to the scrapping of the long gun registry. We do not own, any restricted or prohibited firearms, which are still recorded, via your special access license.
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"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
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When they decide to do confiscation or line up the box cars - they will not discriminate based on "type" of firearm they believe you own. All they'll know is you own A firearm and are a threat to them.
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If you want to see the future, look north to Canada. Unless you are the legally registered owner of a firearm, you CANNOT shoot it. I can take my shotguns to Canada for tournaments, but it's illegal for somebody to "try it out" even with me standing adjacent to them.
Ditto for purchasing ammo - you cannot buy a caliber/gauge unless your card indicates same ownership. Must be registered to buy ammo? Yes in Kanada. Yes in Kommifornia (and other places).
Kanada law coming to Amerika soon. No suppressors "aloud" (allowed), for sure & Yes, Kanada law is [bleep], but ....................... As long as I have a Possession & acquisition license, I can buy any commercially available ammunition or components, commercially available. It's not limited to any firearms I own. Thanks for clarifying 99s. Back in the day (2010-13) I called ahead to my buddy and asked him to buy some .22 ammo, and was told he can't because he only has shotguns registered. When I drove to border & submitted my form 5589 for shotguns (which Constable said would function as my ammo purchase authority), Canadian Tire worker wouldn't let me buy .22 or 7RM ammo, only shotshells. Perhaps things have changed since 2013. Or maybe it's just a visitor thing.
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When they decide to do confiscation or line up the box cars - they will not discriminate based on "type" of firearm they believe you own. All they'll know is you own A firearm and are a threat to them. No need to own firearms. Taking a stroll thru the Capitol is enough to scare them
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