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About $950.00 for this one (Tisas 1911 Match 45), that more than fits the OP's bill. And includes front strap checkering, and other nice features not on the Gold Cup, such as mag well extension, beavertail grip safety, and extended and ambi thumb safety.

A fine pistol and I own one. I'm up to 4 Tisas 1911's if you count the 10mm model.

Gold Cups are usually excellent (Ethan Edwards always had high praise for his), but for a lot less you can get a roughly equivalent Springfield Armory.

As much noise as you make about not supporting anti-2A companies I am surprised you still push Springfield Armory...

Incredibly two-faced company...

Bottom Line Up Front: Get whatever 1911 floats your boat.

Diatribe as to why:

I've shot 2 Gold cups owned by friends in the last 10-ish years. One was a lemon (a 2018 model with various issues, including sometimes getting two shots on a single trigger pull--and that started after the first trip back to the factory!) and the other was fine.

I've also shot quite a few high-end 1911's over the years--I have a friend who is legally blind and was also active at the local gun show; he used to buy and sell nice 1911's regularly. For years his table always had Wilson Combats, Nighthawks, Ed Brown's, etc. on it. He could see enough to shoot with green laser grips, but couldn't see well enough to install them or zero them. Enter me. I'd take his guns to the range and get them zeroed so he could shoot them before eventually selling them. Anyway, it was fun having the opportunity to handle and shoot so many different 1911's.

Here's my takeaway on 1911's: The technology for them is out there for anyone to use. There is no secret science to snapping together a reliable and accurate 1911. That said, my actual shooting experience at common self-defense distances (50 ft and in) is that they all shoot the same. You always have to find the right combination of gun and ammo, but the notion that a Nighthawk will outshoot a Colt/Springfield 1911 is just nonsense perpetrated by the people who laid down $4500 for their gun. You get more problems from the mass production companies than the custom shops, but it ain't no thing to find a production 1911 that shoots.

I say all of that, because when I firmly declare that Gold Cups are overpriced for what you get, people will want to fight me. The Gold Cup is a fine 1911, but it is no more likely to put bullets on target than most other 1911's for less money. Only if you want "cool points" (and I get it: that's a thing) should you lay down the extra cabbage for a Gold Cup. For function and accuracy, your extra money is not buying you anything.

I used to take a TON of grief at my local gun club for my base model 1911 Kimber 9mm...until I shot it in front of whomever was mocking me. More importantly, the mute button really got pressed when the mockers shot it. My friend's Nighthawk 9mm 1911 has nothing on my base model Kimber, complete with plastic backstrap. (By the way, that Nighthawk is currently for sale for like $3400 if you're interested. I can put you in touch with the seller. It's a beautiful gun!) A couple of my friends bought Ruger 1911's when they first came out (designed by Caspian for Ruger, I think) and those pistols shoot every bit as good as any other 1911 I've shot--and they were bought new for only $699.

It's your money, however, and you only have to please yourself. My long post is meant to give you confidence in whatever you buy--you'll be fine. Enjoy!

Had to Google this. It seems that Springfield Armory initially supported Senate Bill 1657, but when its implications were made known to them by the gun rights community, they immediately reversed their position, stating unequivocally that they now oppose it, and hadn't carefully considered its implications initially.

Is that what you're referring to?

Theres 2 ways to look at this,
1. They actually didnt know as stated, or
2. They got caught trying to stack the deck and decided to avert what we now call a Bud Light moment, If their true motives were exposed.

#1 is highly suspect verging on out right lie.
#2 is most likely.

My bet is that their initial response was almost an autopilot kind of thing that came from the attorneys they have overseeing their public relations department.

Yep the 2 companies gave 300,000 to the effort but didnt know a damn thing about the agenda. 🤣

ILLINOIS FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION
"527" Contribution List
Contributor Empoyer/Occupation $ Contribution Amount Date
Rock River Arms
Colona, IL 61241 $150,000 05/31/2014-05/31/2016
Springfield Armory
Geneseo, IL 61254 $150,000 05/31/2014-05/31/2016