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Has anyone else seen a lb of powder go up nearly 10 dollars a pound. Here in PA it hit last week. Very sad to see a pound of powder at or over $60 a pound.
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Has anyone else seen a lb of powder go up nearly 10 dollars a pound. Here in PA it hit last week. Very sad to see a pound of powder at or over $60 a pound. Yes, when do you last buy powder? I’ve watched Hodgdon times like H4350 and Varget go from $42 a pound to $52 a pound here in under a year. Alliant powders, don’t even get me started.
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They will vote our way into socialism, We will have to shoot our way out.
Every major horror in the world was perpetrated in the name of altruism.
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Has anyone else seen a lb of powder go up nearly 10 dollars a pound. Here in PA it hit last week. Very sad to see a pound of powder at or over $60 a pound. Yes, when do you last buy powder? I’ve watched Hodgdon times like H4350 and Varget go from $42 a pound to $52 a pound here in under a year. Alliant powders, don’t even get me started. Yep..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Seems it happened in a week here. Very odd. Has anyone looked at midway. Wow.
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I could not believe it but Brownells was cheaper on my Sport pistol powder than Powder Valley was. $307.00 for 8 pounds compared to Powder Valley at $340.00 for 8 pounds. I bought 5,000 sp primers so I should be set for awhile. I have been having trouble getting CCI #450 SR magnum primers. The last I bought was $99.00 per thousand plus tax. If you want to shoot you must pay the piper. And I like to shoot often.
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Take a look at Midsouth. Not cheap but maybe a little better than the others mentioned? Good luck all, Rick
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We are burning lots of powder around the world these days… and there seems to be no end in sight of that.
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I have been buying powder from Natchez. I live about 50 miles from the warehouse and my local dealer makes a run there every week, so I don't have to pay Hazmat. Trouble right now is the powders I want are not in stock.
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It was just about 5 years ago powder was $25/lb.
I know this is just hearsay but... it feels like the local governments and federal government are making it harder for the gun businesses and increasing the cost of production to try and make it too expensive for people to reload. I think they know they are loosing the gun control issue and are trying a different route to keep people from shooting. Again, this is just hearsay or conspiracy, but it really feels that way. I mean, even in the last couple years, liberals put up a bunch of "new" fake reloading websites to take people's money, donate towards liberal causes, collect usage data, and I heard of a lot of people not getting any components actually delivered to them.
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It was just about 5 years ago powder was $25/lb.
I know this is just hearsay but... it feels like the local governments and federal government are making it harder for the gun businesses and increasing the cost of production to try and make it too expensive for people to reload. I think they know they are loosing the gun control issue and are trying a different route to keep people from shooting. Again, this is just hearsay or conspiracy, but it really feels that way. I mean, even in the last couple years, liberals put up a bunch of "new" fake reloading websites to take people's money, donate towards liberal causes, collect usage data, and I heard of a lot of people not getting any components actually delivered to them. That sounds like tinhat territory, but I agree with what you said.. It's all a ploy.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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It shouldn’t, but it still surprises me how many people are not aware of the world around them. At least it makes for entertaining conspiracy theories….
Let me cut and paste, and add, from a previous post of mine:
We’ve gone from the biggest hoarding event the shooting world has ever seen to a full house run on munitions by half the world’s militaries.
One big military powder or primer order exceeds what we burn through in a year. Plus most of the governments in the western world have told the munition manufacturers to start producing. Most countries have War Production Acts similar to ours.
Japan military spending is the biggest proportion of GDP since…….1945.
The German Parliament has voted to spend the biggest proportion of GDP on defense since……..1945.
Congress has appropriated 3 billion dollars in grants and loans to increase munitions production in the USA.
Look at the now discontinued Enduron powders—that plant went from 8k 155mm artillery rounds to 12k a month, and is adding on to the facility to make 20k+ a month.
A couple years ago the only black powder manufacturing plant, owned by Hodgdon’s, blew up (as black powder plants often do). Hodgdon’s washed their hands of it and put the plant up for sale. Enter Estes Model Rockets. With a loan from Congress, they bought the plant. With grants from Congress they repaired and upgraded the plant. Black Powder is still used in some cases to ignite propellant for artillery, rockets, and even missles. Estes Model Rockets is now a Tier 2 defense contractor.
Rheimetal—one the biggest munitions manufacturer in the world appears to have secured financing to build a 25k artillery rounds a month plant.
The raw materials have be dug out of the ground, refined, combined, and processed just to arrive at the basic components.
This kind of demand creates scarcity of basic materials/commodities and is sending prices through the roof.
From Poland to the Philippines the whole world is arming up, and civilian recreational shooters/handloaders are the last hairs on the tip of the tail.
There’s no conspiracy here—unless we choose to point the finger at Putin, Ping….and Iran.
I know this is less fun than conspiracy theories, but there it is…
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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Theres alot of people needed to listen to the conversation I had with a Aramco company man about the gas " shortages " in the 70's. when I was in Saudia Arabia. What does OPEC do? What happens when a camel farts over there? A shot is fired? A tanker is attacked? Sound familiar with powder and primers?
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Yep. Man’s desire for power through violence is driving this train.
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Yep. Man’s desire for power through violence is driving this train. It is not that but company's preying on fear of people emotions, what did people do when they announced a gas" shortage" in the 70's. People lined up for miles to buy every drop of gas they could. So Aramco saw that and pounced forming OPEC to control production and prices. What about Toilet paper, eggs etc? Why is 93 Octane gasoline 50 cents a gallon in Saudi Arabia and 5.00 here or more?
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Been talk on many sites that suppliers are telling dealers it will be increased even more in 2024. Here in NYS, where our leaders are f**king crazy, we are glad to get ammo or components at any price. If the November elections go bad( fill in a Democratic sweep) this will be nationwide.
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Yep. Man’s desire for power through violence is driving this train. Consider, as an obvious alternative to your perspective, that man's desire to keep his own life (fend off the power hungry you mention) through violence is just as potent a driver. Alpincrick's post is drenched in objectivity, which is precisely why it'll go mostly ignored, even though it shouldn't be ignored. Objectivity is usually abandoned because it is hard. And, it leaves the emotional interpretive systems cold and ignored. Ignore a man's passions and you'll offend him, severely, even if he claims to be a gun slinging 2A conservative that carries a copy of the constitution in his breast pocket.
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seems ramshot powders are scarce probably because of the price ...most reasonable presently on price
reloader 16 seems to be available probably do to the 60.00 a pound
varget and h4350 seem to have been available for the last 6-8 months
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