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We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

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Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'



Nice shootin' Burns!

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Nice shootin John!

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Nice shooting, John!

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

jeff that scope John markets has the hash marks on the horizontal wires,claculated to the particular load in a 10 mph wind.....we just kept shooting through those conditions and it worked pretty good.

Surprising how that bullet can fly down there,being blown so consistently over great distance, shot after shot,if conditions stay consistent..

Big "if", I know

What was the weight of Burn's rifle? Was it sub 10 lbs all up as are his rifles that he sells?

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

He he he he.

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

The plural of antidotal/testimonial is not data

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'



Nice shootin' Burns!

c
Nice shootin John!

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Nice shooting, John!

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

jeff that scope John markets has the hash marks on the horizontal wires,claculated to the particular load in a 10 mph wind.....we just kept shooting through those conditions and it worked pretty good.

Surprising how that bullet can fly down there,being blown so consistently over great distance, shot after shot,if conditions stay consistent..

Big "if", I know

What was the weight of Burn's rifle? Was it sub 10 lbs all up as are his rifles that he sells?

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

He he he he.

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

Just shootin don't mean [bleep], my grandma can do that, it just takes her longer.

Regarding John's group, how many total rounds were fired at that distance and was it in the 40 mph wind? Such a group at 1790 yards with the stiff cross wind seems nearly impossible.

bxroads, I would say after 3 or 4 rounds to adjust his dope with a spotter John shot that group. And yes, that is a consecutive 3 shot group in the wind. With the help of the experienced people and the quality of our equipment, everyone including the beginners were making some great hits at distance in those terrible conditions.

I sure learned a lot on this trip. In those winds I would have never even went out to shoot normally. Between what I learned on this trip and the experience I gained, I now know that I can successfully make long range hits in those conditions. This trip was a great learning experience for all!

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

Yes !

bx John is for real and a great guy to boot....he was good enough to teach me a bit about hitting rocks at 1200 yards;not in Montana but in Wyoming last October....and that takes some doing.

I have seen John shoot,and have no doubt about his ability with a rifle

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

BX: I'd say so....I mean it was definately portable.....not like a mountain rifle for sure,but if you slung t up you would have no problem transporting it.It was by no means anything ridiculously heavy.I'd say 10 pounds?

Guessing but I would say the barrel seemed like a #4 (?).

But no mistaking it was made to hit stuff at long range, and it did. I think the action was a McMillan.Comfy to shoot as well.....I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

NICE shooting John!

Jeff

You should hold your breath till you pass out

Repeat if necessary

I see the children with little-men syndrome are still at it.

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

You haven’t posted a single one

You haven’t posted a single one

Or a picture of himself working out to a forum full of men.


But I think it moved.

Nope, have the trophies gathering dust in the garage and my lifetime of targets out in the workshop, never felt the need to show off or brag on my successes, so there ya go.

Nope, have the trophies gathering dust in the garage and my lifetime of targets out in the workshop, never felt the need to show off or brag on my successes, so there ya go.