Scopes............. - 24hourcampfire

Got around to cracking some Mail open today. Hint.

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Found caps in town. Hint.

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Merry Christmas to you.

I give the Leupold 5 days. The Trijicon significantly more.

If I lived someplace where I did a lot of rifle huntinmg, Trijicon would be on top of my guns. Never had a Trijicon that wasn't outstanding.

Forgot one. Hint.

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New Wood Chipper arrived today too. Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

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Nice haul!

Very curious to hear how well the Credo holds up for you

Looking forward to R&D. Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

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I like Mousers. Hint.

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Will be interested in your thoughts on the Mark 5.

I see 180 eld-m’s loaded to mag confines in that Kimber’s future…….

Nice when folks know how to package wares,for Mail on floats. Hint.

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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Will be interested in your thoughts on the Mark 5.

LOL.

The Struggles will be EPIC.

I hope your LEM grinder holds up better than the one we had. A #32 that last 3 years grinding about 3-4 deer and a half dozen hogs.

Went with the Cabelas Carnivore #42, after 4 years it has now melt the plastic bushing that the auger rides in front of the motor. This is with running a foot pedal so it’s not constantly turning. I’m looking at a Hobart, done with the issues.

The packing,reminded me,of me. Bubble wrap,clear packing tape,zip ties and velcro belts. Hint.(grin)

Should the LEM Puke,I'll set it atop a stump,shoot it with a real scope other than Reupold and toss it off a cliff. I've lost more money than that,in a load of fhuqking laundry. Hint.

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I’ve that exact Lem and no problems so far
Just don’t drop a big piece of beef fat in it.

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's. Still can't find my Mouser brass,but I cleaned house last pass and have no idea! Hint.(grin)

Back to packaging. Hint.

Forgot to tell you about my new ride. My new skins arrived on the Slow Boat today,so The Dealer is going to drop it off in the AM. Not sure it will hit the porch with The Holidays,but will give me time to pick out suspension. You no more than pulled out of the driveway and I hopped in my crummy to check Maill and gather scope caps and my battery was all but dead. Called The Dude,he was here and had the battery out in 10 minutes,hit The Parts Dealer and was back in business,in another 10 minutes. That probably isn't going to hurt his resume,with me. Hint. Laughing!

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Stick, please let us know your thoughts on the trijicon. I know you’ll put it through the wringer. The credo in 2-10x36 has my interest peaked.

The tenmile did quite well in testing on the rokslide scope eval by Form. If the credo is solid for you then that will boost confidence greatly that his wasn’t just a one off good one and that trijicon is putting out some tough and repeatable goods.

Ordered 300 pieces of alpha for the CTR
Hopefully it shakes out decent

This Trijicon was/is slated as a Bear Knocker and the vision,is aboard my 338-06AI. Will flog on it first mechanically,to prove tracking and repeats. It will have to IMPRESS mightily,to displace the BTR Gen2 '12x FFP Mil/Mil LitBitch,which trumps Reupold MK5 3.6-18x HD glass. Hint.

Reupold's goofy 35mm tube,makes less than zero sense. Though the day's packaging was superb. Hint.

I've zero doubt your CTR will shine,as you have it currently configured. We got sidetracked and never finished a Powder Order discussion. Super' plays rather nice in my AI/AT 264 Kreed with 147's and rates a serious thunk,with your Alpha order. Hint.

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Stick…. I might’ve missed it but what truck did you get?

Looking forward to hearing how the latest haul holds up!

A 2.750" 88 ELD Alpha Smooch,is very familiar territory. Hint.

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Tag

Oh my. Hint.

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Having a hard time reading the print on the barrel.

22 Creedmoor?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

A 2.750" 88 ELD Alpha Smooch,is very familiar territory. Hint.

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22 ChestyMother with 7 Tits. Hint.

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Nobody cares about chink scopes on turn bolts. This is 2023 no 2003.

give us the scoop whenever the thermal shows up. Be fun to dump some possums in nzed at my buddies place.. and maybe some ungulates. Lol

Night vision is itar, or I’d pvs-30 his 10/22 for grins

thermals however are unregulated. Haven’t dabbled just yet, but the tech keeps getting better and cheaper it seems.

Have never heard of such things. Hint.

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Hold the cotton pickin' phone. Stick got a 7x57?

Any bets on how long it takes the reupold to puke its guts?

Originally Posted by RevMike

Hold the cotton pickin' phone. Stick got a 7x57?

I'm sure he's going with 180's from the pics....nice.

Originally Posted by Remington280

Originally Posted by RevMike

Hold the cotton pickin' phone. Stick got a 7x57?

I'm sure he's going with 180's from the pics....nice.

No doubt. I hope he shares the throat/leade dimensions. I can't believe he'd have gone with standard SAAMI or CIP.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Will be interested in your thoughts on the Mark 5.

Me too big time!

Happy holidays

Glad to see you working with the Leupold Back Country one pieces. Good results with the ones I've used. 😀

Oh my. Hint.

Talley LW's allllll the way. Hint.

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Stick:

My eyes aren't good enough. Is that 3.275" COAL?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

New Wood Chipper arrived today too. Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

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Is this for testing your scopes?

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Glad to see you working with the Leupold Back. Country one pieces. 😀

I really wish Hawkins would do an integrated ring/base for the Kimber 84M/L.......

Originally Posted by jowens

Stick, please let us know your thoughts on the trijicon. I know you’ll put it through the wringer. The credo in 2-10x36 has my interest peaked.

The tenmile did quite well in testing on the rokslide scope eval by Form. If the credo is solid for you then that will boost confidence greatly that his wasn’t just a one off good one and that trijicon is putting out some tough and repeatable goods.

Am interested in this as well

Originally Posted by RevMike

Stick:

My eyes aren't good enough. Is that 3.275" COAL?

Looks like it to me Mike.

I'll be watching this one. I have thought a Montana set up at such would be a wicked animal.

The Reupold BC's are Skookum,they have meat on the bone. Hint.

As to said Trijicon Credo HX 1-8x28. It's glass is very obviously great. The controls are intuitive,concise and very friendly. Hint.

I'd take parallax control,but it's not offered in said Model. The reticle(MOA sadly) and illumination(way daylight bright) are fhuqking exceptional. I'll always take FFP Mil/Mil when given a choice,but as there are NO choices in this Model,FFP MOA/MOA is certainly doable. Eye-relief is both forgiving and HUGE. It's very WELL laid out. Hint.

The erector is billed as 100 MOA,though this one actuates 105 (windage centered). There is no zero stop,but setting zero is fast and easy,by loosening the top of the locking turret and removing same to index as per whim. The erector scale is 25MOA per revolution,in .25MOA increments. Such things make sense,rather than say a Reupold MK5's Mil erector,travelling 10.5 Mil per revolution...which is pretty fhuqking stupid. With the Credo's locking turrets(both) and robust erector detents,one isn't going to actuate either adjustment,without WANTING to. These are good things. Hint.

1000 words in comparison. Hint.

These things are of course granted in accordance to billed Specifications and less a bullet being fired,yet. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..................

227yds on 8x. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..................

This is so exciting.

Will Leupold be able to keep up with the ChiComs? Not looking good but maybe it will be a Cinderella story?

I, like all the Fans, can't wait for more pictures of "pretend" hunting, staged shots, and "wares that exist".

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Love and Kisses.

Fixated in Wyoming.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

The Reupold BC's are Skookum,they have meat on the bone. Hint.

As to said Trijicon Credo HX 1-8x28. It's glass is very obviously great. The controls are intuitive,concise and very friendly. Hint.

I'd take parallax control,but it's not offered in said Model. The reticle(MOA sadly) and illumination(way daylight bright) are fhuqking exceptional. I'll always take FFP Mil/Mil when given a choice,but as there are NO choices in this Model,FFP MOA/MOA is certainly doable. Eye-relief is both forgiving and HUGE. It's very WELL laid out. Hint.

The erector is billed as 100 MOA,though this one actuates 105 (windage centered). There is no zero stop,but setting zero is fast and easy,by loosening the top of the locking turret and removing same to index as per whim. The erector scale is 25MOA per revolution,in .25MOA increments. Such things make sense,rather than say a Reupold MK5's Mil erector,travelling 10.5 Mil per revolution...which is pretty fhuqking stupid. With the Credo's locking turrets(both) and robust erector detents,one isn't going to actuate either adjustment,without WANTING to. These are good things. Hint.

1000 words in comparison. Hint.

These things are of course granted in accordance to billed Specifications and less a bullet being fired,yet. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..................

Isn't the Credo HX the MOA version of the Credo in Mil? Sorry if I am mistaken?

https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/cr828-c-2900032

Indeed,at the time of order,Euro' didn't have same and now it appears that they don't have the MOA/MOA. Kiss,find pressure and rock on. Hint.

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No worries.. Carry on the with the plan of the day!

I suspect John Burns's distain for Stick is the same distain he has for the women of the "Real Housewives" shows. He thinks Stick is pompous and narcissistic, but he can't take his eyes off the titties.

BTW, the Trij is made in Japan.

Load Development done in (3) shots and long before base,rings or glass was affixed. Hint.

Now to simply shoot a zero,verify stabilization and gun come-ups. Hint.

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I'm liking to hear how about 1 - 8 Arken works out I've been thinking about one of these anyway.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

As to said Trijicon Credo HX 1-8x28. It's glass is very obviously great. The controls are intuitive, concise and very friendly. Hint.

I'd take parallax control,but it's not offered in said Model. The reticle(MOA sadly) and illumination(way daylight bright) are fhuqking exceptional. I'll always take FFP Mil/Mil when given a choice, but as there are NO choices in this Model,FFP MOA/MOA is certainly doable. Eye-relief is both forgiving and HUGE. It's very WELL laid out. Hint.

The erector is billed as 100 MOA, though this one actuates 105 (windage centered). There is no zero stop, but setting zero is fast and easy, by loosening the top of the locking turret and removing same to index as per whim. The erector scale is 25MOA per revolution, in .25MOA increments. Such things make sense, rather than say a Reupold MK5's Mil erector, travelling 10.5 Mil per revolution...which is pretty fhuqking stupid. With the Credo's locking turrets(both) and robust erector detents, one isn't going to actuate either adjustment, without WANTING to. These are good things. Hint.

Toldjaso, but in mrad. *grin*

Originally Posted by beretzs

Originally Posted by RevMike

Stick:

My eyes aren't good enough. Is that 3.275" COAL?

Looks like it to me Mike.

I'll be watching this one. I have thought a Montana set up at such would be a wicked animal.

I'd like to hear particulars, twist, throat, powder....

Bore sighted at 25yds,shot once,corrected and flung a Hasty Trio at 50yds. Looked things over,holes were round,corrected and fired (1) shot at 100yds and zero'd turrets. Hint.

Pea Soup hit The Deck,so hopefuly come-ups in the morning. Hint.

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What made you want to try another Leupold scope out?

I root for Reupold,harder than they do themselves and that is a right fhuqking proper Dichotomy. Hint.

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Originally Posted by Phillip_Nesmith

What made you want to try another Leupold scope out?

To memorialize the struggle? The struggle will be EPIC.

It's coming. Stay Tuned. Hint. Hint.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish struggling to get a Leupold to WORK

Originally Posted by Normal 24hr CF Member with a decent rifle getting a Leupold to work

Another question; why the 7mm Mauser?

Admittedly,10.5 Mils per revolution is REALLY fhuqking funny! Hint.

Same goes the Goat Fhuqk 35mm tube,to eek less erector travel and less parallax control. Hint.

Not to mention a fhuqking zero stop,that can't even deliver all of it's lesser erector travel. Hint.

You make a great point,about eeking a .796 BC's splendor,in a rather sensational parcel. Hint.

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Nary a bullets has been fired and the Leupold Struggle is in full bloom.

Whining about the published specs after purchase is never not funny.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Money in THE Bank. Hint.

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10.5 mils per rev? 😂

Is that a special Wyoming Arms design? What a fawkin mess.

Originally Posted by qwk

10.5 mils per rev? 😂

Is that a special Wyoming Arms design? What a fawkin mess.

While LiL Fish is setting up his next faux studio picture you might explain the class why you would struggle with 10.5 mils per rev.

It'll be fun for some of us.

The Human mind likes round numbers. Base of ten is even better. It’s only obvious(to the sober).

This must be another engineering marvel like the super loud supressor? 😂

The homo wizard never fails to fawk things up.
Lafffin

Originally Posted by qwk

The Human mind likes round numbers. Base of ten is even better. It’s only obvious(to the sober).

This must be another engineering marvel like the super loud supressor? 😂

The homo wizard never fails to fawk things up.
Lafffin

The turret is engraved in numbers.

It's pretty sad dialing 12 mils on that system causes you to struggle so hard.

Just dial to 12 on the second rotation, like fucking every other mil turret with multiple levels of numbers.

The struggles of the LDS crowd never fail to bring a smile.

Can't wait til LiL Fish actually fires a round. EPIC struggles ahead.

qwak has never turned a turret in his life, so it doesn’t matter.

😂😂😂

Yeah my gunsmith turns them for me. Laffin

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

qwak has never turned a turret in his life, so it doesn’t matter.

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by Qwaker all on board the STRUGGLE BOAT

The turret has 10.5 mils!!!!!!

How is it possible to dial to 11 mils!!!!!!!

Dial to 11.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Money in the bank. Hint.

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This place is a circus with clowns fighting over whose face paint is the scariest. What a joke.

I shoot what I like, seem to be very successful at it as well.
The amazing part of this forum is the amount of guys laying in the wait for someone with enough posts to make them allergic to outside, to give a review of junk. (Minus that Trijicon that's a good scope!) It's two guys fighting over their love of crap and who's got the biggest pile. I can't wait for the outcome. Giggles, someone's gonna win I'm just sure of it.

Money in the bank. Hint.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick

Money in the bank. Hint.

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What was the lead time on that pacnor barreled action?

I couldn't begin to speak to those particulars,though Chris has built me a PILE of rifles through the years and who knows how fhuqking many blanks. She is yet another Secondhand Rose and if only in fairness,I can attest to being the 3rd owner and the miles appear rather lowwwwwwww. Hint.

Personally,I believe there is promise,though "there" is wayyyyyy too big of a word for some folks. Hint.

If I didn't have another new rifle and a coupla barrels to install tomorrow,I just might could become smitten. The Monsoon sounds like 50mph+,so the morning is likely to be a .796 BC day. Hint.

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The 2"+ of extra barrel shank screams "custom". Clean up of full length bedding indicates opposite. Hopefully mechanic's of hidden areas is without issue. Easy enough to rectify if not. PacNor barrel hedges odds it will shoot.

I'm simply a NOTORIOUS Short Shanker and Contour Dropper,but arrived at where it sets and never even looked up the skirt. Timed the fore base fastener,aligned Reupold BC's,set the diopter,capped lenses and shot it. Rather well,I might add. Kiss,find pressure and rock on. Hint.

When bedding a Montucky,I simply shoot 'tip pressure as an opening move,tune same and replicate up front,with minimal materials. Easy for me to say,because I don't shoot Reupold and have 100's of rifles to reflect upon,as mechanics go. Hint.

Typical of a Me Build here in the foreground,with shortened/radiused shank and contour reduction. The 'tip is upward pressure bedded,in perhaps a 3/4" wide band. They handle/balance better and neither Accuracy or Precision are compromised. Though I can only reflect upon dozens of 'em and 10's of thousands of rounds. Hint.

PN was my FAVORITE spout for decades and the only thing that's "changed",is what Greg keeps on his shelves,because I never learned how to fhuqking linger. That ain't condemnation,but a reflection of my need to actually fhuqking shoot. Hint.

GREAT bedding,can't be "seen",nor can a GREAT barrel. The Montucky Mouser is a NASTY Bitch and that's high praise. Hint.

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Originally Posted by screaminweasil

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Money in the bank. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

What was the lead time on that pacnor barreled action?

And some thought MRC had atrociously hideous shanks. 😄😁😆😅🤣😂

Keep trying, longshanks. Maybe the 99th build will be a "winner"

Originally Posted by Big Stick

PN was my FAVORITE spout for decades and the only thing that's "changed",is what Greg keeps on his shelves,because I never learned how to fhuqking linger. That ain't condemnation,but a reflection of my need to actually fhuqking shoot.

'Stick, I just screwed a new PacNor on my Rat Rod Gun last evening. 5 weeks from ordering to my door.

Good shootin' -Al

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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by Big Stick

PN was my FAVORITE spout for decades and the only thing that's "changed",is what Greg keeps on his shelves,because I never learned how to fhuqking linger. That ain't condemnation,but a reflection of my need to actually fhuqking shoot.

'Stick, I just screwed a new PacNor on my Rat Rod Gun last evening. 5 weeks from ordering to my door.

Good shootin' -Al

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Very nice. I'm gonna send them an 84 long master classic for barrel work. 8T 223 Ackley. Short trip to the other side of the state. I would think now would be a good time for "shortened" lead times as I tend to be impatient. 5 weeks is very reasonable these days.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to speak to those particulars,though Chris has built me a PILE of rifles through the years and who knows how fhuqking many blanks. She is yet another Secondhand Rose and if only in fairness,I can attest to being the 3rd owner and the miles appear rather lowwwwwwww. Hint.

Personally,I believe there is promise,though "there" is wayyyyyy too big of a word for some folks. Hint.

If I didn't have another new rifle and a coupla barrels to install tomorrow,I just might could become smitten. The Monsoon sounds like 50mph+,so the morning is likely to be a .796 BC day. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

10-4
Sweet rig either way. Look forward to you wringing it out and getting her "wet"

Stick:

I know you're going to test stability at long range. Have you checked the twist? I'm curious.

Thanks

Originally Posted by screaminweasil

I'm gonna send them an 84 long master classic for barrel work. 8T 223 Ackley. Short trip to the other side of the state. I would think now would be a good time for "shortened" lead times as I tend to be impatient. 5 weeks is very reasonable these days.

It was 5 weeks for the blank. Not sure what their lead time is for fit and chambered stuff. -Al

Al,

I keep hoping to see the stock I flung your way,in action. Sleepers have long been one of my Favorite Flavors. Hint.

Chris has built me and pards,piles of 223AI's and all have DAZZLED. There's NO way I wouldn't go 1-7" today and rest assured,that 88 ELD's would be the opening move. No thang to slide the mag shim and shorten the ejector/bolt stop on an 84M .378" Donor. My 21" 223AI 1-7" Rocktucky,is both fhuqking AMAZING and beloved. Hint.

As an aside,as .224" 7" RPM blanks go,I see Greg has Krieger,Bart' and Muller's setting on the shelf this second. Hint.

The Montucky Mouser is a true 9" RPM,if you believe cleaning rods. I never don't not. Hint.

Still isn't daylight enough for me to tell,if the wind is blowing up on the hill,but it's simmered at the porch. If it seems promising,I'll grab a box of new glass,a Sleeper 'Schutz 54 and the requisite rings,then go flog on erectors to see WTF. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by Big Stick

PN was my FAVORITE spout for decades and the only thing that's "changed",is what Greg keeps on his shelves,because I never learned how to fhuqking linger. That ain't condemnation,but a reflection of my need to actually fhuqking shoot.

'Stick, I just screwed a new PacNor on my Rat Rod Gun last evening. 5 weeks from ordering to my door.

Good shootin' -Al

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You're going to need a pillow folded in half over the stock so your eye can reach the scope!

Dually noted, thanks Al. Thanks Stick'. Was thinking mag box restrictions in the 84, but mod seems easy enough......7 twist it is. I run 88s in 223 in a 1/7 PVA Rock Creek on an ARC Nucleus 2.0. No mag restrictions using AICS mags in a KRG Bravo. Funner than hell, but a heavy b+tch with 26" heavy tube. Was thinking factory Kimber varmint dupe in 23" in the 84. Gotta get my sh+t rolling
Thanks again for the intel

Originally Posted by Fotis

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by Big Stick

PN was my FAVORITE spout for decades and the only thing that's "changed",is what Greg keeps on his shelves,because I never learned how to fhuqking linger. That ain't condemnation,but a reflection of my need to actually fhuqking shoot.

'Stick, I just screwed a new PacNor on my Rat Rod Gun last evening. 5 weeks from ordering to my door.

Good shootin' -Al

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You're going to need a pillow folded in half over the stock so your eye can reach the scope!

Most guys shooting "benchrest rifles" don't let there cheek touch the top of the buttstock.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Chris has built me and pards, piles of 223AI's and all have DAZZLED. There's NO way I wouldn't go 1-7" today and rest assured, that 88 ELD's would be the opening move.

Have you tried a 6.5" twist .223 with 88s? Seems like a .219" bore is important at that point. I'm all about eliminating as many variables as possible, and a 6.5" twist gets the 88 at .223 launch speeds super-stable with an SG of 1.5+ in all atmospherics, which eliminates stability-dependent BC loss. I haven't tried it yet, but keep meaning to order a .219" bore, 6.5" twist barrel for a .223 build.

I personally wouldn't go longer than 21" and if it was that heavy of a contour,I'd flute. Hint.

It is never not entertaining,how BIG of a word "there" is for somebody. Hint.

Couldn't find a Sleeper 'Schutz that wasn't wearing 75MOA inclination,so will come full circle back to my Heavy Vudoo. Will mount all 1913 and then be able to swap on the fly,to see WTF. Hint.

I only shoot 223AI in 7,7.5,7.7,8,9,10,12 and 14" RPM. I've 6.5" RPM 224 Grendels. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

Interested to read your thoughts on the Arken 1-8 after you spend some time behind it. Especially on the reticle. I'm lukewarm on the reticle, but that's simply from seeing it on paper. Perhaps gawking through the scope and putting it into use is a different story?

The reticle is far enough off the beaten path,to be sending red flags and it's nomenclature doesn't smooth much over in my book. Hint.

I'm a Lineal Scale Guy and would have been VERY happy to see it wear something as simple,as their 1-6x HD MQ reticle. It's FFP and wears 25 MOA per revolution turrets,which are far more intuitive than say a Reupold and 10.5 Mil's upon same. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I'm rather curious,if the innards are worth a fhuqk. The exterior is a touch rough on the rainshade,with grit and schit in the threads. Grease is Reupold's. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Was the the scope a replacement for the spotter that went tits up 3x?
Looks like the exterior needed a rub down with armorall, lol
I hope the scope preforms but they probably need to get the Cheeto dust out of em first.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I keep hoping to see the stock I flung your way,in action. Sleepers have long been one of my Favorite Flavors. Hint.

It's up next after I finish the clean up on this Kelbly KLP that I just re inletted from a 700 foot print and bedded for a BAT SV. It was a total eyeball-it millapalooza.

I'll finish cutting in the trigger mortise after Christmas and then it's off to the hydro dipper.

Greg Taylor at GT Accuracy supplied me with a 3D printed Panda 'action' blank that should ease things a bit when inletting the flat top you generously donated to a new shooters cause. I'm supplying the inletting/bedding work and have several killer good extra barrels for him, extra scope rings, dies, etc. that will get donated to the effort. There was a bit of a time lag on the action but it should be here early January.

Thanks again for your contribution! I'll start on it once the action is in my hands.

Best wishes for a great Christmas.

-Al

Originally Posted by Japlvr

Most guys shooting "benchrest rifles" don't let there cheek touch the top of the buttstock.

Did not know that. What about the small hole in the rings? Does that serve a purpose?

Originally Posted by Fotis

Originally Posted by Japlvr

Most guys shooting "benchrest rifles" don't let there cheek touch the top of the buttstock.

Did not know that. What about the small hole in the rings? Does that serve a purpose?

That is for the rings to "open" slightly when sliding them over the dovetail base. In other words, the hole is for the lower part of the ring to "flex" some while sliding it over the dovetail base.

There: There is always a hope and a prayer.

I hope, you nice folks get your rifles, just how you want them.

Go out and make a gut pile or two.

Enjoy life to its fullest.

Originally Posted by Japlvr

Originally Posted by Fotis

Originally Posted by Japlvr

Most guys shooting "benchrest rifles" don't let there cheek touch the top of the buttstock.

Did not know that. What about the small hole in the rings? Does that serve a purpose?

That is for the rings to "open" slightly when sliding them over the dovetail base. In other words, the hole is for the lower part of the ring to "flex" some while sliding it over the dovetail base.

And on these rings, the beam strength was such that it was very hard to tighten the rings to the rail adequately. I milled a hole at the top of the slot to let them flex just a skosh more when tightened. Some 638 Loctite goes between the rings and the dove tail and a recoil lug like the one shown below will be fitted.
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Al,

I'm anxious to see/hear how it turns out. Hint.

Need to warm up,throw dry duds on and start uploading pics. The Reupold MK5 was magnificent. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

The weather did indeed lay right the fhuqk down and conditions were rather exceptional. Hint.

So I set up a TTT at 50yds,hung a plum line,traced same and marked it in 5 Mil increments to 20 Mil's. 23 Mil's is all that remained after the 50yd zero. Zero'd turrets and went to shooting TTT. Prior to the first shot and for every one there after,I ran erector up until it hit 23 Mil's,returned to zero stop,whirled zoom selector high to low and then put in the requisite correction. Obviously aiming at the same point,for every shot. Hint.

Pretty fhuqking FUNNY,for a $2000 MSRP scope! Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Makes me glad to have a scope checker to at least verify tracking and adjustments before they go on the gun.

Good shootin' -Al

Second stanza,following the course of the first. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Shocking

Maybe the barrel is bent

Originally Posted by Phillip_Nesmith

What made you want to try another Leupold scope out?

You actually spent money on a loopie....????
You know the chinkie chow part time internals are going to bite you.
YOU KNOW THAT.. RIGHT?

dave

It's all part of a shtick. Hint

I didn't buy "a Reupold",I bought "THE Reupold" and as mentioned often,I was rooting for them. Hint.

Third stanza,following suit of the prior. I ran erector up until it hit 23 Mil's,returned to zero stop,whirled zoom selector high to low and then put in the requisite correction. Obviously aiming at the same point,for every shot. Hint.

Here is where a 15 Mil correction/repeat,looks to be a sweet spot. It doesn't drift from center as bad and sort of Agg's. Hint

To be continued. Hint................

Lying Liars Lie!!

Fourth stanza. In "fairness" the RTZ was within 50% of the platform's capabilities in the first trio. Shot #4,sank that battleship. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Go throw the steaming pile of s*** in the Creek, that'll fix it. ya ain't learnt nothing yet?

Intellestingly enough,the Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x HD M5C3-35mm FFP PR1-Mil #180726's reticle,did in fact jive with MEASURED values,though it's erector,did not align it's very own reticle. Hint.

Fifth stanza. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Intellestingly enough,the Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x HD M5C3-35mm FFP PR1-Mil #180726's reticle,did in fact jive with MEASURED values,though it's erector,did not align it's very own reticle. Hint.

Maybe it'd be good on a full choked buckshot slinger..

Man, that's too bad, I was kinda hoping it was going to hammer it out of the park.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Intellestingly enough,the Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x HD M5C3-35mm FFP PR1-Mil #180726's reticle,did in fact jive with MEASURED values,though it's erector,did not align it's very own reticle. Hint.

Fifth stanza. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

You do have to wonder how one guy can be so right and everyone else is wrong. You are one of the 8 wonders of the world…

LESS touching a turret,the scope did nice thangs. I felt like it directed the platform,largely to it's potential. Shooting staples as per whim and slipping a second projectile into a fresh made bullet hole. Touch the erector and ALL bets were off. I've ZERO fhuqking doubt,that windage intrusion,would have knocked schit off the spacious 50yd backer. Hint.

The culmination of 5rds fired,as cited. Hint.

Pardon reality,as the Drooling CLUELESS Lying Pieces Of Fhuqking Schit,DREAM aloud. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

This project has been funded by the CCP.

I'm Xi and I approve this message.

Hint

It is Fascinatingly Fhuqking HILARIOUS,just how badly Reupold wishes they could say "MADE in America",but legally can't. Hint.

I'd liken it akin to Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Hint.

A simplistic 10 Mil correction and RTZ,was an EPIC Goat Fhuqk. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Sad .
But predictable.

dave

Originally Posted by Big Stick

A simplistic 10 Mil correction and RTZ,was an EPIC Goat Fhuqk. Hint.

You should have used a good rifle.

Yours truly,
John Burns

Wasn't gonna say schit,until I locked mine in and called pards. Hint.(grin)

It is VERY fhuqking weird,that 15 Mil corrections,were fair to middlin',as an extrapolation overview goes. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Odd how Chink parts work fine in a Chink machined/assembled scope but ain't worth a shyt in a Leupold.

Originally Posted by mathman

Originally Posted by Big Stick

A simplistic 10 Mil correction and RTZ,was an EPIC Goat Fhuqk. Hint.

You should have used a good rifle.

Yours truly,
John Burns

It would be fun to go hunting with Burns and Stick. They have all the good spots and when you got there, they would be so busy bragging, you could do all the shooting...

Pardon wares that exist ladies,as you rattle pom-pom's on the sidelines of Life. Hint.

20 Mil corrections,were/are EPIC fhuqking hilarity. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Odd how Chink parts work fine in a Chink machined/assembled scope but ain't worth a shyt in a Leupold.

The Leupold assemblers don't have the right slant on the procedure.

Originally Posted by mathman

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Odd how Chink parts work fine in a Chink machined/assembled scope but ain't worth a shyt in a Leupold.

The Leupold assemblers don't have the right slant on the procedure.

of all the chink optics out there a very low % actually work as they should

It's "Reupold",for very WELL founded reason(s). Hint.

Coming full circle,to Reupold MK5 "splendor". Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

This is awsome. Follows my script to the tee.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Bois watching this Circus

That's what people say. But it did not take a WIZARD to have seen this pathetic stupidity coming.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Funny, people that actually shoot don't use what the mouthy midget shills.....

PRS website

You can go to the bottom and click on what gear the winners use.

Someone isn't keeping the lines straight up and down. Hint! level. That horizontal will be even worse at 30 mils.

I know clueless is blissful.

Sharpnel, it would probably turn into a man love you wouldn't care to see if John and John JR took you to a secret spot.

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny, people that actually shoot don't use what the mouthy midget shills.....

PRS website

You can go to the bottom and click on what gear the winners use.

In fairness Leupold gives a lotta stuff away.
I'm going all in for the Trijicon in this expert review.

Hurt Feeler Reports,don't "heal" compromised erectors ladies. Hint.

10 Mil "corrections",are funnier than fhuqk! Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny, people that actually shoot don't use what the mouthy midget shills.....

PRS website

You can go to the bottom and click on what gear the winners use.

In fairness Leupold gives a lotta stuff away.
I'm going all in for the Trijicon in this expert review.

And they shoot on the clock in competition and do well with those scopes. The ones getting free scopes from any manufacturer wouldn't get sponsored and get the free scopes (from any manufacturer) if they couldn't shoot well in competition, and, conversely, they wouldn't use the scopes if they couldn't compete with them.

True but don't think that Leupold is dumb enough to send a top prs competitor the same scope the sent John JR.

Pretty new here but it seems this forum is big on Chinese glass.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

True but don't think that Leupold is dumb enough to send a top prs competitor the same scope the sent John JR.

Pretty new here but it seems this forum is big on Chinese glass.

Interesting line of thought. So you think they can make scopes that track but just do it for a few?

Follow up question: how come literarily nobody used any of the scopes the mouthy midget shills in high level competition? I mean, if they're perfect, wouldn't SOMEONE use at least one?????

Maybe, just maybe, there's an explanation.......

Longshanks should post a ranting video to Youtube about it and get ready for the comments. LOL

Funny how everyone else who tested it didn't have those results. Hint.

Operator error?

Or is there no compensation for diabetic shakes, substance tremors, or blurry eyed hangovers?

Liar Larry, so predictable.

Pardon a simplistic critique by me,swaying the Market,whether an Ebb or Flow. Droolers even swipe my punctuation,to file their Hurt Feeler Reports and feign "heralded" Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Hint.

15 Mil "corrections",were rather fhuqking ugly,given the Splendor of the platform,yet the Reupold's BEST efforts. Hint.

Reupold,for Rife!

To be continued. Hint................

Reupold is and will continue to be dog schiet...why change when dumb f ucks keep buying them?

building piano's, are your tape measure and rangefinder verified to the same standards you're looking for in adjustments?

isn't it common practice to learn the tall test correction factor and plug into your solutions thinger for the these long range target shooting disciplines? is this posted in the hunting optics section again? wtf man

what do you use the verify your rangefinder? you got a perfect yard step length? rolling tape also verified accurate? so far past the point of diminishing returns and black hole of chasing tales...fun to watch though

would it be hard to fabricate any of this? careful folks, this is the internet...discern accordingly

I can see why that scope would be used and win plenty although you're trying to paint some picture that isn't relevant to landing bullets precisely down range. carry on

Funny, people that actually shoot don't use what the mouthy midget shills.....

PRS website

You can go to the bottom and click on what gear the winners use.

[quote=goalie]Funny, people that actually shoot don't use what the mouthy midget shills.....

PRS website

You can go to the bottom and click on what gear the winners use.

[/quote

They'd need a whole closet full as backup because of the worthless warranty and prone to breakage. Hint

If only in "fairness" to The GoogleFu Crew,I needn't solicit opinions on wares that I own and shoot. Hint.

Now 20 Mil's was fhuqking EXCEPTIONALLY a Goat Fhuqk. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Stick, why do YOU think nobody shooting PRS uses any of the scopes you shill? Be specific.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

True but don't think that Leupold is dumb enough to send a top prs competitor the same scope the sent John JR.

Pretty new here but it seems this forum is big on Chinese glass.

KSMITH is still butthurt about being outed here for Stolen Valor and pretending to be a SEAL.

She thinks a sockpuppet will fix all that Stolen Valor.

[Linked Image from media.giphy.com]

Most all who shoot know LiL Fish is a liar who fakes lot's of pictures but these latest LiL Fish faked pictures are so bad even the Fan Bois are shaking heads.

This thread is going to deliver lots of laughs and you guys were here to see it unfold in real time. So Predictable.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish fan bois staring at the Obviously Faked Pictures

Opinion of one <me> I do trust what Mr Stick presents. I do not trust anything Mr Burns presents.

Mr Burns presents assertion <unfounded>.

Mr Stick presents field test results.

I reckon I'm plum flattered,that my words have the power to change "Life",for the maligned. Hint.

A simple scope swap,is fhuqking enlightening. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

I’ll take the swiffer and a K

Loopy dupes are the definition people displaying cognitive dissonance

Been around a few loopy erectors to know to stay far away. What’s the old one.. you gotta work the grease out.. and go past the spot then come back and smack it?

I don’t root against them… but the market place is full of 2-300$ scopes that take a beating and still track/hold zero. I’ll take the 1500$ saved and donate it to GOA and buy American somewhere else.

Stick, why do YOU think nobody shooting PRS uses any of the scopes you shill?

The Cronus on that list is an Athlon.

I'm going to buy a $2000 scope that I "know" won't work. And then I'll come up with a test to "prove" that it doesn't work. So, I'll bitch, piss, and moan, take it off, and put it in the closet forever.

Makes perfect rational sense.

Mechanics matter. Hint.

It's the stuff you gals read about. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

At least the poopie loopie RTZ looks like it's working.
Should keep the fan boys happy...

dave

Originally Posted by KenMi

I'm going to buy a $2000 scope that I "know" won't work. And then I'll come up with a test to "prove" that it doesn't work. So, I'll bitch, piss, and moan, take it off, and put it in the closet forever.

Makes perfect rational sense.

Like new in box Leupolds sell for very close to retail.

Not risking hardly anything to take a few pictures and then sell the scope.

LiL Fish has always been a schill.

In the past he was just better at pulling the wool over the Fan Boi eyes.

I simply shoot it ALL and then some. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Mechanics matter. Hint.

It's the stuff you gals read about. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

I have a retarded friend who did similar videos with Leupold. Looks like LiL fish copied him.

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

building piano's, are your tape measure and rangefinder verified to the same standards you're looking for in adjustments?

i

what do you use the verify your rangefinder? you got a perfect yard step length? rolling tape also verified accurate? so far past the point of diminishing returns and black hole of chasing tales...fun to watch though

I guarantee this is the problem along with a scope that is mounted turned in the rings

Originally Posted by mathman

The Cronus on that list is an Athlon.

It isn't a scope Stick shills though. Details matter.

got lucky on one of my custom leupolds, they warned me the turret wasn't meant for a fixed lol I said put it on anyway, fx2 6x36 added a cds-zl turret to it, ended up with .3 moa per click lol, got another 50 yards out of it on a slow ass 16" barrel 6.5 Grendel, supposed to give me a 550 yard mark from 200 but ended up with a 6 on it...beauty lol, bit odd finding that out but once I did it was not hard to solve for and get the matching speed dial turret, seems to track/return as normal but I don't go haywire like stick here, just hunt and kill sh1t with no mysteries

wish most of my elevation diallers were more than 1/4 moa per click come to think of it, less is more on that part of the equation, hunting is the only thing that matters here in a hunting optics forum, what is hunting? hint

how prs anything gets discussed here is weird, not even closely related, isn't there another section for the fack around find out crowd?

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

how prs anything gets discussed here is weird, not even closely related, isn't there another section for the fack around find out crowd?

Well, seeing as how they actually use gear, on the clock, with an audience, and shoot really well with the gear, PRS, like other shooting sports, actually allows the cream to rise to the top and shakes out a lot of fluff from gear people use.

Anyone that thinks long range shooting competition ISN'T relevant to long range plinking isn't paying attention.

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:
Mount the scope canted in the rings
Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it
Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed
Draw the vertical line off plumb
Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards
Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

The OP being a Lying Liar that faked a tall target test is the real answer.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish watching her Bull Shit lies get exposed

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Explain the groups ?…….

Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Explain the groups ?…….

delirium tremens

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Mechanics matter. Hint.

It's the stuff you gals read about. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

I have a retarded friend who did similar videos with Leupold. Looks like LiL fish copied him.

A delinquent contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Rick:

Does your gunsmith know about and approve of you posting on the internet about rifle scopes?

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Explain the groups ?…….

delirium tremens

Laffin!
You are a hoot!
Stay strong pony boy!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

how prs anything gets discussed here is weird, not even closely related, isn't there another section for the fack around find out crowd?

Well, seeing as how they actually use gear, on the clock, with an audience, and shoot really well with the gear, PRS, like other shooting sports, actually allows the cream to rise to the top and shakes out a lot of fluff from gear people use.

Anyone that thinks long range shooting competition ISN'T relevant to long range plinking isn't paying attention.

and looks like leupold top choice in that prs gear they use thing...

but still you just described target plinking vs target plinking...there's a competitive shooting forum here, go play there

hunting, including long range hunting, is all done by 600 for the majority of all shooters/hunters, the stuff being discussed here in the hunting optics section is completely irrelevant and useless, looks like a 'strategy' to push new product sales via bashing others that own segment...you know...$$$$$$$$$

you practice the wrong stuff with the wrong gear and then go do something totally different with said gear and practice and someone who practices for the task at hand will have much fuller freezers and walls...prs year round, old stormy kromer wearing western boys with sporters and lr duplex reticles will run circles around you, they'll be cutting tags while you're waiting for range and wind call from your buddy lol

I'm not budget friendly to this prs crap lol. But a certain rokslide god it came out of his own mouth that moderate amount of shooters/hunters can consistently kill to 450 and very few to 600...so why is that? I polled them also and many cut their play shooting distances in half and 500-600 was thrown out as a common upper limit...any idea why? Because none of this target stuff that's way past point of diminishing returns is going to help you. So if you knew that you could focus your gear, set up and practice for task at hand, which simplifies it and speeds you up. A whole bunch of the wrong practice and wrong gear will have you meet Murphy and waste your time really if hunting is your goal...including long range hunting. So in the fine words of brad Pitt in money ball...what the fack are you talking about?

Those who throw lead at animals long enough with all the gear learn that hunting and shooting are two different things. Why all this target crap in the hunting optics section when majority know what hunting is now, why all this muddy of that? Oh right.....$$$$$$$$.......gotta sell these hunters more gear and methods, gotta make em think this is the badazz thing to do and put yer time and money into.

Nah bro, you can be ballistically fluent, gear fluent and set up far more suited for hunting with your own gongs and limited time and remove all that noise and fat that will cost you one day and slow you down.

Get this garbage, and especially little stick, into forum sections he belongs, he does not talk about hunting optics at all.

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Rick:

Does your gunsmith know about and approve of you posting on the internet about rifle scopes?

He should. Advertising that he doesn’t know his a hole from a hole in the ground, can’t be good for business.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Do you outsource everything besides spaghetti? Jfc...

As a new guy looking at this thread it's pretty clear that John and John Jr both have mush heads that are entrenched in their camps.

Wow what a sad place this is!

Is it ok to use a Leupold and a set of Talley rings if I just want to take my gun for a drinking and driving trip.

There are FEW things in this World,are as "soothing" as Reupold UnFhuqk Charts. Hint.

FORTUNATELY for me and only on it's 3rd trip to THE Fhuqk Up Factory,my MK4 FFP Spotter had it's erector assembly diagnosed and repaired. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING! Hint.

Pardon my having 100's of scopes and simply HOPING Reupold's Flagship would connect a dot. It don't,because it can't and the "surprises" are less than zero. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Soothing. Hint.

Exceptional Reupold Rink

To be continued. Hint.............

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Do you outsource everything besides spaghetti? Jfc...

A quick check shows us Rick kills lots of game at LR and wins Long Range shooting comps on his own.

How about you internet Rando?

Never done anything of merit in your worthless life yet here you are yappin on the internet as a Rando.

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

Mr Burns steering to a dik swing contest. Typical tactic.

And Mr Burns is referring to cumaglias dik!

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Mr Burns steering to a dik swing contest. Typical tactic.

Internet Randos hate it when anyone brings up actually having done anything but randomly post on the internet.

Randos consider random posting actually doing something.

Originally Posted by Internet Rando seeing pictures or video of things done

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Do you outsource everything besides spaghetti? Jfc...

Oh, did you build a heavy fixture to rigidly hold a barreled action, have shims to .001”, a $600 level, a perfectly laser-leveled vertical line on a building 35 yards away, perfectly marked for the exact distance in MOA on one side and Mils on the other?

Yeah, me neither

Nice thing is he lets me use his equipment to mount and evaluate scopes 👌🏼

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

A quick check shows us Rick kills lots of game at LR and wins Long Range shooting comps on his own.

How about you internet Rando?

The crazy thing is that I’ve done it with Leupold scopes that have been mounted with precision

It's threads like this that make me realize how many hang on his every word

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

A quick check shows us Rick kills lots of game at LR and wins Long Range shooting comps on his own.

How about you internet Rando?

The crazy thing is that I’ve done it with Leupold scopes that have been mounted with precision

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Do you have someone make your ammunition? I imagine you do. Like, with all the time needed to practice shooting there's little time left for ammunition loading.

Originally Posted by moosemike

It's threads like this that make me realize how many hang on his every word

I’m about to hang myself.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckedinthehead

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckedinthehead

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

Originally Posted by 2 Dogs fuckin

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I'll always take FFP Mil/Mil when given a choice,but as there are NO choices in this Model,FFP MOA/MOA is certainly doable.
To be continued. Hint..................

They have the Credo (not HX) in MIL/MIL.

https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/cr828-c-2900032

https://www.sportsmans.com/hunting-...ad-seg-cir-crosshair-ffp-scope/p/1662090

😂🤣

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

I left out 2 other top 10 finishes at the Steel Safari in 2015 and 2016

Damn

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckedinthehead

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckedinthehead

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

Bravo Amigo

Originally Posted by rcumagliahomobuttpilot

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckedinthehead

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

That is marvelous! I imagine for the 2012, 2013 Sniper's Hide there must have been cheating by others that prevented you from the Champion award.

That is a fabulous video! I bet you reminisce about bygone feelings of joy when you were receiving those awards. And the interviews you must have had with media....thrilling!

I'm so proud for you! I'll share that video with members of my shooting community to hopefully provide motivation that they too may be presented awards like yours.

How do you find the time to keep the awards all polished and pristine? I suggest you hire a house boy to perform that task. What a fabulous display

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I left out 2 other top 10 finishes at the Steel Safari in 2015 and 2016

Damn

I, like many here, wonder what brand of scope did you use at those matches?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That is marvelous! I imagine for the 2012, 2013 Sniper's Hide there must have been cheating by others that prevented you from the Champion award.

Nope. 2013 was the first Steel Safari in which I ever competed

I finished second

Won it the next year, 2014

Thank you for your concern

Originally Posted by JohnBurnshomobuttpilot

Originally Posted by rcumagliahomobuttpilot

I left out 2 other top 10 finishes at the Steel Safari in 2015 and 2016

Damn

I, like many here, wonder what brand of scope did you use at those matches?

Thanks.

Reupold??

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I left out 2 other top 10 finishes at the Steel Safari in 2015 and 2016

Damn

I, like many here, wonder what brand of scope did you use at those matches?

Thanks.

Every rifle I own has a Leupold Scope mounted on it, whether a Match or Hunting rifle

I’m probably just lucky

😝

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogstookaClubbin’

Originally Posted by moosemike

It's threads like this that make me realize how many hang on his every word

Or how few. Lol

Originally Posted by rcumagliahomobuttpilot

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogChampion’

SHOCKING that you post a photo of you beating your meat, SHOCKING, NOT FABULOUS

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I left out 2 other top 10 finishes at the Steel Safari in 2015 and 2016
Damn

I, like many here, wonder what brand of scope did you use at those matches?

Thanks.

Every rifle I own has a Leupold Scope mounted on it, whether a Match or Hunting rifle

I’m probably just lucky
😝

Well a few say "It's better to be lucky than good".

In a recent poll of winners they said "Being really good sure helps bring lots of good luck".

Anyhow it's a safe bet the OP of this thread is neither good nor lucky and the internet beating will continue until her morale improves.

[Linked Image from media.tenor.com]

Longshanks doesn't even know the other thread on him was started. Too busy drooling in the mirror.

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4000

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Its pretty easy to make a tall target test produce results like this:

Mount the scope canted in the rings

Mount the scope canted in the rings and do not install a bubble level on the scope or improperly install it

Mount the scope so that the center crosshairs veer off of a perfectly plumb line as more travel is dialed

Draw the vertical line off plumb

Do a 50 yard test at 49 or 51 yards

Mark the “vertical line” with poorly measured mil increments

Mount the scope on a POS rifle that’s not a proven laser

Plus probably a few more that I haven’t listed

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Do you outsource everything besides spaghetti? Jfc...

A quick check shows us Rick kills lots of game at LR and wins Long Range shooting comps on his own.

How about you internet Rando?

Never done anything of merit in your worthless life yet here you are yappin on the internet as a Rando.

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

Says the dumb fat f uck that clings to retired sf dudes.......lol lol your claim to fame is failure and [bleep] AR's. You are a hanger-on...

Keep sucking and glucking you red faced drunk mf'er

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

Like a moth to flame.....or more aptly a hog to slop......the red faced drunkard can't help himself. Much like when he sees a lonely SF dude....lol

Sorry, I didn't read all of the previous posts. Can someone recommend a hunting scope for deer out to 100 yds. Thanks all.

Bwahahah

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Simple

Every shot was fired with a slightly different degree of rifle cant

Since there is no bubble level, there is no reference to insure every shot is fired with the rifle in the same position

It’s actually a perfect example of why a correctly installed bubble level is critical for long range shooting

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

The target is also a perfect example of why the scope should be mounted so the reticle moves perfectly vertically to the centerline of the bore

Assuming the vertical line is plumb, notice as more correction is dialed how the “groups” veer to the right of the line

The scope is turned in the rings

(To the left, counterclockwise)

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Simple

Every shot was fired with a slightly different degree of rifle cant

Since there is no bubble level, there is no reference to insure every shot is fired with the rifle in the same position

It’s actually a perfect example of why a correctly installed bubble level is critical for long range shooting

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

The target is also a perfect example of why the scope should be mounted so the reticle moves perfectly vertically to the centerline of the bore

Assuming the vertical line is plumb, notice as more correction is dialed how the “groups” veer to the right of the line

The scope is turned in the rings

(To the left, counterclockwise)

Pretty sure I already said that.

Someone is going to get a great deal on a broken Leupold.

Certainly the reticle isn't canted.....

This is typical of reupold

Interesting...........

Ovino Expedition hunting videos.
Usually a Blaser w a Swaro on top.

Recent vids...........Bushnell.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Certainly the reticle isn't canted.....

This is typical of reupold

Of course it is canted in relationship to the action and center of the bore or he wouldn’t have had those results

The guy doesn’t even show how he mounted the scope, degree of precision that the action was leveled first (he doesn’t even level the action), degree of precision the scope was mounted to the leveled action.

After mounting a scope that you have done your best with, all you know is what you see statically. The crosshairs may appear to be perfectly plumb to your plumb line.

The only way to know if you’ve done it right is:

1. Shoot the tall target test and make adjustments by turning the scope in the rings if impacts veer off plumb

2. Run the scope through its entire travel while the perfectly leveled barreled action is rigidly held in a fixture and visually confirming that the reticle tracks perfectly plumb along the line all the way up and down

I’m sure Leupold laughed at him when they received the scope for repair since the entire problem was his pitiful scope mount

A video version as half assed as the original half assed test above. Lol.

Maybe they should collaborate and build a "winner".

Just because it's an a-hole who says or writes something doesn't in and of itself mean it's wrong. You can be a total a-hole and still be correct. I know as I was correct one time.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Simple

Every shot was fired with a slightly different degree of rifle cant

Since there is no bubble level, there is no reference to insure every shot is fired with the rifle in the same position

It’s actually a perfect example of why a correctly installed bubble level is critical for long range shooting

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

The target is also a perfect example of why the scope should be mounted so the reticle moves perfectly vertically to the centerline of the bore

Assuming the vertical line is plumb, notice as more correction is dialed how the “groups” veer to the right of the line

The scope is turned in the rings

(To the left, counterclockwise)

When doing a TTT, it’s pretty easy to align the reticle with the plumb line, which mitigates any horizontal POI variation at a fixed distance that is caused by a scope not being mounted square with the bore.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

That is true as the actual distance increases. Since the TTT is done at a fixed distance, as long as the reticle is aligned with the plumb line, any windage offset should remain constant.

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

That is true as the actual distance increases. Since the TTT is done at a fixed distance, as long as the reticle is aligned with the plumb line, any windage offset should remain constant.

“If” the reticle was aligned consistently shot to shot.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Certainly the reticle isn't canted.....

This is typical of reupold

After mounting a scope that you have done your best with, all you know is what you see statically. The crosshairs may appear to be perfectly plumb to your plumb line.

The only way to know if you’ve done it right is:

1. Shoot the tall target test and make adjustments by turning the scope in the rings if impacts veer off plumb

2. Run the scope through its entire travel while the perfectly leveled barreled action is rigidly held in a fixture and visually confirming that the reticle tracks perfectly plumb along the line all the way up and down

1. Doesn’t test how the scope is mounted, but rather misalignment between the reticle and the erector axis.
2. With the rifle perfectly level, this ensures that the reticle is square to the bore if the reticle is alignd with the plumb line. The tracking part tests alignment between the reticle and the erector.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

That is true as the actual distance increases. Since the TTT is done at a fixed distance, as long as the reticle is aligned with the plumb line, any windage offset should remain constant.

“If” the reticle was aligned consistently shot to shot.

Yup. 👍

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

That is true as the actual distance increases. Since the TTT is done at a fixed distance, as long as the reticle is aligned with the plumb line, any windage offset should remain constant.

Not true

A slight cant angle at 50 yards shooting with 1 mil dialed and the impact slightly above the POA is magnified greatly if the is the same slight cant angle and a shot is fired with 20 mils in the erector and the impact waaay above the POA

It’s how angles work

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings. The problem with many scopes, Leupold included, is that the reticle itself is canted; therefore tracking and the barrel itself aren't aligned. Therefore, tracking will drift regardless. I have one Mark 6 that has the same problem and Leupold gave me hell trying to get it repaired. Leupold tried to tell me I didn't know what I was doing, told me it was the rifle, pulled the gas lighting, etc. I used to be a precision rifle instructor and have done well in many precision rifle matches (yes, even top 20 at some national-level matches). Incompetence wasn't the problem.

The deviation was off such that around 900 yards, shooting with a level, my tracking would begin to drift. I put one of my S&B PM-IIs on the gun and tracking issues went away and I could shoot the rifle out to around a mile without issue.

They promised to replace the scope after the third trip back, but they didn't. They replaced the erector system and reticle. It seems to be better than it had been, but I have it on a rifle that is relatively short-range now. I have another Mark 6 that was fine from day one. When the Leupold scopes work, they are a pleasure with light weight and good glass.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

That is true as the actual distance increases. Since the TTT is done at a fixed distance, as long as the reticle is aligned with the plumb line, any windage offset should remain constant.

Not true

A slight cant angle at 50 yards shooting with 1 mil dialed and the impact slightly above the POA is magnified greatly if the is the same slight cant angle and a shot is fired with 20 mils in the erector and the impact waaay above the POA

It’s how angles work

You’re describing the scope being canted relative to the plumb line. In which case, you’re right.

I’m describing the scope reticle and erector aligned with the plumb line, but the bore offset horizontally due to the scope being mounted out of square with the bore.

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

This will result in a horizontal offset that increases with distance.

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

This will result in a horizontal offset that increases with distance.

Absolutely, it will. Providing that means it was also offset to the bore. Which came first? The drift from reticle misalignment to the bore, or the drift from reticle misalignment to the erector?

Typical Reupold erector behavior. If you don't touch it,things are OK-ish. Manipulate same and ALL bets are off and never in lineal scale,if only to the chagrin of The Bubble Boys. Hint.

Simply swap scopes and then you can do as you please. I "only" have 100's of scopes to exterpolate. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Let me guess, the swfa works as advertised.....

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

Lol

Barely have 100 of 'em. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I’m so happy to own zero Leupolds. Those scopes suck balls.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Loves_To_Give_Handy_Jobs_To_Randos

Certainly the reticle isn't canted.....

This is typical of reupold

This is typical of Leupold mounted on a good rifle with a skilled shooter.

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Explain the groups ?…….

Simple

Every shot was fired with a slightly different degree of rifle cant

Since there is no bubble level, there is no reference to insure every shot is fired with the rifle in the same position

It’s actually a perfect example of why a correctly installed bubble level is critical for long range shooting

Notice how “groups” on the target get bigger as the “range” increases? Small changes in cant result in big changes at long range

The target is also a perfect example of why the scope should be mounted so the reticle moves perfectly vertically to the centerline of the bore

Assuming the vertical line is plumb, notice as more correction is dialed how the “groups” veer to the right of the line

The scope is turned in the rings

(To the left, counterclockwise)

When doing a TTT, it’s pretty easy to align the reticle with the plumb line, which mitigates any horizontal POI variation at a fixed distance that is caused by a scope not being mounted square with the bore.

Exactly. Plumb is plumb.

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Originally Posted by horse1

I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

This thread wasn't started by, and isn't about, anyone actually going out and shooting for record in competition with witnesses and actual scores.

Once you realize that, it becomes clear. Crystal clear.

Because you either believe these guys, who do it for record on the clock:

or a guy who says that the scopes they all use suck and that the chinesium stuff he shills is better, but he doesn't actually demonstrate that it is in any meaningful way....

It's what makes his ball suckers pathetic and this site, in general, hilarious.

Nice list. So if taken as gospel, Leupold and Vortex are better than Nightforce and Kahles?

Originally Posted by Calvin

Nice list. So if taken as gospel, Leupold and Vortex are better than Nightforce and Kahles?

It means more competitors choose those brands for the most demanding LR rifle competition in the world.

Buy what you want because there are many good optics, but anyone pretending Leupold does not build a great scope is lying.

LiL Fish is a Lying Schill with an agenda, always has been.

This is just the most blatant example in a long list.

Originally Posted by goalie

[quote=horse1] Because you either believe these guys, who do it for record on the clock:

or a guy who says that the scopes they all use suck and that the chinesium stuff he shills is better, but he doesn't actually demonstrate that it is in any meaningful way....

It's what makes his ball suckers pathetic and this site, in general, hilarious.

Meh. When I worked @ a gunshop in college (late-90's) I sold an awful lot of Pentax and Nikon scopes that I had little confidence in and really didn't like (poor tracking and too much parallax for me), but, they had a great spiff program for us and so I took the bait/cash. I knew that the folks buying them wouldn't know/couind't tell the diff between really good stuff and what they were buying. Most of them were replacing "blister-pack Marts scopes". The shooters on your PRS list know they don't have to win to stay sponsored, they just have to stay "competitive" enough to allow emotion-promotion to do it's job.

I don't know if I made a point with the above rambling, not sure I even had one.

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Vudoo's are exceedingly straight/concentric. Though the Reupold MK5 doesn't even fhuqking BEGIN to track,it too was but .6 Mil's away from mechanical center,for 50yd zero. While the erector is a horrible fhuqking mess,the reticle was spot on,to it's credit. Hint.

I find much joy in World Class Wares and banging on my 18.5# Vudoo,is never not GOOD times. It will pinpoint mechanical compromise instantly,because it so easy to shoot exceptionally. It would be nice if ruffled pom-pom's and Hurt Feeler Reports could "heal" compromised erectors,but that is not how Reality works,or even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Calvin

Nice list. So if taken as gospel, Leupold and Vortex are better than Nightforce and Kahles?

It means more competitors choose those brands for the most demanding LR rifle competition in the world.

Buy what you want because there are many good optics, but anyone pretending Leupold does not build a great scope is lying.

LiL Fish is a Lying Schill with an agenda, always has been.

This is just the most blatant example in a long list.

As usual, you’re lying. LYING LIARS LIE 🪂

It only means more competitors who create an online gear profile prefer Leupold.

And it is *shill

He would have been further ahead by saying, "The scope won't work because I said so, so I won't buy one"

The half assed, smoke and mirrors test proves nothing, only deceiving the ignorant who drool over his every word anyhow. The very few. HINT

Haven't seen the said scope on the classifieds yet. Because he is a liar, and will continue to use it, because it outperforms the scopes that he attempts to pimp.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

Lol

Its funny to you that oftentimes the rail on a rifle isn't 100% level? That rings aren't always 100% concentric?

I don't have a dog in this tussle but it seems to me that we have on one hand hundreds of world class shooters competing on the highest level choosing a certain brand of equipment essential to their success. On the other hand, we have a Keyboard Karen that has almost 60,000 internet posts, questionable skill, questionable knowledge, and questionable integrity choosing a different brand of equipment. Who to believe... hmmmm.... doesn't seem like a difficult decision at all.

Originally Posted by ttpoz

I don't have a dog in this tussle but it seems to me that we have on one hand hundreds of world class shooters competing on the highest level choosing a certain brand of equipment essential to their success. On the other hand, we have a Keyboard Karen that has almost 60,000 internet posts, questionable skill, questionable knowledge, and questionable integrity choosing a different brand of equipment. Who to believe... hmmmm.... doesn't seem like a difficult decision at all.

To be fair, nobody would touch a Leupold in this sport ten years ago. Discounts, prize tables, and "supporting the sport" has done wonders for their popularity. Kahles has done the same.

I root for Reupold with more enthusiasm,than they do themselves. Hint.

Pardon the reality of wares that exist ladies,as you Pretend aloud. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Go to that yellow website that shows gear and click on actions, be a good starting place to see what the majority are using. Impact Precision way in lead then I think Defiance was next.

I guess us hunters discussing hunting optics should probably know all this lol.

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Go to that yellow website that shows gear and click on actions, be a good starting place to see what the majority are using. Impact Precision way in lead then I think Defiance was next.

I guess us hunters discussing hunting optics should probably know all this lol.

But why? Because its the best for the sport? Or because Impact Precision was started by a competitor and really marketed to the crowd. Popularity doesn't mean best. Flip to a different precision rifle sport: F-Class. No Impact actions to be seen, but lots of BAT, Borden, etc.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

Lol

Its funny to you that oftentimes the rail on a rifle isn't 100% level? That rings aren't always 100% concentric?

Scope mounting 201

First, level the barreled action precisely

Second, mount the scope on the leveled action so that the reticle travels perfectly vertically through its entire range

Simply mounting a scope while looking through it and aligning the vertical crosshair to a plumb line sometimes doesn’t cut it. The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

After this is accomplished and verified, THEN a bubble level is attached to the scope WHILE the action is still perfectly level.

There are different levels of “precision” and they are dependent upon what tools and indicators are used in the process

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

Lol

Its funny to you that oftentimes the rail on a rifle isn't 100% level? That rings aren't always 100% concentric?

Scope mounting 201

First, level the barreled action precisely

Second, mount the scope on the leveled action so that the reticle travels perfectly vertically through its entire range

Simply mounting a scope while looking through it and aligning the vertical crosshair to a plumb line sometimes doesn’t cut it. The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

After this is accomplished and verified, THEN a bubble level is attached to the scope WHILE the action is still perfectly level.

There are different levels of “precision” and they are dependent upon what tools and indicators are used in the process

Is that what your gunsmith explained to you when you picked up your rifle (after dropping it off to get the scope mounted)?

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Go to that yellow website that shows gear and click on actions, be a good starting place to see what the majority are using. Impact Precision way in lead then I think Defiance was next.

I guess us hunters discussing hunting optics should probably know all this lol.

I'd rather see the testing done by a barrel, lathe, lathe-tooling, or measurement devices manufacturer. A gear-list comprised of gear procured at a discount or "free" is far from objective or telling.

Buying the exact rod/reel/line/lure setup Kevin VanDam uses to win a fishing competition doesn't mean I'll win the next one even if I also bought the GPS positions.

Originally Posted by ttpoz

I don't have a dog in this tussle but it seems to me that we have on one hand hundreds of world class shooters competing on the highest level choosing a certain brand of equipment essential to their success. On the other hand, we have a Keyboard Karen that has almost 60,000 internet posts, questionable skill, questionable knowledge, and questionable integrity choosing a different brand of equipment. Who to believe... hmmmm.... doesn't seem like a difficult decision at all.

Don’t forget about all the killing that gets done by the one side of this also, and at ridiculous distances. Captain windbag just yaps and posts pics of things 3’ from his phone.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

Lol

Its funny to you that oftentimes the rail on a rifle isn't 100% level? That rings aren't always 100% concentric?

Scope mounting 201

First, level the barreled action precisely

Second, mount the scope on the leveled action so that the reticle travels perfectly vertically through its entire range

Simply mounting a scope while looking through it and aligning the vertical crosshair to a plumb line sometimes doesn’t cut it. The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

After this is accomplished and verified, THEN a bubble level is attached to the scope WHILE the action is still perfectly level.

There are different levels of “precision” and they are dependent upon what tools and indicators are used in the process

Except you can have a level action and a scope base that isn't at the same time. In fact, once you've mounted a couple hundred, it becomes abundantly clear that that this is the case more often than not, especially on mass-produced actions like Remington 700s.

What you're failing to grasp is that sometimes reticles are canted to the direction of erector travel. You can level all you want, but if they do not match, you will get horizontal drift.

Having shot,bought and got it all...I'll greedily take a scope that tracks,over one which can't,won't and don't. Hint.

Keep filling out Hurt Feeler Reports ladies. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

Lol

Its funny to you that oftentimes the rail on a rifle isn't 100% level? That rings aren't always 100% concentric?

Scope mounting 201

First, level the barreled action precisely

Second, mount the scope on the leveled action so that the reticle travels perfectly vertically through its entire range

Simply mounting a scope while looking through it and aligning the vertical crosshair to a plumb line sometimes doesn’t cut it. The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

After this is accomplished and verified, THEN a bubble level is attached to the scope WHILE the action is still perfectly level.

There are different levels of “precision” and they are dependent upon what tools and indicators are used in the process

Except you can have a level action and a scope base that isn't at the same time. In fact, once you've mounted a couple hundred, it becomes abundantly clear that that this is the case more often than not, especially on mass-produced actions like Remington 700s.

What you're failing to grasp is that sometimes reticles are canted to the direction of erector travel. You can level all you want, but if they do not match, you will get horizontal drift.

His hand holding gunsmith never told him this......

Originally Posted by drop_point

What you're failing to grasp is that sometimes reticles are canted to the direction of erector travel. You can level all you want, but if they do not match, you will get horizontal drift.

I do not fail to grasp that fact. That is why the TRAVEL of the reticle must be perfectly vertical, not the reticle visually

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Go to that yellow website that shows gear and click on actions, be a good starting place to see what the majority are using. Impact Precision way in lead then I think Defiance was next.

I guess us hunters discussing hunting optics should probably know all this lol.

But why? Because its the best for the sport? Or because Impact Precision was started by a competitor and really marketed to the crowd. Popularity doesn't mean best. Flip to a different precision rifle sport: F-Class. No Impact actions to be seen, but lots of BAT, Borden, etc.

No idea, maybe they work? Just thought you didn’t know that you could go see that too. Sure is a ton of discussion here pointing out all the things way past point of diminishing returns regarding hunting in optics. Precision as you pointed out goes well past the scope, what it’s mounted to, how square is the gear, how square is the mounting, endless rabbit holes. Guys actually using it successfully on range in competition and on game afield way past typical long range hunting distances and then keyboard windbags doing neither of those two things bashing said gear...agenda is definitely the answer. How to steal a piece of the pie from the big dogs? That’s one way I guess.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

The rub comes when the reticle won't track in the 'Z' axis (vertical) no matter how it's aligned.

"Oddly" enough,one will never see a Skookum TTT ala Reupold,though there will be piles of Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

What you're failing to grasp is that sometimes reticles are canted to the direction of erector travel. You can level all you want, but if they do not match, you will get horizontal drift.

I do not fail to grasp that fact. That is why the TRAVEL of the reticle must be perfectly vertical, not the reticle visually

No, they both need to be perfectly vertical. You need to be able to both dial and to do holds. You also need to be able to level your bubble level.

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Go to that yellow website that shows gear and click on actions, be a good starting place to see what the majority are using. Impact Precision way in lead then I think Defiance was next.

I guess us hunters discussing hunting optics should probably know all this lol.

But why? Because its the best for the sport? Or because Impact Precision was started by a competitor and really marketed to the crowd. Popularity doesn't mean best. Flip to a different precision rifle sport: F-Class. No Impact actions to be seen, but lots of BAT, Borden, etc.

No idea, maybe they work? Just thought you didn’t know that you could go see that too. Sure is a ton of discussion here pointing out all the things way past point of diminishing returns regarding hunting in optics. Precision as you pointed out goes well past the scope, what it’s mounted to, how square is the gear, how square is the mounting, endless rabbit holes. Guys actually using it successfully on range in competition and on game afield way past typical long range hunting distances and then keyboard windbags doing neither of those two things bashing said gear...agenda is definitely the answer. How to steal a piece of the pie from the big dogs? That’s one way I guess.

Many, many way to skin a cat.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by drop_point

What you're failing to grasp is that sometimes reticles are canted to the direction of erector travel. You can level all you want, but if they do not match, you will get horizontal drift.

I do not fail to grasp that fact. That is why the TRAVEL of the reticle must be perfectly vertical, not the reticle visually

No, they both need to be perfectly vertical. You need to be able to both dial and to do holds. You also need to be able to level your bubble level.

In a perfect world

The vast majority are so close that any cant isn’t perceivable under field conditions

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

The rub comes when the reticle won't track in the 'Z' axis (vertical) no matter how it's aligned.

It's also intellesting,that the Ebb and Flow of Agg' sizing isn't lineal,in it's dispersion. Oft times on a TTT,Reupolds will cross the plum line both left and right,in patterns that don't repeat. Hint.

This MK5 returned to zero kinda/sorta,but the tracking was soooooooo incredibly fhuqking schitty,as to make RTZ look better(in comparison). A cant on a Skookum erector,will wander from the plum line,but in lineal fashion. Come-ups will be shy,due the nature of a diagnol line being longer than a straight one. This MK5 shot rather proud in it's come-ups and at a modest 20 Mil correction,took a rifle that'll easily shoot in the .2's to 1.5"++. Pretty fhuqking FUNNY schit,even though it's my $1600 which failed MISERABLY. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by horse1

Buying the exact rod/reel/line/lure setup Kevin VanDam uses to win a fishing competition doesn't mean I'll win the next one even if I also bought the GPS positions.

While true, it would also be true that Kev wouldn't be competing with his rig if it didn't work well for the competitions he enters (and wins).

If the chink scopes Stick shills were demonstrably better mechanically than the scopes on that list, the people on that list would use them.

But, they don't.

But, hey, he's got a LOT of the stuff he shills, and quantity has it's own quality.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by goalie

If the chink scopes Stick shills were demonstrably better mechanically than the scopes on that list, the people on that list would use them.

But, they don't.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

They only use those scopes because they’re free or they lied about using them

😂🤣😂😝😂😆😝🤣

The Hurt Feeler Reports by Professional Victims,are plum soothing. Hint.

Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by drop_point

But why? Because its the best for the sport? Or because Impact Precision was started by a competitor and really marketed to the crowd. Popularity doesn't mean best. Flip to a different precision rifle sport: F-Class. No Impact actions to be seen, but lots of BAT, Borden, etc.

Because they work well enough to win. Stuff has to perform at a certain level to win in competition. "Better" doesn't matter after you reach a certain level of "good."

Here we have someone saying that the scopes used by high level, proven long-range shooters don't meet basic minimum standards to function, let alone win. His assertion that the scopes used to actually win PRS events "suck" and don't track reliably is backed up by, well, the fact that he says so.

As stated earlier, it's an easy choice: believe the people actually hitting long range targets in competition or the guy who talks a game almost as big as his neck.....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

If the chink scopes Stick shills were demonstrably better mechanically than the scopes on that list, the people on that list would use them.

But, they don't.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

They only use those scopes because they’re free or they lied about using them

😂🤣😂😝😂😆😝🤣

There is money to be made in Schillin optic. Especially new to market ChiCom optics.

But it's sorta hard to fake winning at a major competition.

Oh the irony

Originally Posted by Big Stick

The Hurt Feeler Reports by Professional Victims,are plum soothing. Hint.

Hey, Mr lying 5-chin having fatass, you're so good at posting screenshots, maybe post one of these supposed "hurt feelers reports" that don't exist.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

But why? Because its the best for the sport? Or because Impact Precision was started by a competitor and really marketed to the crowd. Popularity doesn't mean best. Flip to a different precision rifle sport: F-Class. No Impact actions to be seen, but lots of BAT, Borden, etc.

Because they work well enough to win. Stuff has to perform at a certain level to win in competition. "Better" doesn't matter after you reach a certain level of "good."

Here we have someone saying that the scopes used by high level, proven long-range shooters don't meet basic minimum standards to function, let alone win. His assertion that the scopes used to actually win PRS events "suck" and don't track reliably is backed up by, well, the fact that he says so.

As stated earlier, it's an easy choice: believe the people actually hitting long range targets in competition or the guy who talks a game almost as big as his neck.....

It gets chosen, largely through marketing. The list doesn't comprise what "winners" use, rather a member survey. Lots of "monkey see, monkey do".

I don't think there are many folks using a Mark 5 7-35x or whatever model it is on this forum to hunt with. Meanwhile, we don't see any of the VX-3, VX-5, or VX-6 scopes in the winners circle, either.

I have more Leupold scopes than any other brand, but the biggest hunks of garbage I've owned also came from them, too. Leupold CS was terrible.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

If the chink scopes Stick shills were demonstrably better mechanically than the scopes on that list, the people on that list would use them.

But, they don't.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

They only use those scopes because they’re free or they lied about using them

😂🤣😂😝😂😆😝🤣

There is money to be made in Schillin optic. Especially new to market ChiCom optics.

But it's sorta hard to fake winning at a major competition.

And money to be made "Schillin" those out of Oregon, too?

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

If the chink scopes Stick shills were demonstrably better mechanically than the scopes on that list, the people on that list would use them.

But, they don't.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

They only use those scopes because they’re free or they lied about using them

😂🤣😂😝😂😆😝🤣

There is money to be made in Schillin optic. Especially new to market ChiCom optics.

But it's sorta hard to fake winning at a major competition.

And money to be made "Schillin" those out of Oregon, too?

Can you imagine what his grocery bill is? Reupold must pay pretty good..

Have your MK4 FFP Spotter Puke for the 3rd time and Reupold will "heal" your erector. Hint.

Initial Puke. Hint.

Hurt Feeler Report. Hint.

Professional Victim. Hint.

Pardon wares that exist,as you gals "live" vicariously. Hint.

To be continued. hint.................

There are more than a few team shooters for various scope companies, in PRS.

--Tangent Theta has at least four shooters - Austin Orgain, Justin Watts, Tate Streater, Clay Blackletter.

--Leupold has several, including - Matt Alwine, Nick Gadarzi, Jon Pynch. And I believe several more.

--Vortex and USO have team shooters as well. Not sure about ZCO.

I would not consider any sponsored shooter an impartial person, when it comes to scope recommendations. They might be unbiased, but are obviously getting compensated in some sort of way.

An accomplished shooter that purchases their own scope, with no affiliations, could be a different story. But it seems that such a shooter is desirable as a brand ambassador!

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

If the chink scopes Stick shills were demonstrably better mechanically than the scopes on that list, the people on that list would use them.

But, they don't.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

They only use those scopes because they’re free or they lied about using them

😂🤣😂😝😂😆😝🤣

There is money to be made in Schillin optic. Especially new to market ChiCom optics.

But it's sorta hard to fake winning at a major competition.

And money to be made "Schillin" those out of Oregon, too?

Can you imagine what his grocery bill is? Reupold must pay pretty good..

I shoot what I want,when I want and if something intrigues me,I simply procure and flog on it. Hint.

I shot my first Reupold right at 50yrs ago. Like everyone I knew,worked and grew up with,we all killed our first everythings with Reupold. They were simply ingrained in the times of the culture and did a fair to middlin' job,for most. Since that time,many corners have been cut and they've stuck toes in waters well over their head. That is rather unfortunate. Hint.

So fully KNOWING better,I simply scooped the "heralded" MK5 HD 3.6-18x Mil/Mil #180726,hoped for the best,but would never have wagered in it's favor. Atop a World Class Rifle,it did what Reupold now excels at and simply fhuqking failed MISERABLY. This Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,takes "dismal" to new depths and is HILARIOUS,it is sooooooo fhuqking bad. Hint.

It took a rifle that Agg's in the .2's,to 1-1/2"++. Hint.

The newest AI in the larder,will wear a 5-20x HD Mil/Mil LitBitch,because they are simply fhuqking stellar mechanically. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by 4th_point

There are more than a few team shooters for various scope companies, in PRS.

--Tangent Theta has at least four shooters - Austin Orgain, Justin Watts, Tate Streater, Clay Blackletter.

--Leupold has several, including - Matt Alwine, Nick Gadarzi, Jon Pynch. And I believe several more.

--Vortex and USO have team shooters as well. Not sure about ZCO.

I would not consider any sponsored shooter an impartial person, when it comes to scope recommendations. They might be unbiased, but are obviously getting compensated in some sort of way.

An accomplished shooter that purchases their own scope, with no affiliations, could be a different story. But it seems that such a shooter is desirable as a brand ambassador!

The PRS stat shown was just the number of competitors in the entire PRS and Leupold was the most popular scope in the most demanding LR shooting sport.

Point being that LiL Fish's epic Leupold struggles are just made up bull shit. This one is just much more blatent and the Fan Bois are going through a the begining stages of Grief. Acceptance is on the way, give them a bit of time.

Lots of good scopes out there and Leupold makes a lot of the good scopes.

What you never see is Leupold guys running down other brands, except on Country of Origin. That's more about being a good American.

Pardon reality. Hint.

Not to slight a Professional Victim. Hint.

Or Snake Oil Salesman. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Reality:

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My 16x,made it beyond 20K,before the A/O puked.

Beings it failed,it ain't in the above tally and it is in fact,the only Leupie I've crashed.

Broke a 6x42 on installation,but I knowed better(DD's on skewed bridge height,less eccentrics)..................

Wow
Lying +P

Bwahaha, that would have been nearly as satisfying as touching off on a 6.5 Creedmoor for the first time. 😂

How come my words are so POWERFUL? Hint.

MK4 M3 6x's have played rather nice. Hint.

Recipes from decades ago,are of little merit. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't kill it wit a standad duplex,it ain't gonna get killed with ANYTHING else.

Leupie will of course continue to get my loot.................

Originally Posted by drop_point

It gets chosen, largely through marketing. The list doesn't comprise what "winners" use, rather a member survey. Lots of "monkey see, monkey do".

Champion at a National Match
Runner-up at a National Match
2 top 10 finishes at same National Match
3 top 20 finishes at National Matches

Two good friends have done as well or better with Leupold Scopes

Winning

Originally Posted by 4th_point

.

An accomplished shooter that purchases their own scope, with no affiliations, could be a different story. But it seems that such a shooter is desirable as a brand ambassador!

All of mine were purchased by me.

Like JB stated, there are a lot of good scopes out there and Leupold is one of them

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Vudoo's are exceedingly straight/concentric. Though the Reupold MK5 doesn't even fhuqking BEGIN to track,it too was but .6 Mil's away from mechanical center,for 50yd zero. While the erector is a horrible fhuqking mess,the reticle was spot on,to it's credit. Hint.

I find much joy in World Class Wares and banging on my 18.5# Vudoo,is never not GOOD times. It will pinpoint mechanical compromise instantly,because it so easy to shoot exceptionally. It would be nice if ruffled pom-pom's and Hurt Feeler Reports could "heal" compromised erectors,but that is not how Reality works,or even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

I like Tasco World Class scopes myself 👍

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't kill it wit a standad duplex,it ain't gonna get killed with ANYTHING else.

Leupie will of course continue to get my loot.................

Some people grow throughout their life. You know, like your waist and neck girth. Only they grow from experiences...first hand...not around the campfire with sf dudes telling war stories.

Originally Posted by moosemike

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Vudoo's are exceedingly straight/concentric. Though the Reupold MK5 doesn't even fhuqking BEGIN to track,it too was but .6 Mil's away from mechanical center,for 50yd zero. While the erector is a horrible fhuqking mess,the reticle was spot on,to it's credit. Hint.

I find much joy in World Class Wares and banging on my 18.5# Vudoo,is never not GOOD times. It will pinpoint mechanical compromise instantly,because it so easy to shoot exceptionally. It would be nice if ruffled pom-pom's and Hurt Feeler Reports could "heal" compromised erectors,but that is not how Reality works,or even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

I like Tasco World Class scopes myself 👍

Any luv' for......

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Tasco World Class Plus??

Merry Christmas, Guys!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

GWB

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by moosemike

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by horse1

It'd be interesting to see say 20 actions w/integrated scope mounts and 20 produced for bolt-on scope mounts and see which would consistently put a mounted scope the "most-square" to all of the planes/centerlines that matter.

Then of course the next rabbit-hole would be which base, which rings, and which combinations thereof were the "squarest".

Just intellectual curiosity though. I'm not patient or meticulous enough to do any of it. Nor am I detail-oriented enough behind the gun for any of it to matter to me. I have a hard time concentrating on cant, wind, mirage, squeeze, and follow-through for 20-shots at a club F-Class match.

Vudoo's are exceedingly straight/concentric. Though the Reupold MK5 doesn't even fhuqking BEGIN to track,it too was but .6 Mil's away from mechanical center,for 50yd zero. While the erector is a horrible fhuqking mess,the reticle was spot on,to it's credit. Hint.

I find much joy in World Class Wares and banging on my 18.5# Vudoo,is never not GOOD times. It will pinpoint mechanical compromise instantly,because it so easy to shoot exceptionally. It would be nice if ruffled pom-pom's and Hurt Feeler Reports could "heal" compromised erectors,but that is not how Reality works,or even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

I like Tasco World Class scopes myself 👍

Any luv' for......

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Tasco World Class Plus??

Merry Christmas, Guys!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

GWB

👍

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

LOL.

What a cherry picking azzhat are you.

Leupold is well represented at that shooting comp.

Lying Liars love to Lie.

And Leupold shooters kicked the shit out of S&B. Not one single finish for that overpriced optic for which you Schill.

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Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

Some similarities to these ones for the top 15 places.

2023 F-Class Nationals F-Open equipment list2023 F-Class Nationals Equipment List [/url

No Leupolds or Barken Arkens. A distinct lack of Hornadys of any flavor or BC as well.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

LOL.

What a cherry picking azzhat are you.

Leupold is well represented at that shooting comp.

Lying Liars love to Lie.

And Leupold shooters kicked the shit out of S&B. Not one single finish for that overpriced optic for which you Schill.

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*shill you heathen

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob, an Internet Rando, contemplating her sad life

The gluckgluck master appears.....

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

No SWFA's ? Those tards obviously don't know shyt from shinola.

The whole damn shtick was a hurt feeler report. Lol

As the Chinese say:

Rying Riar Rarry

These times I equate Leupold with Vortex. Both offer an excellent warranty service!

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

Some similarities to these ones for the top 15 places.

2023 F-Class Nationals F-Open equipment list2023 F-Class Nationals Equipment List (Responses) : Top F-Open

2023 F-Class Nationals FTR equipment list

No Leupolds or Barken Arkens. A distinct lack of Hornadys of any flavor or BC as well.

Of all the comps F Class seems Leupolds weakest place.

Leupold does better in more dynamic comps with movement and lots of dialing to different ranges. In the more static KD types of competition other brand can do pretty well.

I do get a laugh at how Berger is so dominant in any LR shooting competition.

Who was the first guy on this board to shoot Berger Bullets at Long Range?

Yup. THE WIZARD.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

Some similarities to these ones for the top 15 places.

2023 F-Class Nationals F-Open equipment list2023 F-Class Nationals Equipment List (Responses) : Top F-Open

2023 F-Class Nationals FTR equipment list

No Leupolds or Barken Arkens. A distinct lack of Hornadys of any flavor or BC as well.

Yep .
Not one POS loopie in the top 15 at the Fclass nationals.
So sad.
dave

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Yep .
Not one POS loopie in the top 15 at the Fclass nationals.
So sad.
dave

LOL.

How many S&Bs in the top 100?

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

This will result in a horizontal offset that increases with distance.

Absolutely, it will. Providing that means it was also offset to the bore. Which came first? The drift from reticle misalignment to the bore, or the drift from reticle misalignment to the erector?

I’m assuming no misalignment between reticle and erector. Just offset of the bore relative to the reticle/erector axis.

You seem abit sensitive.
I'll leave you with this.

from Lowlight on Snipers Hide.

Every year they seem to get farther and farther away from what made them the company worthy of the reputation they have, which I personally feel is no longer warranted.

The shear number of them we see problems with is staggering, on military weapons systems no less. They seem to be completely out of touch with the shooter, all shooters, Civilian, Law Enforcement, and Military.

Unfortunately people still flock to their products based on the past reputation, regardless of the fact their current products don't hold up to that standard.
LL

dave

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Yep .
Not one POS loopie in the top 15 at the Fclass nationals.
So sad.
dave

LOL.

How many S&Bs in the top 100?

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You have to go all the way to 26th place to find a POS loopie in this sport.
http://www.pa1000yard.com/wo/wotopl...grsc=Group&topct=100&send=Submit
dave

Some similarities to these ones for the top 15 places.

2023 F-Class Nationals F-Open equipment list2023 F-Class Nationals Equipment List [/url

No Leupolds or Barken Arkens. A distinct lack of Hornadys of any flavor or BC as well.

Those F class guys shoot. Thanks for the link. I am rather addicted to Cortina’s YouTube channels at the moment.

Not that it matters to anyone one bit, but so far I see one member here with the actual scope, posting his results.
Everyone else arguing about brands and who shoots what.

Who else here has that exact model scope and can prove him wrong?

Originally Posted by dave7mm

You seem abit sensitive.
I'll leave you with this.

from Lowlight on Snipers Hide.

Every year they seem to get farther and farther away from what made them the company worthy of the reputation they have, which I personally feel is no longer warranted.

The shear number of them we see problems with is staggering, on military weapons systems no less. They seem to be completely out of touch with the shooter, all shooters, Civilian, Law Enforcement, and Military.

Unfortunately people still flock to their products based on the past reputation, regardless of the fact their current products don't hold up to that standard.
LL

dave

LOL. I do hate Lying Liar such as you.

Your best play was probably to punt. You have never done anything of merit regarding scope use on a rifle and an appeal to authority must feel like safe ground to one who can't produce their own results.

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Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

5 yards ? Hell a 150 dollar Vortex would work

Leupold does it’s best work at the 5 yard line. 😂

Drinking nyquil doesn’t make one a scope aficionado.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

There is money to be made in Schillin optic.

Best post of the year. Bet the homo wizard was tanked when he posted this gem. 😂

Originally Posted by drop_point

I don't think there are many folks using a Mark 5 7-35x or whatever model it is on this forum to hunt with.

🤣

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

5 yards ? Hell a 150 dollar Vortex would work

Or iron sights.....lol

Originally Posted by Remington280

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

5 yards ? Hell a 150 dollar Vortex would work

Or iron sights.....lol

It funny how so many don't understand shooting at high speed.

Post up a video of 10 shots groups in 2.5 seconds at 5 yards.

It should be easy.

But you girlz won't because such is far beyond your meager skill.

One can argue back and forth until they are blue in the face about Leupold being this or that !
But what I do know personally is that once I started getting rid of leupolds and switching to swfa scopes life got a lot better and ALOT of weird [bleep] went away.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Remington280

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

5 yards ? Hell a 150 dollar Vortex would work

Or iron sights.....lol

It funny how so many don't understand shooting at high speed.

Post up a video of 10 shots groups in 2.5 seconds at 5 yards.

It should be easy.

But you girlz won't because such is far beyond your meager skill.

For a guy who hunts behind a guide you sure are an arrogant sort.

Sure is nice to sight in a scope at 200 and run some numbers in your ballistic program and have first round hits at 5-6-700 yards

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

For a guy who hunts behind a guide you sure are an arrogant sort.

Where's the guide, dumbshit?

Originally Posted by raghorn

Sure is nice to sight in a scope at 200 and run some numbers in your ballistic program and have first round hits at 5-6-700 yards

Post your results on game.

It'll be fun.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

For a guy who hunts behind a guide you sure are an arrogant sort.

Where's the guide, dumbshit?

lol! He’s running the camera! Turn around.

Originally Posted by qwacker

Leupold does it’s best work at the 5 yard line. 😂

Drinking nyquil doesn’t make one a scope aficionado.

Originally Posted by pathwanderer69

For a guy who hunts behind a guide you sure are an arrogant sort.

The anonymous internet bozos speak!

😂👍🏼😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where's the guide, dumbshit?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

lol! He’s running the camera! Turn around.

Just like here, dumbshit?

Out of all the most popular scope brands used in PRS which brand spends the most on marketing and advertising? That fact cannot be overlooked when arguing about something as subjective as what scope is best for long range shooting since a lot of a product’s appeal, even with PRS guys, has to do with perception and marketing is meant to form those perceptions.

I’m not a Leupold hater, actually I can’t recall any scope brands that I “hate”, but admittedly I’m currently only using 2 Leupolds on a couple of AR’s but they’re only the basic VX-II’s and they’ve done fine with the light use they’ve seen.

What I find telling (in a good way) is the popularity of the lesser known scopes that are purpose built for a specific application and their advertising campaign is almost exclusively through word of mouth like Tangent Theta. For a scope to be reliable, clear and durable enough for its intended consumers, NOT offer any financial savings over “name brands” and to be considered one of the best scopes on the market WITHOUT actually marketing or advertising heavily says a lot!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by raghorn

Sure is nice to sight in a scope at 200 and run some numbers in your ballistic program and have first round hits at 5-6-700 yards

Post your results on game.

It'll be fun.

Here is one for you. Just over 560 yards. 1 shot. Winchester Model 70, 270 WCF, 130 grain Barnes TSX, and no erector moved. And get this, no guide. You guys go on like this stuff is an art form. Give me a break.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where's the guide, dumbshit?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

lol! He’s running the camera! Turn around.

Just like here, dumbshit?

Do you have any pictures more recent than 15 years old? lol.

LOL.

So you now admit you're a liar when you lied about me hunting behind a guide.

Lying Liars always lie.

Nice try.

How many Jack Asses can you fit in one photo?

ONLY Reupold,can take a World Class Rifle that shoots in the .2's,to 1-1/2"++. Hint.

Pardon reality. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..................

Originally Posted by The Last LiL Fish Fan Boi reading this thread

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by raghorn

Sure is nice to sight in a scope at 200 and run some numbers in your ballistic program and have first round hits at 5-6-700 yards

Post your results on game.

It'll be fun.

Yea
It would be fun!
But has nothing to do with Leupold tracking problems.
I’ve killed a [bleep] ton of animals with a lot of different scopes when I was young a [bleep] ton with a Bushnell and then a Tasco world class.
As I could afford higher priced scopes I bought and used higher priced scopes.
Pentax, Burris, Nikon, Leupold , others I’ve forgotten about.
Went down the road of Swarovski, Kales, S&B, Nightforce Zeiss etc .
Think the most I ever spent on scopes at one time was a 17K order from Doug.
All the while truck loads of animals died with them all!
What I did find out is that most scopes of all makers track for [bleep].
Plum amazing that one can buy a 3x9 swfa and beat the [bleep] out of almost everything costing 3x as much.
And don’t even mention the fixed 6and 10 at $300 bucks.
Whether you me or anyone else does or does not like it don’t change the facts.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Yea
It would be fun!
But has nothing to do with Leupold tracking problems.
I’ve killed a [bleep] ton of animals with a lot of different scopes when I was young a [bleep] ton with a Bushnell and then a Tasco world class.
As I could afford higher priced scopes I bought and used higher priced scopes.
Pentax, Burris, Nikon, Leupold , others I’ve forgotten about.
Went down the road of Swarovski, Kales, S&B, Nightforce Zeiss etc .
Think the most I ever spent on scopes at one time was a 17K order from Doug.
All the while truck loads of animals died with them all!
What I did find out is that most scopes of all makers track for [bleep].
Plum amazing that one can buy a 3x9 swfa and beat the [bleep] out of almost everything costing 3x as much.
And don’t even mention the fixed 6and 10 at $300 bucks.
Whether you me or anyone else does or does not like it don’t change the facts.

Your pictures are still not loading, Internet Rando.

Here is a fun one. This one with a 7.5lb 30-06. And a 6x scope. Erector again stayed static even though the shot was closer to 500 than 400. The funnest part is…..You guessed it. No guide, no GIF.

You should quit acting like this is a special kinda hunting that requires 12 lb rifles, bipods, and horrible looking stocks.

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Here is a fun one. This one with a 7.5lb 30-06. And a 6x scope. Erector again stayed static even though the shot was closer to 500 than 400. The funnest part is…..You guessed it. No guide, no GIF.

You should quit acting like this is a special kinda hunting that requires 12 lb rifles, bipods, and horrible looking stocks.

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Kewl. Internet Randos Lie again.

You stole a picture from the internet and blurred the faces.

This is how the big boys post pictures.

Laffin
It’s always fun having two rifles with leupolds on both.
Both shooting the same BC bullet at the same speed and your drop cards don’t match for [bleep].
BTW, I didn’t learn that on the internet.
I learned it from shooting my own gear.
You asked for pics
I’ll post you some fresh ones once the weather calms down of current rifle/scope setups.
Don’t hold your breath waiting to see if there’s a Leupold in the bunch cause you’ll die.
And I’d hate to see that happen as I kind enjoy reading your stuff sometimes.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Here is a fun one. This one with a 7.5lb 30-06. And a 6x scope. Erector again stayed static even though the shot was closer to 500 than 400. The funnest part is…..You guessed it. No guide, no GIF.

You should quit acting like this is a special kinda hunting that requires 12 lb rifles, bipods, and horrible looking stocks.

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Kewl. Internet Randos Lie again.

You stole a picture from the internet and blurred the faces.

This is how the big boys post pictures.

Posting pictures of your guide isn’t helping your case.

I also forgot to mention that my tag was unlimited over the counter. lol.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This is how the big boys post pictures.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Posting pictures of your guide isn’t helping your case.

Well he used my rifle, rode my mule, followed me up the mountain, and I found the sheep for him.

Why not include him in the picture? I am not the Internet Rando who steals pictures and blots out faces.

John, get off that high Mule. Here is a 16 year old girl doing more than you ever will. No GIF required. Be glad for what you have done, but quit crapping on everyone like a spoiled child. It’s unbecoming a 60 plus year old man.

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76

John, get off that high Mule. Here is a 16 year old girl doing more than you ever will. No GIF required. Be glad for what you have done, but quit crapping on everyone like a spoiled child. It’s unbecoming a 60 plus year old man.

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LOL.

Now you're hiding behind a 16yr old girl?

You went after me about following a guide and when I stuffed that down your gullet you try to hide behind blurrred faces, stolen pictures, and a 16 yr old girl.

Internet Randos are always going to do Internet Rando things.

Beautiful WT….
What state?

Alberta

When's that scope going up for sale John Jr?

Originally Posted by Kimber7man

Not that it matters to anyone one bit, but so far I see one member here with the actual scope, posting his results.
Everyone else arguing about brands and who shoots what.

Who else here has that exact model scope and can prove him wrong?

This ^^^^

Comparatively speaking, I'm a mere neophyte here but do know since replacing every Loopie, I have way less 'excitement' at the range. It is rather nice to dial x clicks and the bullet moves said number of units. And then there always the scope tap between adjustments that I miss. And resighting every 6 months. And weirdness between shots. Wondering if my scope needs adjusted from the truck ride to the range (bumpy goat path road).

Tis sad to see what has happened to Leupold, but I'm perfectly happy with my NFs. Prob gonna try a Trijicon this winter, mostly because of the short NF mounting distance.

Plus if you leave him alone, hopefully he'll flog on the Treegikon a bit.

Carry on.

Originally Posted by Remington280

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

5 yards ? Hell a 150 dollar Vortex would work

Or iron sights.....lol

Brother John,

Can you do that same drill from prone?

Originally Posted by raghorn

One can argue back and forth until they are blue in the face about Leupold being this or that !
But what I do know personally is that once I started getting rid of leupolds and switching to swfa scopes life got a lot better and ALOT of weird [bleep] went away.

Bigstick always says.
Not hard to tell those that shoot.
From those that don't.

dave

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

This will result in a horizontal offset that increases with distance.

Absolutely, it will. Providing that means it was also offset to the bore. Which came first? The drift from reticle misalignment to the bore, or the drift from reticle misalignment to the erector?

I’m assuming no misalignment between reticle and erector. Just offset of the bore relative to the reticle/erector axis.

Problem with lots of Leupolds is that is what I've seen, reticle cant in relation to the erector.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

That whitetail! ❤️❤️

Great pict.

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Originally Posted by raghorn

One can argue back and forth until they are blue in the face about Leupold being this or that !
But what I do know personally is that once I started getting rid of leupolds and switching to swfa scopes life got a lot better and ALOT of weird [bleep] went away.

Bigstick always says.
Not hard to tell those that shoot.
From those that don't.

dave

I fired 6 shots last month. And killed six deer. Four of them while looking through Leupold scopes. They seem to be working OK for me.

Originally Posted by SKane

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

That whitetail! ❤️❤️

Great pict.

You aren't joking Scott!

Pretty cool the young lady hammered it with a 7 Rem Mag, that kicks way too much for most grown me to hit a barn from the inside

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Here is a fun one. This one with a 7.5lb 30-06. And a 6x scope. Erector again stayed static even though the shot was closer to 500 than 400. The funnest part is…..You guessed it. No guide, no GIF.

You should quit acting like this is a special kinda hunting that requires 12 lb rifles, bipods, and horrible looking stocks.

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Awesome pic.

If you really want to find out, (most don't really want to know and would rather argue about it), either build or buy a scope checker like this one I whittled up. Every one of mine gets checked out of the box for tracking and RTZ after power changes if it's a variable. If that's ok, it goes on and recoil tells the rest of the tale. You can test scopes side by side with a known good one on a real deal good rifle or bolt it to this plate and that goes on a bench top.

It's Christmas Eve. Spend it with people you care about.

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Al, I always appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience. Merry Christmas!

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

If you really want to find out, (most don't really want to know and would rather argue about it) build (or buy) a scope checker like this one I whittled up. Every one of mine gets checked out of the box for tracking and RTZ after power changes if it's a variable. If that's ok, it goes on and recoil tells the rest of the tale. You can test scopes side by side with a known good one on a real deal good rifle or bolt it to this plate and that goes on a bench top.

It's Christmas Eve. Spend it with people you care about.

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Looks great.

Can you post a picture of what you look at through the scope to test those parameters please?

Al,
I made up this top for an old front rest, works well. Weighs 17# so it sits still while flogging turrets.
I did remove about 2” of the stem since those pix were taken. It is nice to not have to guess….

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On the not high end Leupold's I used, recoil+windage adjustment was problematic. Everything went to hell when I made windage adjustments.

I really want to get some higher end leupolds, but think I will continue to hold off.

Sincerely,

‘Internet Rando. 😂

Originally Posted by Calvin

On the not high end Leupold's I used, recoil+windage adjustment was problematic. Everything went to hell when I made windage adjustments.

I really want to get some higher end leupolds, but think I will continue to hold off.

Sincerely,

‘Internet Rando. 😂

Stop. Everyone knows leupold is the best money can buy....lol

Thanks , Brother Al. At least we have ONE member knowledgeable about testing optics besides Larry.

Originally Posted by hangunnr

Al,
I made up this top for an old front rest, works well. Weighs 17# so it sits still while flogging turrets.
I did remove about 2” of the stem since those pix were taken. It is nice to not have to guess….

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Nicely done, sir.

If I was charging $1,079 for a vx3hd that costs $599 everywhere else and suckers were willing to pay it, I’d be on here fervently defending them too.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by Calvin

On the not high end Leupold's I used, recoil+windage adjustment was problematic. Everything went to hell when I made windage adjustments.

I really want to get some higher end leupolds, but think I will continue to hold off.

Sincerely,

‘Internet Rando. 😂

Stop. Everyone knows leupold is the best money can buy....lol

I will admit I saw a well known shooter shoot tiny groups on You-Tube and then stretched it out with an older leupold with target turrets. when he made his windage adjustments he tapped the target turret with the cap. Maybe I didn't know the secret tap.

Originally Posted by Calvin

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by Calvin

On the not high end Leupold's I used, recoil+windage adjustment was problematic. Everything went to hell when I made windage adjustments.

I really want to get some higher end leupolds, but think I will continue to hold off.

Sincerely,

‘Internet Rando. 😂

Stop. Everyone knows leupold is the best money can buy....lol

I will admit I saw a well known shooter shoot tiny groups on You-Tube and then stretched it out with an older leupold with target turrets. when he made his windage adjustments he tapped the target turret with the cap. Maybe I didn't know the secret tap.

Just a little tap-tap-taparoo...

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Looks great. Can you post a picture of what you look at through the scope to test those parameters please?

It's similar to 'Stick's test target but with 1" grid squares....think of Christmas wrapping paper that has 1" squares on the back side as a cutting guide. The grid squares make it easy to mark the advertised adjustment values off the vertical plumb line and see how a scope correlates.

A good example is a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18X44 that was tested. By the grid, the advertised 1/4" adjustments are more like between 3/8" and 1/2" on both w/e. Testing on the owners 300WSM hunting rig confirmed that.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

If I was charging $1,079 for a vx3hd that costs $599 everywhere else and suckers were willing to pay it, I’d be on here fervently defending them too.

Don’t hate, Brother Jack

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Looks great. Can you post a picture of what you look at through the scope to test those parameters please?

It's similar to 'Stick's test target but with 1" grid squares....think of Christmas wrapping paper that has 1" squares on the back side as a cutting guide. The grid squares make it easy to mark the advertised adjustment values off the vertical plumb line and see how a scope correlates.

A good example is a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18X44 that was tested. By the grid, the advertised 1/4" adjustments are more like between 3/8" and 1/2" on both w/e. Testing on the owners 300WSM hunting rig confirmed that.

Thank you ,Brother Al. The masses need educating.

Hangunnr,

I’m stealing that idea. Thanks!!

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Thanks , Brother Al. At least we have ONE member knowledgeable about testing optics besides Larry.

This stuff isn't that hard. You know, regular people put this stuff together and take it apart at the scope makers.

Start by forgetting any percieved 'facts' and let the results show you what's what. Last week, I took apart a 6X scope that most would say is a junk brand. It had some fungus on an inner lens that cleaned up nicely. The W/E adjustment method was surprisingly stout and the erector tube had a nice pivoting gimble arrangement with no front-back slop. I reset the parallax to 200 yards and will shoot it after Christmas to see how it does.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

If I was charging $1,079 for a vx3hd that costs $599 everywhere else and suckers were willing to pay it, I’d be on here fervently defending them too.

Con artists behave that way. Play with a scammer on the phone next time. Watch how angry they get.

Thanks for posting on the scope checker... Am I correct in assuming the second slave scope is just to verify the fixture hasn't moved while adjusting the test scope?

I have also heard over the years that when making adjustments in the direction that the spring is pushing the reticle away, that you should go past the intended correction and dial back into the compression direction to mitigate any "stiction" that prevented accurate travel. Have you ever tested that on your checker?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

If I was charging $1,079 for a vx3hd that costs $599 everywhere else and suckers were willing to pay it, I’d be on here fervently defending them too.

Con artists behave that way. Play with a scammer on the phone next time. Watch how angry they get.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

If you really want to find out, (most don't really want to know and would rather argue about it) build (or buy) a scope checker like this one I whittled up. Every one of mine gets checked out of the box for tracking and RTZ after power changes if it's a variable. If that's ok, it goes on and recoil tells the rest of the tale. You can test scopes side by side with a known good one on a real deal good rifle or bolt it to this plate and that goes on a bench top.

It's Christmas Eve. Spend it with people you care about.

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with the precision you play with in mind what Scopes in your experience make the better list and what Scopes make the not so good list as a general rule..

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Looks great. Can you post a picture of what you look at through the scope to test those parameters please?

It's similar to 'Stick's test target but with 1" grid squares....think of Christmas wrapping paper that has 1" squares on the back side as a cutting guide. The grid squares make it easy to mark the advertised adjustment values off the vertical plumb line and see how a scope correlates.

No picture of the target with the markings?

So you’re only able to test MOA reticles and scopes?

What distance from the scope do you set the “target”?

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

It's similar to 'Stick's test target but with 1" grid squares....think of Christmas wrapping paper that has 1" squares on the back side as a cutting guide. The grid squares make it easy to mark the advertised adjustment values off the vertical plumb line and see how a scope correlates.
.

Al
I do alot of load development at 500 yards.
Couple years ago on the way to my test range got about half way there and remembered I didn't have the paper I usually have.. crap.
In the middle of July in the middle of nowhere is a Dollar General. I pop in and find of all things Christmas wrapping paper.
Santa clauses on one side and the 1 inch grid in white on the other. Just as you described.
Grid showed up just fine on my target vision camera.
Worked great..

dave

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Thanks , Brother Al. At least we have ONE member knowledgeable about testing optics besides Larry.

This stuff isn't that hard. You know, regular people put this stuff together and take it apart at the scope makers.

Start by forgetting any percieved 'facts' and let the results show you what's what. Last week, I took apart a 6X scope that most would say is a junk brand. It had some fungus on an inner lens that cleaned up nicely. The W/E adjustment method was surprisingly stout and the erector tube had a nice pivoting gimble arrangement with no front-back slop. I reset the parallax to 200 yards and will shoot it after Christmas to see how it does.

Al;
Good morning to you sir, I hope that this Christmas Eve morning finds you and those you love well.

Thanks much to you and handgunnr for showing the scope testing jigs you've made up, it's given me a few ideas to refine the apparatus I fabricobbled together to test if used scope we pick up will track - or not as is sometimes the case.

Your quote that I've put in bold reminds me of something my late Father used to say to me, especially when I was younger and wasn't sure about trying to fix something on a dirt bike or gun I had apart.

Not to say I was or still am always successful in my repair efforts, but its always an education.

All the best to you all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Dwayne

If you’re going to go to the trouble of making a fixture to simply hold a scope, why not make a fixture to hold a barreled action AND a scope?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

If you’re going to go to the trouble of making a fixture to simply hold a scope, why not make a fixture to hold a barreled action AND a scope?

Because making one with just a rail to use testing a scope is exponentially easier than fabrication of any even semi-universal action jig?

Or you could just C-clamp it to the merry-go-round at the local playground.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

If you’re going to go to the trouble of making a fixture to simply hold a scope, why not make a fixture to hold a barreled action AND a scope?

Because making one with just a rail to use testing a scope is exponentially easier than fabrication of any even semi-universal action jig?

Probably, but if one is so interested enough to go to the work of making the scope fixture and cares about scope functionality, it would follow that they would be concerned about mounting a scope on a rifle with the same care

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

If I was charging $1,079 for a vx3hd that costs $599 everywhere else and suckers were willing to pay it, I’d be on here fervently defending them too.

Con artists behave that way. Play with a scammer on the phone next time. Watch how angry they get.

Al, thanks for the good laugh, that is absolutely hilarious.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

If you’re going to go to the trouble of making a fixture to simply hold a scope, why not make a fixture to hold a barreled action AND a scope?

Because making one with just a rail to use testing a scope is exponentially easier than fabrication of any even semi-universal action jig?

Probably, but if one is so interested enough to go to the work of making the scope fixture and cares about scope functionality, it would follow that they would be concerned about mounting a scope on a rifle with the same care

That has nothing to do with one's fabrication capacity. One would be easy on my shop, the other not so much. It has nothing to do with what I "want" to do. Making a jig to check a scope's tracking with a welder and some time is easy for anyone with a welder.

Not being able to whip out an action jig in your shop in an hour doesn't mean you shouldn't whip out a scope specific jig.

I've learned a lot reading this thread. Some of it important and the rest, the "fine art of one-upmanship".

Shooting live ammo,ain't as scary as it sounds. Not all wares are equal,nor even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.........

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

If you’re going to go to the trouble of making a fixture to simply hold a scope, why not make a fixture to hold a barreled action AND a scope?

Because making one with just a rail to use testing a scope is exponentially easier than fabrication of any even semi-universal action jig?

Probably, but if one is so interested enough to go to the work of making the scope fixture and cares about scope functionality, it would follow that they would be concerned about mounting a scope on a rifle with the same care

I agree with Rick. Static testing a scope on its own is good for seeing if it's worth mounting in the first place; however, in a lot of cases, the scope trouble is caused or exacerbated by the way its mounted. Therefore, testing a scope after it's mounted to the gun on which it's going to be used offers much more utility. Likewise, getting a scope squared up correctly in the first place saves a lot of time and ammo when doing TTT and other types of actual shooting/testing to make sure a rig is RTG.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Or you could just C-clamp it to the merry-go-round at the local playground.

Nice. One of the main reasons I say static scope testing tales lead to some of the best optics threads.

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Or you could just C-clamp it to the merry-go-round at the local playground.

Nice. One of the main reasons I say static scope testing tales lead to some of the best optics threads.

I need to build a micro-adjust jig to zero out the coriolis effect of a static tall target test depending on whether I'm shooting N, S, E, or W. I mean the target isn't even located where you see it, it's moved by the time you see it. You can't shoot a TTT where the target is, you have to shoot it where it's going to be.

I'm surprised none of you even realize that all you're ever seeing through the scope is where the target was. Good Greif.

Most of the time, when I pull the trigger where the target was and where it is relative to me are the same. Unless you’re observing from off planet?

Not as nice as Al’s, but a static rest is pretty easy to build. 3 legs and a Davidson or Picatinny base mounted to a flat surface and you can tell if a scope is a POS before you bother mounting it. Does the reticle move with the clicks? Does it freeze and then drop after 4 clicks? Etc. This (or a collimator) also tell you if unsaddled with every variable that a rifle, mounting, or conditions -does this scope track accurately? is the reticle canted from the adjustments?

If it tracks accurately you have a baseline—the scope is capable of aiming a rifle accurately. Then introduce mounting, recoil and all the other [bleep] and see if it holds up, or try to figure out where you [bleep] up.

I would blame the scope last

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Originally Posted by tucsonan

Not as nice as Al’s, but a static rest is pretty easy to build. 3 legs and a Davidson or Picatinny base mounted to a flat surface and you can tell if a scope is a POS before you bother mounting it. Does the reticle move with the clicks? Does it freeze and then drop after 4 clicks? Etc. This (or a collimator) also tell you if unsaddled with every variable that a rifle, mounting, or conditions -does this scope track accurately? is the reticle canted from the adjustments?

If it tracks accurately you have a baseline—the scope is capable of aiming a rifle accurately. Then introduce mounting, recoil and all the other [bleep] and see if it holds up, or try to figure out where you [bleep] up.

I would blame the scope last

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Great example. 👍-Al

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by drop_point

If the reticle is plumb to a plumb-bob, it doesn't matter if the scope was mounted canted in the rings.

This will result in a horizontal offset that increases with distance.

Absolutely, it will. Providing that means it was also offset to the bore. Which came first? The drift from reticle misalignment to the bore, or the drift from reticle misalignment to the erector?

I’m assuming no misalignment between reticle and erector. Just offset of the bore relative to the reticle/erector axis.

Problem with lots of Leupolds is that is what I've seen, reticle cant in relation to the erector.

That's why it is well-worth checking to make sure the reticle and erector axes are aligned while testing tracking and RTZ. By fixing the scope so that the reticle is aligned with a straight line, and then running through the adjustment range of the erector, one can easily and quickly confirm that there is no deviation from the line as adjustments are made, and that the reticle and erector axis are parallel.

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

That's why it is well-worth checking to make sure the reticle and erector axes are aligned while testing tracking and RTZ. By fixing the scope so that the reticle is aligned with a straight line, and then running through the adjustment range of the erector, one can easily and quickly confirm that there is no deviation from the line as adjustments are made, and that the reticle and erector axis are parallel.

Please post a photo of your system

Thanks

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

That's why it is well-worth checking to make sure the reticle and erector axes are aligned while testing tracking and RTZ. By fixing the scope so that the reticle is aligned with a straight line, and then running through the adjustment range of the erector, one can easily and quickly confirm that there is no deviation from the line as adjustments are made, and that the reticle and erector axis are parallel.

Please post a photo of your system

Thanks

For a simple test like that, I use an optical collimator.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Shooting live ammo,ain't as scary as it sounds. Not all wares are equal,nor even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.........

From the looks of this thread, the idea of shooting to test scope function is terrifying. Why else would all the do nothing bytches test scopes without firing a shot? Hint..

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Shooting live ammo,ain't as scary as it sounds. Not all wares are equal,nor even close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.........

From the looks of this thread, the idea of shooting to test scope function is terrifying. Why else would all the do nothing bytches test scopes without firing a shot? Hint..

I like guns and all but I would never fire a shot. Too loud!

Originally Posted by qwk

From the looks of this thread, the idea of shooting to test scope function is terrifying. Why else would all the do nothing bytches test scopes without firing a shot? Hint..

If a guy has the option of using a heavy fixture that rigidly holds a barreled action with a scope mounted on top, pointed at a perfectly laser leveled vertical line on a building 35 yards away accurately marked in mil and MOA or a tall target test with all of its inaccuracies possible, plus shooting a bunch of rounds down your bore, only an idiot would choose the latter.

Idiot

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

The rub comes when the reticle won't track in the 'Z' axis (vertical) no matter how it's aligned.

100% what Mr. Nyhus has stated, if the erector does not track vertically it will have horizontal displacement somewhere in it's travel no matter where you are leveling it to the plumb line in its travel.

Originally Posted by mclevela

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

The rub comes when the reticle won't track in the 'Z' axis (vertical) no matter how it's aligned.

100% what Mr. Nyhus has stated, if the erector does not track vertically it will have horizontal displacement somewhere in it's travel no matter where you are leveling it to the plumb line in its travel.

Exactly. And Mr Stick displayed this in his test with a known accurate rifle, accurate TT construct, favorable enviornmental's, using a random scope he purchased.

Though Mr Stick used a scope sample size of 1, which has no statistical significance if a claim were made that ALL scopes of that model would display similar tracking error, there is some suggestion that other scopes of that model could display tracking error.

How many? YGIAGAM.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by mclevela

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The scope must be mounted so that the TRAVEL of the reticle is perfectly plumb while the barreled action is perfectly level.

The rub comes when the reticle won't track in the 'Z' axis (vertical) no matter how it's aligned.

100% what Mr. Nyhus has stated, if the erector does not track vertically it will have horizontal displacement somewhere in it's travel no matter where you are leveling it to the plumb line in its travel.

Exactly. And Mr Stick displayed this in his test with a known accurate rifle, accurate TT construct, favorable enviornmental's, using a random scope he purchased.

Though Mr Stick used a scope sample size of 1, which has no statistical significance if a claim were made that ALL scopes of that model would display similar tracking error, there is some suggestion that other scopes of that model could display tracking error.

How many? YGIAGAM.

I believe Al was referencing an erector that tracks in a non linear path. If it tracks in a straight line, it can be aligned vertically. The downside to forcing an erector alignment in conflict with the crosshair alignment is aiming error for any reticle aiming points other than the center.

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

That's why it is well-worth checking to make sure the reticle and erector axes are aligned while testing tracking and RTZ. By fixing the scope so that the reticle is aligned with a straight line, and then running through the adjustment range of the erector, one can easily and quickly confirm that there is no deviation from the line as adjustments are made, and that the reticle and erector axis are parallel.

Please post a photo of your system

Thanks

For a simple test like that, I use an optical collimator.

👍

everybody else is weighed in so I guess I will. I'm going to make it short and simple

testing the scope alone in a known jig the test for scope function is the first thing to do

checking rifle mounts rings and such for being squaredible above bore is second step..

getting mounted absolutely square to above bore would be the final step or maybe step three

.actually shooting would be my final step.
actually shooting without verifying on mechanics first can be a waste of time because of human error and or environmental factors..

the one thing I will disagree with some people on you need to learn to shoot your gun perfectly square and your scope radical set search not learn to shoot your gun with your scope radical square even though your gun may be can it in your scope can it in your rings...

shooting with your scope slightly counted whether you're actually dialing or using a radical holdover system will absolutely ruin your day

Originally Posted by ldholton

everybody else is weighed in so I guess I will. I'm going to make it short and simple

testing the scope alone in a known jig the test for scope function is the first thing to do

checking rifle mounts rings and such for being squaredible above bore is second step..

getting mounted absolutely square to above bore would be the final step or maybe step three

.actually shooting would be my final step.
actually shooting without verifying on mechanics first can be a waste of time because of human error and or environmental factors..

the one thing I will disagree with some people on you need to learn to shoot your gun perfectly square and your scope radical set search not learn to shoot your gun with your scope radical square even though your gun may be can it in your scope can it in your rings...

shooting with your scope slightly counted whether you're actually dialing or using a radical holdover system will absolutely ruin your day

What if you're dyslexic, diabetic, cross-eyed, and hung over?

Riar Rarry Roves Reupold

Originally Posted by ldholton

everybody else is weighed in so I guess I will. I'm going to make it short and simple

testing the scope alone in a known jig the test for scope function is the first thing to do

checking rifle mounts rings and such for being squaredible above bore is second step..

getting mounted absolutely square to above bore would be the final step or maybe step three

.actually shooting would be my final step.
actually shooting without verifying on mechanics first can be a waste of time because of human error and or environmental factors..

the one thing I will disagree with some people on you need to learn to shoot your gun perfectly square and your scope radical set search not learn to shoot your gun with your scope radical square even though your gun may be can it in your scope can it in your rings...

shooting with your scope slightly counted whether you're actually dialing or using a radical holdover system will absolutely ruin your day

What an imbecile

LOLOLOLOL

Originally Posted by l’m-a-dolt

I figured the simple terms is way over some simple people's heads

Originally Posted by ldholton

I figured the simple terms is way over some simple people's heads

LOLOLOLOL 😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

If you’re going to go to the trouble of making a fixture to simply hold a scope, why not make a fixture to hold a barreled action AND a scope?

Certainly is a precision looking jig for checking optics on a barreled action.
A couple questions if you do not mind.

We have to assume that screw hole in the V-block that the action is drilled with zero to small tolerance in relation to the Y axis and or there is a way to rotate the action a perfect plumb vertical.

How do you verify the action is plumb & square given the possible error in tolerances of the action screw holes & scope base screw holes location?

Perhaps you begin without the scope mounted?

Certainly looks like a slick, precise testing jig.

The knobs you see on the base plate screw in and out to level the action on the table

The aluminum piece you see with the level on top fits tightly over the scope and action. If there is any play, paper thin shims are fitted first to eliminate it

After the action is precisely leveled, the scope is then placed on the rings loosely enough to rotate.

While sighting through the scope, the reticle is lined up with the laser-leveled vertical plumb line.

The scope is then set to a 100 yard zero with a collimator, reticle aligned with the plumb line and dialed to check for perfect vertical tracking. If when dialing, the crosshairs leave the plumb line, the scope is adjusted in the rings to correct

Rings are tightened, which takes care, as simply tightening the rings change the alignment of the reticle to the plumb line.

After it’s perfect, the scope is then evaluated for reticle subtension accuracy as well as click value accuracy through its entire travel

The scope is perfectly mounted over the center of the bore at this point. Accurately to .001” at 6” according to Score High

Precision Scope Mounting

Originally Posted by David_Walter

Most of the time, when I pull the trigger where the target was and where it is relative to me are the same. Unless you’re observing from off planet?

Maybe that's why stuff that just works for everyone else ends up with you having to send it back and argue with the manufacturer 2x-3x for each product, you just don't know how to use any of it.

Originally Posted by mclevela

Certainly is a precision looking jig for checking optics on a barreled action…

Certainly looks like a slick, precise testing jig.

Oh, by the way, the jig serves two purposes

Providing a rock solid platform with the ability to level a barreled action with precision that is not possible with other methods and precisely mounting an optic while the action is precisely level

And after the precision mount is completed, full testing of the optic on the rock solid platform with the ability to manipulate the turrets without any movement to the set up

All interesting information on the finer points of optic quality. Every scope on the list used in competition lists out at probably twice as much as most average people are willing to pay total on a “hunting rifle .” For all practical purposes i could get along with a good quality peep or a fixed 4x and not notice the difference.

Sort or off topic question, for you guys who really test scopes to the absolute minimum detail….

How often, if ever, do you find one that has practically no measurable error?

Honestly curious here. I don’t have any fancy jigs/mounts to test near the level of some. I do the box test, and a semi tall target test, then verify at long range. I always have to adjust my BC to get everything to jive, if going real long.

Originally Posted by Holston

.

How often, if ever, do you find one that has practically no measurable error?.

My gunsmith tests hundreds of scopes. The ones you describe above are rare

I own one that happened to be perfect. Leupold Mark 4 M5A2. I know a buddy has the same scope and it too tested perfect.

I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here on this thread of a Mark 5 HD exactly like the one stick says sucks, that tested perfectly.

I enjoyed the Q-eque Blue Haired Cat Lady Bullschit and the fervor in which it is endorsed. Fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.

(2) different rifles,no ammo particulars cited,no TTT,no mention of base/rings,both scopes SFP,both Mil/MOA erector/reticle juxtaposed,atmospheric conflicts and a ring "adjustment" which "might" have happened?!? None of which involved The "Magic" Scope "Checker". Fhuqking Magnificent HILARITY!. Hint.

REALITY in calm conditions at 50yds,aboard a World Class Rifle,which is a very well PROVEN platform. The REUPOLD MK5 3.6-18X with simplistic erector manipulations alone,will take Agg's from the .2's,to 1-1/2"++. Left static and stabbing a vastly superior FFP reticle,to the SFP TMR which "might" have got "adjusted",my particular MK5 did nice things. The 5-20x HD mounted prior and after,dazzled like always and pinpoints more than a few things,none of which are Reupold Flattering. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Time after time.
Rifle after rifle.
You see a guy at the range with what should be a accurate rifle.
Shooting 1.5 groups.
Blaming the ammo.
Blaming the gun.
In every case there's a Leupold on top.
Friends don't let friends use poopie loopie erectors.

dave

Merry Christmas to the LDS afficted ladies who own shit rifles and post faked pictures:

From THE WIZARD:

Enjoy.

Oh you again. Great.

I have another fake picture. Just for you. You will notice that the horse looking left is the same one in the other picture. Wearing the same rig. A horseman such as yourself would pick up on that though. Shooting was at 50 yards this time. Still no guide.

Do people make shooting game appear difficult on purpose? Blows my mind.

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Awesome pic once again pathfinder. Being a good marksman pales in comparison to being a bottom feeding zero in real life. I know you understand that, some people obviously don't. Merry Christmas!

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Do people make shooting game appear difficult on purpose? Blows my mind.
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everybody else is weighed in so I guess I will. I'm going to make it short and simple

testing the scope alone in a known jig the test for scope function is the first thing to do

checking rifle mounts rings and such for being squaredible above bore is second step..

getting mounted absolutely square to above bore would be the final step or maybe step three

.actually shooting would be my final step.
actually shooting without verifying on mechanics first can be a waste of time because of human error and or environmental factors..

the one thing I will disagree with some people on you need to learn to shoot your gun perfectly square and your scope radical set search not learn to shoot your gun with your scope radical square even though your gun m
ay be can it in your scope can it in your rings...

Some do
Great picture.

dave

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Awesome pic once again pathfinder. Being a good marksman pales in comparison to being a bottom feeding zero in real life. I know you understand that, some people obviously don't. Merry Christmas!

You’re obviously talking about Burns. LOL

I wouldn't expect a Leupold to track as expected. I have 5 and none of them adjust close to what the dials say. I will never buy another one. The.new.ones don't hold up long and don't track. At least the old models held zero for a few years once set.

Originally Posted by ldholton

with the precision you play with in mind what Scopes in your experience make the better list and what Scopes make the not so good list as a general rule..

While there's no doubt that certain brands show certain trends (good and bad), it's really about each individual scope. The adjustment method, how the erector tube pivots and how the tube is loaded (spring tension) are the big factors in how scopes track.

Most scopes have a sharp edged round plunger that pushes directly on the erector tube. As the tube moves further, it rides closer to the edge of the plunger...pretty soon you have two narrow edges for contact points which is going to influence the consistency of adjustments. Sightron, for example, uses an integral ring around the erector tube where the plunger rides against the ring for consistent contact throughout the travel. It's one of the reasons that Sightron scopes have a reputation for reliable tracking. Here's a view of it:
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Weaver's well known Micro Trac system was similar with the adjuster plunger pushing on carbide balls that drove the erector assy. The steel tube Weaver T's have a very stout erector tube pivot system. When Weaver moved to the aluminum 'T' series, they kept the carbide ball adjustment system but changed the pivot system.

Scopes that use the worm drive system for w/e adjustments tend to track very well. Good examples of those are the IOR Valdada Benchrest series. Several of the Athlon models also use that system and track very well. This Athlon I bought is one of the best tracking scopes I've ever tested, regardless of brand or price. It's on a PRS center fire rifle right now and hasn't missed a beat for two seasons.
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So the answer is...it depends. I like to test them statically to make sure they are worth putting on. If that's all good, the range work is the final determiner.

Scopes don't have to be perfect. As long as the 'drift' is within the accuracy requirements for what's required of the gun, you can get away with a fair amount of wander in tracking and RTZ with power changes and after recoil. If all that's needed is a gun that shoots to 1 MOA, the window is quite a bit wider that a gun that needs to be capable of shooting sub 1/8 MOA five shot groups. A PRS gun with an honest 1/2 MOA accuracy shooting at 2 MOA and 3 MOA targets doesn't need to have a scope that tracks as well as a short range (100-300 yds) real Benchrest rig that shoots at targets that are 1/16" at 100, 1/8" at 200 and 1/4" at 300, for example. The PRS guns need sturdy externals to take the knocks and tracking that's within the window of the targets accuracy demands. Real Benchrest guns need absolute tracking and rock solid internals. If the scope has 1/8" adjustments, it must move that amount with each click. And return to zero.

One scope isn't 'better' than the other...different tools for different games, is all.

I didn't realize Charley Robertson had changed his mind about making his barrelled action and scope mounting platform for resale...at least he didn't when I talked with him about it. I have to call him with an order of ProBed this week so I'll ask him about it and report back.

Good shootin' -Al

Thanks for the tutorial and pics Al. Worth a 1000 or 10000 words.

Merry Christmas.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I didn't realize Charley Robertson had changed his mind about making his barrelled action and scope mounting platform for resale...at least he didn't when I talked with him about it. I have to call him with an order of ProBed this week so I'll ask him about it and report back.

Good shootin' -Al

If the actual platform is for resale, that’s news to me.

Where did you hear that?

Merry Christmas , Brother Al. You have brought unseen before knowledge to us here on the Fire. Your optic testing knowledge us unmatched.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

(2) different rifles,no ammo particulars cited,no TTT,no mention of base/rings,both scopes SFP,both Mil/MOA erector/reticle juxtaposed,atmospheric conflicts and a ring "adjustment" which "might" have happened?!? None of which involved The "Magic" Scope "Checker". Fhuqking Magnificent HILARITY!. Hint..

I know reading comprehension is very difficult, but he didn’t build the platform until after noticing the problems he had at the range with those two rifles with scopes mounted in normal shop conditions.

The problem was the slight difference in the precision of the shop scope mount.

But you would have understood that if you could read and process normally 😂😂

By the way, those were the first two rifles chambered for 6.5 Creedmoor other than by Hornady as I understand. Hornady sent the original reamer to Charley to chamber a match rifle for their sponsored shooter here in town. The ammo was Hornady factory 140 gr A-Max Match ammo that Hornady supplied since it wasn’t on the market or available

Riar Rarry can't stop Rying. Hint.

Thanks for posting that Al! Good reading.

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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No John, we walked closer.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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No John, we walked closer.

Great. Why are you rootin around in a thread about dialing 20 Mils.

Just because you killed a moose at close range? Lots of us have killed bigger moose, closer, and with iron sights on a revolver. Who cares? This is about scopes and dialing.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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No John, we walked closer.

Great. Why are you rootin around in a thread about dialing 20 Mils.

Just because you killed a moose at close range? Lots of us have killed bigger moose, closer, and with iron sights on a revolver. Who cares? This is about scopes and dialing.

No John, it’s all about you.

I don’t know why, but the childish immature display you have put on here has rubbed me the wrong way.

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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No John, we walked closer.

Great. Why are you rootin around in a thread about dialing 20 Mils.

Just because you killed a moose at close range? Lots of us have killed bigger moose, closer, and with iron sights on a revolver. Who cares? This is about scopes and dialing.

No John, it’s all about you.

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LOL.

Rando Picture stolen on the NET but while you blurred the faces to not get caught you forgot to blur the Gold Ring on the optic.

Even Rando internet liars can't hide Leupold success. Thanks for playing and the LOLs.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

(2) different rifles,no ammo particulars cited,no TTT,no mention of base/rings,both scopes SFP,both Mil/MOA erector/reticle juxtaposed,atmospheric conflicts and a ring "adjustment" which "might" have happened?!? None of which involved The "Magic" Scope "Checker". Fhuqking Magnificent HILARITY!. Hint..

I know reading comprehension is very difficult, but he didn’t build the platform until after noticing the problems he had at the range with those two rifles with scopes mounted in normal shop conditions.

The problem was the slight difference in the precision of the shop scope mount.

But you would have understood that if you could read and process normally 😂😂

By the way, those were the first two rifles chambered for 6.5 Creedmoor other than by Hornady as I understand. Hornady sent the original reamer to Charley to chamber a match rifle for their sponsored shooter here in town. The ammo was Hornady factory 140 gr A-Max Match ammo that Hornady supplied since it wasn’t on the market or available

Sweetie,

I miss nothing,if only obviously. Hint.

Might you be inferring one can mount a scope,less going to the Moon and that Blue Haired Cat Ladies,enjoy heart warming Stories. Hint.

Here kitty kitty. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

605, 595 and 495 this year, so just barely over 600 for one.

675 and 730 a 2 and 3 years ago (lil brother and my best friend)

Trijicons and NF's for us though.

732yds, whitetail doe, 243AI shooting 105 A-Max, w/12-42x56 NF I use for F-Class.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I didn't realize Charley Robertson had changed his mind about making his barrelled action and scope mounting platform for resale...at least he didn't when I talked with him about it. I have to call him with an order of ProBed this week so I'll ask him about it and report back.

Good shootin' -Al

If the actual platform is for resale, that’s news to me.

Where did you hear that?

Just got off the phone with Charley. He has no idea what you’re talking about Al

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

(2) different rifles,no ammo particulars cited,no TTT,no mention of base/rings,both scopes SFP,both Mil/MOA erector/reticle juxtaposed,atmospheric conflicts and a ring "adjustment" which "might" have happened?!? None of which involved The "Magic" Scope "Checker". Fhuqking Magnificent HILARITY!. Hint..

I know reading comprehension is very difficult, but he didn’t build the platform until after noticing the problems he had at the range with those two rifles with scopes mounted in normal shop conditions.

The problem was the slight difference in the precision of the shop scope mount.

But you would have understood that if you could read and process normally 😂😂

By the way, those were the first two rifles chambered for 6.5 Creedmoor other than by Hornady as I understand. Hornady sent the original reamer to Charley to chamber a match rifle for their sponsored shooter here in town. The ammo was Hornady factory 140 gr A-Max Match ammo that Hornady supplied since it wasn’t on the market or available

Sweetie,

I miss nothing,if only obviously. Hint.

Might you be inferring one can mount a scope,less going to the Moon and that Blue Haired Cat Ladies,enjoy heart warming Stories. Hint.

Here kitty kitty. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Huh?

Lol

Originally Posted by horse1

732yds, whitetail doe, 243AI shooting 105 A-Max, w/12-42x56 NF I use for F-Class.

Nevermind. See it

Originally Posted by beretzs

605, 595 and 495 this year, so just barely over 600 for one.

675 and 730 a 2 and 3 years ago (lil brother and my best friend)

Trijicons and NF's for us though.

Lots of good scopes these days and you have a history here complete with pictures.

As side note I don't remember you being a guy who spent much time running down other scopes.

Might just be a lesson hiding in there somewhere?

The Real question is does the fat red faced drunk ever hunt without stock to haul his fat azz in and out?

Lol f ucking pathetic

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I didn't realize Charley Robertson had changed his mind about making his barrelled action and scope mounting platform for resale...at least he didn't when I talked with him about it. I have to call him with an order of ProBed this week so I'll ask him about it and report back.

Good shootin' -Al

If the actual platform is for resale, that’s news to me.

Where did you hear that?

Just got off the phone with Charley. He has no idea what you’re talking about Al

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

Not sure if this qualifies as “Long Range”, but Leupolds seem to work pretty good at 140 yards short of 1 Mile

1620 yards

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I didn't realize Charley Robertson had changed his mind about making his barrelled action and scope mounting platform for resale...at least he didn't when I talked with him about it. I have to call him with an order of ProBed this week so I'll ask him about it and report back.

Good shootin' -Al

If the actual platform is for resale, that’s news to me.

Where did you hear that?

Just got off the phone with Charley. He has no idea what you’re talking about Al

He also said he has two customers with the name Al Nyhus

Weird!!!

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

The Real question is does the fat red faced drunk ever hunt without stock to haul his fat azz in and out?

Lol f ucking pathetic

It’s actually smart

And it’s actually looking smarter the older I get.

Lol

They also seem to work at 65 yards further than 1 mile

1825 yards

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

The Real question is does the fat red faced drunk ever hunt without stock to haul his fat azz in and out?

Lol f ucking pathetic

It’s actually smart

And it’s actually looking smarter the older I get.

Lol

When you have to haul in the amount of booze he has to consume to stave off the shakes....I guess for drunkards it's the only way they can.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Just got off the phone with Charley. He has no idea what you’re talking about Al

I didn't think they have ever been for sale.

So...you've never actually done any of this yourself and just danced semantics around to make it seem like you had the fixture and were doing your own work.

Bingo.

Who's your Daddy? The WIZARD.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Just got off the phone with Charley. He has no idea what you’re talking about Al

I didn't think they have ever been for sale.

So...you've never actually done any of this yourself and just danced semantics around to make it seem like you had the fixture and were doing your own work.

Bingo.

Reading comprehension is not your forte. I’ve posted many times that I’ve mounted my own scopes with his equipment, and tested scopes on his equipment. Charley has been a friend for 25+ years and lets me use his equipment.

Feel free to call him. I already told him to expect your call

👌🏼

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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I haven't looked at these for a few years but it's fun to dig them out. This was just a harmless prairie dog at 712 yds. Leica range finder, dial 'up' and 'over' and press the trigger. 243 Ackley and a NF 8-32 with NP2-DD reticle. Bedded bases and lapped and bedded rings (the horror).

Not quite as challenging as the 24" kill zone of a man eating elk at the same distance, of course. But in fairness, I didn't hit an antler.

Hey...this is could be fun!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Reading comprehension is not your forte. I’ve posted many times that I’ve mounted my own scopes with his equipment, and tested scopes on his equipment. Charley has been a friend for 25+ years and lets me use his equipment.

Feel free to call him. I already told him to expect your call

👌🏼

Yet Again.

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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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I haven't looked at these for a few years but it's fun to dig them out. This was just a harmless prairie dog at 712 yds. Leica range finder, dial 'up' and 'over' and press the trigger. 243 Ackley and a NF 8-32 with NP2-DD reticle. Bedded bases and lapped and bedded rings (the horror).

Not quite as challenging as the 24" kill zone of a man eating elk at the same distance, of course. But in fairness, I didn't hit an antler.

Hey...this is could be fun!

Cool.

I killed a prairie dog on November 4th on a friends ranch at 755 with my 243 WSSM

Would you like to call him too?

😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I’ve posted many times that I’ve mounted my own scopes with his equipment, and tested scopes on his equipment.

Not on this thread.

No...you tip-toed through the tulips of truth with innuendo and side speak. Tiny Tim would be proud.

'Nite rcamuglia. 'Nite John Boy. The floor is yours.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I’ve posted many times that I’ve mounted my own scopes with his equipment, and tested scopes on his equipment.

Not on this thread.

No...you tip-toed through the tulips of truth with innuendo and side speak. Tiny Tim would be proud.

'Nite rcamuglia. 'Nite John Boy. The floor is yours.

I’ve spoken nothing but the truth.

Call Charley

I’ll be talking to him and will report back

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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I haven't looked at these for a few years but it's fun to dig them out. This was just a harmless prairie dog at 712 yds. Leica range finder, dial 'up' and 'over' and press the trigger. 243 Ackley and a NF 8-32 with NP2-DD reticle. Bedded bases and lapped and bedded rings (the horror).

Not quite as challenging as the 24" kill zone of a man eating elk at the same distance, of course. But in fairness, I didn't hit an antler.

Hey...this is could be fun!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Cool.

I killed a prairie dog on November 4th on a friends ranch at 755 with my 243 WSSM

Would you like to call him?

😂

Do you have a picture of a random 500yd award?

Originally Posted by LiL Fish

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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I haven't looked at these for a few years but it's fun to dig them out. This was just a harmless prairie dog at 712 yds. Leica range finder, dial 'up' and 'over' and press the trigger. 243 Ackley and a NF 8-32 with NP2-DD reticle. Bedded bases and lapped and bedded rings (the horror).

Not quite as challenging as the 24" kill zone of a man eating elk at the same distance, of course. But in fairness, I didn't hit an antler.

Hey...this is could be fun!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Cool.

I killed a prairie dog on November 4th on a friends ranch at 755 with my 243 WSSM

Would you like to call him?

😂

Do you have a picture of a random 500yd award?

Originally Posted by LiL Fish

He never gave me one.

Now I feel gypped

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Who's your Daddy? The WIZARD.

You have zero children. LOL

So after the testing, what was learned?

Rick would desperately like to position himself as a condescending know-it-all, the persistent problem is always that he’s too stupid to grasp what he’s talking about. Repeating, and cut-pasting the oft referenced “jig” and its importance being the most frequent showcase.

Al’s probably the only one who’s posted who’s spent any time inside a scope, or understands why one would fail, or likely prove more reliable.

Burns is still a fat, pathetic spinster

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best known for serial and reliable business failure. It’s a Christmas miracle that he NyQuiled himself through another lonely holiday.

So, throw the Leupold on a static rest?

Static Leupold Testing.

Holy schidt , Brother

Originally Posted by tucsonan

So after the testing, what was learned?

Rick would desperately like to position himself as a condescending know-it-all, the persistent problem is always that he’s too stupid to grasp what he’s talking about. Repeating, and cut-pasting the oft referenced “jig” and its importance being the most frequent showcase.

Al’s probably the only one who’s posted who’s spent any time inside a scope, or understands why one would fail, or likely prove more reliable.

Burns is still a fat, pathetic spinster

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

known best known for serial and reliable business failure. It’s a Christmas miracle that he NyQuiled himself through another lonely holiday.

So, throw the Leupold on a static rest?

Originally Posted by tucsonan

So after the testing, what was learned?

Rick would desperately like to position himself as a condescending know-it-all, the persistent problem is always that he’s too stupid to grasp what he’s talking about. Repeating, and cut-pasting the oft referenced “jig” and its importance being the most frequent showcase.

Al’s probably the only one who’s posted who’s spent any time inside a scope, or understands why one would fail, or likely prove more reliable.

Burns is still a fat, pathetic spinster

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known best known for serial and reliable business failure. It’s a Christmas miracle that he NyQuiled himself through another lonely holiday.

So, throw the Leupold on a static rest?

Stick a saguaro up your ass. There’s plenty in Tuscon

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Static Leupold Testing.

😁

Maiden Voyage of The Reupold Flagship. Nothing warm or fuzzy and pardon World Class Wares,using Live Ammo,at 50yds,in stellar conditions(that means good). Hint.

Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x EPIC Fhuqking Failure

To be continued. Hint...................

HINT

LOL.

LiL Fish still keeps posting 3 MOA groups for her Tall Target waste of Time and ammo.

Shit rifles deliver shit results, even in faked pictures.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

HINT

Who sent in the clowns?

What do you two spinsters get your kids for Christmas, or did you just start their college fund?

Do kids like great big antlers? I have a few of those that were taken with Leupold scopes on the rifles.

Tis The Season,for Professional Victims...though it never ends,with Moths headed for The Flame. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by tucsonan

What do you two spinsters get your kids for Christmas, or did you just start their college fund?

Socks from Costco

They make great puppets

Let’s hope the kids’ parents in Burns’ pics have a better orthodonture plan than Burns’ parents did.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

HINT

Who sent in the clowns?

Whomever is paying you and Burns

Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Let’s hope the kids’ parents in Burns’ pics have a better orthodonture plan than Burns’ parents did.

Oregon strikes again.

Perhaps I'll get LUCKY on this Reupold Repair and they'll install a Tactical Erector Assembly,like they did in my freshly Puked(for the 3rd fhuqking time) MK4 FFP Mil Spotter. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

[quote]Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Good Times.

Rick and I didn't hit it off early on.

That's the wonderful thing about LR shooting or really any shooting.

In the end skilled shooters always have much in common including a disdain for those that fake results.

Iron sharpens iron.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Good Times.

Rick and I didn't hit it off early on.

That's the wonderful thing about LR shooting or really any shooting.

In the end skilled shooters always have much in common including a disdain for those that fake results.

Iron sharpens iron.

👍🏼

Ya know, my opinion at this point that Toodogsfuqking is a complete moron could change in the future as well

Just kidding

😂😂😝

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Good Times.

Rick and I didn't hit it off early on.

That's the wonderful thing about LR shooting or really any shooting.

In the end skilled shooters always have much in common including a disdain for those that fake results.

Iron sharpens iron.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

👍🏼

Ya know, my opinion at this point that Toodogsfuqking is a complete moron could change in the future as well

Just kidding

😂😂😝

2Dogs is a bit butthurt but he really does not know why or about what.

Like a few here they just want to lash out at the world and those of whom they are envious.

Originally Posted by The Campfire Envious Bois

from Lowlight on Snipers Hide.

Every year they seem to get farther and farther away from what made them the company worthy of the reputation they have, which I personally feel is no longer warranted.

The shear number of them we see problems with is staggering, on military weapons systems no less. They seem to be completely out of touch with the shooter, all shooters, Civilian, Law Enforcement, and Military.

Unfortunately people still flock to their products based on the past reputation, regardless of the fact their current products don't hold up to that standard.
LL

On this episode of As The Campfire Burns...

At least it’s entertaining for the late nights when I can’t sleep.

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

Who's your Daddy? The GIZARD

We know who your daddy is, Jim Beam. Step-dad is Evan Williams, because obviously your mother is a skank...

Ok, we've established you're a lazy drunk slob hunter. Now the question is when is the last time you hunted? All these old pics from decades and a 100lbs ago are fantastic, but why live in the past? Ashamed of your weight? Or, more believable, you haven't hunted in a decade or more. Which is understandable. You get to your 50s, let the booze take over, gain 100lbs (25 being in your neck), and all the sudden waddling 25yds from yer horse to shoot becomes a real chore...

10yrs? 20yrs?

Ever want to know what hunting with an egomaniac,alcoholic, retarded, fat azz is like? This face sums it up........

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Good Times.

Rick and I didn't hit it off early on.

That's the wonderful thing about LR shooting or really any shooting.

In the end skilled shooters always have much in common including a disdain for those that fake results.

Iron sharpens iron.

Summary: You two got a room and the relationship blossomed. XOXOXO

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Looks like they’ve been swallowing each others kids since 2011. Probably a very good thing too. Stupid breeds stupid.

For those that haven't had one apart, this is a typical reticle 'cell'. This one is apart now and will go back together after some mods that will make it track more consistently. It's one of the 'name' mfg. scopes being discussed in this thread. It's not an etched reticle so that will give some hints. But wire reticles aren't universally a problem...depends on the wire used and the attachment method. The attachment method gives a hint as to what type of wire this is.

Good shootin'

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Good Times.

Rick and I didn't hit it off early on.

That's the wonderful thing about LR shooting or really any shooting.

In the end skilled shooters always have much in common including a disdain for those that fake results.

Iron sharpens iron.

IOW, burns jumped to incorrect conclusions and showed his a$s. But camuglia is the type to suck up, so they formed a relationship.

What's the likelihood that burns is continuing to show his a$s, but most people don't feel the need to suck up, so he continues to show his a$s?

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

nifty stuff Al all the info you have given throughout this thread is excellent..

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I tried looking up greybull precision, but it said it was permanently closed. Is there more to the story?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I tried looking up greybull precision, but it said it was permanently closed. Is there more to the story?

His point to everything is that everyone is Uber jealous of he and Rick. LOL

Well when you think about it, there is lots to be jealous of, but none of us will admit it.....

Homo, lardass, or both
no family that will claim either one of them
resume of perpetual business wrecking/bankruptcy
Entrenched in the LGBTQ community
won't/can't pay taxes
live in the ghetto in a ghetto town

Yep, I'm jealous.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]Guess who post this: dated 07/2011 or so.

Quote

Rcamigulia,

Well I was pretty sure your LR shooting resume would be thin and you did not disappoint.

If you have absolutely no experience using the cartridge in discussion why in the world have you ranted on endlessly???

You simply read your opinion somewhere, on the internet or in a magazine, and now you are an expert on long range cartridges. cool

The fact that you are unable to objectively watch the terminal performance on the video and understand that the 243 Win 105 VLD worked very well is simply sad.

My suggestion to you would be to purchase some over the counter antlerless tags and actually get yourself some real world experience and PRACTICE.

You are not, in any way, ready to shoot at trophy mule deer at anything close to 1000yds. You simply do not have enough knowledge or practice to attempt such shooting.

And the reply:

Quote

Hey JB!

You are in Wyoming, right?

You ought to join us for the Sporting Rifle Match at Whittington Center in Raton NM. We have some guys who make the trip from Wyoming for the match every month.

There's a lot of us guys with "thin" long range shooting resumes here. I'm sure a guy like you with a resume made "thick" from shooting big game at long range would whip us all!

You should show up and show us how it's done! The next one is September 4th!

We could post the results right here so everyone can see how important "practice" is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Yessiree!

I didn’t think he was the real deal back then.

But I was wrong and am not asceeerd to admit it

👍🏼

Good Times.

Rick and I didn't hit it off early on.

That's the wonderful thing about LR shooting or really any shooting.

In the end skilled shooters always have much in common including a disdain for those that fake results.

Iron sharpens iron.

IOW, burns jumped to incorrect conclusions and showed his a$s. But camuglia is the type to suck up, so they formed a relationship.

What's the likelihood that burns is continuing to show his a$s, but most people don't feel the need to suck up, so he continues to show his a$s?

Yep. Cumaglia likely conceded that Mr Burns is the more experienced and knowledgeable of the pair. That explains why cumaglia follows Mr Burns around the forum in a support role.

Originally Posted by The 24hr Campfire Never Done Anything Ladies Group

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

For those that haven't had one apart, this is a typical reticle 'cell'. This one is apart now and will go back together after some mods that will make it track more consistently. It's one of the 'name' mfg. scopes being discussed in this thread. It's not an etched reticle so that will give some hints. But wire reticles aren't universally a problem...depends on the wire used and the attachment method. The attachment method gives a hint as to what type of wire this is.

Good shootin'

Al,

I feel your pain and that upon their former Flagship and I shoulda never looked,as it was/is beyond disheartening. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Every time one of the retarded GIFS pop up, I think of a 13 year old girl giggling when she hits post.

Originally Posted by SLM

Every time one of the retarded GIFS pop up, I think of a 13 year old girl giggling when she hits post.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Still trying I see. Lol.

Still no guide.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Still trying I see. Lol.

Still no guide.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Still trying I see. Lol.

Still no guide.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

For sure. Kids lucky to have a Dad like that.

I would’ve pushed the kid outta the way…

Originally Posted by The 24 Hr Never Done Anything Ladies Group

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by The 24 Hr Never Done Anything Ladies Group

Right Click:

Save as Rick Stomp:

Might be that gets posted once or twice in the future.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

Nice buck and nice Leupold. Funny how the kids face is not blurred but the grownups are afraid to be seen in the other pictures?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

Nice buck and nice Leupold. Funny how the kids face is not blurred but the grownups are afraid to be seen in the other pictures?

Don’t worry about it John.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Nice buck and nice Leupold. Funny how the kids face is not blurred but the grownups are afraid to be seen in the other pictures?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Don’t worry about it John.

Obviously I don't worry but you seem scared as shit to post any faces except a kids.

Why do you hide grown mens faces yet post a kids face?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by SLM

Every time one of the retarded GIFS pop up, I think of a 13 year old girl giggling when she hits post.

I had a 6.5-20 Vari X 111 with tall target knobs I used in FTR. It was a great scope that I sold on this site. Since I don’t have any experience with the newer Leopolds getting discussed here, I won’t comment on those.

Regarding the comment that no one is posting pictures of animals from 600+ yards, this is last October. 660 yards with my 2-12 Athlon while hunting with my son.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Nice buck and nice Leupold. Funny how the kids face is not blurred but the grownups are afraid to be seen in the other pictures?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Don’t worry about it John.

Obviously I don't worry but you seem scared as shit to post any faces except a kids.

Why do you hide grown mens faces yet post a kids face?

Because I have a face only a mother can love.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Maiden Voyage of The Reupold Flagship. Nothing warm or fuzzy and pardon World Class Wares,using Live Ammo,at 50yds,in stellar conditions(that means good). Hint.

Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x EPIC Fhuqking Failure

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Maiden Voyage of The Reupold Flagship. Nothing warm or fuzzy and pardon World Class Wares,using Live Ammo,at 50yds,in stellar conditions(that means good). Hint.

Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x EPIC Fhuqking Failure

To be continued. Hint...................

So that's after it's been repaired?
It says
Repair tag # 719548.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That kid just had the best day of his life up to that point.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Nice buck and nice Leupold. Funny how the kids face is not blurred but the grownups are afraid to be seen in the other pictures?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Don’t worry about it John.

Obviously I don't worry but you seem scared as shit to post any faces except a kids.

Why do you hide grown mens faces yet post a kids face?

Because I have a face only a mother can love.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Dam, nice deer.

Congrats.

No worries, Riar Rarry won't be sending it back for repair. They would do a simple test and tell him that either the rifle or ammo used was garbage.

Not bad for Remington Thunderbolts. HINT.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Gat damn, that buck! 😍

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That's a great buck. No wonder you use it in different pictures and settings.

And the whole class can see the Gold Ring on that optic.

Here's one of the guide packing it out for you.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

John, get off that high Mule. Here is a 16 year old girl doing more than you ever will. No GIF required. Be glad for what you have done, but quit crapping on everyone like a spoiled child. It’s unbecoming a 60 plus year old man.

Originally Posted by IDMilton

I had a 6.5-20 Vari X 111 with tall target knobs I used in FTR. It was a great scope that I sold on this site. Since I don’t have any experience with the newer Leopolds getting discussed here, I won’t comment on those.

Regarding the comment that no one is posting pictures of animals from 600+ yards, this is last October. 660 yards with my 2-12 Athlon while hunting with my son.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I think we are seeing a solid trend here in that those that can do don't spend much time bitching about what others use on their rifles.

It's obvious a few think it's their full time job to spread LDS. Almost like a paying job.

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Maiden Voyage of The Reupold Flagship. Nothing warm or fuzzy and pardon World Class Wares,using Live Ammo,at 50yds,in stellar conditions(that means good). Hint.

Reupold MK5 HD 3.6-18x EPIC Fhuqking Failure

To be continued. Hint...................

So that's after it's been repaired?
It says
Repair tag # 719548.

That’s how all work is logged into the shop.

The scope was not repaired, it underwent a precision scope mount and evaluation.

You’re looking at the results which indicate a perfect scope

Originally Posted by KenMi

No worries, Riar Rarry won't be sending it back for repair. They would do a simple test and tell him that either the rifle or ammo used was garbage.

Not bad for Remington Thunderbolts. HINT.

Or the shooter’s error

Perhaps I'll get LUCKY on this Reupold Repair and they'll install a Tactical Erector Assembly,like they did in my freshly Puked(for the 3rd fhuqking time) MK4 FFP Mil Spotter. Hint.

Maiden Voyage of The Reupold Flagship. Nothing warm or fuzzy and pardon World Class Wares,using Live Ammo,at 50yds,in stellar conditions(that means good). Hint.

Reupold is always warm/fuzzy. Hint.

Give or fhuqking take. Hint.

[/url=https://youtube.com/shorts/_0b1agK88qI?si=pk4Fukm4G3F78WKW]MK5 Reupold Awesomeness RINK[/url]

Flipside. Hint.

Re-Flipside. Re-Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Leupold MK V Very Tall Anter Test was a success. Nice suppressor.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold MK V Very Tall Anter Test was a success. Nice suppressor.

🤣🤣🤣

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Next time in, I’m going to have to ask Charley his opinion of Leupold again.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I think we are seeing a solid trend here in that those that can do don't spend much time bitching about what others use on their rifles.

Are you too drunk or stupid to realize you are the one that started b itching in this thread?

All because someone doesn't love the s hit product you get paid (or got paid) to shill....you are a sad fat b itch.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This is so exciting.

Will Leupold be able to keep up with the ChiComs? Not looking good but maybe it will be a Cinderella story?

I, like all the Fans, can't wait for more pictures of "pretend" hunting, staged shots, and "wares that exist".

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's a great buck. No wonder you use it in different pictures and settings.

You, ummmmm.....you're the one that asked to see a pict with his face in it.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Reupold can almost tell one of their Rifle Scopes,from one of their Spotting Scopes. ALMOST. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by SKane

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's a great buck. No wonder you use it in different pictures and settings.

You, ummmmm.....you're the one that asked to see a pict with his face in it.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

No I didn't ask to see his face.

I commented on his fear of showing pictures with faces unless it was a kid.

I also commented he used another picture of that same buck in a different setting and implied a 16 yr old girl killed it.

So truthfully I did not see that picture coming for a few reasons but I did see the Leupold Gold Rings in the pictures he posted.

In addition, I find the over use of Gifs on the site to be getting out of hand and will be talking to Rick Bin about such wastes of bandwidth.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I think we are seeing a solid trend here in that those that can do don't spend much time bitching about what others use on their rifles.

Are you too drunk or stupid to realize you are the one that started b itching in this thread?

All because someone doesn't love the s hit product you get paid (or got paid) to shill....you are a sad fat b itch.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This is so exciting.

Will Leupold be able to keep up with the ChiComs? Not looking good but maybe it will be a Cinderella story?

I, like all the Fans, can't wait for more pictures of "pretend" hunting, staged shots, and "wares that exist".

Yeah.

I called it pretty early. It's what WIZARDs do but really Sammie Davis saw this faked picture shit show coming.

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al

[quote=Al_Nyhus]Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer on the assembly line with a complete disregard to the customer.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) whips these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al[/quote👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by SKane

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's a great buck. No wonder you use it in different pictures and settings.

You, ummmmm.....you're the one that asked to see a pict with his face in it.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

No I didn't ask to see his face.

I commented on his fear of showing pictures with faces unless it was a kid.

I also commented he used another picture of that same buck in a different setting and implied a 16 yr old girl killed it.

So truthfully I did not see that picture coming for a few reasons but I did see the Leupold Gold Rings in the pictures he posted.

In addition, I find the over use of Gifs on the site to be getting out of hand and will be talking to Rick Bin about such wastes of bandwidth.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I think we are seeing a solid trend here in that those that can do don't spend much time bitching about what others use on their rifles.

Are you too drunk or stupid to realize you are the one that started b itching in this thread?

All because someone doesn't love the s hit product you get paid (or got paid) to shill....you are a sad fat b itch.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This is so exciting.

Will Leupold be able to keep up with the ChiComs? Not looking good but maybe it will be a Cinderella story?

I, like all the Fans, can't wait for more pictures of "pretend" hunting, staged shots, and "wares that exist".

Yeah.

I called it pretty early. It's what WIZARDs do but really Sammie Davis saw this faked picture shit show coming.

John, a 16 year old girl did kill it. She would be the small human to my right. Im also curious where you have seen me comment on Leupold? But yes, you were whining about not seeing me. So boo!

Great info as usual Al, thanks for posting. Is there an easy was to refill them with nitrogen after the work? Just curious, it's heavier than air nature could help facilitate that it seems.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

John, a 16 year old girl did kill it. She would be the small human to my right. Im also curious where you have seen me comment on Leupold? But yes, you were whining about not seeing me. So boo!

LOL.

What kind of a shit bird holds the head on someone elses Big Whitetail. Please post a nice picture of the girl and her great buck minus you hogging the shot. Is it possible you never took a picture of her and her buck?

Post up me wanting to see your face. I just commented that you were blurring faces.

Which is weirdo behaviour just like holding someone elses antlers like you had killed the buck.

Glad you have come around around on Leupold. I call that progress.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Great info as usual Al, thanks for posting. Is there an easy was to refill them with nitrogen after the work? Just curious, it's heavier than air nature could help facilitate that it seems.

LOL.

This will be fun. It sure wasn't Argon in that scope, if you know what I mean.

I have a bunch of Puked Reupold glass that I should yard apart,to see WTF. Maybe they can install Spotting Scope Erector Assemblies in them,so they'll track?!? Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

John, a 16 year old girl did kill it. She would be the small human to my right. Im also curious where you have seen me comment on Leupold? But yes, you were whining about not seeing me. So boo!

LOL.

What kind of a shit bird holds the head on someone elses Big Whitetail. Please post a nice picture of the girl and her great buck minus you hogging the shot. Is it possible you never took a picture of her and her buck?

Post up me wanting to see your face. I just commented that you were blurring faces.

Which is weirdo behaviour just like holding someone elses antlers like you had killed the buck.

Glad you have come around around on Leupold. I call that progress.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Great info as usual Al, thanks for posting. Is there an easy was to refill them with nitrogen after the work? Just curious, it's heavier than air nature could help facilitate that it seems.

LOL.

This will be fun. It sure wasn't Argon in that scope, if you know what I mean.

John, I’m her father. And I’m in that picture so the likes of people like you understand that. Oh, and the head of a deer like that is actually heavy. Lol.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

John, a 16 year old girl did kill it. She would be the small human to my right. Im also curious where you have seen me comment on Leupold? But yes, you were whining about not seeing me. So boo!

LOL.

What kind of a shit bird holds the head on someone elses Big Whitetail. Please post a nice picture of the girl and her great buck minus you hogging the shot. Is it possible you never took a picture of her and her buck?

Post up me wanting to see your face. I just commented that you were blurring faces.

Which is weirdo behaviour just like holding someone elses antlers like you had killed the buck.

Glad you have come around around on Leupold. I call that progress.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Great info as usual Al, thanks for posting. Is there an easy was to refill them with nitrogen after the work? Just curious, it's heavier than air nature could help facilitate that it seems.

LOL.

This will be fun. It sure wasn't Argon in that scope, if you know what I mean.

John, I’m her father. And I’m in that picture so the likes of people like you understand that. Oh, and the head of a deer like that is actually heavy. Lol.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Awesome pics.

It’s obviously lost on the town drunk, but I’d almost guarantee the pic of you 2 together means way more to your daughter.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Which is weirdo behaviour just like holding someone elses antlers like you had killed the buck.

Speaking of weirdo behaviour, tell me you didn't actually write all this over at AR15. If so, you're lucky Wyoming doesn't have a red flag law.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And to explain this behaviour?

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And apparently a daughter can, too.

Awesome pic!

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

LOL.

John, I’m her father. And I’m in that picture so the likes of people like you understand that. Oh, and the head of a deer like that is actually heavy. Lol.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Well she got it done (holding the head) so again it's weird to take a picture posing with a head not yours plus posting the picture on the web with no explanation except you're in the picture and holding the head. Added in you have been posting other pictures in this thread acting like you had taken the animals.

I can say you don't add anything to the picture and nobody knew she took the buck until you posted it later.

It's also weird to blur out faces.

So we can assume you didn't take any of the game you posted in the pictures with blurred faces because you sure showed your mug with somebody elses buck.

Strange attempt at a flex?

Any way as this has become a Leupold picture thread here is decent buck Jeff shot. I took the picture but managed to let him hold the head to not be weird.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer on the assembly line with a complete disregard to the customer.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) whips these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al[/quote👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Please tell the board of what the point is of the photos of scope parts and how they are now ahead of the curve.

It should be funny

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer on the assembly line with a complete disregard to the customer.

Good shootin'

-Al[/quote👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

So what scope manufacturer refuses to warranty a scope after it has been mounted on a rifle?

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

What a great pic.....easy to see that you're proud of her and visa versa.

My youngest daughter and I made lots of lifetime memories hunting pheasants and fox. She loved pheasant hunting the most....watching our dog work.

Congratulations.

-Al

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

So what scope manufacturer refuses to warranty a scope after it has been mounted on a rifle?

No doubt they would have honored the warranty. In fact, I pushed him to send it back. But he was done with them and that was that. He's a pretty hard hunter and doesn't suffer gear he's not confident in.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

What a great pic.....easy to see that you're proud of her and visa versa.

My youngest daughter and I made lots of lifetime memories hunting pheasants and fox. She loved pheasant hunting the most....watching our dog work.

Congratulations.

-Al

That really is a fantastic pic. Nothing like family hunting pics! Congrats to you both.

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished to help them with the topic or decisions?

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

What a great pic.....easy to see that you're proud of her and visa versa.

My youngest daughter and I made lots of lifetime memories hunting pheasants and fox. She loved pheasant hunting the most....watching our dog work.

Congratulations.

-Al

Yep.

Of all the silly 'envy' talk tossed around, this is one of the few pics that should bring that emotion forward (some won't understand why, and more's the pity for them).
I'll never have another 'first buck' with my son, but there's always the 'next buck'.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

John, a 16 year old girl did kill it. She would be the small human to my right. Im also curious where you have seen me comment on Leupold? But yes, you were whining about not seeing me. So boo!

LOL.

What kind of a shit bird holds the head on someone elses Big Whitetail. Please post a nice picture of the girl and her great buck minus you hogging the shot. Is it possible you never took a picture of her and her buck?

Post up me wanting to see your face. I just commented that you were blurring faces.

Which is weirdo behaviour just like holding someone elses antlers like you had killed the buck.

Glad you have come around around on Leupold. I call that progress.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Great info as usual Al, thanks for posting. Is there an easy was to refill them with nitrogen after the work? Just curious, it's heavier than air nature could help facilitate that it seems.

LOL.

This will be fun. It sure wasn't Argon in that scope, if you know what I mean.

John, I’m her father. And I’m in that picture so the likes of people like you understand that. Oh, and the head of a deer like that is actually heavy.

Gluckgluck4000 aka the Gizard aka the Gullet wouldn't know about having children, raising them, and helping them along their path of becoming hunters. He is a pathetic man that doesn't have a family.

Kick back another fifth AzzBurns....all you have is your ego. Lol

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handys_For_Hobos

Gluckgluck4000 aka the Gizard aka the Gullet wouldn't know about having children, raising them, and helping them along their path of becoming hunters. He is a pathetic man that doesn't have a family.

Kick back another fifth AzzBurns....all you have is your ego. Lol

Well to be fair it's a pretty big ego. I always wonder if pretending I am drunk makes it hurt less?

I would feel even dumber losing a battle of wits to a guy under the influence but not everybody is the same.

How did that thread where you spouted off about bullet blowups work out?

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjobs_Never_Been_Hunting

I don’t jump in these crapfests ever. They can be amusing but you know what they say about wrestling with pigs.

For JohnBurns though … I would hope he understands he comes across as a huge a** hole.

Originally Posted by elkrazy

I don’t jump in these crapfests ever. They can be amusing but you know what they say about wrestling with pigs.

For JohnBurns though … I would hope he understands he comes across as a huge a** hole.

He has to know

Originally Posted by moosemike

Originally Posted by elkrazy

I don’t jump in these crapfests ever. They can be amusing but you know what they say about wrestling with pigs.

For JohnBurns though … I would hope he understands he comes across as a huge a** hole.

He has to know

Calling out fake pictures does tend to sting a few Fan Bois.

Imagine swallowing a bunch of lies for many years and having to face reality.

Gonna sting a bit but it's all for the better.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I always wonder if pretending I am drunk makes it hurt less?

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjobs_Never_Been_Hunting

Were you pretending to be under the influence here?

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I have a bunch of Puked Reupold glass that I should yard apart,to see WTF.

If you want to have a lash at one, they're pretty basic. The hardest gizmos to have are an assortment of small internal spanners. I use a Lisle 49200 snap ring pliers and file the tips to flats that fit the retainer ring. If the lock ring is really deep, it's no biggie to make longer tips to engage the drive cuts. There's no real standard drive flat size even among the same brands or so it seems.

This erector has been in my range box for years...works well to examine a target w/o touching it and see if either a rescore or a big sigh of relief comes next. It's from the flagship line of a major manufacturer.

Good shootin' -Al

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

That’s an awesome picture and epic moment
Thanks for posting it

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

LOL.

John, I’m her father. And I’m in that picture so the likes of people like you understand that. Oh, and the head of a deer like that is actually heavy. Lol.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Well she got it done (holding the head) so again it's weird to take a picture posing with a head not yours plus posting the picture on the web with no explanation except you're in the picture and holding the head. Added in you have been posting other pictures in this thread acting like you had taken the animals.

I can say you don't add anything to the picture and nobody knew she took the buck until you posted it later.

It's also weird to blur out faces.

So we can assume you didn't take any of the game you posted in the pictures with blurred faces because you sure showed your mug with somebody elses buck.

Strange attempt at a flex?

Any way as this has become a Leupold picture thread here is decent buck Jeff shot. I took the picture but managed to let him hold the head to not be weird.

Isn’t that the guy that owns Wyoming Arms?

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I have a bunch of Puked Reupold glass that I should yard apart,to see WTF.

If you want to have a lash at one, they're pretty basic. The hardest gizmos to have are an assortment of small internal spanners. I use a Lisle 49200 snap ring pliers and file the tips to flats that fit the retainer ring. If the lock ring is really deep, it's no biggie to make longer tips to engage the drive cuts. There's no real standard drive flat size even among the same brands or so it seems.

Good shootin' -Al

Any damage or defect in that case points directly to the user. He just doesn't say that none of his equipment holds up. One good bender, throwing it around on the rocks, and it's time to place an order and hit the supply closet for a backup bucket-o-crap optiq.

Just adds another verse to "99 junk rifles on the wall". Take one down, throw it around. 100 junk rifles on the wall.

Al,

Send me a parts list if you would. Hint

Nice day to fly,so I am. Hint.

To be continued. Hint……………

Originally Posted by nofamilyBurns

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Gluckgluck4000 aka the Gizard aka the Gullet wouldn't know about having children, raising them, and helping them along their path of becoming hunters. He is a pathetic man that doesn't have a family.

Kick back another fifth AzzBurns....all you have is your ego. Lol

Well to be fair it's a pretty big ego. I always wonder if pretending I am drunk makes it hurt less?

I would feel even dumber losing a battle of wits to a guy under the influence but not everybody is the same.

Hey fat piece of s hit, I'm going hunting this weekend, want to tag along? No horses though, you have to bring yer big boy pants to keep up. Which for you is probably size 42. No reupolds either.....and no booze. I hear they make medication to stave off the detox tremors...

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al

Originally Posted by Japlvr

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

LOL.

Sure it's a Leupold bashing post. Nothing in the post is "observation", just your negative opinion based on what you have read on the internet.

The very definition of a self licking ice cream cone.

Who do you think made the scope Al Numbnutz took apart? When do you think it was made?

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished?

Originally Posted by drunkcawksuckerwithnofamily

Sure it's a Leupold bashing post.

You misspelled "Reupold", drunk f uck.

Thanks , Brother Al, for sharing your vast optical knowledge .

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Thanks , Brother Al, for sharing your vast optical knowledge .

Originally Posted by Japlvr

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

It’s nice to see this stuff that Al is posting.

This seems to work pretty well for Mark Gordon and the guys at SAC, and pretty simple to boot. Anyone tried one?

https://shortactioncustoms.com/product/final-scope-level/

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

It’s nice to see this stuff that Al is posting.

How do pics of a wire crosshair on a table or adjustment internals help you?

Of interest is what quality control method scope manufacturers use.

In Als example photos the method is likely not 100% inspection for every individual component. In that example a TQM method might be in place relying on the ability and attention of the person assembling that part. That is problematic as people either intentionally (corporate sabotage) or through error produce product that is defective, out of specification.

It's common in some manufacturing to use a statistical interval for component or assembly inspection. The goal is 100% defect free assemblies. But, the cost department gets in on the action and sets a goal where a number of defective assemblies are acceptable. This is a measure of how much warranty/customer satisfaction is impacted. If 1 out of 1000 defects result in warranty/customer dissatisfaction that's aok.

This is common. Those 999 customers are satisfied, the 1 customer, well so what.

Originally Posted by Japlvr

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.

Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin'

-Al

Originally Posted by Japlvr

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

LOL.

Sure it's a Leupold bashing post. Nothing in the post is "observation", just your negative opinion based on what you have read on the internet.

The very definition of a self licking ice cream cone.

Who do you think made the scope Al Numbnutz took apart? When do you think it was made?

My observation with the Leupolds (that I previously owned) vs the brands that I now own are as follows:

My 3 Nikon Monarchs (hunting) scopes are not only clearer but track perfectly.

My Sightron S3 (target & hunting) scopes are not only clearer but track perfectly.

My Nightforce Benchrest scopes are not only clearer but track perfectly.

My March fixed power target scope is not only clearer, it also tracks perfectly.

I won't be purchasing any more Leupold products, which I'm sure you don't give 2 craps about.

By the way, Al Nyhus has forgotten more about "precision shooting" than you will ever know. FACT!!!!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished?

It’s couched like a “gotcha” question, but Rick really is this stupid.

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished?

It’s couched like a “gotcha” question, but Rick really is this stupid.

What’s really funny is that no one, including Al, has an answer

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished?

It’s couched like a “gotcha” question, but Rick really is this stupid.

What’s really funny is that no one, including Al, has an answer

😂😂😂

I'm sitting here laughing at you imagining your beet red face as you snarl at the keyboard. Have a cocktail, calm down, relax. It's ok that you choose Leupold products, really, it is.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished?

It’s couched like a “gotcha” question, but Rick really is this stupid.

What’s really funny is that no one, including Al, has an answer

😂😂😂

The answer is so simple it hardly merits a response, but he shows a random, immediately available to him example of erector adjustments that were never properly installed or tested. Their improper installation. (The outer ring bearing and wearing on the erector) damaged the surface contact area of the assembly, and would always affect the tracking of the scope. It would manifest itself in what so many typically complain about with their scopes—-erratic tracking. Bumps on the surface make radical jumps while adjusting. As Stick experienced tracking problems, it was pretty relevant. More so than Pictures where someone shot something the size of a bathtub from distance.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

How are readers now "ahead of the curve" after your pictures?

What have the photos accomplished?

It’s couched like a “gotcha” question, but Rick really is this stupid.

What’s really funny is that no one, including Al, has an answer

😂😂😂

Now that's not true.

I have an answer to question #2. Jack Shit.

It's litterally hilarious that a few tards look at those rando pictures and hallucinate they have been enlightened and now are "ahead of the curve".

It's easy to bull shit the Fan Bois but that won't work on the players.

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

It's easy to bull shit the Fan Bois but that won't work on the players.

Since you are the ultimate fan boy, you would know. Go suck off some retired sf dudes....f ucking choad

Pretty funny you have to give people free guns to hang with them lol

When was a scope with this wire reticle made?

1960?

How many people on this thread have one and hunt or compete with it?

LMFAO!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

When was a scope with this wire reticle made?

1960?

How many people on this thread have one and hunt or compete with it?

LMFAO! [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

LMAO….” Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.”

Surely I’m not the only one who got this.

Originally Posted by SLM

LMAO….” Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.”

Surely I’m not the only one who got this.

Yep, me too. Knew exactly who M.C.P'er reference was.

No clear winner yet. You guys sure spend a lot of time pissing on each other over nothing.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

When was a scope with this wire reticle made?

1960?

How many people on this thread have one and hunt or compete with it?

LMFAO! [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

🤣

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

It's common in some manufacturing to use a statistical interval for component or assembly inspection. The goal is 100% defect free assemblies. But, the cost department gets in on the action and sets a goal where a number of defective assemblies are acceptable. This is a measure of how much warranty/customer satisfaction is impacted. If 1 out of 1000 defects result in warranty/customer dissatisfaction that's aok.

This is common. Those 999 customers are satisfied, the 1 customer, well so what.

Leupold builds to a very minimum standard.
Hopes you dont use it much.
Service is always there to patch up the mess.
They have been rolling this way a very long time.
dave

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

No clear winner yet. You guys sure spend a lot of time pissing on each other over nothing.

It's not as bad as your (KSMITH) Stolen Valor or fake claims to be a SEAL but faked pictures of a faked test is pretty bad.

Sockpuppets are also pretty bad, KSMITH.

Oops!

Oops again
Still no Leupold

Originally Posted by raghorn

I will allow you to use other scopes. Lots of good optics.

You will notice those who have great luck with Leupold don't attack other brands. We wish you well and good luck.

I can't help but notice you went to the LiL Fish school of stock painting. You might want to fix that shit.

And address that duct tape drop chart. It makes my eye twitch.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I can't help but notice you went to the LiL Fish school of stock painting. You might want to fix that shit.

And address that duct tape drop chart. It makes my eye twitch.

LOLOLOLOL

And again!
Still no Leupold in sight

Originally Posted by raghorn

And again!
Still no Leupold in sight

LOLOLOLOL

Originally Posted by raghorn

And again!
Still no Leupold in sight

Your wife has pretty fingernails

🤣

The rub comes from me having Leupolds on about every rifle I owned at one time.
I’ve had and shot dozens of them and in all fairness they were at one time some of the best you could get especially for a set and forget scope.
However times have changed and other brands have improved and surpassed most of their wares.
That is especially true when dialing.
I wish it weren’t so but it is what it is.

That move is about all you got.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Your wife has pretty fingernails

🤣

Wow.

I was gonna go there but it seemed a bit harsh.

Nice soft hands, and kinda small.

Hope everyone is laughing. Just havin fun.

Yep. Couple decades ago I had a M8 6x on a 30-06 for Wisconsin whitetail. Solid scope. It went down the road though.

Originally Posted by raghorn

That move is about all you got.

Not really

Originally Posted by raghorn

The rub comes from me having Leupolds on about every rifle I owned at one time.
I’ve had and shot dozens of them and in all fairness they were at one time some of the best you could get especially for a set and forget scope.
However times have changed and other brands have improved and surpassed most of their wares.
That is especially true when dialing.
I wish it weren’t so but it is what it is.

Yet very many of us dial Leupolds most every day.

Wonder how that works?

And we don't feel a need to attack other brands of optics.

Oops!

I don’t look at it as attacking a “brand” I look at it kinda like walking down the street and stepping in a pile of dog [bleep]
And pointing out to my friend that it’s there so he won’t step in it.

Remember I’ve owned and heavily used them

You got anything from THIS decade ?

Again I’m not defending a certain brand as I own and use multiples.
But [bleep] is [bleep] and I’ve had to many leupolds that wouldn’t track to ever step in that [bleep] again.

Originally Posted by raghorn

You got anything from THIS decade ?

No. I accomplished my goals of Winning National Matches in the last

😁

Originally Posted by JohnnyGullet

And address that duct tape drop chart. It makes my eye twitch.

I hate to break it to you, but that's from the lack of booze. Probably been two hours since yer last drink......precursor to the dt's....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

You got anything from THIS decade ?

No. I accomplished my goals of Winning National Matches in the last

😁

I had a Leupold on the rifles too

Weird

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

Lots of good optics out there. It’s great

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

You got anything from THIS decade ?

No. I accomplished my goals of Winning National Matches in the last

😁

Originally Posted by raghorn

Again I’m not defending a certain brand as I own and use multiples.
But [bleep] is [bleep] and I’ve had to many leupolds that wouldn’t track to ever step in that [bleep] again.

Your staged pictures show you are obviously heavily invested in bashing Leupold. It's irrational.

Objectively, Leupold has a very good track record in competition, Millitary, and those of us who dial on game.

I always get a good chuckle when Randos who never post any game or field pictures whine about my pictures.

Sorry you couldn't get Leupolds to work but in fairness you could have bought good rifles.

Just Sayin.

I could have bought more expensive rifles
But not better !

Originally Posted by raghorn

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

By the way, which scopes did you use to win your national matches or kill animals at Long Range?

Have any pictures of same?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

By the way, which scopes did you use to win your national matches or kill animals at Long Range?

Have any pictures of same?

I, also, would like to see those pictures.

Hopefully with less soft, small hands. That's a bit creepy.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

By the way, which scopes did you use to win your national matches or kill animals at Long Range?

Have any pictures of same?

I, also, would like to see those pictures.

Hopefully with less soft, small hands. That's a bit creepy.

Yeah. Pics of Woke factory rifles on a bench with hands in the frame of a gender studies major at a community college are weird

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

By the way, which scopes did you use to win your national matches or kill animals at Long Range?

Have any pictures of same?

I, also, would like to see those pictures.

Hopefully with less soft, small hands. That's a bit creepy.

Oops!

That one has a Brux BTW

Originally Posted by Johnnygotnofamily

. That's a bit creepy.

Much like the look in your eyes when a retired sf dude is around. Red faced fat f uck lol lol

How was Christmas with your nonexistent family lol lol

Originally Posted by raghorn

Oops!

Well your user name is sure a good fit. Nice buck.

I'll bet the shot really was taxing on your optic.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

Well you might want to brush up on scope evolution cause they’ve gotten better.
And Leupold ain’t at the top any more.

By the way, which scopes did you use to win your national matches or kill animals at Long Range?

Have any pictures of same?

I, also, would like to see those pictures.

Hopefully with less soft, small hands. That's a bit creepy.

Oops!

You gutshot a dink on a road?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I'll bet the shot really was taxing on your optic.

Much like your fat azz is taxing on the poor horse you have haul you around.

Is your neck still as fat as your head?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You gutshot a dink on a road?

You prefer gluckgluck4000's nutshot on a back road, in the land of enchantment...lol

Brother Al really adds good optical information to the forum. That’s a lot more than Brothers Burns and Camuglia can say .

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You gutshot a dink on a road?

You prefer gluckgluck4000's nutshot on a back road, in the land of enchantment...lol

Homoerotic fantasies noted.

😆

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

That’s an awesome picture and epic moment
Thanks for posting it

Great picture of a memory that will last forever in both hunters. Absolute slammer of a whitetail.

Congratulations to you both.

Frank

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

😆

^^^^ is that the face you made when Johnny Walker hit it?

the threads are so awesome late at night. some guy still got just dripping off ther chin or just too drunk to answer.. most of us know who some of the best champions are that actually shoot. but them guys will get lucky wants them all also do really good and congratulations...

maybe the others become has been but are pretty much contemplating suicide sucking a Glock which they should actually complete the task.

and lot of other people want to listen to learn more and share experiences..

but when the drunken clown show shows up it gets pretty hard to do

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Al really adds good optical information to the forum. That’s a lot more than Brothers Burns and Camuglia can say .

Leave Burns and Cumaglia alone for now, they're engaged in posting foreplay together. Imagine the PM's between them later this evening. Gag

Originally Posted by l’m-a-dolt

the threads are so awesome late at night. some guy still got just dripping off ther chin or just too drunk to answer.. most of us know who some of the best champions are that actually shoot. but them guys will get lucky wants them all also do really good and congratulations...

maybe the others become has been but are pretty much contemplating suicide sucking a Glock which they should actually complete the task.

and lot of other people want to listen to learn more and share experiences..

but when the drunken clown show shows up it gets pretty hard to do

I’maDolt. The gift that just keeps on giving.

😂

Still no leupolds

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-a-dolt

the threads are so awesome late at night. some guy still got just dripping off ther chin or just too drunk to answer.. most of us know who some of the best champions are that actually shoot. but them guys will get lucky wants them all also do really good and congratulations...

maybe the others become has been but are pretty much contemplating suicide sucking a Glock which they should actually complete the task.

and lot of other people want to listen to learn more and share experiences..

but when the drunken clown show shows up it gets pretty hard to do

I’maDolt. The gift that just keeps on giving.

😂

you are such the ultimate piece of [bleep] [bleep] sucking Burns cock you have no class or dignification at all.

it must be so sad to be you..

you and burns are both fixing to suck start a Glock sometime in the next couple years

you both will blow your brains out somewhere that nobody else will understand except the [bleep] have been [bleep] you both in the ass you two are a couple pieces of real [bleep]

ShamWow

+P

Originally Posted by raghorn

Still no leupolds

…or Long Range game taken, Long Range targets impacted, Long Range Matches Won

But plenty of limp-wristed stocks.

#winning

#LOL

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-a-dolt

the threads are so awesome late at night. some guy still got just dripping off ther chin or just too drunk to answer.. most of us know who some of the best champions are that actually shoot. but them guys will get lucky wants them all also do really good and congratulations...

maybe the others become has been but are pretty much contemplating suicide sucking a Glock which they should actually complete the task.

and lot of other people want to listen to learn more and share experiences..

but when the drunken clown show shows up it gets pretty hard to do

I’maDolt. The gift that just keeps on giving.

😂

you are such the ultimate piece of [bleep] [bleep] sucking Burns cock you have no class or dignification at all.

it must be so sad to be you..

you and burns are both fixing to suck start a Glock sometime in the next couple years

you both will blow your brains out somewhere that nobody else will understand except the [bleep] have been [bleep] you both in the ass you two are a couple pieces of real [bleep]

Einstein has spoken

😂😂😂

Killing ain’t hard !
So easy my 10 year old could do it !

Originally Posted by ldholton

you are such the ultimate piece of [bleep] [bleep] sucking Burns cock you have no class or dignification at all.

it must be so sad to be you..

you and burns are both fixing to suck start a Glock sometime in the next couple years

you both will blow your brains out somewhere that nobody else will understand except the [bleep] have been [bleep] you both in the ass you two are a couple pieces of real [bleep]

I don't think this good for your mental health.

Maybe check out that Ignore Feature Rick Bin has given you.

You're way in over your head and drowning.

If Brother Jeff loses Brother John, it’ll be up schidt creek without a paddle as many cans and rifles as he is selling.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by ldholton

you are such the ultimate piece of [bleep] [bleep] sucking Burns cock you have no class or dignification at all.

it must be so sad to be you..

you and burns are both fixing to suck start a Glock sometime in the next couple years

you both will blow your brains out somewhere that nobody else will understand except the [bleep] have been [bleep] you both in the ass you two are a couple pieces of real [bleep]

I don't think this good for your mental health.

Maybe check out that Ignore Feature Rick Bin has given you.

You're way in over your head and drowning.

lmao

you're about to go down mother [bleep] you ain't got the balls to meet up to nobody face to face do you it's like your little butt buddy and I'm still not convinced which one's actually butt [bleep] the other one they're both piece of [bleep] very simple

Originally Posted by raghorn

Killing ain’t hard !
So easy my 10 year old could do it !

Great picture. Congratulations to the hunter.

Frank

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by ldholton

you are such the ultimate piece of [bleep] [bleep] sucking Burns cock you have no class or dignification at all.

it must be so sad to be you..

you and burns are both fixing to suck start a Glock sometime in the next couple years

you both will blow your brains out somewhere that nobody else will understand except the [bleep] have been [bleep] you both in the ass you two are a couple pieces of real [bleep]

I don't think this good for your mental health.

Maybe check out that Ignore Feature Rick Bin has given you.

You're way in over your head and drowning.

Good call.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Killing ain’t hard !
So easy my 10 year old could do it !

That's a nice bear. Good for you to not horn in on the picture.

She looks like much to nice a young lady to be your hand model.

Oops

All 22 Creeds sporting brux, Pacnor, and x caliber
Oops

And just to show I use to use them, there IS a Leupold in this picture

Originally Posted by raghorn

And just to show I use to use them, there IS a Leupold in this picture

Nice Bear.

I have to say you're quite a bit prettier than I figured.

That explains those hands.

At least we all agree Leupold gets it done.

Laffin
At least you can be funny at times

Originally Posted by raghorn

And just to show I use to use them, there IS a Leupold in this picture

Interesting color schemes on the rifles, but on the bright side, you don’t need to wear hunter orange

The woke rifles would be seen by game at a mile around here. Nothing like shiny silver barrels

Are you also a lumberjack?

somebody seem to be deleting their post LOL

Was wondering where you got off to Caligula
No, I’m not a lumberjack.
And no we don’t wear orange .
Or camo for that matter.
We just kill a lot of [bleep] and make it look easy.

But in all fairness I did learn a lot from one. …….. grin

Coral snake stock. Red and yellow, one dead fellow.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Oops

Originally Posted by raghorn

Oops

That's badasss.........

Originally Posted by raghorn

Oops

Holy smokes!!

That is a tank!! I hope that was a legit hunt. Trophy of a lifetime my man.

Running a transport boat on montague and Kodiam I’ve seen a lot of dead blacktails. That things ridiculous.

And that bear is stoopid huge too.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Everything you post emulates stick……

Are you a new sock puppet or possibly a fan boi?

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And apparently a daughter can, too.

Awesome pic!

Dang it! I want to see this buck but it's not showing up.

Thanks
Good genetics for both.
Those bears are just decent bears though
We’ve killed much bigger
I need to find my other phone and get some pics off it

Originally Posted by Rooster7

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

Because I have a face only a mother can love.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And apparently a daughter can, too.

Awesome pic!

Dang it! I want to see this buck but it's not showing up.

Imagine really big and awesome.

Then imagine bigger.

Stick - please run the Trijicon through it's paces.

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Originally Posted by raghorn

Everything you post emulates stick……

Are you a new sock puppet or possibly a fan boi?

Ill give credit where it’s due
I have learned a lot from him and he’s always been more than willing to help when asked.
You can interpret that however you want

Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Originally Posted by raghorn

Everything you post emulates stick……

Are you a new sock puppet or possibly a fan boi?

Ill give credit where it’s due
I have learned a lot from him and he’s always been more than willing to help when asked.
You can interpret that however you want

LMFAO. The mentor the son-in-law and a little dream.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Great info as usual Al, thanks for posting. Is there an easy was to refill them with nitrogen after the work? Just curious, it's heavier than air nature could help facilitate that it seems.

Mike, a whiff of argon in them works pretty good. Argon molecules being larger than nitrogen, it doesn't seep past seals, etc. as easily as nitrogen can. There's always argon at the race shop for the TIG welder.....took this pic today when I was doing some work there. Very little, if any, argon or nitrogen remains in scopes after a while anyway.

Good shootin'

-Al

Thanks for the first hand experience Al.
It’s appreciated as it’s kinda rare these days.

Good pics 'Horn. That buck on the 4 wheeler is fantastic!

BTW, one of those 22 creeds wants to come home!

Hope you had a great Christmas

Christmas was great!
And I love those rifles.
Not much out there that will compete/perform with them even though I’m still slumming 75’s.
I hope you had a great Christmas and also a Happy new Year!

Thanks to Al Nyhus for his sharing in this thread.

Thanks to those who posted photos of mighty fine animals. Memories were made during those hunts, priceless.

Thanks to Mr Stick for kicking off this thread demonstrating a well executed <IMO> TTT test.

This has been an interesting thread.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Christmas was great!
And I love those rifles.
Not much out there that will compete/perform with them even though I’m still slumming 75’s.
I hope you had a great Christmas and also a Happy new Year!

We had a great Christmas, gonna hunt the next few days while the kiddo is still out of school.

I still shoot 75s out of my 223ai and 22 250 ai and don't really want for more. The newest 22 creed is 1 in 7.5 twist , I shoot 88s in it exclusively, they do a good job near and far as well.

75 eld or bthp?

Got a mock 12 spr build that only hammers 75gr bthp. 77gr tmk aren’t terrible but load development is too ez with 75’s..

Flung a pile at rocks, and one into the head but no real world results with em

The 75gr Eld’s are money tho at 223 on deer and ‘lopes and this is well known.

I’m still running original Amax as I have a bunch ratholed.
I’ve killed a boat load of stuff with them and push them pretty hard.
I still believe there’s some kind of magic in that bullet!

Best part of the whole thread is the Leupold spotter that's busted 3 times and still John Jrs go to.
Nothing like needing butt hurt to cry about.

Credit for staying the course.

Test the trijicon it was my pick from the start.

I'm still shooting Amaxs too.

Never had an issue with them whether from a 223 at 400 yards or 22-250 ai at 50 yards. I don't expect exits but they always put the hurt on stuff.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Best part of the whole thread is the Leupold spotter that's busted 3 times and still John Jrs go to.
Nothing like needing butt hurt to cry about.

Credit for staying the course.

Test the trijicon it was my pick from the start.

Unbiased test would be the only request, but that sure ain't happening. HINT.

The Trijicon will "fail" too. It's not on Riar Rarry's pimp list. This was all a game and a shtick to promote his self-proclaimed best "wares" and to try to throw dirt at the competitors. However, it was an epic fail, as usual.

Poor Riar Rarry.

Apologies since its not in among the scopes that Stick has the thread about here, but where would you rank Tract Torics in the list of great vs suck?

Originally Posted by Paradiddle

Stick - please run the Trijicon through it's paces.

I’d like to see him pound on them myself.

He has a 1-8 which is the gold standard in that arena in my opinion.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

As morbid obesity and despair was the result, please tell us what the plan was—as a cautionary tale.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Hard to follow this soap opera. Who is that?

Originally Posted by LSU fan

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Hard to follow this soap opera. Who is that?

Better question is why follow the soap opera. As it stands, we're at the point where people act like nobody else should be allowed to like something they don't like, and also act like deer are hard to kill.

So, clown world.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by LSU fan

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Hard to follow this soap opera. Who is that?

Better question is why follow the soap opera. As it stands, we're at the point where people act like nobody else should be allowed to like something they don't like, and also act like deer are hard to kill.

So, clown world.

…and like Instagram/TikTok Teenagers whose world and self-worth are defined by the pictures they post on social media…

Usually only women use ten year old pictures. Hint

Everything turns into a soap opera. People apparently need melodrama in their lives.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by LSU fan

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Hard to follow this soap opera. Who is that?

Better question is why follow the soap opera. As it stands, we're at the point where people act like nobody else should be allowed to like something they don't like, and also act like deer are hard to kill.

So, clown world.

Yeah, we should probably just call his grandkids a b***ard and move on, but he doesn’t have any.

Nice virtue signal.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by LSU fan

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Hard to follow this soap opera. Who is that?

Better question is why follow the soap opera.

Fair point.

I rather enjoy The Brokedick Spotting Scope Whine,of those "living" vicariously. Hint.

Reupold MK4 Third Puke. Hint.

Prior to sending it off to the VERY busy Reupold Repair Factory,I procured an obvious upgrade,so as to preclude being without a Milscale FFP Spotter. Hint.

The Reupold MK4 FFP Milscale Spotter will set riding the pine,despite the rebuilt Tactical Erector Assembly. Hint.

I too am curious about said Trijicon,but was either too busy yanking Chrome or atmospherics precluded a fair TTT. There are lots of things to like about it,but internals are always my greatest concern. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.........................

Originally Posted by raghorn

Oops

Tell me about these paint jobs my man.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I too am curious about said Trijicon,but was either too busy yanking Chrome or atmospherics precluded a fair TTT. There are lots of things to like about it,but internals are always my greatest concern. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.........................

I have ran a few of mine up and down. I'll be watching to see how you make out with it.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I rather enjoy The Brokedick Spotting Scope Whine,of those "living" vicariously. Hint.

Reupold MK4 Third Puke. Hint.

Prior to sending it off to the VERY busy Reupold Repair Factory,I procured an obvious upgrade,so as to preclude being without a Milscale FFP Spotter. Hint.

The Reupold MK4 FFP Milscale Spotter will set riding the pine,despite the rebuilt Tactical Erector Assembly. Hint.

I too am curious about said Trijicon,but was either too busy yanking Chrome or atmospherics precluded a fair TTT. There are lots of things to like about it,but internals are always my greatest concern. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.........................

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

I like painting them for a several reasons
Firstly I like the fact that they add ALOT of color to a picture.
Also makes it easier to glance at a pic and tell what rifle was used .
Also it helps sort rifles when you have multiples of same.
And occasionally I’ll tell the girls to go grab that blue, green , orange , etc one ……… hard to make a mistake that way.

Spray paint from Walmart and the choices are unlimited.

Originally Posted by raghorn

I like painting them for a several reasons
Firstly I like the fact that they add ALOT of color to a picture.
Also makes it easier to glance at a pic and tell what rifle was used .
Also it helps sort rifles when you have multiples of same.
And occasionally I’ll tell the girls to go grab that blue, green , orange , etc one ……… hard to make a mistake that way.

Spray paint from Walmart and the choices are unlimited.

I'm thinking I need to Eddie van Halen some of my rifles, thanks.

Originally Posted by LightninHopkins

Originally Posted by raghorn

I like painting them for a several reasons
Firstly I like the fact that they add ALOT of color to a picture.
Also makes it easier to glance at a pic and tell what rifle was used .
Also it helps sort rifles when you have multiples of same.
And occasionally I’ll tell the girls to go grab that blue, green , orange , etc one ……… hard to make a mistake that way.

Spray paint from Walmart and the choices are unlimited.

I'm thinking I need to Eddie van Halen some of my rifles, thanks.

That coral snake rifle is growing on me.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Of interest is what quality control method scope manufacturers use.

In Als example photos the method is likely not 100% inspection for every individual component. In that example a TQM method might be in place relying on the ability and attention of the person assembling that part. That is problematic as people either intentionally (corporate sabotage) or through error produce product that is defective, out of specification.

It's common in some manufacturing to use a statistical interval for component or assembly inspection. The goal is 100% defect free assemblies. But, the cost department gets in on the action and sets a goal where a number of defective assemblies are acceptable. This is a measure of how much warranty/customer satisfaction is impacted. If 1 out of 1000 defects result in warranty/customer dissatisfaction that's aok.

This is common. Those 999 customers are satisfied, the 1 customer, well so what/

I have had this very conversation with a friend over the past few weeks, when corporate bonuses are tied to the number of product versus the quality of the product, the quality ultimately suffers. Some people are more concerned about their income and not the corporations they are employed by. If they would concern themselves with the actual quality of the product they are charged with overseeing, the production numbers would increase simply by the smoothness of how product moved thru the facility without interruption.

Originally Posted by raghorn

Laffin
At least you can be funny at times

I did chuckle myself

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

Bumpity

Originally Posted by LSU fan

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Hard to follow this soap opera. Who is that?

That would be gluckgluck4000, aka the Gullet, aka the gizard, aka Johnnygotnofamilyburns.

Gawd dam I feel sorry for the beast of burden that has to haul that whale around...

Ps someone photoshop a snickers in his hands lol

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

Bumpity

I’ll pay round trip shipping as well.

I’m sure the board would be interested in the results

Maybe Mr Stick will sell that scope to you?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Stick will sell that scope to you?

Why are you asking me?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I’ve only had 100+ Reupold’s though. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………..

Weird for someone to buy thousands of dollars worth of product over and over if the product sucks, and then buy another

Offer stands and wouldn’t cost stick a penny but the time to box it up

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Stick will sell that scope to you?

I will buy it LNIB with an inspection period.

LiL Fish could break an anvil in a sandbox so who knows what stupid shit he might do.

He's got that SOB farmer tight on another rifle that one of his Xi specials crapped out on.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Stick will sell that scope to you?

I will buy it LNIB with an inspection period.

LiL Fish could break an anvil in a sandbox so who knows what stupid shit he might do.

New here, is lil fish John Jr?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

Bumpity

I’ll pay round trip shipping as well.

I’m sure the board would be interested in the results

I don't have a dog in this fight or any animosity toward any of the various posters on this thread - but what are the odds that said scope would "track and RTZ" perfectly? 100%? I see zero advantage for him sending it......

Now if you wanted to pay shipping to send it to Al N, I'd be very interested in that.

I'm suspicious myself. Let's just say I have exactly zero Leupolds on my rifles. At one time almost all of them wore a Leupie of one flavor or another.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So:

Is there anybody in the thread other than Rick C who has dialed and killed a critter beyond 600yds? Other than me.

LiL Fish, Al Numbnuts, and DaveTheDumbazz keep posting but have zero experience. Z.E.R.O

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I’ve killed a couple big game species in the 700 yard range, about half a dozen whitetail by dialing, and countless prairie dogs to just over 1,000 yards.

I have won local F-Class matches, PRS style matches, and have placed top 20 on national-level PRS matches. I have been shooting long range since the days of mildot scopes with MOA turrets.

Originally Posted by bwinters

I don't have a dog in this fight or any animosity toward any of the various posters on this thread - but what are the odds that said scope would "track and RTZ" perfectly? 100%?

So you're saying exactly the same odds as an Arken, SuperSniper or Athlon performs perfectly for Stick?

I do believe it would be quite interesting for a few others to have the exact same scope do their thing with it and see what they thought.

my mind form a competitive game that I most do and like the most is the silhouette game. haven't seen an updated list than a couple years but yeah Leopold it's the most used optic, with a fair number of Weaver thrown in and Sightron is becoming more common is probably . That game is not about pure precision but your ability to hold off hand. and what has limited the number of Scopes such as Arken , SS , Athlon and many others is the weight of the scope to make the overall weight requirements for the game. ..

Originally Posted by ldholton

I do believe it would be quite interesting for a few others to have the exact same scope do their thing with it and see what they thought.

my mind form a competitive game that I most do and like the most is the silhouette game. haven't seen an updated list than a couple years but yeah Leopold it's the most used optic, with a fair number of Weaver thrown in and Sightron is becoming more common is probably . That game is not about pure precision but your ability to hold off hand. and what has limited the number of Scopes such as Arken , SS , Athlon and many others is the weight of the scope to make the overall weight requirements for the game. ..

That's the thing: there's a lot of scopes that apparently work for everyone but a certain someone here. And they work in competition, on record. Heck, I've got another Athlon 2-12 on my son's left handed Bergara B14r, he loves that scope on his hunting rifle, so why not use the same on the 22? For under $400 it's a no brainer to me, but it doesn't mean that other scopes don't track repeatedly. I've been impressed lately by the tracking on a few Sightron S3's a few friends have.

The idea that what is being used by literally thousands of people in competition is junk and doesn't work doesn't make sense. Plinkers and "box a year" hunters may not GAF, but people spending the time and money to shoot in competition, especially those doing well, are not going to use junk even if it's given to them.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

Bumpity

I’ll pay round trip shipping as well.

I’m sure the board would be interested in the results

Originally Posted by bwinters

I don't have a dog in this fight or any animosity toward any of the various posters on this thread - but what are the odds that said scope would "track and RTZ" perfectly? 100%? I see zero advantage for him sending it......

Now if you wanted to pay shipping to send it to Al N, I'd be very interested in that.

I'm suspicious myself. Let's just say I have exactly zero Leupolds on my rifles. At one time almost all of them wore a Leupie of one flavor or another.

The offer was for a respected LR gunsmith to test the optic. Impartial 3rd party with a known fixture and known technique.

Conversely Al N has a dog in the fight, is a known "pard" of LiL Fish, and suffers from LDS. He does not have a good testing fixture or a collimater and his techniques are less than "cutting edge".

I do wonder if even Al N could repeat Lil Fish's 3 MOA groups at 50yds so this concept of letting a few different people run that MK V through some testing would be intersting.

Anyone else like a chance to test out that MK V? Could be as simple and quick as shooting a few groups at 50 yds. LiL Fish claimed he could not get better than 3 MOA and it was the optics fault.

Originally Posted by tucsonan

That is all

I wanna see five yard testing . Ten shot group, Brother Burns?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

Bumpity

I’ll pay round trip shipping as well.

I’m sure the board would be interested in the results

Originally Posted by bwinters

I don't have a dog in this fight or any animosity toward any of the various posters on this thread - but what are the odds that said scope would "track and RTZ" perfectly? 100%? I see zero advantage for him sending it......

Now if you wanted to pay shipping to send it to Al N, I'd be very interested in that.

I'm suspicious myself. Let's just say I have exactly zero Leupolds on my rifles. At one time almost all of them wore a Leupie of one flavor or another.

The offer was for a respected LR gunsmith to test the optic. Impartial 3rd party with a known fixture and known technique.

Conversely Al N has a dog in the fight, is a known "pard" of LiL Fish, and suffers from LDS. He does not have a good testing fixture or a collimater and his techniques are less than "cutting edge".

I do wonder if even Al N could repeat Lil Fish's 3 MOA groups at 50yds so this concept of letting a few different people run that MK V through some testing would be intersting.

Anyone else like a chance to test out that MK V? Could be as simple and quick as shooting a few groups at 50 yds. LiL Fish claimed he could not get better than 3 MOA and it was the optics fault.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Hey stick,

If you will send your Mark V to me, or directly to my gunsmith, I’ll be happy to pay for the evaluation to be performed by an impartial party.

We can post the findings how ever they shake out here

Bumpity

I’ll pay round trip shipping as well.

I’m sure the board would be interested in the results

Originally Posted by bwinters

I don't have a dog in this fight or any animosity toward any of the various posters on this thread - but what are the odds that said scope would "track and RTZ" perfectly? 100%? I see zero advantage for him sending it......

Now if you wanted to pay shipping to send it to Al N, I'd be very interested in that.

I'm suspicious myself. Let's just say I have exactly zero Leupolds on my rifles. At one time almost all of them wore a Leupie of one flavor or another.

The offer was for a respected LR gunsmith to test the optic. Impartial 3rd party with a known fixture and known technique.

Conversely Al N has a dog in the fight, is a known "pard" of LiL Fish, and suffers from LDS. He does not have a good testing fixture or a collimater and his techniques are less than "cutting edge".

I do wonder if even Al N could repeat Lil Fish's 3 MOA groups at 50yds so this concept of letting a few different people run that MK V through some testing would be intersting.
.

I wouldn’t discount Al.

His testing is “cutting edge”, using precision Christmas wrapping paper in his “tests”.

Even though he wouldn’t be able to tell if the scope works as designed, he could take that Mark V, dismantle it, and take pictures of random parts to impress the board.

So he’s got that going for him.

😂🤣😝

Thanks ,Brother Al ,for being the only true optical expert here and giving your time so freely to the board. Happy New Year, Al!

OMG! How did I ever shoot an A2 AR?!!!

I was quite happy when the sight tower was within +/- 2MOA of being straight!

Does Fug Stick even own a BR that is capable of holding a rifle straight?

I reckon it plum flattering,the number of times a day,you gals think about me. Hint.

Please keep The Hurt Feeler Reports coming,as you Professional Victims cry aloud. Pardon Splendid Wares that simply exist,as you gals Pretend aloud and "live" vicariously. Hint.

To be continued. Hint......................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It took a rifle that Agg's in the .2's,to 1-1/2"++. Hint.

If I was coaching a Jr shooter (and I feel like I am) and I saw that expanded, horizontally-strung group, I'd tell the kid that he isn't holding the rifle straight up & down each time.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It took a rifle that Agg's in the .2's,to 1-1/2"++. Hint.

If I was coaching a Jr shooter (and I feel like I am) and I saw that expanded, horizontally-strung group, I'd tell the kid that he isn't holding the rifle straight up & down each time.

Thanks, Brother Ty

Imagination and Pretend are fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.

Only a Reupold erector,can take a World Class Rifle from shooting in the .2's,to 1-1/2"+ at 50yds,in killer conditions. Helen Keller can paste a vertical reticle,on a gravity fueled plum line and I'll feign my "surprise" that you can't. Hint.

Bless your heart for Pretending aloud and keep The Brokedick Hurt Feeler Reports coming. Not that you have another "move" available to you. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Imagination and Pretend are fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.

Only a Reupold erector,can take a World Class Rifle from shooting in the .2's,to 1-1/2"+ at 50yds,in killer conditions. Helen Keller can paste a vertical reticle,on a gravity fueled plum line and I'll feign my "surprise" that you can't. Hint.

Bless your heart for Pretending aloud and keep The Brokedick Hurt Feeler Reports coming. Not that you have another "move" available to you. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

So you'll send it to the member who offered to have it professionally tested on their dime, right?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Helen Keller can paste a vertical reticle,on a gravity fueled plum line and I'll feign my "surprise" that you can't.

I think the insinuation was not that you couldn't draw a vertical line, but that your fat ass couldn't hold the rifle vertical while shooting at said Helen Keller drawn line.......

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Only a Reupold erector,can take a World Class Rifle from shooting in the .2's,to 1-1/2"+ at 50yds,in killer conditions. Helen Keller can paste a vertical reticle,on a gravity fueled plum line and I'll feign my "surprise" that you can't. Hint.

Failure to have a consistent cant. A missed 3mph. "Shouldering" the rifle. Poor NPA. Poor reticle focus, astigmatism. Lack of follow through.

I think the list of who can do that contains more than just "Reupold".

If you had ever competed, you might understand.

You Bumbling Brokedick Whining Fhuqktards are a HOOT! Hint.

Keep The Hurt Feeler Reports coming,as you think about me incessantly. Be SURE to start a Thread,when you see your first Vudoo. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Tyrone

If you had ever competed,

He hasn't.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

you might understand.

So he doesn't.

I'm not hurt, Fug Stick. I just think you suk.

I laugh at how you complain about Leupolds, but there you are... buying another and complaining. Hurt feelers over Leupold AGAIN. Genius, those Leupold MFers.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Be SURE to start a Thread,when you see your first Vudoo.

Hard pass. Went Bergara B14r instead. I'll wait for you to explain why it isn't a good option for someone wanting a full-sized, left handed 22......

Ladies,

Keep extolling your very WELL founded Insecurities,as you think about me incessantly,while "living" vicariously. Please keep The Brokedick Hurt Feeler Reports coming. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Be SURE to start a Thread,when you see your first Vudoo.

Hard pass. Went Bergara B14r instead. I'll wait for you to explain why it isn't a good option for someone wanting a full-sized, left handed 22......

Take it to one of those competitions you seem so stuck on and you'll see how it compares to a Vudoo.

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Be SURE to start a Thread,when you see your first Vudoo.

Hard pass. Went Bergara B14r instead. I'll wait for you to explain why it isn't a good option for someone wanting a full-sized, left handed 22......

Take it to one of those competitions you seem so stuck on and you'll see how it compares to a Vudoo.

That's pretty much the whole point. The irony of a guy shilling inexpensive chink scopes while at the same time acting like you need a Vudoo to have fun or compete with an accurate bolt .22lr seems to have gone waaaaaay over your head.

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

If only Riar Rarry could afford some decent 22 ammo, he'd quickly realize what the problem is. The steel case Russian rooster stuff doesn't cut the mustard. Hint.

Put it on a centerfire. If you have one that shoots close to that at 50 yards. Evidently nada

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Hope everyone here had a merry Christmas with their family's.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's.

How do you like the Sig's?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's.

What’s really funny is the Mark V HD that I posted the evaluation sheet for was mounted on a rifle and hunted. It was a once in a lifetime hunt and trusted for that. The results were spectacular.

500 yards

Reality:

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My 16x,made it beyond 20K,before the A/O puked.

Beings it failed,it ain't in the above tally and it is in fact,the only Leupie I've crashed.

Broke a 6x42 on installation,but I knowed better(DD's on skewed bridge height,less eccentrics)..................

Originally Posted by tzone

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's.

How do you like the Sig's?

I was seriously impressed,with the Image Stabilization on those 16x versions(the only I've dabbled). Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Helen Keller can paste a vertical reticle,on a gravity fueled plum line and I'll feign my "surprise" that you can't.

I think the insinuation was not that you couldn't draw a vertical line, but that your fat ass couldn't hold the rifle vertical while shooting at said Helen Keller drawn line.......

This is why I signed up. TFF.

Guys what is a hurt feeling report?
When did all the dicks get busted?
Why is leupold junk but still on the buy list of its haters?
Why do guys with weight problems seem so angry?
Is rag horn, John Jr, aka lil fish, aka sticks, son in law?
Is this place always this hostile?

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Guys what is a hurt feeling report?
When did all the dicks get busted?
Why is leupold junk but still on the buy list of its haters?
Why do guys with weight problems seem so angry?
Is rag horn, John Jr, aka lil fish, aka sticks, son in law?
Is this place always this hostile?

the answer to all your questions is "yes".

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Guys what is a hurt feeling report?
When did all the dicks get busted?
Why is leupold junk but still on the buy list of its haters?
Why do guys with weight problems seem so angry?
Is rag horn, John Jr, aka lil fish, aka sticks, son in law?
Is this place always this hostile?

Jimmy, you have come to the right place.... as for answers to your questions, well .... there are cosmic forces at work here and there are much more questions than answers around here , grasshopper....

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Guys what is a hurt feeling report?
When did all the dicks get busted?
Why is leupold junk but still on the buy list of its haters?
Why do guys with weight problems seem so angry?
Is rag horn, John Jr, aka lil fish, aka sticks, son in law?
Is this place always this hostile?

KSMITH sockpuppet^^^^^^.

Got caught pretending to be a SEAL and claiming STOLEN VALOR. Now he posts as Jimmypop.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by Beaver10

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Flave and 🦫 bang yet?

No Sir.

He’s run off, along with my child support payment.

🦫

You know he's spending the whole check at Florida's finest paraplegic strip club, place is crawling with puzzy.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...st-cameras-for-the-outdoors#Post18998075

qwacker can't afford a decent scope.

I don't see him buying a nice camera anytime in the future.

Sounds a little Alaskan John.

Get your blood pressure checked before you start telling people money grows on trees.

How much cough syrup makes you trip?
A dose of 100-200 mg induces mild stimulation and euphoria. A dose of 200-400 mg leads to stronger euphoria and hallucinations. A dose of 300-600 mg causes loss of motor coordination and visual distortions. A dose of 500-1500 mg leads to out-of-body sensations.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

How much cough syrup makes you trip?
A dose of 100-200 mg induces mild stimulation and euphoria. A dose of 200-400 mg leads to stronger euphoria and hallucinations. A dose of 300-600 mg causes loss of motor coordination and visual distortions. A dose of 500-1500 mg leads to out-of-body sensations.

What kind/brand of cough syrup. I want to try some a'dat.

Just bought that Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44 that's all the rage now. Rest assured I won't post my findings...

Originally Posted by Kimber7man

Just bought that Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44 that's all the rage now. Rest assured I won't post my findings...

You probably won't try to break it just to say you can and do all.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Guys what is a hurt feeling report?
When did all the dicks get busted?
Why is leupold junk but still on the buy list of its haters?
Why do guys with weight problems seem so angry?
Is rag horn, John Jr, aka lil fish, aka sticks, son in law?
Is this place always this hostile?

KSMITH sockpuppet^^^^^^.

Got caught pretending to be a SEAL and claiming STOLEN VALOR. Now he posts as Jimmypop.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by Beaver10

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Flave and 🦫 bang yet?

No Sir.

He’s run off, along with my child support payment.

🦫

You know he's spending the whole check at Florida's finest paraplegic strip club, place is crawling with puzzy.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...st-cameras-for-the-outdoors#Post18998075

qwacker can't afford a decent scope.

I don't see him buying a nice camera anytime in the future.

Sounds a little Alaskan John.

Get your blood pressure checked before you start telling people money grows on trees.

Stolen valor good try John. It's clear that you and John Jr have definitely heisted a couple dozen donuts in your day.
It's a shame to see family fight.

Dont you club seals for fun?

It's funny to watch socks try sooooo hard not to act like themselves.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Always a good time.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Thanks ,Brother Al ,for being the only true optical expert here......

I'm far from that...just a guy that works on stuff. People like Alan Orr, Cheryl Ackerman, the late Wally Siebert, Bill Ackerman and Dick Thomas ...now those people are and were serious experts.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I'm far from that...just a guy that works on his own stuff..

Maybe stick should send the Mark 5 to you. You could take it apart, diagnose the problem, take some pics to post, fix it and squirt some argon in the tube.

Just a suggestion

Heck, since the clowns at Leupold don’t know what they’re doing, maybe they’ll hire you to straighten out their Quality Control

🤷🏿‍♂️

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I'm far from that...just a guy that works on his own stuff..

Maybe stick should send the Mark 5 to you. You could take it apart, diagnose the problem, take some pics to post, fix it and squirt some argon in the tube.

Just a suggestion

Heck, since the clowns at Leupold don’t know what they’re doing, maybe they’ll hire you to straighten out their Quality Control

🤷🏿‍♂️

Wrapping the scope box in Christmas wrapping paper would be a nice touch.

Festive and a grid for home testing.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I'm far from that...just a guy that works on his own stuff..

Maybe stick should send the Mark 5 to you. You could take it apart, diagnose the problem, take some pics to post, fix it and squirt some argon in the tube.

Just a suggestion

Heck, since the clowns at Leupold don’t know what they’re doing, maybe they’ll hire you to straighten out their Quality Control

🤷🏿‍♂️

Wrapping the scope box in Christmas wrapping paper would be a nice touch.

Festive and a grid for home testing.

LMFAO!!!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's.

What’s really funny is the Mark V HD that I posted the evaluation sheet for was mounted on a rifle and hunted. It was a once in a lifetime hunt and trusted for that. The results were spectacular.

500 yards

Any other pictures or details on the ram you can share?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I'm far from that...just a guy that works on his own stuff..

Maybe stick should send the Mark 5 to you. You could take it apart, diagnose the problem, take some pics to post, fix it and squirt some argon in the tube.

Just a suggestion

Heck, since the clowns at Leupold don’t know what they’re doing, maybe they’ll hire you to straighten out their Quality Control

🤷🏿‍♂️

Wrapping the scope box in Christmas wrapping paper would be a nice touch.

Festive and a grid for home testing.

LMFAO!!!

For a lap dog you sure get after it.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I'm far from that...just a guy that works on his own stuff..

Maybe stick should send the Mark 5 to you. You could take it apart, diagnose the problem, take some pics to post, fix it and squirt some argon in the tube.

Just a suggestion

Heck, since the clowns at Leupold don’t know what they’re doing, maybe they’ll hire you to straighten out their Quality Control

🤷🏿‍♂️

Wrapping the scope box in Christmas wrapping paper would be a nice touch.

Festive and a grid for home testing.

LMFAO!!!

For a lap dog you sure get after it.

Poodle bites it, poodle chews it, come-on Guido! Give Me That Dirty Love, That Dirty Love.............

Where did the idiot go?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where did the idiot go?

Which one?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where did the idiot go?

He will ignore for a while to avoid explaining why he won't have the scope tested by a known, well respected, impartial entity for free.

He talks a lot, but won't answer questions if there's any potential to make him look bad.

Or did you mean one of the other idiots???

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😜

Originally Posted by Triggernosis

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where did the idiot go?

Which one?

Beat like a rented mule 😁

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where did the idiot go?

He will ignore for a while to avoid explaining why he won't have the scope tested by a known, well respected, impartial entity for free.

He talks a lot, but won't answer questions if there's any potential to make him look bad.

Or did you mean one of the other idiots???

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😜

NO, you got the right Idiot.

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Originally Posted by tucsonan

Lol

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's.

What’s really funny is the Mark V HD that I posted the evaluation sheet for was mounted on a rifle and hunted. It was a once in a lifetime hunt and trusted for that. The results were spectacular.

500 yards

Any other pictures or details on the ram you can share?

NM once in a lifetime tag drawn by my friend. It was his very first try applying and he drew!

He did not even have a suitable rifle after drawing the tag. He asked me for advice and, of course, told him to build a good rifle with a good barrel and stock

He’s a dedicated bow hunter

He took the advice of a guide friend of his and bout a factory rifle with a 1 MOA guarantee in .300 PRC with factory ammo 🤪

He needed a scope.

A friend who I shoot with had the 3-18 Mark 5 HD 44mm he wasn’t using, so it was purchased

Gun and scope sent to Score High for the precision mount and evaluation. Tested perfect and told him it was the best scope they’ve ever tested. I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here. Same scope stick has. 🤣

San Francisco River unit in the Gila area. 500 yards. 220 ELD-X

It’s on film

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

NM once in a lifetime tag drawn by my friend. It was his very first try applying and he drew!

He did not even have a suitable rifle after drawing the tag. He asked me for advice and, of course, told him to build a good rifle with a good barrel and stock

He’s a dedicated bow hunter

He took the advice of a guide friend of his and bout a factory rifle with a 1 MOA guarantee in .300 PRC with factory ammo 🤪

He needed a scope.

A friend who I shoot with had the 3-18 Mark 5 HD 44mm he wasn’t using, so it was purchased

Gun and scope sent to Score High for the precision mount and evaluation. Tested perfect and told him it was the best scope they’ve ever tested. I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here. Same scope stick has. 🤣

San Francisco River unit in the Gila area. 500 yards. 220 ELD-X

It’s on film

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Whacking Desert Rams at distance only impresses the Players.

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Where did that idiot go?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Ya gotta take close-ups of 50 year old scope internals and post them. It helps the bois “finish”

😆

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It's funny how you summed up the MK5 HD 3.6-18x so succinctly today,when you simply said "I wouldn't Hunt that". Shoulda nabbed pics of the Image Stabilized Sig Bino's.

What’s really funny is the Mark V HD that I posted the evaluation sheet for was mounted on a rifle and hunted. It was a once in a lifetime hunt and trusted for that. The results were spectacular.

500 yards

Any other pictures or details on the ram you can share?

NM once in a lifetime tag drawn by my friend. It was his very first try applying and he drew!

He did not even have a suitable rifle after drawing the tag. He asked me for advice and, of course, told him to build a good rifle with a good barrel and stock

He’s a dedicated bow hunter

He took the advice of a guide friend of his and bout a factory rifle with a 1 MOA guarantee in .300 PRC with factory ammo 🤪

He needed a scope.

A friend who I shoot with had the 3-18 Mark 5 HD 44mm he wasn’t using, so it was purchased

Gun and scope sent to Score High for the precision mount and evaluation. Tested perfect and told him it was the best scope they’ve ever tested. I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here. Same scope stick has. 🤣

San Francisco River unit in the Gila area. 500 yards. 220 ELD-X

It’s on film

Nice ram even with the sinusitis. What did they age him at?
I killed my Desert Bighorn here in 2006 with my favorite 2.5x 8 purchased in the early 90s. Still working on drawing my Rocky tag. The same scope was converted to CDS with MOA dial around 2011 and just used for my Coues buck this year, one of many its taken over the years on 3 different rifles.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Ya gotta take close-ups of 50 year old scope internals and post them. It helps the bois “finish”

😆

Well LiL Fish wants Al to give him a tool list for wrecking scopes, but with more sophistication than throwing them on the ground like a monkey.

The Fan Bois are going to eat up "LiL Fish and Al's Adventures in Wrecking Optics". Get your ChiCom optics here.

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Meanwhile those that know do.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

NM once in a lifetime tag drawn by my friend. It was his very first try applying and he drew!

He did not even have a suitable rifle after drawing the tag. He asked me for advice and, of course, told him to build a good rifle with a good barrel and stock

He’s a dedicated bow hunter

He took the advice of a guide friend of his and bout a factory rifle with a 1 MOA guarantee in .300 PRC with factory ammo 🤪

He needed a scope.

A friend who I shoot with had the 3-18 Mark 5 HD 44mm he wasn’t using, so it was purchased

Gun and scope sent to Score High for the precision mount and evaluation. Tested perfect and told him it was the best scope they’ve ever tested. I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here. Same scope stick has. 🤣

San Francisco River unit in the Gila area. 500 yards. 220 ELD-X

It’s on film

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Whacking Desert Rams at distance only impresses the Players.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Where did that idiot go?

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

NM once in a lifetime tag drawn by my friend. It was his very first try applying and he drew!

He did not even have a suitable rifle after drawing the tag. He asked me for advice and, of course, told him to build a good rifle with a good barrel and stock

He’s a dedicated bow hunter

He took the advice of a guide friend of his and bout a factory rifle with a 1 MOA guarantee in .300 PRC with factory ammo 🤪

He needed a scope.

A friend who I shoot with had the 3-18 Mark 5 HD 44mm he wasn’t using, so it was purchased

Gun and scope sent to Score High for the precision mount and evaluation. Tested perfect and told him it was the best scope they’ve ever tested. I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here. Same scope stick has. 🤣

San Francisco River unit in the Gila area. 500 yards. 220 ELD-X

It’s on film

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Whacking Desert Rams at distance only impresses the Players.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Where did that idiot go?

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

that would be exactly what they done

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Ya gotta take close-ups of 50 year old scope internals and post them. It helps the bois “finish”

😆

Well LiL Fish wants Al to give him a tool list for wrecking scopes, but with more sophistication than throwing them on the ground like a monkey.

The Fan Bois are going to eat up "LiL Fish and Al's Adventures in Wrecking Optics". Get your ChiCom optics here.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Meanwhile those that know do.

is there a link to the current in business gray bull precision..??

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by raghorn

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

that would be exactly what they done

Which does beg the question: is this about who did what, or is it about what scope(s) work?

Originally Posted by raghorn

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

LOL.

Are you also outraged when someone posts anothers bear?

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Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

NM once in a lifetime tag drawn by my friend. It was his very first try applying and he drew!

He did not even have a suitable rifle after drawing the tag. He asked me for advice and, of course, told him to build a good rifle with a good barrel and stock

He’s a dedicated bow hunter

He took the advice of a guide friend of his and bout a factory rifle with a 1 MOA guarantee in .300 PRC with factory ammo 🤪

He needed a scope.

A friend who I shoot with had the 3-18 Mark 5 HD 44mm he wasn’t using, so it was purchased

Gun and scope sent to Score High for the precision mount and evaluation. Tested perfect and told him it was the best scope they’ve ever tested. I’ve posted the evaluation sheet here. Same scope stick has. 🤣

San Francisco River unit in the Gila area. 500 yards. 220 ELD-X

It’s on film

If only he had faked a TTT on Christmas wrapping paper. That would have swooned the Fan Bois.

Whacking Desert Rams at distance only impresses the Players.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Where did that idiot go?

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

I have been on many hunts that I didn't pull the trigger but did more in preparation and recovery than the one that pulled the trigger. I feel I have the right to converse about it and the pros and cons.

Hell some guys even paint their stocks to match so they can ride the coat tails.

The difference being I own the rifle/scope in the pic
Loaded for the rifle in the pic
Shoot the rifle in the pic to verify dope up to 650 yards
Spotted the bear
Found the bear after the shot
Well you get the idea .

And that is my daughter
So I do have first hand experience with that combo.

I didn’t pay someone to “test it” or post pics of a “friends” animal
If I want to know about any of that I’d have to ask his “friend” for first hand info

You know, the whole I’ve done it myself VS I've heard about it.

Originally Posted by raghorn

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

Well, yeah.

You might want to go back and check the OP since following along is a challenge

The thread is about scopes, particularly a Leupold Mark 5 3-18 HD.

I’ve actually had a Leupold work a time or two if you insist

870 yards.

That’s a picture of me, my dog and a buck. Also evidence of nice scope tracking from a 100 yard zero in 15 mph crosswind across a giant canyon.

Leupold Mark 4 LR ERT 8-25x

840 yards

Leupold Mark 4 M5A2

More evidence of really good tracking. Also evidence of what a precision mount with a bubble level properly installed results in.

That’s an antelope buck. He was not broadside. He was facing me straight on. 1/4 mil hold off for wind and checking the bubble level. Canting results in a miss

It also results in big horizontal “groups” on a 50 yard attempt at a TTT as more dope is dialed into the optic

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

Funny place. You [bleep] tards fight over rifles and scopes when the whole world wants to take them away. Bickering over who's product choice is better seems useless know your enemy seems more in order.

Raghorn that's a very nice bear but one could agree with you that if you can't do your own set up you have no business shooting. Dont tell your kiddo. Hypocrisy is truly blind.
I read that John Jr bought a lathe so you must really be in the honey hole.
Making chips and huffing paint. Some whiskey and it could be ceremonial.

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

This is how the dopes operate. You know that!

😆

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Lol

Botox isn't the only way to keep wrinkles away.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

Well, yeah.

You might want to go back and check the OP since following along is a challenge

The thread is about scopes, particularly a Leupold Mark 5 3-18 HD.

I’ve actually had a Leupold work a time or two if you insist

870 yards.

That’s a picture of me, my dog and a buck. Also evidence of nice scope tracking from a 100 yard zero in 15 mph crosswind across a giant canyon.

Leupold Mark 4 LR ERT 8-25x

840 yards

Leupold Mark 4 M5A2

More evidence of really good tracking. Also evidence of what a precision mount with a bubble level properly installed results in.

That’s an antelope buck. He was not broadside. He was facing me straight on. 1/4 mil hold off for wind and checking the bubble level. Canting results in a miss

It also results in big horizontal “groups” on a 50 yard attempt at a TTT as more dope is dialed into the optic

Yea
Funny how it works. Ive had leupolds that work pretty good .
I’ve also had leupolds that didn’t.
I got tired of working with them and moved on to more reliable wares.
Point being I have had too high of a failure rate with Leupold for me to keep using them.
I arrived at that conclusion by buying and using them myself.
Not by I heard it from ?……or some test done by ?.

Originally Posted by raghorn

I arrived at that conclusion by buying and using them myself.
Not by I heard it from ?……or some test done by ?.

You’re behind the curve

VX 2 6-18 LRD dialed

Originally Posted by raghorn

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by raghorn

So let me get this straight
You post a pic of someone else’s scope tracking results and someone else’s ram?

Well, yeah.

You might want to go back and check the OP since following along is a challenge

The thread is about scopes, particularly a Leupold Mark 5 3-18 HD.

I’ve actually had a Leupold work a time or two if you insist

870 yards.

That’s a picture of me, my dog and a buck. Also evidence of nice scope tracking from a 100 yard zero in 15 mph crosswind across a giant canyon.

Leupold Mark 4 LR ERT 8-25x

840 yards

Leupold Mark 4 M5A2

More evidence of really good tracking. Also evidence of what a precision mount with a bubble level properly installed results in.

That’s an antelope buck. He was not broadside. He was facing me straight on. 1/4 mil hold off for wind and checking the bubble level. Canting results in a miss

It also results in big horizontal “groups” on a 50 yard attempt at a TTT as more dope is dialed into the optic

Yea
Funny how it works. Ive had leupolds that work pretty good .
I’ve also had leupolds that didn’t.
I got tired of working with them and moved on to more reliable wares.
Point being I have had too high of a failure rate with Leupold for me to keep using them.
I arrived at that conclusion by buying and using them myself.
Not by I heard it from ?……or some test done by ?.

I'm sure you have it all figured out.
Chinese glass recommendations are always welcome just don't bite.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Lol

Originally Posted by raghorn

Yea
Funny how it works. Ive had leupolds that work pretty good .
I’ve also had leupolds that didn’t.
I got tired of working with them and moved on to more reliable wares.
Point being I have had too high of a failure rate with Leupold for me to keep using them.
I arrived at that conclusion by buying and using them myself.
Not by I heard it from ?……or some test done by ?.

For what it is worth, don't bother sharing information here as you just get pissed on.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For what it is worth, don't bother sharing information here as you just get pissed on.

Good advice.

Good shootin'

-Al

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For what it is worth, don't bother sharing information here as you just get pissed on.

Good advice.

Good shootin'

-Al

Good to hear from you Al...all the best.

Ps...my SuperTrickler has been released from customs and a local fellow here was silly enough to come around and have a play with my loading gear...it is going to cost him several grand to upgrade (he has the bug).

Originally Posted by raghorn

Yea
Funny how it works. Ive had leupolds that work pretty good .
I’ve also had leupolds that didn’t.
I got tired of working with them and moved on to more reliable wares.
Point being I have had too high of a failure rate with Leupold for me to keep using them.
I arrived at that conclusion by buying and using them myself.
Not by I heard it from ?……or some test done by ?.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For what it is worth, don't bother sharing information here as you just get pissed on.

You're one of the most toxic posters on 24hr CF and you share no information.

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Leupold MK V actually getting used at Long Range.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For what it is worth, don't bother sharing information here as you just get pissed on.

You're one of the most toxic posters on 24hr CF and you share no information.

See you are still here bubble guts...guess you weren't able to get the 22 shorts through all four of those chins.

Cheer up big buddy, New Years is almost here...just in time to share with your family.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For what it is worth, don't bother sharing information here as you just get pissed on.

You're one of the most toxic posters on 24hr CF and you share no information.

See you are still here bubble guts...guess you weren't able to get the 22 shorts through all four of those chins.

Cheer up big buddy, New Years is almost here...just in time to share with your family.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Lol

Daily dose of fat retard

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Oooooh...scary!

What, are you going to eat all my food?

Wake up to yourself you useless fat turd. You were irrelevant when you were hawking your crap and you are irrelevant now you aren't.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's an interesting rule you've choosen for yourself.

From what I've seen, you appear to be a shell of whatever it was you think you used to be.
You seem to be universally despised on this site. Well except for a certain acolyte that seems to receive the same regard you receive, and for the same reasons.
It appears you were banned from AR15.com for threatening to shoot people, and then blamed illness and the-drink for your abhorent posts.
You teach nothing here. You appear to me to be a simple-minded, narcissistic, blowhard that passes on nothing of value. For all his bombastic posts, I've learned far more from Big Stick than from you.

So in following that rule, these are the choices you've made for yourself.

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's an interesting rule you've choosen for yourself.

From what I've seen, you appear to be a shell of whatever it was you think you used to be.
You seem to be universally despised on this site. Well except for a certain acolyte that seems to receive the same regard you receive, and for the same reasons.
It appears you were banned from AR15.com for threatening to shoot people, and then blamed illness and the-drink for your abhorent posts.
You teach nothing here. You appear to me to be a simple-minded, narcissistic, blowhard that passes on nothing of value. For all his bombastic posts, I've learned far more from Big Stick than from you.

So in following that rule, these are the choices you've made for yourself.

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100%

Jerry has turned into Newman !

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's an interesting rule you've choosen for yourself.

From what I've seen, you appear to be a shell of whatever it was you think you used to be.
You seem to be universally despised on this site. Well except for a certain acolyte that seems to receive the same regard you receive, and for the same reasons.
It appears you were banned from AR15.com for threatening to shoot people, and then blamed illness and the-drink for your abhorent posts.
You teach nothing here. You appear to me to be a simple-minded, narcissistic, blowhard that passes on nothing of value. For all his bombastic posts, I've learned far more from Big Stick than from you.

So in following that rule, these are the choices you've made for yourself.

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it's not just this website it's many when you start googling up a few things or doing a little name research..
.

Irony: sticky has been banned from, well, everywhere but here, also.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any effect on how a scope tracks though......

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD making his monkey dance for the bumps

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

Originally Posted by goalie

Irony: sticky has been banned from, well, everywhere but here, also.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any effect on how a scope tracks though......

To be fair I am only banned on ARF com.

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's an interesting rule you've choosen for yourself.

From what I've seen, you appear to be a shell of whatever it was you think you used to be.
You seem to be universally despised on this site. Well except for a certain acolyte that seems to receive the same regard you receive, and for the same reasons.
It appears you were banned from AR15.com for threatening to shoot people, and then blamed illness and the-drink for your abhorent posts.
You teach nothing here. You appear to me to be a simple-minded, narcissistic, blowhard that passes on nothing of value. For all his bombastic posts, I've learned far more from Big Stick than from you.

So in following that rule, these are the choices you've made for yourself.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD making his monkey dance for the bumps

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

Originally Posted by goalie

Irony: sticky has been banned from, well, everywhere but here, also.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any effect on how a scope tracks though......

To be fair I am only banned on ARF com.

Was that for threatening to hunt down and kill bump stock users?

Originally Posted by MrWilson

Jerry has turned into Newman !

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What a worthless fat loser.

Group A: I have had success with product A, therefore everybody who claims product A failed them is a liar.

Group B: I've had product A fail, therefore all of product A is junk.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Group A: I have had success with product A, therefore everybody who claims product A failed them is a liar.

Group B: I've had product A fail, therefore all of product A is junk.

I think you have the gist of it.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

I'd actually prefer the mk 5 3.6-18 work as it should. They don't. Why pay 2k for something that has been shown time after time to fail?

Originally Posted by drop_point

Group A: I have had success with product A, therefore everybody who claims product A failed them is a liar.

Group B: I've had product A fail, therefore all of product A is junk.

Logical fallacy of the false dichotomy

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

I'd actually prefer the mk 5 3.6-18 work as it should. They don't. Why pay 2k for something that has been shown time after time to fail?

There is the warranty department to fix those. Like Vortex has a warranty department too.

But, I prefer to not have to use the warranty department and use reliable wares. Hint.

My hopes were that my MK5 3.6-18x would track,repeat and hold zero. It simply did not,because it can not and I was "asking" very little of it,aboard a World Class platform and 25rds of 22LR was wayyyyy too much for it to "handle". Hint.

It took said platform from shooting in the .2's with it's mainstay 5-20x HD MQ FFP LitBitch,to 1-1/2" patterns. Hint.

Such things reliably Unkchunt Whining Brokedicks,Professional Victims and those "living" vicariously. None of which,ain't not funnier than fhuqk! Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

I'd actually prefer the mk 5 3.6-18 work as it should. They don't. Why pay 2k for something that has been shown time after time to fail?

I spent $2500 on an illuminated Mark 6 3-18x when they supposedly fixed the turrets/tracking. I love the scope for the size and weight. Its been back to Leupold three times. Once, it took three months to be repaired. Their excuse was there were going to actually shoot it, and there was snow on their range. I was unimpressed with the warranty/customer service on that expensive paperweight. The last trip back it seems to work now and I did use it to kill a couple animals at 700+. However, taking that same rifle to a mile, tracking error was large enough I couldn't connect. I put a PMII off my Accuracy International on the rifle and hits happened.

Originally Posted by goalie

Irony: sticky has been banned from, well, everywhere but here, also.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any effect on how a scope tracks though......

that's actually true no disagreement from me anyway..

the real irony here for me I have several scopes probable like 8 or 10 nothing newer than a VX II - III.. and one somewhat newer Mark AR 3-9x40 . I've had zero issues. except for the mark AR does currently have a separated crosshair. I need to get it sent in I just have it..

but it's not just here but there are several places throughout the internet bitching about the newer Leupolds not cracking correctly and not holding up.. so I don't know if they have a parts problem a real problem or just what. or is it people are mounting optics not as they should with too much torque and such which actually John Burns did hint toward earlier on in this thread..
I do remember there was a certain member here that always talking about mounting scope and he was using like 80 in pounds on the rings. maybe there's some rings out there that require that but not that I know of that sounds a bit tight to me...

and Leupold as long recommended not mounting a ring within I forget the exact distance of the turrets but leave it some space don't mount it right up on the turret area and don't mount it right up on the bell and don't mount it right up on the power ring...

which leads me to another question nobody can really answer are the newer Scopes less forgiving on how they're mounted and compounding that issue?

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD making his monkey dance for the bumps

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

Originally Posted by goalie

Irony: sticky has been banned from, well, everywhere but here, also.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any effect on how a scope tracks though......

To be fair I am only banned on ARF com.

Was that for threatening to hunt down and kill bump stock users?

Nope.

Unspecified personal attacks.

I was good at making the monkey dance over there and one of the site staff hated dancing.

But you will keep on being a Lying Liar becasue it just who you lying liars do.

That and they have no pictures.

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Everyone knows LiL Fish is lying and faked her tall target test.

That's why she won't let anyone else test that MK V.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

I'd actually prefer the mk 5 3.6-18 work as it should. They don't. Why pay 2k for something that has been shown time after time to fail?

I spent $2500 on an illuminated Mark 6 3-18x when they supposedly fixed the turrets/tracking. I love the scope for the size and weight. Its been back to Leupold three times. Once, it took three months to be repaired. Their excuse was there were going to actually shoot it, and there was snow on their range. I was unimpressed with the warranty/customer service on that expensive paperweight. The last trip back it seems to work now and I did use it to kill a couple animals at 700+. However, taking that same rifle to a mile, tracking error was large enough I couldn't connect. I put a PMII off my Accuracy International on the rifle and hits happened.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD making his monkey dance for the bumps

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Funny how the fact that someone referencing an animal taken at 500 yards with the exact scope someone else is bashing as junk is ignored, all while irrelevant stuff on the periphery is focused on like a freaking laser beam.

Kinda like the offer to have a well known, independent gunsmith with a good reputation test that scope's tracking has been (and will continue to be) ignored.

Originally Posted by goalie

Irony: sticky has been banned from, well, everywhere but here, also.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any effect on how a scope tracks though......

To be fair I am only banned on ARF com.

Was that for threatening to hunt down and kill bump stock users?

Nope.

Unspecified personal attacks.

I was good at making the monkey dance over there and one of the site staff hated dancing.

But you will keep on being a Lying Liar becasue it just who you lying liars do.

That and they have no pictures.

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Everyone knows LiL Fish is lying and faked her tall target test.

That's why she won't let anyone else test that MK V.

And what have I lied about, you lying you alcoholic piece of [bleep]?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My hopes were that my MK5 3.6-18x would track,repeat and hold zero. It simply did not,because it can not and I was "asking" very little of it,aboard a World Class platform and 25rds of 22LR was wayyyyy too much for it to "handle". Hint.

So, when are you sending it off for Independent testing?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

I'd actually prefer the mk 5 3.6-18 work as it should. They don't. Why pay 2k for something that has been shown time after time to fail?

I spent $2500 on an illuminated Mark 6 3-18x when they supposedly fixed the turrets/tracking. I love the scope for the size and weight. Its been back to Leupold three times. Once, it took three months to be repaired. Their excuse was there were going to actually shoot it, and there was snow on their range. I was unimpressed with the warranty/customer service on that expensive paperweight. The last trip back it seems to work now and I did use it to kill a couple animals at 700+. However, taking that same rifle to a mile, tracking error was large enough I couldn't connect. I put a PMII off my Accuracy International on the rifle and hits happened.

And what would be my motivation for lying about this? Hmmm.

What would your motivation be for making people believe it isn't true? Hmmm.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And what would be my motivation for lying about this? Hmmm.

What would your motivation be for making people believe it isn't true? Hmmm.

The same motivation that drives you to follow me around the Campfire and whine.

Originally Posted by Dropped_on_Pointy_Head

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And what would be my motivation for lying about this? Hmmm.

What would your motivation be for making people believe it isn't true? Hmmm.

The same motivation that drives you to follow me around the Campfire and whine.

Originally Posted by Dropped_on_Pointy_Head

So zero. Got it.

I suppose the subject Leupold as tested could be returned to Leupold warranty center for diagnosis.

This one tracks and holds zero.

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This one took them four tries:

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Weird how the guns with problems could just have either of these scopes put on them, and the problems went away.

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Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My hopes were that my MK5 3.6-18x would track,repeat and hold zero. It simply did not,because it can not and I was "asking" very little of it,aboard a World Class platform and 25rds of 22LR was wayyyyy too much for it to "handle". Hint.

So, when are you sending it off for Independent testing?

“world class platform” ≠ world class shooter. HINT

Of all the mass of alleged rifles with high BC, BS, OAL, VLC, VD, etc. that he throws together in the hacksaw hackjob shop, a 22 LR is the best he could come up with to test a scope, and actually think he is a world class bull$hitter enough to make people think his pea shooter killed a scope?

Oh Riar Rarry. Got to come up with some new material for 2024. Xi is counting on it.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I suppose the subject Leupold as tested could be returned to Leupold warranty center for diagnosis.

The LiL Fish Posse sure don't want anyone else to test that scope.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish thinnking about anyone with a good rifle testing his MK V

I wouldn't send a $2000 optic to Burns or any friend of burns. You can't trust anybody Burns vouches for, based on his past business dealings and reputation.

Originally Posted by drop_point

I wouldn't send a $2000 optic to Burns or any friend of burns. You can't trust anybody Burns vouches for, based on his past business dealings and reputation.

I'm pretty sure the gunsmith in question has a good reputation and excellent equipment to test a scope's tracking.

From what I have read here, it would go right to said gunsmith, so? 🤷

I went 5-20x HD FFP MQ LitBitch on my AI/AT,mainly because I have a herd and they track,repeat and reliably hold zero. Hint.

My AI/AT-X is awaiting me and I'll do same there,while tossing 40MOA in 'Horn rings. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Does anyone on this site “send the scope for independent verification” vs send back for warranty work?

If yes, who does your “independent verification?”

Or is this just another retarded thing to say that no one actually does?

Originally Posted by David_Walter

Does anyone on this site “send the scope for independent verification” vs send back for warranty work?

If yes, who does your “independent verification?”

Or is this just another retarded thing to say that no one actually does?

Who said it? There’s your answer.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I wouldn't send a $2000 optic to Burns or any friend of burns. You can't trust anybody Burns vouches for, based on his past business dealings and reputation.

I'm pretty sure the gunsmith in question has a good reputation and excellent equipment to test a scope's tracking.

From what I have read here, it would go right to said gunsmith, so? 🤷

I’ve heard no mention of a specific gunsmith, but Burns’ reputation would taint whoever it is.

Question is why? Why not send it back to the maker so that it can be repaired?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Bump for the people who didn't see it, and probably missed the action jig (I'm envious of that sucker) as well.

Originally Posted by drop_point

I’ve heard no mention of a specific gunsmith, but Burns’ reputation would taint whoever it is.

Now you have. And it wasn't Burns 😉

Originally Posted by drop_point

Question is why? Why not send it back to the maker so that it can be repaired?

Because Stick posts a lot of staged pictures and not a lot of him shooting, and, considering his body of work and apparent agenda, it would be interesting to see what a highly regarded gunsmith gets when that scope is tested in a precision jig, and compare the results to the "OMFG IT DOESN'T WORK AT ALL" drama queen stuff posted here.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I’ve heard no mention of a specific gunsmith, but Burns’ reputation would taint whoever it is.

Now you have. And it wasn't Burns 😉

Originally Posted by drop_point

Question is why? Why not send it back to the maker so that it can be repaired?

Because Stick posts a lot of staged pictures and not a lot of him shooting, and, considering his body of work and apparent agenda, it would be interesting to see what a highly regarded gunsmith gets when that scope is tested in a precision jig, and compare the results to the "OMFG IT DOESN'T WORK AT ALL" drama queen stuff posted here.

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I’ve heard no mention of a specific gunsmith, but Burns’ reputation would taint whoever it is.

Now you have. And it wasn't Burns 😉

Originally Posted by drop_point

Question is why? Why not send it back to the maker so that it can be repaired?

Because Stick posts a lot of staged pictures and not a lot of him shooting, and, considering his body of work and apparent agenda, it would be interesting to see what a highly regarded gunsmith gets when that scope is tested in a precision jig, and compare the results to the "OMFG IT DOESN'T WORK AT ALL" drama queen stuff posted here.

Al seem to know this same gunsmith and Al seems very level-headed and reputable..

What's going on here?

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Originally Posted by Big Stick

I went 5-20x HD FFP MQ LitBitch on my AI/AT,mainly because I have a herd and they track,repeat and reliably hold zero. Hint.

My AI/AT-X is awaiting me and I'll do same there,while tossing 40MOA in 'Horn rings. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Nice wares Mr Stick! Thank you for posting.

Originally Posted by Darryle

What's going on here?

[Linked Image from texashuntingforum.com]

🧐🤔🥴🤕

Originally Posted by ldholton

Al seem to know this same gunsmith and Al seems very level-headed and reputable..

🤷

Lots of angst amongst the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

We all know what would happen when that MK V got properly mounted on a good rifle and it would not be 3 MOA groups.

We all know she faked the test but denial is a not just a river in Egypt.

Originally Posted by drop_point

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

So, just to clarify, regardless of widespread reputation and work history, the gunsmith in question is "tainted" because a member here you don't like knows of him???

Seems legit. 🙄

Watching the pushback to someone testing the exact same scope, but in a repeatable manner, with precision equipment, is hilarious.

More evidence from group A. The fat, drunk, red-faced liar will call anybody that questions a sample from the company he has a financial interest in, a liar. That is why nothing good happens on this board.

Originally Posted by drop_point

More evidence from group A. The fat, drunk, red-faced liar will call anybody that questions a sample from the company he has a financial interest in, a liar. That is why nothing good happens on this board.

Gee, one would think that you'd be excited for stick to prove he isn't lying then.....

Watching this train wreck is hilarious.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

So, just to clarify, regardless of widespread reputation and work history, the gunsmith in question is "tainted" because a member here you don't like knows of him???

Seems legit. 🙄

Watching the pushback to someone testing the exact same scope, but in a repeatable manner, with precision equipment, is hilarious.

I haven't heard anybody name said gunsmith, so how would I know his reputation? We all know Burns is a liar and we know how shady his business history is--therefore if it is Burns' idea or recommendation, it is automatically suspect. Do you make it a habit of sending money to strangers?

I don't care who tests the scope, but I wouldn't send my $2000 optic to anybody but the person that would repair it.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

So, just to clarify, regardless of widespread reputation and work history, the gunsmith in question is "tainted" because a member here you don't like knows of him???

Seems legit. 🙄

Watching the pushback to someone testing the exact same scope, but in a repeatable manner, with precision equipment, is hilarious.

I haven't heard anybody name said gunsmith, so how would I know his reputation? We all know Burns is a liar and we know how shady his business history is--therefore if it is Burns' idea or recommendation, it is automatically suspect. Do you make it a habit of sending money to strangers?

I don't care who tests the scope, but I wouldn't send my $2000 optic to anybody but the person that would repair it.

It's almost like you're trying to not see that post 12 up from yours. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

More evidence from group A. The fat, drunk, red-faced liar will call anybody that questions a sample from the company he has a financial interest in, a liar. That is why nothing good happens on this board.

Gee, one would think that you'd be excited for stick to prove he isn't lying then.....

Watching this train wreck is hilarious.

I don't give two [bleep] about Stick or if he's telling the truth or not. In fact, I rather don't care for his online persona.

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Bump for the people who didn't see it, and probably missed the action jig (I'm envious of that sucker) as well.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

So, just to clarify, regardless of widespread reputation and work history, the gunsmith in question is "tainted" because a member here you don't like knows of him???

Seems legit. 🙄

Watching the pushback to someone testing the exact same scope, but in a repeatable manner, with precision equipment, is hilarious.

I haven't heard anybody name said gunsmith, so how would I know his reputation? We all know Burns is a liar and we know how shady his business history is--therefore if it is Burns' idea or recommendation, it is automatically suspect. Do you make it a habit of sending money to strangers?

I don't care who tests the scope, but I wouldn't send my $2000 optic to anybody but the person that would repair it.

It's almost like you're trying to not see that post 12 up from yours. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Heck, name, address, phone number, it's all in that image.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

So, just to clarify, regardless of widespread reputation and work history, the gunsmith in question is "tainted" because a member here you don't like knows of him???

Seems legit. 🙄

Watching the pushback to someone testing the exact same scope, but in a repeatable manner, with precision equipment, is hilarious.

I haven't heard anybody name said gunsmith, so how would I know his reputation? We all know Burns is a liar and we know how shady his business history is--therefore if it is Burns' idea or recommendation, it is automatically suspect. Do you make it a habit of sending money to strangers?

I don't care who tests the scope, but I wouldn't send my $2000 optic to anybody but the person that would repair it.

It's almost like you're trying to not see that post 12 up from yours. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Charley Robertson high score gunsmithing

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Guess you missed the post where that sad sack called me a liar because my Mark 6 took Leupold four tries to make it work.

And then there was the linked thread...two additional Leupold Mark 5s.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Heck, name, address, phone number, it's all in that image.

And that image doesn't work on my browser. I get an error if I try to click on it. Why can this gunsmith not be named?

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I didn't say it was Burns. But any acquaintance or recommendation of Burns is tainted.

So, just to clarify, regardless of widespread reputation and work history, the gunsmith in question is "tainted" because a member here you don't like knows of him???

Seems legit. 🙄

Watching the pushback to someone testing the exact same scope, but in a repeatable manner, with precision equipment, is hilarious.

I haven't heard anybody name said gunsmith, so how would I know his reputation? We all know Burns is a liar and we know how shady his business history is--therefore if it is Burns' idea or recommendation, it is automatically suspect. Do you make it a habit of sending money to strangers?

I don't care who tests the scope, but I wouldn't send my $2000 optic to anybody but the person that would repair it.

It's almost like you're trying to not see that post 12 up from yours. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Charley Robertson high score gunsmithing

Finally!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Heck, name, address, phone number, it's all in that image.

It to funny how some just can't understand how the world works.

The name and address has been posted many many times but Dropped_on_Pointy _Head struggles like a retard trying to zero scope.

Originally Posted by Dpopped_on_Pointy_Head at the range

A Big Stick vs. John Burns dick measuring Leupold thread is certainly not going to disappoint when it comes to entertainment value....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Twelve up from mine I see a quoted image that doesn't display. Why can't somebody name said gunsmith?

Heck, name, address, phone number, it's all in that image.

It to funny how some just can't understand how the world works.

The name and address has been posted many many times but Dropped_on_Pointy _Head struggles like a retard trying to zero scope.

Originally Posted by Dpopped_on_Pointy_Head at the range

Except the image didn't display on my browser. Don't you have to start drinking? Its what? After ten in your time zone?

I’ve got dozens of these. Hard to do without a scope that you can zero and track.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Guess you missed the post where that sad sack called me a liar because my Mark 6 took Leupold four tries to make it work.

And then there was the linked thread...two additional Leupold Mark 5s.

For someone who runs around the Campfire calling others a liar you sure are a whiney little puzzy about being called on your lying.

Originally Posted by irfubar

A Big Stick vs. John Burns dick measuring Leupold thread is certainly not going to disappoint when it comes to entertainment value....

Better than the "Real Housewives" chitt my wife is watching.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Guess you missed the post where that sad sack called me a liar because my Mark 6 took Leupold four tries to make it work.

And then there was the linked thread...two additional Leupold Mark 5s.

For someone who runs around the Campfire calling others a liar you sure are a whiney little puzzy about being called on your lying.

Funny, I haven’t told a lie. But that’s all that comes out of your dicksuckers.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by irfubar

A Big Stick vs. John Burns dick measuring Leupold thread is certainly not going to disappoint when it comes to entertainment value....

Better than the "Real Housewives" chitt my wife is watching.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by drop_point

Except the image didn't display on my browser. Don't you have to start drinking? Its what? After ten in your time zone?

If you can't figure out how to use the Internet and see pictures, I'm not inclined to take how many "times" it took you to get a scope working properly all that seriously.

(I'm freaking kidding, calm down 😁)

I haven't used a Leupold for a few years now, and don't really GAS, I just want to see if sticky was incompetent, lying, or nailed it with his scope testing.

😉

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Except the image didn't display on my browser. Don't you have to start drinking? Its what? After ten in your time zone?

If you can't figure out how to use the Internet and see pictures, I'm not inclined to take how many "times" it took you to get a scope working properly all that seriously.

(I'm freaking kidding, calm down 😁)

I haven't used a Leupold for a few years now, and don't really GAS, I just want to see if sticky was incompetent, lying, or nailed it with his scope testing.

😉

I have good intel that indicates Stick is a poser....

Originally Posted by irfubar

A Big Stick vs. John Burns dick measuring Leupold thread is certainly not going to disappoint when it comes to entertainment value....

which kind of leads me to wonder. why would Stick just flat lie about it? now if it's a human or mechanical error that's one thing but just a flat lie??? what would he have to gain by that.

be the same way for John. since greybull precision is no more what would he have to gain? a few $$ on the Scopes that he sells on a gun with a package? not personally do not know. but I sure know they both get really worked up about this..

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Except the image didn't display on my browser. Don't you have to start drinking? Its what? After ten in your time zone?

If you can't figure out how to use the Internet and see pictures, I'm not inclined to take how many "times" it took you to get a scope working properly all that seriously.

(I'm freaking kidding, calm down 😁)

I haven't used a Leupold for a few years now, and don't really GAS, I just want to see if sticky was incompetent, lying, or nailed it with his scope testing.

😉

Yeah, computer is a work computer. Stuff is blocked.

What amazes me is how the red-faced blowhard rejects any claim a Leupold product is faulty. It really pisses in his Wheaties.

Originally Posted by irfubar

I have good intel that indicates Stick is a poser....

You don't really need insider info to look at the body of his work and go, gee, there's a whole lot of staged pictures with lots of stuff, but no actual long range precision shooting pics. And his "flavor of the day" is always perfect......until it isn't because he's found a new flavor.

Everyone I know that shoots a lot of long range has a few nice rifle, maybe a few few, and several pieces of good glass. Not "hundreds" of $300 scopes.

But, hey, whatever makes ya happy. For stick, it's obviously having the most stuff, not excelling at using it.

Hopefully the hearse has a trailer hitch......

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by irfubar

A Big Stick vs. John Burns dick measuring Leupold thread is certainly not going to disappoint when it comes to entertainment value....

which kind of leads me to wonder. why would Stick just flat lie about it? now if it's a human or mechanical error that's one thing but just a flat lie??? what would he have to gain by that.

be the same way for John. since greybull precision is no more what would he have to gain? a few $$ on the Scopes that he sells on a gun with a package? not personally do not know. but I sure know they both get really worked up about this..

I have a hard time believing somebody would spend $2,000 to make a photo to give credence to a made up story. On the flip side, one does obviously have a financial tie to Leupold so much he bragged about going to their factory. He takes it personal when somebody talks about a broken Leupold.

I absolutely believe there are Leupold scopes failing to track, from both personal experience and the experience of others who I do trust (not Big Stick or John Burns).

Meanwhile, I have shown proof of owning multiple Mark 6 scopes and proof that I am no slouch shooting long range. Pulling off a $2500 Mark 6 and replacing it with an S&B fixed all the problems I had.

@goalie,

I missed Rick’s post about sending his scope out

Thanks for the info

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by irfubar

I have good intel that indicates Stick is a poser....

You don't really need insider info to look at the body of his work and go, gee, there's a whole lot of staged pictures with lots of stuff, but no actual long range precision shooting pics. And his "flavor of the day" is always perfect......until it isn't because he's found a new flavor.

Everyone I know that shoots a lot of long range has a few nice rifle, maybe a few few, and several pieces of good glass. Not "hundreds" of $300 scopes.

But, hey, whatever makes ya happy. For stick, it's obviously having the most stuff, not excelling at using it.

Hopefully the hearse has a trailer hitch......

His shack is stuffed to the ceiling with rifles , scopes and Ingram knives.... a hoarders paradise... hahahhahahahaha

Someone is FULLY engaged in "living" vicariously and I influence their every second,in countless ways. Hint.

Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by drop_point

What amazes me is how the red-faced blowhard rejects any claim a Leupold product is faulty. It really pisses in his Wheaties.

So, hear me out. I get what you're saying, I really do, but, IMO, a while lotta this site has such a hardon for Burns that it clouds everything.

This site has numerous people who also act like literally every Leupold scope sucks, doesn't track, and doesn't hold zero.

Acting like Leupold scopes are perfect and acting like they all universally suck are both ridiculous positions to argue. A lot of Leupold scopes don't track repeatedly. Especially "budget" ones. But, at the same time, people win serious long range shooting competitions with them, and kill game at long range with them. So SOME of their scopes obviously work.

Which brings us to this: an opportunity to have a well regarded, impartial gunsmith, one known for checking high end scope tracking with precision gear for shooters who win national competitions, check the exact scope Stick did so we can all compare the results.

Seems like a win-win to me.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What amazes me is how the red-faced blowhard rejects any claim a Leupold product is faulty. It really pisses in his Wheaties.

So, hear me out. I get what you're saying, I really do, but, IMO, a while lotta this site has such a hardon for Burns that it clouds everything.

This site has numerous people who also act like literally every Leupold scope sucks, doesn't track, and doesn't hold zero.

Acting like Leupold scopes are perfect and acting like they all universally suck are both ridiculous positions to argue. A lot of Leupold scopes don't track repeatedly. Especially "budget" ones. But, at the same time, people win serious long range shooting competitions with them, and kill game at long range with the. So SOME of their scopes obviously work.

Which brings us to this: an opportunity to have a well regarded, impartial gunsmith, one known for checking high end scope tracking with precision gear for shooters who win national competitions, check the exact scope Stick did so we can all compare the results.

Seems like a win-win to me.

That’s pretty much exactly what I said earlier. Group A. And Group B are both wrong.

Like I said, I have two Mark 6s and one has been solid from day 1.

I would bet pocket money Stick influences various locals and sells them "wares" many fall for his hype.... snakeoil

Originally Posted by drop_point

I have a hard time believing somebody would spend $2,000 to make a photo to give credence to a made up story. On the flip side, one does obviously have a financial tie to Leupold so much he bragged about going to their factory. He takes it personal when somebody talks about a broken Leupold.

You lie like an honest man breaths.

Post up me saying I have ever been to Leupolds factory?

Lying Liars just Love to Lie.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Someone is FULLY engaged in "living" vicariously and I influence their every second,in countless ways. Hint.

Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

I'll admit without your authentic frontier gibberish scope review, my son probably wouldn't have had such an easy time dialing in another 2-12 Helos this morning, but that's about it.

You still need to get some cardio in and lose a few chins, then maybe you'll be more comfortable posting pics with you in them from this century.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon me having more $400 scopes than you do. I haven't shot an animal in 15 years, but I can show pictures that PROVE I order lots of scopes and that takes so much skill. Suck it Window Lickers!!! Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What amazes me is how the red-faced blowhard rejects any claim a Leupold product is faulty. It really pisses in his Wheaties.

So, hear me out. I get what you're saying, I really do, but, IMO, a while lotta this site has such a hardon for Burns that it clouds everything.

This site has numerous people who also act like literally every Leupold scope sucks, doesn't track, and doesn't hold zero.

Acting like Leupold scopes are perfect and acting like they all universally suck are both ridiculous positions to argue. A lot of Leupold scopes don't track repeatedly. Especially "budget" ones. But, at the same time, people win serious long range shooting competitions with them, and kill game at long range with the. So SOME of their scopes obviously work.

Which brings us to this: an opportunity to have a well regarded, impartial gunsmith, one known for checking high end scope tracking with precision gear for shooters who win national competitions, check the exact scope Stick did so we can all compare the results.

Seems like a win-win to me.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish

Originally Posted by irfubar

I would bet pocket money Stick influences various locals and sells them "wares" many fall for his hype.... snakeoil

you know that may be. but any of the optic stuff that I'm unfamiliar with the stick is raved about and I have actually tried has worked very well.
and the popularity of the super sniper, certain models athlon and the Arkens. are raved about and praised all over the place. I don't think stick has that much influence for one reason somebody said he's ban on all the websites except here..

now I'm no stick Fanboy we've had our rounds also but it is what it is

Originally Posted by slm9s

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon me having more $400 scopes than you do. I haven't shot an animal in 15 years, but I can show pictures that PROVE I order lots of scopes and that takes so much skill. Suck it Window Lickers!!! Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Edit: and it kills me to say it, but the Helos 2-12 is an amazing $400 scope when you know your son's gonna drop that fugger sooner than later. 😁

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by irfubar

I would bet pocket money Stick influences various locals and sells them "wares" many fall for his hype.... snakeoil

you know that may be. but any of the optic stuff that I'm unfamiliar with the stick is raved about and I have actually tried has worked very well.
and the popularity of the super sniper, certain models athlon and the Arkens. are raved about and praised all over the place. I don't think stick has that much influence for one reason somebody said he's ban on all the websites except here..

now I'm no stick Fanboy we've had our rounds also but it is what it is

My experience with Sticks flavor of the week has been hit and miss, with more misses than hits.... he often brags of pards cutting checks...
No way he can have that much junk stored in his shack...
Around 2005 I started into long range shooting and building rigs, would go shooting with buddies and they would witness what these builds did at long range and make me offers on the whole package, rifle , scope , load data, drop charts, even dies and components... offers i couldn't refuse.
Then I would build another and another, finally turned into work and I told everyone no more.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by irfubar

I would bet pocket money Stick influences various locals and sells them "wares" many fall for his hype.... snakeoil

you know that may be. but any of the optic stuff that I'm unfamiliar with the stick is raved about and I have actually tried has worked very well.
and the popularity of the super sniper, certain models athlon and the Arkens. are raved about and praised all over the place. I don't think stick has that much influence for one reason somebody said he's ban on all the websites except here..

now I'm no stick Fanboy we've had our rounds also but it is what it is

My experience with Sticks flavor of the week has been hit and miss, with more misses than hits.... he often brags of pards cutting checks...
No way he can have that much junk stored in his shack...
Around 2005 I started into long range shooting and building rigs, would go shooting with buddies and they would witness what these builds did at long range and make me offers on the whole package, rifle , scope , load data, drop charts, even dies and components... offers i couldn't refuse.
Then I would build another and another, finally turned into work and I told everyone no more.

That sounds like Brother Burns’ line of work

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by irfubar

I would bet pocket money Stick influences various locals and sells them "wares" many fall for his hype.... snakeoil

you know that may be. but any of the optic stuff that I'm unfamiliar with the stick is raved about and I have actually tried has worked very well.
and the popularity of the super sniper, certain models athlon and the Arkens. are raved about and praised all over the place. I don't think stick has that much influence for one reason somebody said he's ban on all the websites except here..

now I'm no stick Fanboy we've had our rounds also but it is what it is

My experience with Sticks flavor of the week has been hit and miss, with more misses than hits.... he often brags of pards cutting checks...
No way he can have that much junk stored in his shack...
Around 2005 I started into long range shooting and building rigs, would go shooting with buddies and they would witness what these builds did at long range and make me offers on the whole package, rifle , scope , load data, drop charts, even dies and components... offers i couldn't refuse.
Then I would build another and another, finally turned into work and I told everyone no more.

That sounds like Brother Burns’ line of work

Brother Always,
If I didn't know you as an upstanding member of the campfire, I would tend to think you are mocking me ?

It was crazy, I wasn't trying to make money, I was just having fun building and testing and learning.... the sales fueled future builds.
The demand became nuts, people started contacting me wanting to buy rifles, people beyond my circle of friends. I put a stop to that in a hurry!

Originally Posted by ldholton

you know that may be. but any of the optic stuff that I'm unfamiliar with the stick is raved about and I have actually tried has worked very well.
and the popularity of the super sniper, certain models athlon and the Arkens. are raved about and praised all over the place. I don't think stick has that much influence for one reason somebody said he's ban on all the websites except here..

now I'm no stick Fanboy we've had our rounds also but it is what it is

Yeah, considering he was calling me an idiot on here for using a 10x SS on my State Arms 50bmg while he was still saying 6x Leupold scopes were the best thing ever for killing, well, I am a little less impressed than you.

😉

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Every Leupold part that requires maching is made in the USA. Leupold owns the most CNCs west of the Mississippi.

The volume of lens Leupold requires to meet the demand for these high quality scopes is well beyond any USA supplier.

If one places any value on supporting USA manufacturing then Leupold has a step up on the competition.

My mistake, he doesn’t claim to have visited, just claims to know how many machines Leupold has, and everybody else. He also claims to know exactly which parts are machined in-house. But he doesn’t have any sort of relationship, financial or otherwise.

Maybe he can post a gif or meme 😂

Gotta hand it to the key players in this thread, you [bleep] losers are not afraid to repeat yourself.
Kinda seems like a waste of time but the world is definitely better having you retards on here fighting over nothing rather than out in the world actually doing stuff and engaging with people who have ambitions. LMFAO.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Good to hear from you Al...all the best.

Ps...my SuperTrickler has been released from customs and a local fellow here was silly enough to come around and have a play with my loading gear...it is going to cost him several grand to upgrade (he has the bug).

I haven't worked with one yet. A close friend uses one for his 6PPC and is very happy with it. After some initial debugging, he can now quickly load charges in .1 gr. increments into vials at home and just tune accordingly at a tournament.

Interested in your results as you go along.

Good shootin'

-Al

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by ldholton

you know that may be. but any of the optic stuff that I'm unfamiliar with the stick is raved about and I have actually tried has worked very well.
and the popularity of the super sniper, certain models athlon and the Arkens. are raved about and praised all over the place. I don't think stick has that much influence for one reason somebody said he's ban on all the websites except here..

now I'm no stick Fanboy we've had our rounds also but it is what it is

Yeah, considering he was calling me an idiot on here for using a 10x SS on my State Arms 50bmg while he was still saying 6x Leupold scopes were the best thing ever for killing, well, I am a little less impressed than you.

😉

if nothing I will guarantee you in person Stick might be a bit stubborn

Originally Posted by drop_point

My mistake, he doesn’t claim to have visited, just claims to know how many machines Leupold has, and everybody else. He also claims to know exactly which parts are machined in-house. But he doesn’t have any sort of relationship, financial or otherwise.

Maybe he can post a gif or meme 😂

Hypothetically, if stick was getting compensated from Athlon, that wouldn't make his assessment of the Helos 2-12 wrong......

Just an observation

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

My mistake, he doesn’t claim to have visited, just claims to know how many machines Leupold has, and everybody else. He also claims to know exactly which parts are machined in-house. But he doesn’t have any sort of relationship, financial or otherwise.

Maybe he can post a gif or meme 😂

Hypothetically, if stick was getting compensated from Athlon, that wouldn't make his assessment of the Helos 2-12 wrong......

Just an observation

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

He has. I do.

🤣

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Every Leupold part that requires maching is made in the USA. Leupold owns the most CNCs west of the Mississippi.

The volume of lens Leupold requires to meet the demand for these high quality scopes is well beyond any USA supplier.

If one places any value on supporting USA manufacturing then Leupold has a step up on the competition.

My mistake, he doesn’t claim to have visited, just claims to know how many machines Leupold has, and everybody else. He also claims to know exactly which parts are machined in-house. But he doesn’t have any sort of relationship, financial or otherwise.

Maybe he can post a gif or meme 😂

As I said you are a proven Lying Liar. Your work ethic is on par with your lying nature. Posting while your supposed to be working.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Every Leupold part that requires maching is made in the USA. Leupold owns the most CNCs west of the Mississippi.

The volume of lens Leupold requires to meet the demand for these high quality scopes is well beyond any USA supplier.

If one places any value on supporting USA manufacturing then Leupold has a step up on the competition.

My mistake, he doesn’t claim to have visited, just claims to know how many machines Leupold has, and everybody else. He also claims to know exactly which parts are machined in-house. But he doesn’t have any sort of relationship, financial or otherwise.

Maybe he can post a gif or meme 😂

As I said you are a proven Lying Liar. Your work ethic is on par with your lying nature. Posting while your supposed to be working.

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Being mistaken is different than lying.

Who said I was supposed to be working? Why do you keep lying?

Do you have a relationship with Leupold other than being an end-user?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

He has. I do.

My point exactly. That's one of the many, many reasons why Burns isn't trusted, liked, or respected on here.

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching this train wreck is hilarious.

Or in your case, being the train wreck.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

He has. I do.

My point exactly. That's one of the many, many reasons why Burns isn't trusted, liked, or respected on here.

LOL.

I am extremely trusted, liked, and respected on the Campfire.

Just not by the Lying Liars Club or the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

Oh yeah, the Montana Couch Cochies Tester Supporters are a bit butthurt.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

He has. I do.

My point exactly. That's one of the many, many reasons why Burns isn't trusted, liked, or respected on here.

LOL.

I am extremely trusted, liked, and respected on the Campfire.

Just not by the Lying Liars Club or the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

Oh yeah, the Montana Couch Cochies Tester Supporters are a bit butthurt.

So not only are you hated, you're delusional. Still won't answer the question, huh?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Is that tard crying because you ate all the cake? You dumb fat b itch

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

I am extremely trusted,

Trusted to have high BP, diabetes, and weigh a metric ton lol

Do you actually work for Wyoming Arms? Or did they finally figure out you're just a used car salesman of the gun world?

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

He has. I do.

My point exactly. That's one of the many, many reasons why Burns isn't trusted, liked, or respected on here.

LOL.

I am extremely trusted, liked, and respected on the Campfire.

Just not by the Lying Liars Club or the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

Oh yeah, the Montana Couch Cochies Tester Supporters are a bit butthurt.

looks to me like the evening shots have began

The drinking begins at sunup in that household.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

Nope, but if he personally attacked everybody that had a problem with one, you'd begin to question his credibility.

He has. I do.

My point exactly. That's one of the many, many reasons why Burns isn't trusted, liked, or respected on here.

LOL.

I am extremely trusted, liked, and respected on the Campfire.

Just not by the Lying Liars Club or the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

Oh yeah, the Montana Couch Cochies Tester Supporters are a bit butthurt.

LMFAO. I'd over eat and drink as well if my existence brought me to this point. Tell us your momma loved you too John.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Only thing you control is a fork and spoon JR.
How many dozen Krispy Kreme doughnuts do you have to order to get free shipping to Alaska?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

LOL, That's gay as it gets.

Originally Posted by drop_point

My point exactly. That's one of the many, many reasons why Burns isn't trusted, liked, or respected on here.

If you woke up in his lardass, lying, no tax paying, no family that will claim you skin, you'd be a bottom feeding, drunken zero too. He knows he's a loser too, which is why he has to repeatedly tell anyone who will listen otherwise. I'm in agreement with you as well drop point.....anyone he associates with or recommends goes immediately to the bottom of the heap.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD makin the monkey dance and BUMP

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

Oh boy. Can’t say I’ve had any mental images of dudes doing that. 😬

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

LOL, That's gay as it gets.

I didn't say it was a pleasant image.... just another sicko... the world is full of sicko's these days

Originally Posted by Calvin

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

Oh boy. Can’t say I’ve had any mental images of dudes doing that. 😬

One of sticks ballwashers makes an appearance....

Originally Posted by Calvin

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

Oh boy. Can’t say I’ve had any mental images of dudes doing that. 😬

Oh no, Brother Fubar

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Calvin

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

....Oh boy. Can’t say I’ve had any mental images of dudes doing that. 😬

Oh no, Brother Fubar

Yous guys keep this schit up and I am going to join all the good guys and leave..... ha

Letard Riar Rarry told the outcome of the test right when he ordered the scope. But some still waited and thought it would be an unbiased test. LOL.

Then he backpedals and said he was sure hoping it would work.

B S.
the big shtick.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Calvin

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

Oh boy. Can’t say I’ve had any mental images of dudes doing that. 😬

One of sticks ballwashers makes an appearance....

Calvins been here a long time. Never seen him do any ballwashing.

One does assumes he washes his own balls when needed but it's in private.

Bump for ballwashing in private.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Calvin

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic objective critique,controlling your "life" and every thought. Fortunately for you,Whining is free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I have this mental image of Stick diddling himself, thinkin everyone is paying attention to me...... hahahhahahah

Oh boy. Can’t say I’ve had any mental images of dudes doing that. 😬

One of sticks ballwashers makes an appearance....

Calvins been here a long time. Never seen him do any ballwashing.

One does assumes he washes his own balls when needed but it's in private.

Bump for ballwashing in private.

Calvin and Stick are buddies.... Calvin has even told me they talk about me.... no b.s.

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching this train wreck is hilarious.

Or in your case, being the train wreck.

That I may be, but it sure beats being a short, fat fugg that uses authentic frontier gibberish to avoid answering simple questions.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Calvin and Stick are buddies.... Calvin has even told me they talk about me.... no b.s.

I have long known Calvin and LiL Fish know each other. It's never been a secret here.

I just have never seen Calvin post anything that was "ballwashing".

His only post in this thread was meant to be funny and was funny.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by irfubar

Calvin and Stick are buddies.... Calvin has even told me they talk about me.... no b.s.

I have long known Calvin and LiL Fish know each other. It's never been a secret here.

I just have never seen Calvin post anything that was "ballwashing".

His only post in this thread was meant to be funny and was funny.

It's not funny if it's at my expense.... so there... now if it's at Stick's or your expense it's funny....

Ok John and stick are the same person right?

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Ok John and stick are the same person right?

Only in Brother Burns’ dreams

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Ok John and stick are the same person right?

^^^KSMITH the fake SEAL has himself a sockpuppet.^^^

I just came up with a FANTASTIC idea!

Al Nyhus can sell his benchrest and buy Fug Stick's backpack/BR!!

Al will never again shoot a group bigger than .2 MOA and thereby RULE the BR World, and Fug Stick will make some good coin selling a cheap pack for the price of a premium rest++.

Can you imagine the look of fear in the eyes of the other competitors as they watch Al stroll up and toss that backpack on the bench?

I'm sure with a dedicated BR rifle, groups will ALWAYS be in the zeros with that backpack.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

I wouldn't send a $2000 optic to Burns or any friend of burns. You can't trust anybody Burns vouches for, based on his past business dealings and reputation.

I'm pretty sure the gunsmith in question has a good reputation and excellent equipment to test a scope's tracking.

From what I have read here, it would go right to said gunsmith, so? 🤷

A gunsmith or anybody that tests scopes without firing a shot is incompetent. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. Testing without shooting is fine, but if it passes without a shot fired, your an idiot. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by qwk

A gunsmith or anybody that tests scopes without firing a shot is incompetent. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. Testing without shooting is fine, but if it passes without a shot fired, your an idiot. Plain and simple.

Have you looked at what, and how, he tests the scopes?

He isn't saying it'll hold up to recoil, he is documenting exactly how it tracks. Nothing more, nothing less.

Acting like knowing the scope tracks before popping primers is a bad thing would make one an idiot. Plain and simple. 😉

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

A gunsmith or anybody that tests scopes without firing a shot is incompetent. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. Testing without shooting is fine, but if it passes without a shot fired, your an idiot. Plain and simple.

Have you looked at what, and how, he tests the scopes?

He isn't saying it'll hold up to recoil, he is documenting exactly how it tracks. Nothing more, nothing less.

Acting like knowing the scope tracks before popping primers is a bad thing would make one an idiot. Plain and simple. 😉

I agree. Obviously if a scope won't pass the static tracking test, there's no need to go launch 100 rounds down range I wouldn't think.

Honest question for Rick because he’s one person on here who has or has had pretty big corporate sponsorships, do you have any ties with Leupold? ie free scopes, gear etc..?

Burns has a very obvious relationship with Leupold and a vested interest in their reputation. Apparently has some hands on involvement with Maven also?

To be fair, Stick could answer whether he gets any consideration from manufacturers or retailers for putting his opinion out there on certain brands/models.

It would be nice to know who’s opinions are impartial
and who’s may or may not be swayed by financial interests.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

A gunsmith or anybody that tests scopes without firing a shot is incompetent. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. Testing without shooting is fine, but if it passes without a shot fired, your an idiot. Plain and simple.

Have you looked at what, and how, he tests the scopes?

He isn't saying it'll hold up to recoil, he is documenting exactly how it tracks. Nothing more, nothing less.

Acting like knowing the scope tracks before popping primers is a bad thing would make one an idiot. Plain and simple. 😉

Someone once posted a statement that went something like... The less you shoot, the better stuff works. It fits this thread to a T.

Don’t tell me you are afraid of driving because tires, and gas cost to much? The do nothing crowd is pathetic.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Honest question for Rick because he’s one person on here who has or has had pretty big corporate sponsorships, do you have any ties with Leupold? ie free scopes, gear etc..?

Burns has a very obvious relationship with Leupold and a vested interest in their reputation. Apparently has some hands on involvement with Maven also?

To be fair, Stick could answer whether he gets any consideration from manufacturers or retailers for putting his opinion out there on certain brands/models.

It would be nice to know who’s opinions are impartial
and who’s may or may not be swayed by financial interests.

As noted I have always been clear that I sell Leupold scopes with many of the packages. I wouldn't sell Leupold if the scopes didn't work well.

We laser engrave the Maven custom turrets and I am person friends with the owners and crew. They have a good thing going and the optics offer a lot of quality for the price point due to the direct to consumer model.

I don't speak for Rick C but I don't think he has ever been sponsored by Leupold.

It's obvious that LiL Fish is schillin and he got caught lying with a fake test, not to uplift a brand but to try and destroy a brand.

As noted many times the LDS whiners just want to bash Leupold while the Leupold users don't give 2 [bleep] what's on somebody elses rifle.

Lots of good scopes these days.

Leupolds are awesome at 5 yard groups .I prefer ten shot groups too.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Honest question for Rick because he’s one person on here who has or has had pretty big corporate sponsorships, do you have any ties with Leupold? ie free scopes, gear etc..?

Burns has a very obvious relationship with Leupold and a vested interest in their reputation. Apparently has some hands on involvement with Maven also?

To be fair, Stick could answer whether he gets any consideration from manufacturers or retailers for putting his opinion out there on certain brands/models.

It would be nice to know who’s opinions are impartial
and who’s may or may not be swayed by financial interests.

As noted I have always been clear that I sell Leupold scopes with many of the packages. I wouldn't sell Leupold if the scopes didn't work well.

We laser engrave the Maven custom turrets and I am person friends with the owners and crew. They have a good thing going and the optics offer a lot of quality for the price point due to the direct to consumer model.

I don't speak for Rick C but I don't think he has ever been sponsored by Leupold.

It's obvious that LiL Fish is schillin and he got caught lying with a fake test, not to uplift a brand but to try and destroy a brand.

As noted many times the LDS whiners just want to bash Leupold while the Leupold users don't give 2 [bleep] what's on somebody elses rifle.

Lots of good scopes these days.

maybe I'm misunderstanding the term schilling but please explain to me how he is doing that? what I would consider shilling for a scope would be actually getting paid trying to sell them like many of these YouTubers that test optics and then give you a promotional code to save some money which I'm sure in turn gets them paid a bit also. the best I can tell stick is not in any way there but let me know

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

As noted I have always been clear that I sell Leupold scopes with many of the packages. I wouldn't sell Leupold if the scopes didn't work well.

your opinion about leupold is completely biased. You make a buck off them, no s hit you act like they are the best scope manufacturer in the world......

Fat slob

Do you get a better deal the more you shill for them?

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

As noted I have always been clear that I sell Leupold scopes with many of the packages. I wouldn't sell Leupold if the scopes didn't work well.

your opinion about leupold is completely biased. You make a buck off them, no s hit you act like they are the best scope manufacturer in the world......

Fat slob

Dear Fat Slob,

I don't think you have fully thought through your statement.

John.

my legitimate question to John Burns still stands...

Originally Posted by David_Walter

Does anyone on this site “send the scope for independent verification” vs send back for warranty work?

If yes, who does your “independent verification?”

Or is this just another retarded thing to say that no one actually does?

This isn’t the first time I’ve offered to test someone’s scope. I had a member send me a SWA 6X a few years ago, I tested on my gunsmith’s equipment and sent it back to him with no problems

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by David_Walter

Does anyone on this site “send the scope for independent verification” vs send back for warranty work?

If yes, who does your “independent verification?”

Or is this just another retarded thing to say that no one actually does?

This isn’t the first time I’ve offered to test someone’s scope. I had a member send me a SWA 6X a few years ago, I tested on my gunsmith’s equipment and sent it back to him with no problems

How many brands/models tested have you been privy to?
Anything that was surprising?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Guess you missed the interaction between bubble guts and myself, and my utter disappointment at his not succumbing in his lonely miserable existence...maybe his close family ties saved his diseased malodorous arse.
Who knows...maybe he started a new business concern and is feeling excited about his prospects this time.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Is that tard crying because you ate all the cake? You dumb fat b itch

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

I am extremely trusted,

Trusted to have high BP, diabetes, and weigh a metric ton lol

Do you actually work for Wyoming Arms? Or did they finally figure out you're just a used car salesman of the gun world?

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

In all honesty Rick, do you think bubble guts offers anything apart from pictures shilling his wares?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Honest question for Rick because he’s one person on here who has or has had pretty big corporate sponsorships, do you have any ties with Leupold? ie free scopes, gear etc..?

Burns has a very obvious relationship with Leupold and a vested interest in their reputation. Apparently has some hands on involvement with Maven also?

To be fair, Stick could answer whether he gets any consideration from manufacturers or retailers for putting his opinion out there on certain brands/models.

It would be nice to know who’s opinions are impartial
and who’s may or may not be swayed by financial interests.

Absolutely not. I buy all my scopes with greenbacks

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Guess you missed the interaction between bubble guts and myself, and my utter disappointment at his not succumbing in his lonely miserable existence...maybe his close family ties saved his diseased malodorous arse.
Who knows...maybe he started a new business concern and is feeling excited about his prospects this time.

How's life in Slave Land? Your masters in Canberra being nice? Are you loving your chains?

Love and kisses.
John

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by David_Walter

Does anyone on this site “send the scope for independent verification” vs send back for warranty work?

If yes, who does your “independent verification?”

Or is this just another retarded thing to say that no one actually does?

This isn’t the first time I’ve offered to test someone’s scope. I had a member send me a SWA 6X a few years ago, I tested on my gunsmith’s equipment and sent it back to him with no problems

How many brands/models tested have you been privy to?
Anything that was surprising?

All brands fail. Some are worthless from the get go.

Manufacturer’s scopes within the same line vary. Some are perfect, some aren’t

That’s why I offered to have the scope impartially tested. The one I posted the evaluation sheet for is perfect, but I think everyone would like to see how this specimen shakes out

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

In all honesty Rick, do you think bubble guts offers anything apart from pictures shilling his wares?

Absolutely. He has helped me and is a trail-blazer in long range hunting.

If you can’t acknowledge that fact, you haven’t paid attention

And his quick wit is funny as fuqk, even though it mostly goes over the heads of the random dolt members

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by drop_point

What I do have a problem with is that fat sack of crap calling everybody with a broken Leupold a liar.

We must be reading different threads. All I see is someone calling BS on Sticky's testing results on one very specific scope.

Guess you missed the interaction between bubble guts and myself, and my utter disappointment at his not succumbing in his lonely miserable existence...maybe his close family ties saved his diseased malodorous arse.
Who knows...maybe he started a new business concern and is feeling excited about his prospects this time.

How's life in Slave Land? Your masters in Canberra being nice? Are you loving your chains?

Love and kisses.
John

For someone who is ruled over by a biden you are a fairly uppity fat slob.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Absolutely. He has helped me and is a trail-blazer in long range hunting.

If you can’t acknowledge that fact, you haven’t paid attention

And his quick wit is funny as fuqk, even though it mostly goes over the heads of the random dolt members

Wipe your lips Rick.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For someone who is ruled over by a biden you are a fairly uppity fat slob.

LOL.

Post your pictures SLAVE.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Absolutely. He has helped me and is a trail-blazer in long range hunting.

If you can’t acknowledge that fact, you haven’t paid attention

And his quick wit is funny as fuqk, even though it mostly goes over the heads of the random dolt members

Wipe your lips Rick.

Must be brain-scrambling to be filled with so much hate from being gaslighted that you can’t give credit where credit is due.

Step back a bit and regroup

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

In all honesty Rick, do you think bubble guts offers anything apart from pictures shilling his wares?

Absolutely. He has helped me and is a trail-blazer in long range hunting.

If you can’t acknowledge that fact, you haven’t paid attention

And his quick wit is funny as fuqk, even though it mostly goes over the heads of the random dolt members

..

lmao

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Must be brain-scrambling to be filled with so much hate from being gaslighted that you can’t give credit where credit is due.

Step back a bit and regroup

Rick, you misread the fat turd. I am assuming it is intentional.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For someone who is ruled over by a biden you are a fairly uppity fat slob.

LOL.

Post your pictures SLAVE.

Just this once you pathetic fat slob, I shall post.

LINK

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

For someone who is ruled over by a biden you are a fairly uppity fat slob.

LOL.

.

Holy s hit. That was 10yrs and 300lbs ago. Lol fat f ucking slob

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Is that tard crying because you ate all the cake? You dumb fat b itch

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

I am extremely trusted,

Trusted to have high BP, diabetes, and weigh a metric ton lol

Do you actually work for Wyoming Arms? Or did they finally figure out you're just a used car salesman of the gun world?

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

Thanks, you dumb c ock riding b itch.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

In all honesty Rick, do you think bubble guts offers anything apart from pictures shilling his wares?

Absolutely. He has helped me and is a trail-blazer in long range hunting.

If you can’t acknowledge that fact, you haven’t paid attention

And his quick wit is funny as fuqk, even though it mostly goes over the heads of the random dolt members

To give credit, you say some pretty funny stuff, too. But only cause it's so absurd.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Is that tard crying because you ate all the cake? You dumb fat b itch

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

I am extremely trusted,

Trusted to have high BP, diabetes, and weigh a metric ton lol

Do you actually work for Wyoming Arms? Or did they finally figure out you're just a used car salesman of the gun world?

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

Thanks, you dumb c ock riding b itch.

Great information and sincere contributions to a scope thread

Signed,

alwaysabitch

Brother Jack

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

In all honesty Rick, do you think bubble guts offers anything apart from pictures shilling his wares?

Absolutely. He has helped me and is a trail-blazer in long range hunting.

If you can’t acknowledge that fact, you haven’t paid attention

And his quick wit is funny as fuqk, even though it mostly goes over the heads of the random dolt members

To give credit, you say some pretty funny stuff, too. But only cause it's so absurd.

I pretty much rule.

🤣

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Is that tard crying because you ate all the cake? You dumb fat b itch

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

I am extremely trusted,

Trusted to have high BP, diabetes, and weigh a metric ton lol

Do you actually work for Wyoming Arms? Or did they finally figure out you're just a used car salesman of the gun world?

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

Thanks, you dumb c ock riding b itch.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Great information and sincere contributions to a scope thread

Signed,

alwaysabitch

The DeadEnders are feeling the pinch here on the Campfire.

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Watching the thread sliding in an attempt to make the offer to test the Leupold scope for free fade away into the pages of yesterday is rather amusing.

It's almost like certain people really, REALLY don't want their little (height, not weight, he's got 4 chins) hero's scope testing methods and results verified.

The best part is the midget himself just ignoring the offer, desperately hoping it all goes away.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching the thread sliding in an attempt to make the offer to test the Leupold scope for free fade away into the pages of yesterday is rather amusing.

It's almost like certain people really, REALLY don't want their little (height, not weight, he's got 4 chins) hero's scope testing methods and results verified.

The best part is the midget himself just ignoring the offer, desperately hoping it all goes away.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Weird huh? But not so strange when you break down the agenda

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Fan Boi Club going through the stages of Grief

Is that tard crying because you ate all the cake? You dumb fat b itch

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

I am extremely trusted,

Trusted to have high BP, diabetes, and weigh a metric ton lol

Do you actually work for Wyoming Arms? Or did they finally figure out you're just a used car salesman of the gun world?

You add nothing to the campfire. Same as alwaysacundt

Congrats!

Thanks, you dumb c ock riding b itch.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Great information and sincere contributions to a scope thread

Signed,

alwaysabitch

The DeadEnders are feeling the pinch here on the Campfire.

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I had to get caught up on about 7 pages. Been a busy thread.

I was shooting 50 yard crossers from an 80 foot tower most of the day

Dropped-on-his-pointy-head’s posts have been amazing

🤪🤪🤪

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching the thread sliding in an attempt to make the offer to test the Leupold scope for free fade away into the pages of yesterday is rather amusing.

It's almost like certain people really, REALLY don't want their little (height, not weight, he's got 4 chins) hero's scope testing methods and results verified.

The best part is the midget himself just ignoring the offer, desperately hoping it all goes away.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by LiL Fish used to gaslighting the Fan Bois

Let the hate flow, it must be unbearable to the sufferers to get so wound up here. I think it's hilarious, keep it up.

Burns is playing you saps like a rented fiddle. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching the thread sliding in an attempt to make the offer to test the Leupold scope for free fade away into the pages of yesterday is rather amusing.

It's almost like certain people really, REALLY don't want their little (height, not weight, he's got 4 chins) hero's scope testing methods and results verified.

The best part is the midget himself just ignoring the offer, desperately hoping it all goes away.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

I wonder if I sweeten the deal to include a crisp, new $100 bill in the scope box when shipping it back if it tests poorly would get a bite?

Al could post some parts pics and Pointy-head could post some pics of rifles pointing out into canyons

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Let the hate flow, it must be unbearable to the sufferers to get so wound up here. I think it's hilarious, keep it up.

Burns is playing you saps like a rented fiddle. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching the thread sliding in an attempt to make the offer to test the Leupold scope for free fade away into the pages of yesterday is rather amusing.

It's almost like certain people really, REALLY don't want their little (height, not weight, he's got 4 chins) hero's scope testing methods and results verified.

The best part is the midget himself just ignoring the offer, desperately hoping it all goes away.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Goalie...if you are basing your scope purchases upon anything Stick or Burns posts you are doing yourself a disservice.

And that pretty much goes for myself and everyone else. Make your own mind up.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I wonder if I sweeten the deal to include a crisp, new $100 bill in the scope box when shipping it back if it tests poorly would get a bite?

Al could post some parts pics and Pointy-head could post some pics of rifles pointing out into canyons

You are doing Al a grievous wrong. That man's word is good.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I wonder if I sweeten the deal to include a crisp, new $100 bill in the scope box when shipping it back if it tests poorly would get a bite?

Al could post some parts pics and Pointy-head could post some pics of rifles pointing out into canyons

You are doing Al a grievous wrong. That man's word is good.

All he’s done is post pics of scope parts.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I wonder if I sweeten the deal to include a crisp, new $100 bill in the scope box when shipping it back if it tests poorly would get a bite?

Al could post some parts pics and Pointy-head could post some pics of rifles pointing out into canyons

You are doing Al a grievous wrong. That man's word is good.

All he’s done is post pics of scope parts.

To be fair he did lie about one failed VX-5 that became 2 failed VX-5s.

It could be old timers syndrome.

I wish him well.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

All he’s done is post pics of scope parts.

Which is germane to the discussion.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Goalie...if you are basing your scope purchases upon anything Stick or Burns posts you are doing yourself a disservice.

And that pretty much goes for myself and everyone else. Make your own mind up.

I try lots of stuff. Some works, some doesn't. Goes for lots of things. Guns. Optics. Tools. Golf clubs. Everything really.

😉

Originally Posted by goalie

I try lots of stuff. Some works, some doesn't. Goes for lots of things. Guns. Optics. Tools. Golf clubs. Everything really.

😉

Don't we all. Gets expensive though.

But the fun is in the doing.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

I certainly hope he is, for his health's sake. Not good to carry an extra 300lbs of lard.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

I certainly hope he is, for his health's sake. Not good to carry an extra 300lbs of lard.

Hang it up dude.

You’re waaay out of your league

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by goalie

Watching the thread sliding in an attempt to make the offer to test the Leupold scope for free fade away into the pages of yesterday is rather amusing.

It's almost like certain people really, REALLY don't want their little (height, not weight, he's got 4 chins) hero's scope testing methods and results verified.

The best part is the midget himself just ignoring the offer, desperately hoping it all goes away.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Goalie...if you are basing your scope purchases upon anything Stick or Burns posts you are doing yourself a disservice.

And that pretty much goes for myself and everyone else. Make your own mind up.

LOL.

The guy just bought a scope that neither LiL Fish nor I recommended.

And another member took his recommendation and bought the same scope.

It's almost like most guys look at results and buy what they want. The SHEEP from Down Under do as they are told.

SLAVEs to Canberra.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

I certainly hope he is, for his health's sake. Not good to carry an extra 300lbs of lard.

Hang it up dude.

You’re waaay out of your league

I know your head is shoved firmly up the gizards azz. But even you'd have to admit, he is a fat slob. Right?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

The guy just bought a scope that neither LiL Fish nor I recommended.

And another member took his recommendation and bought the same scope.

It's almost like most guys look at results and buy what they want. The SHEEP from Down Under do as they are told.

SLAVEs to Canberra.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

I certainly hope he is, for his health's sake. Not good to carry an extra 300lbs of lard.

Hang it up dude.

You’re waaay out of your league

I know your head is shoved firmly up the gizards azz. But even you'd have to admit, he is a fat slob. Right?

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

The guy just bought a scope that neither LiL Fish nor I recommended.

And another member took his recommendation and bought the same scope.

It's killing me too. After shooting the 6cm with that scope, and seeing the freaking deal going on, I was really, REALLY hoping that Athlon was like Arken or PA with different tiers built in other places (LOW in Japan or Philippines). The only thing I didn't like was the weight, and that isn't a deal breaker at all for the rifle it's going on.

FWIW, the glass on Sticky's favorite Helos 2-12 sucks ass compared to the Ares UHD glass. And I like my (son's 😁) 2-12's......

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

. I'll bet he's laughing his ass off.

I certainly hope he is, for his health's sake. Not good to carry an extra 300lbs of lard.

Hang it up dude.

You’re waaay out of your league

I know your head is shoved firmly up the gizards azz. But even you'd have to admit, he is a fat slob. Right?

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

It's called observation. I'd have to be ray Charles to not see how f ucking fat you are.

You're an egomaniac that just can't come to grips with how obese you are.

Well bubble guts, it is obvious you are on your last legs...how long did they give you?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Well bubble guts, it is obvious you are on your last legs...how long did they give you?

It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

An assumption, maybe. Burns might have an inventory of Leupold scopes to fit to the Wyo Arms rifles that are ordered. I'll suggest Mr Burns to perform static track test on a somewhat statistically relevant number of samples, say 5 each of the same model. Report the results here.

I'm curious if Mr Burns track tests a customers scope if one is ordered with a Wyo Arms rifle. That would be a predelivery quality check. As a firearm manufacturer, there must be some sort of QC process for each firearm where results are documented.

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Well bubble guts, it is obvious you are on your last legs...how long did they give you?

No, but you have been given a time frame. Sorry about that.

Best of luck with it.

So .,

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

The guy just bought a scope that neither LiL Fish nor I recommended.

And another member took his recommendation and bought the same scope.

It's killing me too. After shooting the 6cm with that scope, and seeing the freaking deal going on, I was really, REALLY hoping that Athlon was like Arken or PA with different tiers built in other places (LOW in Japan or Philippines). The only thing I didn't like was the weight, and that isn't a deal breaker at all for the rifle it's going on.

FWIW, the glass on Sticky's favorite Helos 2-12 sucks ass compared to the Ares UHD glass. And I like my (son's 😁) 2-12's......

I've probably culled 30 whitetail does the past two years with the Helos/7mm08 combo. It gets you well past legal shooting light, easily. The illumination is superb as well, FYI.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

No, but you have been given a time frame. Sorry about that.

Best of luck with it.

VLD hunting bullets, CDS dialing, small frame AR systems, compact light weight suppressors, who knows what's next. It's exciting.

May your chains rest lightly in the Land Down Under.

SLAVE.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

Hell yeah. I would love to watch him shoot perfect .2's off a pack with his Athlon then watch it all fall apart with the he MK5.

But, it's not a hypothetical. There's a very real opportunity to simply see if that exact scope tracks the way it did in Sticky's testing while mounted in a precision jig and tested by a well respected, impartial gunsmith.

I assume the Leupold warranty center is impartial.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

The “test” was so flawed that he’s afraid to do so.

For “0” dollars, I will have it evaluated

But no takers should tell you something

The narcotic infested gnome is the only one here I have on ignore, and have done so for years. Enough of his crap gets quoted you can't help but see some of it though. I'd be willing to bet 3/4 of what he says and posts is a fabricated, false, regurgitated lie.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

I've probably culled 30 whitetail does the past two years with the Helos/7mm08 combo. It gets you well past legal shooting light, easily. The illumination is superb as well, FYI.

Yeah, the Helos doesn't suck for killing where I hunt either, but it's waaaay outpaced by a lot of scopes at long range.

There's no reason, IMO, to settle when it comes to resolution, clarity and color.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JGRaider

I've probably culled 30 whitetail does the past two years with the Helos/7mm08 combo. It gets you well past legal shooting light, easily. The illumination is superb as well, FYI.

Yeah, the Helos doesn't suck for killing where I hunt either, but it's waaaay outpaced by a lot of scopes at long range.

There's no reason, IMO, to settle when it comes to resolution, clarity and color.

Shoulda bought a Leupold!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

The “test” was so flawed that he’s afraid to do so.

For “0” dollars, I will have it evaluated

But no takers should tell you something

I haven't followed this whole mess, but I don't understand why a guy who hates Leupold so much would run out and buy one in the first place. I guess thick necked dwarf's think differently than normal people.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I assume the Leupold warranty center is impartial.

Well, considering Sticky's own disdain and derision of said company's ability to build any scope that track reliably and repeatedly, why not have someone who is trusted by some of the best long range shooters, someone with awesome, precise, repeatable equipment, test it?????

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

An assumption, maybe. Burns might have an inventory of Leupold scopes to fit to the Wyo Arms rifles that are ordered. I'll suggest Mr Burns to perform static track test on a somewhat statistically relevant number of samples, say 5 each of the same model. Report the results here.

I'm curious if Mr Burns track tests a customers scope if one is ordered with a Wyo Arms rifle. That would be a predelivery quality check. As a firearm manufacturer, there must be some sort of QC process for each firearm where results are documented.

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

We static test every scope before the package is range tested. Leupold, Maven, a few Vortex.

Every single one. Not going to waste bullets on a scope that won't track without recoil.

That's why our systems always work so well for the customer. It's not rocket science. It's doing the work.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

The “test” was so flawed that he’s afraid to do so.

For “0” dollars, I will have it evaluated

But no takers should tell you something

I haven't followed this whole mess, but I don't understand why a guy who hates Leupold so much would run out and buy one in the first place. I guess thick necked dwarf's think differently than normal people.

To be fair you are pretty much a retard who can't pour pizz out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heel.

You might win in a who is the less dumb retard competition with LiL Fish I don't think it's a given.

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Originally Posted by goalie

There's a very real opportunity to simply see if that exact scope tracks the way it did in Sticky's testing while mounted in a precision jig and tested by a well respected, impartial gunsmith.

Are you really this slow? Impartial? Respected? By whom? The “i’m scared to shoot it crowd”? It might be time for another covid booster. Lol

Originally Posted by qwk

Are you really this slow? Impartial? Respected? By whom? The “i’m scared to shoot it crowd”? It might be time for another covid booster. Lol

Thanks for showing everyone how much you pay attention. I'd call you a retard, but it would be an insult to retards.

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

There's a very real opportunity to simply see if that exact scope tracks the way it did in Sticky's testing while mounted in a precision jig and tested by a well respected, impartial gunsmith.

Are you really this slow? Impartial? Respected? By whom? The “i’m scared to shoot it crowd”? It might be time for another covid booster. Lol

Covid Boosters in an optics thread?

The LiL Fish Fan Boi Club is really scraping the bottom.

Let's get this MK V on the test fixture.

It'll be fun.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We static test every scope before the package is range tested. Leupold, Maven, a few Vortex.

Every single one. Not going to waste bullets on a scope that won't track without recoil.

That’s what happens when you sell shyt wares. The companies you mentioned need to be QC testing their own shyt, not the buyer.

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

Only a total coward wouldn't.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I assume the Leupold warranty center is impartial.

Well, considering Sticky's own disdain and derision of said company's ability to build any scope that track reliably and repeatedly, why not have someone who is trusted by some of the best long range shooters, someone with awesome, precise, repeatable equipment, test it?????

Quote

awesome, precise, repeatable equipment

While the photo of that fixture looks nice, it's hearsay to qualify it as awesome, precise, repeatable.

Also, as claimed in a post above, the plumb line used with the fixture is on a buildings wall 35 yards out the window. At best a layman process, not a technique found in a metrology lab.

Could be a great father/son project for you two to perform a TTT test with that new Athlon you mentioned in that thread. You could do it indoors where you two did the sight in.

Originally Posted by goalie

Thanks for showing everyone how much you pay attention. I'd call you a retard, but it would be an insult to retards.

I pay attention enough to know that respected long range shooters don’t go bankrupt every few years, and re-emerge with a new business name to fleece dumb sheep.

You on the other hand can’t take a hint.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

Only a total coward wouldn't.

Or a fake SEAL claiming STOLEN VALOR.

Originally Posted by qwk

.

You on the other hand can’t take a hint.

At least I can figure out what someone highlighting some of my words means.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

GFY

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

Only a total coward wouldn't.

Or a fake SEAL claiming STOLEN VALOR.

Whop, whop right John, you heart attack in slow motion.

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

Thanks for showing everyone how much you pay attention. I'd call you a retard, but it would be an insult to retards.

I pay attention enough to know that respected long range shooters don’t go bankrupt every few years, and re-emerge with a new business name to fleece dumb sheep.

You on the other hand can’t take a hint.

Bankruptcy is public record.

You can't back up your Lying Liar claim simply because you are a Lying Liar.

Lying is what you do just like breathing for an honest man.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

.

You on the other hand can’t take a hint.

At least I can figure out what someone highlighting some of my words means.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

GFY

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

Thanks for showing everyone how much you pay attention. I'd call you a retard, but it would be an insult to retards.

I pay attention enough to know that respected long range shooters don’t go bankrupt every few years, and re-emerge with a new business name to fleece dumb sheep.

You on the other hand can’t take a hint.

Bankruptcy is public record.

You can't back up your Lying Liar claim simply because you are a Lying Liar.

Lying is what you do just like breathing for an honest man.

Greybull Precision ring a bell?

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

[quote=Mr_TooDogs]It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

Only a total coward wouldn't.

Or a fake SEAL claiming STOLEN VALOR.

Whop, whop right John, you heart attack in slow motion.

LOL.

You felt that sting a while ago, KSMITH the FAKE SEAL STOLEN VALOR sockpuppet.

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Member that time you threatened to kill people on AFR.com? Then you lies and said it was the nyquil talking. Me too. Lol

What was that about lying liars that you said again? Lol

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Bankruptcy is public record.

You can't back up your Lying Liar claim simply because you are a Lying Liar.

Lying is what you do just like breathing for an honest man.

Greybull Precision ring a bell?

The company I sold for a tidy profit?

Originally Posted by qwk

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Really? That's what you're gonna try and go with?

🤣😂🤣😂🖕🖕🖕

GFY (and thanks for showing how ignorant you are)

Originally Posted by qwk

Member that time you threatened to kill people on AFR.com? Then you lies and said it was the nyquil talking. Me too. Lol

What was that about lying liars that you said again? Lol

LOL.

Your keyboard is slurring.

Who saw that coming?

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Me too.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Really? That's what you're gonna try and go with?

🤣😂🤣😂🖕🖕🖕

GFY (and thanks for showing how ignorant you are)

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Libs defend other libs. You flying the Ukie flag too?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by qwk

Member that time you threatened to kill people on AFR.com? Then you lies and said it was the nyquil talking. Me too. Lol

What was that about lying liars that you said again? Lol

LOL.

Your keyboard is slurring.

Who saw that coming?

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Me too.

Deflect, it’s what you do best. Lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Bankruptcy is public record.

You can't back up your Lying Liar claim simply because you are a Lying Liar.

Lying is what you do just like breathing for an honest man.

Greybull Precision ring a bell?

The company I sold for a tidy profit?

LOL. They pay in candy bars?

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

LOL. They pay in candy bars?

Nyquil

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Really? That's what you're gonna try and go with?

🤣😂🤣😂🖕🖕🖕

GFY (and thanks for showing how ignorant you are)

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Libs defend other libs. You flying the Ukie flag too?

You really might want to do a little digging here on the fire before you start calling me, of all people, a covtard.

Or, keep showing your ass.

GFY 🖕🖕😂🤣😂😂🖕🖕🖕

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

Your keyboard is slurring.

Who saw that coming?

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Me too.

Deflect, it’s what you do best. Lol

I do many things well. Stomping Rando Drunk Internet Posters is one of those skillz.

Have you enjoyed your time in the Mudhole?

What would you say my boot tastes like?

On a scale of 1-10 how bad does it hurt to have your azz walked dry?

Thanks for playing.

What a pathetic dips hit.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

Your keyboard is slurring.

Who saw that coming?

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Me too.

Deflect, it’s what you do best. Lol

I do many things well. Stomping Rando Drunk Internet Posters is one of those skillz.

Have you enjoyed your time in the Mudhole?

What would you say my boot tastes like?

On a scale of 1-10 how bad does it hurt to have your azz walked dry?

Thanks for playing.

If you think you stomped anything, you are delusional.

Accomplished shooters can actually sell shyt. How many WA ar’s do you sell a year? How about the loud suppressor? Flying off the shelves? Lol

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Really? That's what you're gonna try and go with?

🤣😂🤣😂🖕🖕🖕

GFY (and thanks for showing how ignorant you are)

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Libs defend other libs. You flying the Ukie flag too?

You really might want to do a little digging here on the fire before you start calling me, of all people, a covtard.

Or, keep showing your ass.

GFY 🖕🖕😂🤣😂😂🖕🖕🖕

I had you confused with another Minnesota retard. My bad. To me they’re all the same. Just like Californians.

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

LOL. They pay in candy bars?

Nyquil

I'm laughing my ass off.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

What a pathetic dips hit.

It's not clear who you are drunk yipping at but it's "dip shit".

You may thank me later when you sober up.

Originally Posted by qwk

I had you confused with another Minnesota retard. My bad. To me they’re all the same. Just like Californians.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/6491307/1

Sold Greybull for a tidy profit? Not according to the above thread. Going to court, and getting ousted isn’t selling for a profit in my world.

Originally Posted by qwk

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/6491307/1

Sold Greybull for a tidy profit? Not according to the above thread. Going to court, and getting ousted isn’t selling for a profit in my world.

My bank account has a different opinion.

Cha-Ching.

Greybull Precision didn't last long after I was not there. Bye Bye.

Wyoming Arms seems to be doing right well for more than a decade. A. DECADE.

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So why would you not own WA outright if you are rolling in it? Serious question.

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Really? That's what you're gonna try and go with?

🤣😂🤣😂🖕🖕🖕

GFY (and thanks for showing how ignorant you are)

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Libs defend other libs. You flying the Ukie flag too?

Don't know who you are fella...but I do know Goalie is anti vax.

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We static test every scope before the package is range tested. Leupold, Maven, a few Vortex.

Every single one. Not going to waste bullets on a scope that won't track without recoil.

That’s what happens when you sell shyt wares. The companies you mentioned need to be QC testing their own shyt, not the buyer.

We have a winner!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by qwk

You are a Minnesota covtard. Why is it that all the Burns sackriders live in lib shytholes? So predictable.

Really? That's what you're gonna try and go with?

🤣😂🤣😂🖕🖕🖕

GFY (and thanks for showing how ignorant you are)

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Libs defend other libs. You flying the Ukie flag too?

Don't know who you are fella...but I do know Goalie is anti vax.

I got vaccinated 2 and have 13 boosters and i will out live the key players on this thread. Lots of skin on here looks like it's at capacity.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by qwk

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/6491307/1

Sold Greybull for a tidy profit? Not according to the above thread. Going to court, and getting ousted isn’t selling for a profit in my world.

My bank account has a different opinion.

Cha-Ching.

Greybull Precision didn't last long after I was not there. Bye Bye.

Wyoming Arms seems to be doing right well for more than a decade. A. DECADE.

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If you could wiggle and squirm enough to bend over and look directly at your azzhole you would know what everyone else sees when you're in view.

Its official John's finally saved enough money to survive until the end of the year.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

………….That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

I would ask for my money back. A scope at that price point should have the level of QC that would prevent it from leaving the building in that condition.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I assume the Leupold warranty center is impartial.

Well, considering Sticky's own disdain and derision of said company's ability to build any scope that track reliably and repeatedly, why not have someone who is trusted by some of the best long range shooters, someone with awesome, precise, repeatable equipment, test it?????

Have you had any first hand experiences or dealings with said gunsmith or his equipment, or just parroting what you read/saw on this thread?
Just saying, if you’re promoting this test you should have first hand knowledge that the smith and his equipment are capable.
Not saying he is or isn’t, and would assume he is if Rick uses him, but without any personal experience I’d personally not proffer an opinion.

This appears to be an above average session...
What's the record on bites per cast?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

What a pathetic dips hit.

It's not clear who you are drunk yipping at but it's "dip shit".

You may thank me later when you sober up.

Well unlike you, the red faced nyquil and bourbon fiend, I did not consume any intoxicants last night.

I know it's difficult for an addict like yourself to comprehend that some people do not let a substance run their life, but it's true...it's possible.

What I suggest you do is put down the booze and junk food and lose about 200lbs. Then maybe you could start making new memories instead of living in the past. Stop being a fat slob.

The Brokedick Hurt Feeler Reports are being submitted in a frenzy,as Professional Victims extoll their very WELL founded Insecurities and are powerless in the refrain to not think about me incessantly. Plum flattering,that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

An assumption, maybe. Burns might have an inventory of Leupold scopes to fit to the Wyo Arms rifles that are ordered. I'll suggest Mr Burns to perform static track test on a somewhat statistically relevant number of samples, say 5 each of the same model. Report the results here.

I'm curious if Mr Burns track tests a customers scope if one is ordered with a Wyo Arms rifle. That would be a predelivery quality check. As a firearm manufacturer, there must be some sort of QC process for each firearm where results are documented.

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

We static test every scope before the package is range tested. Leupold, Maven, a few Vortex.

Every single one. Not going to waste bullets on a scope that won't track without recoil.

That's why our systems always work so well for the customer. It's not rocket science. It's doing the work.

What percentage of three 3 listed don’t pass the static test?

Good .22lr’s deserve good glass, and Leupold was never in the running. Should be banging steel at 300 in less than an hour if the truck ever warms up.

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

An assumption, maybe. Burns might have an inventory of Leupold scopes to fit to the Wyo Arms rifles that are ordered. I'll suggest Mr Burns to perform static track test on a somewhat statistically relevant number of samples, say 5 each of the same model. Report the results here.

I'm curious if Mr Burns track tests a customers scope if one is ordered with a Wyo Arms rifle. That would be a predelivery quality check. As a firearm manufacturer, there must be some sort of QC process for each firearm where results are documented.

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

We static test every scope before the package is range tested. Leupold, Maven, a few Vortex.

Every single one. Not going to waste bullets on a scope that won't track without recoil.

That's why our systems always work so well for the customer. It's not rocket science. It's doing the work.

What percentage of three 3 listed don’t pass the static test?

I’d be more interested in an honest disclosure of failure rate (if any) after field use, especially with John’s Wyoarms/Leupolds that are intended to be dialed regularly.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

………….That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

I would ask for my money back. A scope at that price point should have the level of QC that would prevent it from leaving the building in that condition.

My Leupold I had so much trouble with, I asked for a refund. I asked for a new scope. After trip three, they said they would replace the scope if they found it to be losing zero or tracking inconsistently after actually shooting with it on a rifle. They broke their promise, but did replace the erector system. For my trouble, it came back with ring marks that weren't there when I sent it. In their defense, it does mostly track now.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Have you had any first hand experiences or dealings with said gunsmith or his equipment, or just parroting what you read/saw on this thread?
Just saying, if you’re promoting this test you should have first hand knowledge that the smith and his equipment are capable.
Not saying he is or isn’t, and would assume he is if Rick uses him, but without any personal experience I’d personally not proffer an opinion.

here on 24hc

on Long Range Hunting

at Sniper's hide

As well as asking a few acquaintances where one didn't know of him, and two did and heard "good things"

The offer wasn't for the scope to go to an unknown hack, and the obvious attempts to ignore and/or thread slide on the hopes that the offer is forgotten is very telling and amusing.

Lastly, if you want to look at it objectively, the multiple posters here repeating the "if Rick uses him" line like that's a bad thing collectively have less hardware from national long range shooting events.

I'm the end, considering what the initial tester has said and done historically, it seems illogical NOT to do this, especially for free. It wouldn't even void his warranty.

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

For those slow on the uptake (burns and his sidekick). Spotting scopes don't have erector systems.....

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

It's easy for some here to challenge Sticks scope test from a keyboard. Would you do it to his face?

An assumption, maybe. Burns might have an inventory of Leupold scopes to fit to the Wyo Arms rifles that are ordered. I'll suggest Mr Burns to perform static track test on a somewhat statistically relevant number of samples, say 5 each of the same model. Report the results here.

I'm curious if Mr Burns track tests a customers scope if one is ordered with a Wyo Arms rifle. That would be a predelivery quality check. As a firearm manufacturer, there must be some sort of QC process for each firearm where results are documented.

That said, if the subject scope evaluated by Stick were mine, and I found the flaws that this Leupold had, I'd simply send it to Leupold warranty center.

We static test every scope before the package is range tested. Leupold, Maven, a few Vortex.

Every single one. Not going to waste bullets on a scope that won't track without recoil.

That's why our systems always work so well for the customer. It's not rocket science. It's doing the work.

What percentage of three 3 listed don’t pass the static test?

I’d be more interested in an honest disclosure of failure rate (if any) after field use, especially with John’s Wyoarms/Leupolds that are intended to be dialed regularly.

Failure rate in the field of scopes that passed the static test would be quite interesting. Especially if rounds to failure was known.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

To prove what is already known?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-3-5-10x40mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.314762/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-2-5-8x36mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.333050/

Ya they just happen to be evaluating the only scopes that don't work as they should...

The fear of simply confirming results is interesting to see. The "legend" of stick only grows here at the campfire if his results are confirmed accurate using precision tech. Heck, one would think his pards would want him to send the scope to have his results verified.

wonder how many headaches there are this AM from the last 10 pages of this thread

Originally Posted by goalie

The fear of simply confirming results is interesting to see. The "legend" of stick only grows here at the campfire if his results are confirmed accurate using precision tech. Heck, one would think his pards would want him to send the scope to have his results verified.

Due her "means","abilities" and "comprehension",she can't even begin to fhuqking fathom the magnitude,because she's forced to use herself as a barometer. The Insecurities ooze incessantly and are VERY well founded,as she files perpetual Hurt Feeler Reports and vindicates her Professional Victim Status. The only thing she can offer in the first hand,are the sweet satisfactions that are her's,in "living" vicariously. Hint.

Pardon the simplistic fact,that I have 100's of scopes to extrapolate and that not all wares are equal,despite their billing. Hint.

The 18.5# Vudoo,will RELIABLY extract mechanical aptitude. She "gets" to read about such Splendors. Hint.

Her NEED to somehow tie herself to me,is fhuqking HILARIOUS! Reality being,she can't even begin to "do" for herself. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

To prove what is already known?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-3-5-10x40mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.314762/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-2-5-8x36mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.333050/

Ya they just happen to be evaluating the only scopes that don't work as they should...

why not include the link for the arken 2x12 that failed also,

Originally Posted by 300stw

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

To prove what is already known?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-3-5-10x40mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.314762/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-2-5-8x36mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.333050/

Ya they just happen to be evaluating the only scopes that don't work as they should...

why not include the link for the arken 2x12 that failed also,

I don't believe Arken makes a 2x12

Wow! What a thread. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'd be willing to bet that most of the posters in this thread, if they met one another "in real life" and didn't know who each other was on this forum, would probably actually get along with one another and probably even become friends. Maybe that is Pollyanna type thinking and I know it is pure speculation but it's probably a good bet just based on shared interests. Back to the show. Happy New Year everyone.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

For those slow on the uptake (burns and his sidekick). Spotting scopes don't have erector systems.....

A matter of semantics perhaps, but spotters require an "image reversal" system which has also be called an "erector system" assuming one wants an image that is not upside down and reversed. It can consist of either prisms or lenses. In a spotter it would be a static system unlike a rifle scope where it can be housed in an "erector tube assembly" which also includes the reticle and is moved to adjust point of impact.

Originally Posted by 300stw

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

To prove what is already known?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-3-5-10x40mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.314762/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-2-5-8x36mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.333050/

Ya they just happen to be evaluating the only scopes that don't work as they should...

why not include the link for the arken 2x12 that failed also,

Because the discussion is about leuplod. Go look for yourself if you want to look at other evals. I wouldn't own an Arken, Athlon, or leupold.

Jfc

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by 300stw

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

To prove what is already known?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-3-5-10x40mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.314762/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-2-5-8x36mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.333050/

Ya they just happen to be evaluating the only scopes that don't work as they should...

why not include the link for the arken 2x12 that failed also,

I don't believe Arken makes a 2x12

In his desire to play "gotcha" he probably f ucked up Athlon for arken....

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

In his desire to play "gotcha" he probably f ucked up Athlon for arken....

Well, considering the 4-chin having midget claims all the Athlon Helos gen2 2-12's are perfect.....

Talking in absolutes regarding scopes is equally retarded whether you're claiming they all fail or are all perfect.

😉

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hell...you puke a MK4 FFP TMR Spotter for the 3rd time and you "win" a new erector assembly,from The Amazingly Inept CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Would bitching about a spotter you knew was a pile of crap before you bought it, busting not qualify you for "Amazingly inept clueless fuqk" status? Especially the third time!
Bitching is definitely a virtue in the world of heavyweights. John and John Jr need Leupold more than either can admit for different reasons but the same at the exact same time.

Originally Posted by goalie

The fear of simply confirming results is interesting to see. The "legend" of stick only grows here at the campfire if his results are confirmed accurate using precision tech. Heck, one would think his pards would want him to send the scope to have his results verified.

If testing scopes in a fixture really worked, the boys on the slide wouldn’t be doing drop tests. Hint.

No Leupold has passed yet. All have been a disaster. Hint.

I would bet money that the scope In question would fail their test.

Originally Posted by goalie

So you're gonna send it (the scope, not the spotter)to an independent tester for free, as offered, right?

Originally Posted by goalie

The fear of simply confirming results is interesting to see. The "legend" of stick only grows here at the campfire if his results are confirmed accurate using precision tech. Heck, one would think his pards would want him to send the scope to have his results verified.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

To prove what is already known?

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-3-5-10x40mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.314762/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/leupold-vx-3hd-2-5-8x36mm-cds-zl-field-evaluation.333050/

Ya they just happen to be evaluating the only scopes that don't work as they should...

As goalie has stated, it’s retarded to make a general statement about the Reliable functioning of reputable brand of optic or model

This particular scope was owned by a competitive shooting buddy of mine. He had it on a hunting rifle and used it extensively. He had the scope available for sale when another friend needed to scope a hunting rifle for a once in a lifetime hunt. Friend number two bought the scope, had a precision mount performed and evaluation, and it tested perfect. Exact words from the tester were “this is the most perfect scope we’ve ever tested”

Even though that’s true, it would be foolish to generalize that every Mark 5 of the same model functions exactly the same way.

The offer to test the scope at no charge, including shipping both ways, stands, but it seems it won’t be accepted

You probably oughta ask yourself why a generous offer like that would not be accepted.

Originally Posted by qwk

If testing scopes in a fixture really worked, the boys on the slide wouldn’t be doing drop tests. Hint.

No Leupold has passed yet. All have been a disaster. Hint.

I would bet money that the scope In question would fail their test.

You should take every one of your rifles out of the safe and drop them from 3 feet, three times at different points of impact onto a padded surface.

You’d have to be an idiot to do that number one. And if you did that and expected not to see some sort of point of impact shift, you’re even more of an idiot.

You’ve reached maximum idiot status if you think the point of impact shifts are due solely to the scope, and not how the scope is attached to the rifle.

You Whining Brokedick Professional Victims,be SURE to get all your Hurt Feeler Reports filed,before The Kchunt Clock starts anew at midnight. Hint.

Pardon World Class wares that exist and Live Fire,extrapolating mechanical "aptitude",with unerring Precision. Not all wares are equal,nor close. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Have you had any first hand experiences or dealings with said gunsmith or his equipment, or just parroting what you read/saw on this thread?
Just saying, if you’re promoting this test you should have first hand knowledge that the smith and his equipment are capable.
Not saying he is or isn’t, and would assume he is if Rick uses him, but without any personal experience I’d personally not proffer an opinion.

here on 24hc

on Long Range Hunting

at Sniper's hide

As well as asking a few acquaintances where one didn't know of him, and two did and heard "good things"

The offer wasn't for the scope to go to an unknown hack, and the obvious attempts to ignore and/or thread slide on the hopes that the offer is forgotten is very telling and amusing.

Lastly, if you want to look at it objectively, the multiple posters here repeating the "if Rick uses him" line like that's a bad thing collectively have less hardware from national long range shooting events.

I'm the end, considering what the initial tester has said and done historically, it seems illogical NOT to do this, especially for free. It wouldn't even void his warranty.

Missed your personal experience/first hand knowledge of his work? Is he a Leupold dealer? Any affiliation with them etc… not questioning his integrity but things someone should know before automatically coming to the conclusion that he’s impartial.
Not sure what Rick having more “long range hardware” has to do with my question, he should, he’s a long range shooting competitor. Rick pushing for his guy to test the scope makes sense, you parroting it from the back row doesn’t.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by qwk

If testing scopes in a fixture really worked, the boys on the slide wouldn’t be doing drop tests. Hint.

No Leupold has passed yet. All have been a disaster. Hint.

I would bet money that the scope In question would fail their test.

You should take every one of your rifles out of the safe and drop them from 3 feet, three times at different points of impact onto a padded surface.

You’d have to be an idiot to do that number one. And if you did that and expected not to see some sort of point of impact shift, you’re even more of an idiot.

You’ve reached maximum idiot status if you think the point of impact shifts are due solely to the scope, and not how the scope is attached to the rifle.

100% agree, the whole drop test infatuation is completely retarded.

I also agree with your remarks about making general statements about a product based on reports, but at this price point, there’s should be so few leaving the shop with any issues to cause this discussion in the first place.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckedinthehead

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

WELL that about covers it......................

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Rick pushing for his guy to test the scope makes sense, you parroting it from the back row doesn’t.

You must be getting tired pumping those cheerleading pom-poms there yourself.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Rick pushing for his guy to test the scope makes sense, you parroting it from the back row doesn’t.

You must be getting tired pumping those cheerleading pom-poms there yourself.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Post up my cheer leading.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon World Class wares that exist

Buying the most mediocre scopes is super-duper impressive.

Keep on buying glass in bulk.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Post up my cheer leading.

Oh, you're doing a great job all by yourself.

"Stick, stick, he's out man, if he can't break it, no one can!!!"

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by jmp300wsm

WELL that about covers it......................

Ironically, hurt feelings make his opinions not count.

😉

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by qwk

If testing scopes in a fixture really worked, the boys on the slide wouldn’t be doing drop tests. Hint.

No Leupold has passed yet. All have been a disaster. Hint.

I would bet money that the scope In question would fail their test.

You should take every one of your rifles out of the safe and drop them from 3 feet, three times at different points of impact onto a padded surface.

You’d have to be an idiot to do that number one. And if you did that and expected not to see some sort of point of impact shift, you’re even more of an idiot.

You’ve reached maximum idiot status if you think the point of impact shifts are due solely to the scope, and not how the scope is attached to the rifle.

Whats retarded is testing scopes in a mickey mouse fixture, by a fawking snake oil smith. Only a fool would think an 18” drop on a padded mat is abuse. [bleep] wares don’t fare well, but the scopes that actually work do. Surprise.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon World Class wares that exist

Buying the most mediocre scopes is super-duper impressive.

Keep on buying glass in bulk.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

C’mon Man!

They’re World Class and the test was “Live Fire,extrapolating mechanical "aptitude",with unerring Precision.”

Fortunately,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji's are free,so even she can "afford" to "contribute". The number of times she thinks about me a minute,hour,day,week,month and year,GREATLY exceeds the number of rounds she fires. Perhaps someday,she'll even go Outdoors herself?!? Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Post up my cheer leading.

Oh, you're doing a great job all by yourself.

"Stick, stick, he's out man, if he can't break it, no one can!!!"

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Pretty much what I thought.

Originally Posted by qwk

Whats retarded is testing scopes in a mickey mouse fixture, by a fawking snake oil smith. Only a fool would think an 18” drop on a padded mat is abuse. [bleep] wares don’t fare well, but the scopes that actually work do. Surprise.

It’s evident your parents drop tested you and you didn’t “fare well”

😝

In fairness,I "only" have (4) Vudoos and my BEST Reupold rides atop one(Hummer). It is unerring,in tracking,repeats and zero retention. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

What happens when the world renowned 6x by the half assed, half defunct SWFA craps out? Just ask those that it happened to. SWFA says they will replace them "when available", which is next to never. Not only that, they only allocate a certain number of said rattletraps for warranty replacement when they offload the cargo container. Some have been waiting 14 months now. So, they are by definition "throw away scopes". That's why those "that know" bought them in bulk. HINT

Originally Posted by jmp300wsm

Originally Posted by rcumagliaHomoButtPilot

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Wow, you are the best! Please post a photo of your trophy case to share your accomplishments with the 24HCF.

I'll bet it's fabulous! We are lucky to have you here! My hero!

Sure. Thanks for asking

4-Time NSCA Team USA
8-Time NSCA All American Team
2002 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
2006 NSCA World Sporting Clays Championship Team USA Silver
World FITASC Team USA Gold Minnesota Horse and Hunt Club
2005 NSCA National Championship Browning All-Around Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Champion
2005 NSCA National Championship FITASC Champion
2001 NSCA National Championship Runner Up
2006 Pan American FITASC Champion (World Cup)
2007 NSCA National FITASC Champion
2003 NSCA National Championship Krieghoff Cup Runner Up
2005 NSCA US Open 3RD
2005 NSCA US Open FITASC Runner Up
2005 World Sporting Clays Championship FITASC Runner Up
2004 Browning/Briley Runner Up
2002 Midwest FITASC Champion
2003 Midwest FITASC Champion
2007 NSCA National Championship FITASC 3rd
9-Time New Mexico State Champion
3-Time Arizona State Shoot Champion
2-Time Colorado State Shoot Champion

...just to list a few

Multiple Sporting Rifle Match wins including a course record matching score of 58

2012 Sniper's Hide Cup 16th
2013 Sniper's Hide Cup 13th
2013 Steel Safari Runner Up
2014 Steel Safari Champion

WELL that about covers it......................

Yes indeed. I knew the ego that cumaglia has would result in a display of his wares. He's bragged that up here before. Hint.

All said, cumaglias accomplishments from back in the day ARE something to be proud of.

Too bad though that cumaglia doesn't have humility or ability to recognize or acknowledge others skills or accomplishments.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

As goalie has stated, it’s retarded to make a general statement about the Reliable functioning of reputable brand of optic or model

Leupold is not reputable, unless your speaking of producing a s hit product....

Maybe at some point (60s maybe?) Their scopes didn't suck a mean azz....but they do now.

There is ZERO excuse for a 2k dollar scope to "perform" like this....let alone two! Zero. Nada. Zip.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfucking

Too bad though that cumaglia doesn't have humility or ability to recognize or acknowledge others skills or accomplishments.

You are an accomplished moron

See? I can acknowledge greatness 👍🏼

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsshagging

Yes indeed. I knew the ego that cumaglia has would result in a display of his wares. He's bragged that up here before. Hint..

Actually you didn’t and it didn’t go as you planned. Nice backpedal though

Originally Posted by Big Stick

In fairness,I "only" have (4) Vudoos and my BEST Reupold rides atop one(Hummer). It is unerring,in tracking,repeats and zero retention. Hint.

How many matches have you won with those? Did you rest on a backpack for those matches too?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogsfuckingChampion

Too bad though that cumaglia doesn't have humility or ability to recognize or acknowledge others skills or accomplishments.

You are an accomplished moron

See? I can acknowledge greatness 👍🏼

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Yes indeed. I knew the ego that cumaglia has would result in a display of his wares. He's bragged that up here before. Hint..

Actually you didn’t and it didn’t go as you planned. Nice backpedal though

Yes I did, and yes it did. Resurface your decaying pizza parlor parking lot yet?

Staying the course and for more R&D of the ilk,I ordered a NightFarce NX8 2.5-20x 50mm F1 Mil-XT. It will obviously DESTROY the glaring piece of fhuqking schit Reupold MK5 3.6-18x,so I'll be curious to see how it do against the 5-20x HD FFP Mil/Mil LitBitch. Hint.

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Yes I did, and yes it did. Resurface your decaying pizza parlor parking lot yet?

Changing the topic, is an admission of defeat.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by David_Walter

Does anyone on this site “send the scope for independent verification” vs send back for warranty work?

If yes, who does your “independent verification?”

Or is this just another retarded thing to say that no one actually does?

This isn’t the first time I’ve offered to test someone’s scope. I had a member send me a SWA 6X a few years ago, I tested on my gunsmith’s equipment and sent it back to him with no problems

Let's get this testing done.

Has LiL Fish provided a tracking #?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Staying the course and for more R&D of the ilk,I ordered a NightFarce NX8 2.5-20x 50mm F1 Mil-XT. It will obviously DESTROY the glaring piece of fhuqking schit Reupold MK5 3.6-18x,so I'll be curious to see how it do against the 5-20x HD FFP Mil/Mil LitBitch. Hint.

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Why are you being charged states sales tax when Alaska does not have any ?

Willing to think there’s likely some good info here,

But damn if I can tell what’s what.

Can any 3 of you agree on a good solid scope that reliably tracks and won’t break the bank?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Staying the course and for more R&D of the ilk,I ordered a NightFarce NX8 2.5-20x 50mm F1 Mil-XT. It will obviously DESTROY the glaring piece of fhuqking schit Reupold MK5 3.6-18x,so I'll be curious to see how it do against the 5-20x HD FFP Mil/Mil LitBitch. Hint.

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Swfa 5-20 has a waaayyyy better reticle… and depth of field. I rather like the 5-20 on a long range herd animal rifle. 3-9swiffer is still vastly superior to the Nxs version. And I’ve owned a few.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Staying the course and for more R&D of the ilk,I ordered a NightFarce NX8 2.5-20x 50mm F1 Mil-XT. It will obviously DESTROY the glaring piece of fhuqking schit Reupold MK5 3.6-18x,so I'll be curious to see how it do against the 5-20x HD FFP Mil/Mil LitBitch. Hint.

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

The Trijicon must've worked out.
The Nightmare will bust in the box John JR will cry and bitch then call everyone [bleep] and tell everyone he's rich.

Hey Jimmypop, are you related to Cornpop?

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Willing to think there’s likely some good info here,

But damn if I can tell what’s what.

Can any 3 of you agree on a good solid scope that reliably tracks and won’t break the bank?

Were you dropped on your head?

This thread is the runner up to the Optics and Ammo LLC thread for post count.

Less than 9 hours to go for 2023. Make this thread go over the Optics and Ammo LLC thread post count.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Staying the course and for more R&D of the ilk,I ordered a NightFarce NX8 2.5-20x 50mm F1 Mil-XT. It will obviously DESTROY the glaring piece of fhuqking schit Reupold MK5 3.6-18x,so I'll be curious to see how it do against the 5-20x HD FFP Mil/Mil LitBitch. Hint.

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

The Trijicon must've worked out.
The Nightmare will bust in the box John JR will cry and bitch then call everyone [bleep] and tell everyone he's rich.

He's currently drawing the "straight" line and shooting the groups with a 22 pistol as we speak. Got to get it done before the New Years bender sets in. HINT.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

This in spades
CS didn’t even care to listen, when I called. As you said that scope in FFP , and I added a 4a in SFP .
I think they would sell boatloads of them.

Fhuqk it. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by irfubar

Hey Jimmypop, are you related to Cornpop?

Nope, jiffy pop is a distant relative but corn keeps messing up my credit on the streets.

Your butter buddy John Jr is spending his Christmas bonus on scopes. Jelly of the month just wasn't enough.

NXS 3-15 x50 is easily the best scope in the line. I have a buddy that has one,been trying to buy it from him for years.

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If only the NXS 2.5-10x 42mm were FFP,but alas. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

This in spades
CS didn’t even care to listen, when I called. As you said that scope in FFP , and I added a 4a in SFP .
I think they would sell boatloads of them.

NF gets a lot of things right, but hunting reticles don't seem to be their strong suit. I live with a few of their SFP's that top out at 10x or so, but it isn't my first choice. If they offered a good hunting MIL FFP in the 2.5-10 or 3-10, I think they'd sell a lot more scopes. Something like the THLR or maybe a derivation of a #4 that has a light wire with center dot or cross, 5 mills windage each side of center and 2 mils down on elevation would cover a wide range of big game hunting. Could quickly bracket game with the heavier posts on low X and also have what's needed for long shots with higher X.

Then again, over the past few years, the NF models I've been looking at and buying are routinely out of stock, which would suggest that they don't have a problem with demand, such as it is.

I knew you were a fisherman, but damn...this time you have outdone yourself.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I knew you were a fisherman, but damn...this time you have outdone yourself.

The Nightforce posts were a waste of good chum when a hole’s this hot.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I knew you were a fisherman, but damn...this time you have outdone yourself.

The Nightforce posts were a waste of good chum when a hole’s this hot.

In my heart I believe John Jr is struggling with the cost of good scopes. With SWFA in the slow motion mode, John Jr is trying to find a suitable replacement. China wasn't the answer, Leupold is good only if you can keep the CROSS out of the X position and Nightmares cost cuts into the donut fund.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

NXS 3-15 x50 is easily the best scope in the line. I have a buddy that has one,been trying to buy it from him for years.

I think they made more than one.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

NXS 3-15 x50 is easily the best scope in the line. I have a buddy that has one,been trying to buy it from him for years.

I think they made more than one.

His is autographed by Randy Jackson from American Idol. Cuss if you meet Randy Jackson you can't not get his autograph. Hint!!

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

NXS 3-15 x50 is easily the best scope in the line. I have a buddy that has one,been trying to buy it from him for years.

I think they made more than one.

His is autographed by Randy Jackson from American Idol. Cuss if you meet Randy Jackson you can't not get his autograph. Hint!!

I'd have done the same thing.

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

LOLOLOLOL

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

The Fan Bois just added one more picture to their spank banks and will be in their bunks for a while.

LiL Fish ain't gonna get that scope packed up tonight.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LiL Fish ain't gonna get that scope packed up tonight.

Or any other night. The Alaskan gnome is never gonna give up his “schtick”.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

The Fan Bois just added one more picture to their spank banks and will be in their bunks for a while.

LiL Fish ain't gonna get that scope packed up tonight.

Two tards in a pod.....

Hey John, serious question here, how often do you think about blowing your brains out?

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Originally Posted by l’m-afuckingdolt

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Yes

I have been poisoning my regular repeat customers for years

50 years to be exact

At the same location

I hope they don’t catch on

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Hey John, serious question here, how often do you think about blowing your brains out?

🙄

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Hey John, serious question here, how often do you think about blowing your brains out?

🙄

I thought alwaysatwat was possibly the worst idiot on 24 hr, but jackinthecrack has snatched the prize!

It was a serious question. I'm concerned for his mental health.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

It was a serious question. I'm concerned for his mental health.

You should worry about your mental health.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

It was a serious question. I'm concerned for his mental health.

You should worry about your mental health.

Duly noted.

It was just a question.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

It was a serious question. I'm concerned for his mental health.

You should worry about your mental health.

Duly noted.

It was just a question.

Fucking piece of shit!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

The fact you are trying to prove who you think you are to these folks tells me and a lot of other folks on here who you are as a hunter and outdoorsman. Pathetic but not surprising....

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

Relax. It’s a joke.

You were supposed to laugh. I did.

😂

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

The fact you are trying to prove who you think you are to these folks tells me and a lot of other folks on here who you are as a hunter and outdoorsman. Pathetic but not surprising....

LOLOLOLOL

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

Relax. It’s a joke.

You were supposed to laugh. I did.

😂

Well you got me....lol but not funny. Just kill [bleep], post it and not be dumb and the entire forum wouldn't say a damn word cause they suck too. Your gayness would decrease 10 fold.... bunch of killers on here but you and Burns overlook your forum gayness. Friendly FYI.

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

Relax. It’s a joke.

You were supposed to laugh. I did.

😂

Well you got me....lol but not funny. Just kill [bleep], post it and not be dumb and the entire forum wouldn't say a damn word cause they such too. Your gayness would decrease 10 fold....

Fuqk off you humorless cundt!

😂😂😆🤣

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

It was a serious question. I'm concerned for his mental health.

No, you're not. You're a douche nozzle

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

Relax. It’s a joke.

You were supposed to laugh. I did.

😂

Well you got me....lol but not funny. Just kill [bleep], post it and not be dumb and the entire forum wouldn't say a damn word cause they such too. Your gayness would decrease 10 fold....

Fuqk off you humorless cundt!

😂😂😆🤣

Ok. About what i expected. Happy New Year!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-afuckingdolt

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Yes

I have been poisoning my regular repeat customers for years

50 years to be exact

At the same location

I hope they don’t catch on

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

It was a serious question. I'm concerned for his mental health.

No, you're not.

Of course I am. It's clear he is in poor physical condition, hopefully not mental too...

maybe we go and dig into the brandishingum weapon a bit more..
there's all kinds of stuff on you on the internet so don't act all high and mighty

Originally Posted by ldholton

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

How is that relevant, and why go all Internet stalker into his work life?

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by GregW

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Rick, of all the things you've ever posted on this forum. This is the biggest little man syndrome illustration of them all. I kinda was a bit sympathetic but this is just stupid silly laughable stuff. I forgave your bare chest BS but holy crap dude.

Relax. It’s a joke.

You were supposed to laugh. I did.

😂

Well you got me....lol but not funny. Just kill [bleep], post it and not be dumb and the entire forum wouldn't say a damn word cause they such too. Your gayness would decrease 10 fold....

Fuqk off you humorless cundt!

😂😂😆🤣

Ok. About what i expected. Happy New Year!

You should expect that after being a humorless cundt.

Happy New Year!

👍🏼

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Hey John, serious question here, how often do you think about blowing your brains out?

🙄

I thought alwaysatwat was possibly the worst idiot on 24 hr, but jackinthecrack has snatched the prize!

All kidding aside, Projection is a real mental health thing.

They always have a tell and try project their issues. Never fails.

GW has Gay issues, Jack_Handjobs has a [bleep] life and wonders what's on the other side.

Any word on a tracking # for the MK V?

Can anyone fill me in on what’s going on in this thread… summarize.
S

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by ldholton

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

How is that relevant, and why go all Internet stalker into his work life?

I just treat people with the same dignity and respect on here they treat me.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by ldholton

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

How is that relevant, and why go all Internet stalker into his work life?

Larry is struggling at life and envy rules him.

Quote

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it.[1]

Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have"

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Hey John, serious question here, how often do you think about blowing your brains out?

🙄

I thought alwaysatwat was possibly the worst idiot on 24 hr, but jackinthecrack has snatched the prize!

All kidding aside, Projection is a real mental health thing.

They always have a tell and try project their issues. Never fails.

GW has Gay issues, Jack_Handjobs has a [bleep] life and wonders what's on the other side.

Any word on a tracking # for the MK V?

That bad huh? Well johnny "gotnofamily" burns, i hope you seek help. Reach out before you take measures into your own sausage fingers...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by ldholton

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

How is that relevant, and why go all Internet stalker into his work life?

Larry is struggling at life and envy rules him.

Quote

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it.[1]

Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have"

LMAO

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-afuckingdolt

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Yes

I have been poisoning my regular repeat customers for years

50 years to be exact

At the same location

I hope they don’t catch on

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

Paid close to Half A Million Dollars to my father 30 years ago for his business that I ran for 15 years prior

I can post the closing documents if you’d like?

Dig into the “brandishing”.

Everyone here will start cheering my name and send me a medal since it involved BLM rioters

😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by smallfry

Can anyone fill me in on what’s going on in this thread… summarize.
S

People offered to have a scope Stick "tested" checked out by a well known impartial gunsmith who does scope testing. Stick nut suckers are frantically trying to thread slide, while stick ignores the offer.

Leupolds suck. China is good. Nobody not in Alaska has weather.

Originally Posted by smallfry

Can anyone fill me in on what’s going on in this thread… summarize.
S

Big Stick provided evidence leupold mk 5's suck azz.

Leupold white knight camuglia and leupold sleazy salesman Burns came to leupolds rescue. The rest is s hit talking these two bums.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-afuckingdolt

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Yes

I have been poisoning my regular repeat customers for years

50 years to be exact

At the same location

I hope they don’t catch on

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

Paid close to Half A Million Dollars to my father 30 years ago for his business that I ran for 15 years prior

I can post the closing documents if you’d like?

Dig into the “brandishing”.

Everyone here will start cheering my name and send me a medal since it involved BLM rioters

😂🤣😂

I can agree with you on the BLM situation.. fact is it was still an issue. probably would even been a bigger issue if I was there lol

why do you and burns get us off thriving being just such dicks to people though that's the real question and a serious question

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

The rest is s hit talking these two bums.

That seems to be your contribution in every post on 24hr

Look in the mirror Quasimodo

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

The rest is s hit talking these two bums.

That seems to be your contribution in every post on 24hr

You don't say lol?!

What a dumb f uck.

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-afuckingdolt

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Yes

I have been poisoning my regular repeat customers for years

50 years to be exact

At the same location

I hope they don’t catch on

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

Paid close to Half A Million Dollars to my father 30 years ago for his business that I ran for 15 years prior

I can post the closing documents if you’d like?

Dig into the “brandishing”.

Everyone here will start cheering my name and send me a medal since it involved BLM rioters

😂🤣😂

I can agree with you on the BLM situation.. fact is it was still an issue. probably would even been a bigger issue if I was there lol

why do you and burns get us off thriving being just such dicks to people though that's the real question and a serious question

I’m a dick to people being dicks to me

Dick

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by l’m-afuckingdolt

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

This is just sad man.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I usually only autograph photos for the fans

Rifle had a Leupold on it. Head has a Leupold hat on it

😂😝🤣

Fans .. LMAO is that the ones that you give food poisoning to through the restaurant? it's well documented so don't try to deny

Yes

I have been poisoning my regular repeat customers for years

50 years to be exact

At the same location

I hope they don’t catch on

well first you inherited

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/448/1214/636953/

do I keep digging and looking or what

Paid close to Half A Million Dollars to my father 30 years ago for his business that I ran for 15 years prior

I can post the closing documents if you’d like?

Dig into the “brandishing”.

Everyone here will start cheering my name and send me a medal since it involved BLM rioters

😂🤣😂

I can agree with you on the BLM situation.. fact is it was still an issue. probably would even been a bigger issue if I was there lol

why do you and burns get us off thriving being just such dicks to people though that's the real question and a serious question

I’m a dick to people being dicks to me

Dick

well I guess we got that in common. and to be honest with you I doubt I started this [bleep] show between you Burns and such. but I'm done. I doubt either one of you two boys would treat people with the disrespect and attitude you do on here face to face.
I'm trying to start out new here for the new year freaking peace out

people don't have to agree on stuff to just be reasonable but apparently here on the campfire that don't work

They view any negativity towards leupold as a personal attack, because they own (or sell) leupolds. Nobody wants to admit to being a rube, so the mental midgets lash out...it's pretty simple.

Originally Posted by ldholton

why do you and burns get us off thriving being just such dicks to people though that's the real question and a serious question

Might be time for a big drink of water and bed time, Larry.

Be a whole new year when you wake up and lots of chances for you to get things turned around.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by smallfry

Can anyone fill me in on what’s going on in this thread… summarize.
S

People offered to have a scope Stick "tested" checked out by a well known impartial gunsmith who does scope testing. Stick nut suckers are frantically trying to thread slide, while stick ignores the offer.

Leupolds suck. China is good. Nobody not in Alaska has weather.

1). Rick is always gonna be the dumbest guy in the room
2). Nobody sends anything of value to fughking Albuquerque.

Know how testing goes?

Day 1: Scope is stolen off porch
Day 2: scope is pawned at Uncle Navajo’s turquoise/silver/dreamcatcher/switchblade Gift Shop. Perp uses proceeds to buy fry-bread.
Day3: Rick sits alone and alternates between staring a hole in the floor, and scouring the fire for a chance to fire another of his “if you think______you’re too stupid to talk about_____” zingers.

Three chin Johnny spends another evening in quiet desperation wondering; did he give up on life, or did life give up on him.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by ldholton

why do you and burns get us off thriving being just such dicks to people though that's the real question and a serious question

Might be time for a big drink of water and bed time, Larry.

Be a whole new year when you wake up and lots of chances for you to get things turned around.

LMAO

well you see that some people maybe.I owe 0 to anybody

farm cows and equipment both farm and industrial are paid for
. I don't really have to do another damn thing the rest of my life. so yeah I guess that's losing... it's a sad sack to stay on the internet trying to insult everybody else and hype their self up whenever it's very obvious that they got issues... but thanks for the wishes and maybe your issues will get resolved this next year

Originally Posted by goalie

People offered to have a scope Stick "tested" checked out by a well known impartial gunsmith who does scope testing. Stick nut suckers are frantically trying to thread slide, while stick ignores the offer.

Leupolds suck. China is good. Nobody not in Alaska has weather.

Originally Posted by tucsonan

1). Rick is always gonna be the dumbest guy in the room
2). Nobody sends anything of value to fughking Albuquerque.

Know how testing goes?

Day 1: Scope is stolen off porch
Day 2: scope is pawned at Uncle Navajo’s turquoise/silver/dreamcatcher/switchblade Gift Shop. Perp uses proceeds to buy fry-bread.
Day3: Rick sits alone and alternates between staring a hole in the floor, and scouring the fire for a chance to fire another of his “if you think______you’re too stupid to talk about_____” zingers.

Three chin Johnny spends another evening in quiet desperation wondering; did he gave up on life, or did life gave up on him.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by smallfry

Can anyone fill me in on what’s going on in this thread… summarize.
S

People offered to have a scope Stick "tested" checked out by a well known impartial gunsmith who does scope testing. Stick nut suckers are frantically trying to thread slide, while stick ignores the offer.

Leupolds suck. China is good. Nobody not in Alaska has weather.

1). Rick is always gonna be the dumbest guy in the room
2). Nobody sends anything of value to fughking Albuquerque.

Know how testing goes?

Day 1: Scope is stolen off porch
Day 2: scope is pawned at Uncle Navajo’s turquoise/silver/dreamcatcher/switchblade Gift Shop. Perp uses proceeds to buy fry-bread.
Day3: Rick sits alone and alternates between staring a hole in the floor, and scouring the fire for a chance to fire another of his “if you think______you’re too stupid to talk about_____” zingers.

Three chin Johnny spends another evening in quiet desperation wondering; did he gave up on life, or did life gave up on him.

LMAO..........

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

They view any negativity towards leupold as a personal attack, because they own (or sell) leupolds. Nobody wants to admit to being a rube, so the mental midgets lash out...it's pretty simple.

I don’t

There are many good scope offerings in the market and I’ve posted as such.

I’ve had great success with Leupolds in the field and in National Matches and don’t think i would have done better with any other product so I stand by my experience

The LDS is weird and downright slanderous

I have two other friends who have won National Matches and killed Big Game at long range with Leupolds

JohnBurns has posted scores of long range success pics and videos with Leupolds

Maybe you’re a LDS afflicted dummy.

🎯🎯🎯

Holy freaking hurt feelings in a stick thread that don't include stick.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

I'm too sober to relate to the alcohol induced whining about feelings, but it sure is funny.

Originally Posted by goalie

Holy freaking hurt feelings in a stick thread that don't include stick.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

I'm too sober to relate to the alcohol induced whining about feelings, but it sure is funny.

Maybe you could just go straight to calling his grandkid a bastard, again, and really class this thread up. “Minnnesota style”

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Maybe you could just go straight to calling his grandkid a bastard, again, and really class this thread up. “Minnnesota style”

Looks like you just “went there”

Dumbfuqk

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Maybe you could just go straight to calling his grandkid a bastard, again, and really class this thread up. “Minnnesota style”

Yeah, I mean, the word has a meaning, and it fits. Plus, he went after my son, and, well, once you do that, it's on.

Heck, like I've said before, his behavior probably has a lot to do with why he doesn't have a son. Yet, he's on here, after that, calling someone else's son a retard.

GFY

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Maybe you could just go straight to calling his grandkid a bastard, again, and really class this thread up. “Minnnesota style”

Looks like you just “went there”

Respectfully,

Dumbfuqk

Fixed it for you

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Maybe you could just go straight to calling his grandkid a bastard, again, and really class this thread up. “Minnnesota style”

Yeah, I mean, the word has a meaning, and it fits. Plus, he went after my son, and, well, once you do that, it's on.

Heck, like I've said before, his behavior probably has a lot to do with why he doesn't have a son. Yet, he's on here, after that, calling someone else's son a retard.

GFY

Context understood

^^^sock^^^

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

^^^sock^^^

No sock—I’ve met fire members face to face, they’ve been to my house.

You’d seem twice as smart if you talked half as much

400 posts in 13 years

😁

Survey says!

SOCK

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

400 posts in 13 years

😁

Survey says!

SOCK

Why did you have to edit, did you spell “sock” wrong.

Originally Posted by tucsonan

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

400 posts in 13 years

😁

Survey says!

SOCK

Why did you have to edit, did you spell “sock” wrong.

Added the “survey says”

Newkirk inspired…

Look at the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club try and slide the thread.

Let's get that MK V on a test fixture or a good rifle. STAT.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

They view any negativity towards leupold as a personal attack, because they own (or sell) leupolds. Nobody wants to admit to being a rube, so the mental midgets lash out...it's pretty simple.

I don’t

Pathetic leupold white knight...

Originally Posted by gluckgluck4k

Look at the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club try and slide the thread.

Let's get that MK V on a test fixture or a good rifle. STAT.

The sleazy used car salesman...I mean leupold salesman appears, from his drunken slumber... or diabetic coma.....

How did that elk hunt work out for you? Your wanna be buddy Tactical Travis didn't seem to care.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Left out last night, drove for hours, get camp set up and wouldn't you know I've already got elk in the spotter....going to be a great year. Large group of cows, no bulls, appears the rut ain't here yet..

Hey LT Deflave, f uck you.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Watched about 100 head today, one decent 320 bull with about 30 cows. Still looking for the big one. I did bury my pickup in a mud hole. Luckily I'm not a prick like LT deflave and got some help from some nice Mormon fellers.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Bumped a 340 bull last night with about 15 cows. A class of bull I've been looking for this entire hunt. Now I'm excited.

Here is a picture so you can see what a bull looks like.

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

I ended up killing a small 6pt. What did you shoot this season fat f uck?

That's from 20yrs ago lol

Ps I hate LT deflave...about as much as you.

Lol

3 chins....impressive

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

He’s definitely made you his bitch.

😂

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Lol

3 chins....impressive

THE GIZARD!

Lol

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

He’s definitely made you his bitch.

😂

The only thing he makes his bi tch is a hoagie and Jim beam.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

It's easy to get a nice bull elk with a Leupold on the rifle. Jackie_Handjob can at least gaze upon a good bull through her screen.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

He’s definitely made you his bitch.

😂

The only thing he makes his bi tch is me

Out of an alfalfa field lol no thanks.

At least the kid isn't a whale like the gizard. Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

He’s definitely made you his bitch.

😂

The only thing he makes his bi tch is me

TMI

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Your anger over Rick and I stomping on Tactical Travis and sending her packing is funny.

She’s been quiet

Jackie in the box is menstruating

She sure can't get an elk killed.

Taking about yer old lady? Oh wait......lol

He’s definitely made you his bitch.

😂

The only thing he makes his bi tch is me

TMI

freudian slip by cumiglia..

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

Check the post again

Originally posted by Jackie.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

The only thing he makes his bi tch is me

I really struck a cord with these two soft b itches! Got'em all riled up lol

F ucking losers

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

Projection is a real thing.

Always the tell.

Jackie_Handjob really struggles at elk hunting.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Bushnell LRHS-2 4.5-18 x 44 G2H to replace a swfa 3-9x42 HD.

Did I make a wise decision?

I'm keeping the super chicken, but due to a mishap on an elk hunt that wouldn't have happened with a scope with either zero stop or locking turret, I'm trying the bushnell. Yes the one time I didn't write my elevation revolution on my dope card, my turret got spun.

Hope it tracks and holds zero.

She should have bought a Leupold.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

No. I put those types of people in prison.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Projection is a real thing.

Always the tell.

Yes you project a serious uncle Rico vibe. You live in the past because it's all you got. You're a washed up, obese, drunk.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Yes you project a serious uncle Rico vibe. You live in the past because it's all you got. You're a washed up, obese, drunk.

More projection for sure

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

Projection is a real thing.

Always the tell.

Jackie_Handjob really struggles at elk hunting.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Bushnell LRHS-2 4.5-18 x 44 G2H to replace a swfa 3-9x42 HD.

Did I make a wise decision?

I'm keeping the super chicken, but due to a mishap on an elk hunt that wouldn't have happened with a scope with either zero stop or locking turret, I'm trying the bushnell. Yes the one time I didn't write my elevation revolution on my dope card, my turret got spun.

Hope it tracks and holds zero.

She should have bought a Leupold.

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handy

Bushnell LRHS-2 4.5-18 x 44 G2H to replace a swfa 3-9x42 HD.

Did I make a wise decision?

I'm keeping the super chicken, but due to a mishap on an elk hunt that wouldn't have happened with a scope with either zero stop or locking turret, I'm trying the bushnell. Yes the one time I didn't write my elevation revolution on my dope card, my turret got spun.

Hope it tracks and holds zero.

LOLOLOLOL

It's tracked perfectly btw, unlike many a reupold. Weird

So the gizard is so worked up he's reading all my prior posts. You better calm down fat f uck, your blood pressure is in the danger zone.

Thats impressively pathetic gizard.

Burns is jaba the hut and cumiglia is salacious crumb lol

Originally Posted by Jackie gives handjobs

You have defeated me

Originally Posted by salaciouscrumb

Originally Posted by Jackie hurt their feelers

You have defeated me

Awww little Ricky big mad lol

Fu cking b itch

Originally Posted by Jackie the handjob pro

I’m grasping

Help

Someone

Originally Posted by salaciouscrumb

Originally Posted by Jackwasameanie

Cumiglia is a soft bi tch

I'm sorry for rubbing your nose in your b itchness....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

Projection is a real thing.

Always the tell.

Jackie_Handjob really struggles at elk hunting.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Bushnell LRHS-2 4.5-18 x 44 G2H to replace a swfa 3-9x42 HD.

Did I make a wise decision?

I'm keeping the super chicken, but due to a mishap on an elk hunt that wouldn't have happened with a scope with either zero stop or locking turret, I'm trying the bushnell. Yes the one time I didn't write my elevation revolution on my dope card, my turret got spun.

Hope it tracks and holds zero.

She should have bought a Leupold. At least she can see what a bull elk looks like through her screen. Poor girl'z never going to get one in her life.

Awww you had to post a pic of a retired seal you paid to hangout with you. Thats cute.

Free hunt, free gun, AND a free hat! Lol

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

Projection is a real thing.

Always the tell.

Jackie_Handjob really struggles at elk hunting.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Bushnell LRHS-2 4.5-18 x 44 G2H to replace a swfa 3-9x42 HD.

Did I make a wise decision?

I'm keeping the super chicken, but due to a mishap on an elk hunt that wouldn't have happened with a scope with either zero stop or locking turret, I'm trying the bushnell. Yes the one time I didn't write my elevation revolution on my dope card, my turret got spun.

Hope it tracks and holds zero.

She should have bought a Leupold. At least she can see what a bull elk looks like through her screen. Poor girl'z never going to get one in her life.

Groupies gonna groupie....

I really touched a nerve on ol gizard....or it could just be the extra 209lbs of fat that's got his sciatica fired up lol lol lol

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Is that how you get close to children burns?....that's how you get the hooks in huh....

And now the pedofiliac fantasies start.

Fruitcake

Projection is a real thing.

Always the tell.

Jackie_Handjob really struggles at elk hunting.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Bushnell LRHS-2 4.5-18 x 44 G2H to replace a swfa 3-9x42 HD.

Did I make a wise decision?

I'm keeping the super chicken, but due to a mishap on an elk hunt that wouldn't have happened with a scope with either zero stop or locking turret, I'm trying the bushnell. Yes the one time I didn't write my elevation revolution on my dope card, my turret got spun.

Hope it tracks and holds zero.

She should have bought a Leupold. At least she can see what a bull elk looks like through her screen. Poor girl'z never going to get one in her life.

All I have to say after reading this entertaining train wreck of a thread with all its insults, arrogance and endless awkward reacharounds, is HAPPY NEW YEAR to all you crazy sum bitches.

Originally Posted by mod7rem

All I have to say after reading this entertaining train wreck of a thread with all its insults, arrogance and endless awkward reacharounds, is HAPPY NEW YEAR to all you crazy sum bitches.

Stay tuned mod! Stick has several more scopes to go..!

Some serious bulls posted above.
Some serious bullscheit posted above too, but none the less.
Stick ever say what that 1-8x Trijicon did for him?

Got hung up on Chrome or the weather was less than optimal,so never flogged upon the Trijicon. Initial finger fhuqking was warm/fuzzy,I like the way turrets zero/install,the reticle is friendly and the bitch is daylight BRIGHT. Have the Barkin' ARKEN LPVO to flog,along with a coupla NightFarce and am expecting several others in the Mail as well. Will have a Vudoo Party to shake innards out and will extrapolate from there. Might toss the K&P Dasher spout on my Accuracy International AT,as a secondary introduction to recoil,on the cited innards. Obviously,the MK5 is relegated to rattlin' pom-pom's from the sidelines,though I reckon a guy could club fish with it and it might work there. Hint.

Nice to see The Crying CLUELESS Kchunts flying through Perpetual Hurt Feeler Reports,so as to substantiate their Professional Victims' Status,in this New Year. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I seem to have really got under burns' skin. He got pretty fired up, had tobstart posting pictures of all the people he pays to be his friend lol

I assume it sounds a lot like this...setting up these "hunts"...

You're just jealous because you can't pay anybody enough to be your friend.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

You're just jealous because you can't pay anybody enough to be your friend.

I'm just having fun. I can assure you I have zero jealousy towards the gizard lol.

I will say the bushy lrhs2 has served me well. Two bulls in two seasons, I can't complain. It's alo been reliable even through some spills on the mountain. More than a reupold could withstand I assure you.

All new to me. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

My goals for 2024,

Make it through this thread.

LOL……I ‘ll keep trying.

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Or we can take the man's word that there is an issue and go about our daily lives in peace...or not.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Or we can take the man's word that there is an issue and go about our daily lives in peace...or not.

We finally agree on something.

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Or we can take the man's word that there is an issue and go about our daily lives in peace...or not.

But that wouldn’t give you 60 pages of posts that a psychiatrist would have a field day with.

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

My rifle took a 3 foot fall this past season. It doesn't happen often but it isn't real rare either. Steep hillside, wet leaves over a wet rock, slick as ice. I checked zero that afternoon and the Leupold was still putting them 2" high at 100, right where it's supposed to.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Or we can take the man's word that there is an issue and go about our daily lives in peace...or not.

The attempt to cope runs strong in the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

THE WIZARD predicted the stuggles but Stevie Wonder saw this fake test coming.

Lying Liars love Lying Liars.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Or we can take the man's word that there is an issue and go about our daily lives in peace...or not.

The attempt to cope runs strong in the LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club.

THE WIZARD predicted the stuggles but Stevie Wonder saw this fake test coming.

Lying Liars love Lying Liars.

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Apart from his pictures Stick doesn't have much that interests me...you, even less so.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

My rifle took a 3 foot fall this past season. It doesn't happen often but it isn't real rare either. Steep hillside, wet leaves over a wet rock, slick as ice. I checked zero that afternoon and the Leupold was still putting them 2" high at 100, right where it's supposed to.

Can’t beat that with a stick. I’d have never wandered if mine fared as well mostly.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

Or we can take the man's word that there is an issue and go about our daily lives in peace...or not.

Actually I wasn’t even thinking about that. I don’t actually have any issues with what the OP did for his test I was just reading this other thread and thought the testing procedure made sense.

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

He recreates common impacts that have happened to him in use. Rifle riding around uncased in vehicle, rifle knocked over when leaned up against something, rifle on bipod knocked over.
Some people argue that the drop tests done by Formidilisus are abusive and not practical, but those same people might not think so in this case.

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

He recreates common impacts that have happened to him in use. Rifle riding around uncased in vehicle, rifle knocked over when leaned up against something, rifle on bipod knocked over.
Some people argue that the drop tests done by Formidilisus are abusive and not practical, but those same people might not think so in this case.

I’d agree with that. Hunt hard enough and stuff happens.

Anyone who has never experienced any kind of scope failure, regardless of brand, hasn’t made enough spent primers to fill a teaspoon

I was crossing a creek in the dark while elk hunting and broke though the ice into knee deep water,, landing on the rifle with the scope hitting first. Hunted the rest of the day, didn't see any elk, and it was a good thing.
When slipping my rifle into a case at the truck I noticed the objective end was bent down toward the barrel. Pulled the bolt out to do a quick crude boresight and that Leupold was right on the money, verified with a couple test shots.

Just kidding, it wasn't even hitting "minute of hillside."

Sent it in to Leupold to see if they could fix it. They told me to buy a new one.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

I was crossing a creek in the dark while elk hunting and broke though the ice into knee deep water,, landing on the rifle with the scope hitting first. Hunted the rest of the day, didn't see any elk, and it was a good thing.
When slipping my rifle into a case at the truck I noticed the objective end was bent down toward the barrel. Pulled the bolt out to do a quick crude boresight and that Leupold was right on the money, verified with a couple test shots.

Just kidding, it wasn't even hitting "minute of hillside."

Sent it in to Leupold to see if they could fix it. They told me to buy a new one.

You can send them a box of smashed parts and they will replace the scope, no questions asked. Same not true for many other "warranties"

60' toss and a couple nice bounces off rocks. Hint.

Flipside. My MK5 couldn't make the "trip" from shipping container,to World Class Rifle and HILARIOUSLY took a rifle that shoots in the .2's to 1-1/2" ++. Hint.

Simply return it's original glass and it's back in the .2's,tracking like it has eyes. Too bad Reupold can't get their schit together,in the real World. It's interesting that $300 offerings from others,trump the mechanics of a $2000 Reupold. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Flipside. My MK5 couldn't make the "trip" from shipping container,to World Class Rifle and HILARIOUSLY took a rifle that shoots in the .2's to 1-1/2" ++. Hint.

Doubt it. Much more likely a guy shooting off a backpack made a rifle that shoots in the .2's shoot into 1 1/2" ++. Hint.

New year, same old BS Riar Rarry.

Try that shtick over at long range forums. Oh, that's right, they booted your ass for being a fraud and troll. Hint

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Anyone who has never experienced any kind of scope failure, regardless of brand, hasn’t made enough spent primers to fill a teaspoon

Tell us more.

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

Myriad ways and settings in which to hunt big game. A 3' drop isn't uncommon when carrying a rifle in hand while walking the better part of a day over rough terrain. When snow tracking through blow down infested timber and swamps and/or limb strewn cut overs, I would say that it's not uncommon for most to experience several trips and slips in a day, some of which will eventually result in a rifle drop or impact.

You Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqktards are a HOOT,as you "live" vicariously. The bench is 1" steel plate,were it MPAJ,I'd of simply cited same. Hint.

Keep filing Hurt Feeler Reports,waxing eloquent upon your very WELL founded Brokedick Insecurities and Fantasizing wares wayyyyyyyyyyy beyond your "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even Crying CLUELESS Kchunts can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

To be continued. Hint.....................

Failure to have a consistent cant. A missed 3mph. "Shouldering" the rifle. Poor NPA. Poor reticle focus, astigmatism. Lack of follow through.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Anyone who has never experienced any kind of scope failure, regardless of brand, hasn’t made enough spent primers to fill a teaspoon

My brother is fifty years of age and has been hunting since he was sixteen, I know he hasn't had any scopes fail as I supply his gear. He shot camels for coin and didn't have any failures then either.
.

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Would everyone here agree that this testing procedure is sensible and meaningful? Seems to cover all the bases.

-static tracking test.
-live fire to test tracking and zero retention.
-zero retention test with common use impacts.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385

What is a "common use impact"? In a hunting situation, a 3 foot drop is not a common use impact. More likely would be bumping the barrel against a blind or tree, or jarring/vibration from travel on an ATV or vehicle. Or even recoil alone if it is a heavier recoiling rifle.

A 3 foot drop in a hunting situation would demand at least a quick sight in check shot, before taking a shot at an animal. No matter what tests had previously been done to the scope and/or rifle.

3' drops probably happen with some regularity to guided/outfitted hunters using horses/stock and scabbards they don't normally use. Probably happens to the regular users of same from time to time as well. Horse/Mule gives a wiggle while the rifle is going in/out of the scabbard and the rifle is out of your hands.

People hunting afoot in any sort of slick conditions. Snow/ice, mud, that nasty-slick bentonite/gumbo, pushing/walking/deer-drives through CRP or Cattails is still common in the prairie states and any of that stuff can wrap around your feet and trip you. Then of course if you add "steep" to "slippery" anywhere you're hunting afoot, drops can, do, and will happen.

Scopes it's let me down at the worst time I've been the same sort of two different Nikon monarch UCC.. the last ones I ever owned there may be a reason they're out of the rifle scope business. they made it right they sent me new ones but I never mounted the new ones.

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

I was crossing a creek in the dark while elk hunting and broke though the ice into knee deep water,, landing on the rifle with the scope hitting first. Hunted the rest of the day, didn't see any elk, and it was a good thing.
When slipping my rifle into a case at the truck I noticed the objective end was bent down toward the barrel. Pulled the bolt out to do a quick crude boresight and that Leupold was right on the money, verified with a couple test shots.

Just kidding, it wasn't even hitting "minute of hillside."

Sent it in to Leupold to see if they could fix it. They told me to buy a new one.

You can send them a box of smashed parts and they will replace the scope, no questions asked. Same not true for many other "warranties"

They sure did not for me. Maybe it's different now, This was in the later '90s.

What kind of hunter wouldn't check zero anyway after one of these "common use" mishaps? If you don't you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

What kind of hunter wouldn't check zero anyway after one of these "common use" mishaps? If you don't you're an idiot.

Thank you. Exactly my point.

Even if a drop test under controlled conditions didn't result in any POI shift, the next drop or fall could move it 2 feet

I check zero on my whichever rifles I’m hunting with before season.
Had a few eye openers.

I've had my fair share of disappointments,by simply taking a NIB Reupold out of it's wrapper and shooting it atop Splendid Wares,hunting for a zero,tracking and repeats to no avail. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

One of the little touted uses of a Collimator such as the Bushnel bore sighter is to note where your cross hairs are on the grid when sighted in. If you have a misfortune while hunting and have the device with you, you can check and see if the scope has moved. Not much extra weight in your pack/side by side.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've had my fair share of disappointments,by simply taking a NIB Reupold out of it's wrapper and shooting it atop Splendid Wares,hunting for a zero,tracking and repeats to no avail. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

I'm sure you've had MORE than your share of disappointment.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've had my fair share of disappointments

I'm sure you've had MORE than your share of disappointment.

I was wondering who was going to swing at the easy pitch over the plate. I half expected an "every morning when you look in the mirror" response......

It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how very often Whining CLUELESS Kchunts think about me,as they "live" vicariously in Brokedicktitude. Hint.

Reupold's puke easily and often. Hint.

Though they are handy for (1) thing. Hint.

Flagship puke. Hint.

Play your cards right though and you'll get your Reupold Spotter returned with a rebuilt erector assembly. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by JGRaider

What kind of hunter wouldn't check zero anyway after one of these "common use" mishaps? If you don't you're an idiot.

Thank you. Exactly my point.

Even if a drop test under controlled conditions didn't result in any POI shift, the next drop or fall could move it 2 feet

I don’t think it’s realistic to recheck zero every time the rifle takes a common knock or after it rides in an ATV, truck or horse in some rough conditions. When I’m backpacking hunting in the mountains for sheep or goats, my rifle gets knocked and bumped on rocks often. It’s almost impossible to avoid and it’s impractical to recheck zero after every incident. At least with some testing beforehand, one can get some confidence that the scope and mounts can handle being used in tough conditions. The tests done in the link I provided are not extreme at all and if a scope and mounts don’t hold up to them, then it probably shouldn’t be trusted on a tough hunt.

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by JGRaider

What kind of hunter wouldn't check zero anyway after one of these "common use" mishaps? If you don't you're an idiot.

Thank you. Exactly my point.

Even if a drop test under controlled conditions didn't result in any POI shift, the next drop or fall could move it 2 feet

I don’t think it’s realistic to recheck zero every time the rifle takes a common knock or after it rides in an ATV, truck or horse in some rough conditions. When I’m backpacking hunting in the mountains for sheep or goats, my rifle gets knocked and bumped on rocks often. It’s almost impossible to avoid and it’s impractical to recheck zero after every incident. At least with some testing beforehand, one can get some confidence that the scope and mounts can handle being used in tough conditions. The tests done in the link I provided are not extreme at all and if a scope and mounts don’t hold up to them, then it probably shouldn’t be trusted on a tough hunt.

^^^^^ This.

There have been hunts I'd run out of ammo if I checked my scope after every fall. Steep slopes, snow, rocks/logs make for more than a few falls. Add before/after daylight and a fall or two is almost guaranteed. Id much rather own a rifle and scope capable of a few bumps and bruiss.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how very often Whining CLUELESS Kchunts think about me,as they "live" vicariously in Brokedicktitude. Hint.

Reupold's puke easily and often. Hint.

Though they are handy for (1) thing. Hint.

Flagship puke. Hint.

Play your cards right though and you'll get your Reupold Spotter returned with a rebuilt erector assembly. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

The stuggle boat floats with the current.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My 16x,made it beyond 20K,before the A/O puked.

Beings it failed,it ain't in the above tally and it is in fact,the only Leupie I've crashed.

Broke a 6x42 on installation,but I knowed better(DD's on skewed bridge height,less eccentrics)..................

I went to NFLD this last fall, walked something like 72 miles in 6 rainy foggy days, shot my caribou on the last morning. In that 6 days I walked 72 some miles. I had my feet go out from under me many times and probably landed on my butt or back with a slung rifle pretty much every day. You can add in the typical, in and out of boats etc. In my case my shot was dead on on day 6, and I checked zero when I came back (for deer season) and and there was no shift.
A rifle/mount/scope should be able to hold zero through that kind of thing. It not practical to shoot to confirm zero every time you bump a rifle or fall on your butt.

I will say a hunt like my caribou hunt probably had about the same amount of scope abuse in it as what I do in a decade of hunting deer.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

I was crossing a creek in the dark while elk hunting and broke though the ice into knee deep water,, landing on the rifle with the scope hitting first. Hunted the rest of the day, didn't see any elk, and it was a good thing.
When slipping my rifle into a case at the truck I noticed the objective end was bent down toward the barrel. Pulled the bolt out to do a quick crude boresight and that Leupold was right on the money, verified with a couple test shots.

Just kidding, it wasn't even hitting "minute of hillside."

Sent it in to Leupold to see if they could fix it. They told me to buy a new one.

You can send them a box of smashed parts and they will replace the scope, no questions asked. Same not true for many other "warranties"

They sure did not for me. Maybe it's different now, This was in the later '90s.

Their warranty hasn't changed in 60 years. But, if it is for a discontinued scope they can't repair, they will replace it with a comparable current scope, or tell you the value amount you can put towards any scope in their lineup

Originally Posted by noKnees

I went to NFLD this last fall, walked something like 72 miles in 6 rainy foggy days, shot my caribou on the last morning. In that 6 days I walked 72 some miles. I had my feet go out from under me many times and probably landed on my butt or back with a slung rifle pretty much every day. You can add in the typical, in and out of boats etc. In my case my shot was dead on on day 6, and I checked zero when I came back (for deer season) and and there was no shift.
A rifle/mount/scope should be able to hold zero through that kind of thing. It not practical to shoot to confirm zero every time you bump a rifle or fall on your butt.

I will say a hunt like my caribou hunt probably had about the same amount of scope abuse in it as what I do in a decade of hunting deer.

Which is why it's always so odd - guy sights in, goes deer hunting. Shoots his deer, puts rifle away. Next year, needs to go out and "resight in/check the scope" and adjusts scope some more/again. Why would a scope ever simply change POI while sitting in the safe, yet the routine/practice persists amongst American hunters. "Check the rifle, adjust the rifle" even tho that rifle did nothing but ride the safe for 8 months.

Reupold MK4 16's do not have A/O,but these do. Hint.

Puke. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I buy/use/love Leupold,as issued.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1.

Roughly in that order.....................

The Struggles are real and were predicted by THE WIZARD

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Will be interested in your thoughts on the Mark 5.

LOL.

The Struggles will be EPIC.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I buy/use/love Leupold,as issued.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1.

Roughly in that order.....................

Time stamps for the above?

Originally Posted by hillestadj

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I buy/use/love Leupold,as issued.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1.

Roughly in that order.....................

Time stamps for the above?

About the same time period as most of those bull pics he posted, between 100-125lbs ago(?)
I’m guessing the rubix cube was a hot item then.

Originally Posted by bwinters

Originally Posted by mod7rem

Originally Posted by KenMi

Originally Posted by JGRaider

What kind of hunter wouldn't check zero anyway after one of these "common use" mishaps? If you don't you're an idiot.

Thank you. Exactly my point.

Even if a drop test under controlled conditions didn't result in any POI shift, the next drop or fall could move it 2 feet

I don’t think it’s realistic to recheck zero every time the rifle takes a common knock or after it rides in an ATV, truck or horse in some rough conditions. When I’m backpacking hunting in the mountains for sheep or goats, my rifle gets knocked and bumped on rocks often. It’s almost impossible to avoid and it’s impractical to recheck zero after every incident. At least with some testing beforehand, one can get some confidence that the scope and mounts can handle being used in tough conditions. The tests done in the link I provided are not extreme at all and if a scope and mounts don’t hold up to them, then it probably shouldn’t be trusted on a tough hunt.

^^^^^ This.

There have been hunts I'd run out of ammo if I checked my scope after every fall. Steep slopes, snow, rocks/logs make for more than a few falls. Add before/after daylight and a fall or two is almost guaranteed. Id much rather own a rifle and scope capable of a few bumps and bruiss.

That's my thinking as well. If I have to be scared of every bump or knock I'd never get very far. I take care of the rifles, but snow, rocks and generally hunting in uneven terrain says something is going to give, and it's usually me!

I've yet to see a fhuqking Reupold 4.5-14x of ANY ilk,that was worth a fhuqk. Hint.

Puke. Hint.

Hell...there's LOTSA folks who have a fhuqking freak out,over moisture. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

SS, DD

Boring!

Originally Posted by jackmountain

About the same time period as most of those bull pics he posted, between 100-125lbs ago(?)
I’m guessing the rubix cube was a hot item then.

So three chins ago for stick?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by hillestadj

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I buy/use/love Leupold,as issued.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1,Leupold 3.5-10x M1.

Roughly in that order.....................

Time stamps for the above?

About the same time period as most of those bull pics he posted, between 100-125lbs ago(?)
I’m guessing the rubix cube was a hot item then.

Lol. That was before Riar Rarry became the Asian pimp and company advisor to SWFA. He made their business BOOM. Hint. Lol.

(3) Professional Victims Whining in unison,is rather heart warming. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

(3) Professional Victims Whining in unison,is rather heart warming. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

You're fat enough to stay warm without any outside help.

Fat, and a Biden loving libtard.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Joan,

Just exactly what is it,that you are trying to bitch about? Hint.

Kudos on your favorite Movie and "magically" becoming a "our",as you Whine aloud about your Brokedicktitude being someone else's "fault",while your skies fall. It ain't. Hint.

If only again:

"What EXACTLY are you kchunts now crying about? How did your World get "worse"?!? The sky is falling,ain't reality,though a barometer of your "abilities". Hint.

Wages have never been higher. Opportunities have never been greater. The 401K limit has never been bigger. Investment opportunities abound. Interest rates were never lower. Where/how do you gals "live",to be so fhuqking AMAZINGLY tender? Hint.

These ARE The Good Old Days. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............''

Riar Rarry in his pitiful abode. But the BC numbers are big on paper. Hint

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

About the same time period as most of those bull pics he posted, between 100-125lbs ago(?)
I’m guessing the rubix cube was a hot item then.

So three chins ago for stick?

You two get a room, shower liner, and bottle of baby oil.

At least she can "afford" to "live" vicariously and greedily reads my EVERY word and Splendid Pixel,while filling out Hurt Feeler Reports and quantifying Professional Victim Status. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

At least she can "afford" to "live" vicariously and greedily reads my EVERY word and Splendid Pixel,while filling out Hurt Feeler Reports and quantifying Professional Victim Status. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

The Leupold 6x42mm,is my favorite Hunting glass. I have zero knowledge of the Weaver offering. I like this model due to it's coating,as you mentioned. Also,it is very rugged and light in weight. The glass is quite bright,has great eye-relief,and can be had with an elevation turret(major consideration,for me). The tube is of sufficient length,to allow max flexibility in mounting,not true of all scopes(Burris especially). I have faith in Weaver and dote on their T-series,but for a rugged duty Hunting scope,the Leupold 6x42mm is at the top of my list..........

Originally Posted by Big Stick

In my estimation the best scope for the money,is a Leupold 6x42mm. Tough,bright,great eye relief and light in weight.<P>Now back to the 3-9X question. The 50mm largely gets you nothing,in that power range. Brightness isn't greatly increased and it just increases the chance of damage,because the scope is bigger(more to bang up).<P>I field many 3-9X Vari-X II's and can't complain. You can't get a better variable,for the money..........

I liked George W Bush fifteen years ago.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I liked George W Bush fifteen years ago.

You'd have a point if he wasn't stll constantly posting video and pictures from the exact time those were posted.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🖕

Originally Posted by Big Stick

JJ,<P>I used to use reticle subtention,quite a bit. It can work and well. I've gone a different route on most all my rifles,using an elevation turret. It is just as fast and much more precise.<P>The most common means of reticle subtention,that I use now,is with the mildot reticle. It allows more flexibility,than the duplex reticle,though the principles are the same. I find it a HUGE aid in dealing with wind. <P>A fixed power 6x42mm Leupold with the mil reticle,is an amazingly flexible device.........

Where was Space Force fifteen years ago?

Not even I,can shoot wares until they're invented,if only to the chagrin of Professional Victims and their countless Hurt Feeler Reports,as they "live" vicariously. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't do it with a Duplex,it cain't be done..............

It’s pretty interesting that Bigstick continues to live rent free in so many heads here.

I would think as technology changes, so do opinions, it should be a natural progression for those that actually wring out various offerings.

I have mostly older Bushnell, some tasco and Leupold scopes, I failed an old fisher dietz years ago on a 303 British, they can fail.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I liked George W Bush fifteen years ago.

Ok.... but did you consider him the best president ever and berate anyone who didn't agree with you? if the answer is yes, you and Stick are true "pards"...... brother

Imitation remains THE most Sincere form of Flattery,especially when fueled by Imaginary Pretend Ignore. You gals think about me,more than anyone does you. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

A trend is more than (2)...and I'll cite that the only Leupie I've ever puked by shooting,was a 1" 16x A/O.

If only for starters.................

Professional Victim Snake Oil Salesman are funnier than fhuqk! Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't kill it wit a standad duplex,it ain't gonna get killed with ANYTHING else.

Leupie will of course continue to get my loot.................

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't kill it wit a standad duplex,it ain't gonna get killed with ANYTHING else.

Leupie will of course continue to get my loot.................

People can change. Look at yourself. 300 pounds fatter than your glory pics 30yrs ago. Everyone evolves in life, or devolves in your case.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

JJ,<P>I used to use reticle subtention,quite a bit. It can work and well. I've gone a different route on most all my rifles,using an elevation turret. It is just as fast and much more precise.<P>The most common means of reticle subtention,that I use now,is with the mildot reticle. It allows more flexibility,than the duplex reticle,though the principles are the same. I find it a HUGE aid in dealing with wind. <P>A fixed power 6x42mm Leupold with the mil reticle,is an amazingly flexible device.........

Originally Posted by goalie

I've had good luck the last few years with a Mossberg ATR-100 in .270 that cost $244 bucks at Wal-Mart. I topped it with Warne rings and a Leupold VX-III 3.5-10 scope. That combination shoots a paper plate 100% of the time out to 400 yards, which is good enough for me.

I've never needed to shoot it twice at the same animal.

When you set your goals at minute of paper plate with a sub-$250 POS Walmart special it does make success slightly easier to achieve.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't kill it wit a standad duplex,it ain't gonna get killed with ANYTHING else.

Leupie will of course continue to get my loot.................

People can change. Look at yourself. 300 pounds fatter than your glory pics 30yrs ago. Everyone evolves in life, or devolves in your case.

It must suck to have never had a glory day and know you never will. Worst thing in the world is to realize you never lived a life.

LiL fish at least got to see a good shot once. Wonder why the best he's ever watched used a Leupold?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I saw The Pimp kill a Buck in his bed at 1004yds,with his light 243AI wearing 3.5-10x 40mm non-A/O Leupie.

Yes...first poke................

Ocho keeps his fancy shooting to 40 yards. It's "world class".

Originally Posted by jackmountain

When you set your goals at minute of paper plate with a sub-$250 POS Walmart special it does make success slightly easier to achieve.

Despite the BC whining up in here, deer ain't hard to kill. You can even do it with a $220 rifle. 😉

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It must suck to have never had a glory day and know you never will. Worst thing in the world is to realize you never lived a life.

Lucky for me I'm currently younger than you in your "glory days" ego boosters, so hopefully I've got a lot of living left. Good news is I'm not pre-diabetic, nor obese like you. Lol

And shooting a 270 Winchester cartridge. Nice buck.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It must suck to have never had a glory day and know you never will. Worst thing in the world is to realize you never lived a life.

Lucky for me I'm currently younger than you in your "glory days" ego boosters, so hopefully I've got a lot of living left. Good news is I'm not pre-diabetic, nor obese like you. Lol

For inspiration on your quest to stop being a loser at life, notice the Leupold. Not for your spank bank.

So Bigstick, do you charge them rent! 😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

. Not for your spank bank.

Only a no family queer like you would say some gay s hit like that. It's 2024, might as well come out of the closet....everyone already knows.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It must suck to have never had a glory day and know you never will. Worst thing in the world is to realize you never lived a life.

Lucky for me I'm currently younger than you in your "glory days" ego boosters, so hopefully I've got a lot of living left. Good news is I'm not pre-diabetic, nor obese like you. Lol

In my experience, those who have yet to have “glory days” and expect to have some, usually compliment and cheer on those who obviously had success.

They also are interested in how accomplished people got there and ask questions to learn.

In my experience, those who constantly criticize and hope for others to fail, are the worst in society

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Only a no family queer like you would say some gay s hit like that. It's 2024, might as well come out of the closet....everyone already knows.

Exhibit number two

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Only a no family queer like you would say some gay s hit like that. It's 2024, might as well come out of the closet....everyone already knows.

Exhibit number two

Projection and envy is not a path forward for someone who will live a great life.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Only a no family queer like you would say some gay s hit like that. It's 2024, might as well come out of the closet....everyone already knows.

Exhibit number two

Projection and envy is not a path forward for someone who will live a great life.

Some realize that they are incapable of improving.

The only play they have is to attempt to bring the successful down

Pitiful and Pathetic

Nice try shoreacres1 socky puppy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It must suck to have never had a glory day and know you never will. Worst thing in the world is to realize you never lived a life.

Lucky for me I'm currently younger than you in your "glory days" ego boosters, so hopefully I've got a lot of living left. Good news is I'm not pre-diabetic, nor obese like you. Lol

For inspiration on your quest to stop being a loser at life, notice the Leupold. Not for your spank bank.

That the famous antler shot? LOL…

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

In my experience, those who constantly criticize and hope for others to fail, are the worst in society

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

Its funny how you don't see how this describes burns to a tee.

Thing #1 and Thing #2 ghey’ed up another once promising thread, Brothers.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

In my experience, those who constantly criticize and hope for others to fail, are the worst in society

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

Its funny how you don't see how this describes burns to a tee.

Brother,

You’re just jealous you don’t live a life like Brothers Burns or Rick.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

I don't like arrogant pricks, that white knight for s hit companies. Like you and your man crush.

I guess that's a "disorder" to some lol

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

I don't like arrogant pricks, that white knight for s hit companies. Like you and your man crush.

I guess that's a "disorder" to some lol

If it is a disorder then I suffer from the same.

Be SURE to start a Thread,if/when you ever go Outdoors ladies. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..................

Good idea!
I’ll start one on FISH CAMP

You'll steal pics and Pretend. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how very often Whining CLUELESS Kchunts think about me,as they "live" vicariously in Brokedicktitude. Hint.

Reupold's puke easily and often. Hint.

Though they are handy for (1) thing. Hint.

Flagship puke. Hint.

Play your cards right though and you'll get your Reupold Spotter returned with a rebuilt erector assembly. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

The stuggle boat floats with the current.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My 16x,made it beyond 20K,before the A/O puked.

Beings it failed,it ain't in the above tally and it is in fact,the only Leupie I've crashed.

Broke a 6x42 on installation,but I knowed better(DD's on skewed bridge height,less eccentrics)..................

The facts come back to bite Riar Rarry once again. Look at the repair report. He sent it back with a destroyed main tube, destroyed objective lens assembly, and destroyed eyepiece lens assembly. Yeah, it really "puked". A hammer and some rocks were the vomit. What a friggin lunatic fraud.

It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how "real" Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude is,to those who "LIVE" vicariously. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

It'd be more sporting if you crimped the barbs a little... Though it still wouldn't keep them from jumping in the boat.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

You'll steal pics and Pretend. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Now that looks like an awesome time.

The Mud Sucking Bottom Feeding Ladies,are simply POWERLESS in the refrain of my Presentations,which never ain't not funnier than fhuqk. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

Originally Posted by Big Stick

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

A real "world class" psycopath. Hint.

Toothpick factory had to hire another twig harvester.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

I don't like arrogant pricks, that white knight for s hit companies. Like you and your man crush.

I guess that's a "disorder" to some lol

If it is a disorder then I suffer from the same.

LOL.

A Slave and a Child whining about who is the most envious knowing they will never live a life.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

For inspiration on your quest to stop being a loser at life, notice the Leupold. Not for your spank bank.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That the famous antler shot? LOL…

Another classic example of ENVY. You feel pain at my good fortune and instead of putting time and effort into getting yourself an elk you attempt to degrade mine to hide your failures.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

The only thing stopping you from getting a nice bull is your ENVY of others.

I've noted John Burns reference to a "spank bank".

Is this a visual aid tool for John Burns while engaging in masturbation?

I suppose if so, don't be ashamed of what you enjoy.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

I don't like arrogant pricks, that white knight for s hit companies. Like you and your man crush.

I guess that's a "disorder" to some lol

If it is a disorder then I suffer from the same.

LOL.

A Slave and a Child whining about who is the most envious knowing they will never live a life.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

For inspiration on your quest to stop being a loser at life, notice the Leupold. Not for your spank bank.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That the famous antler shot? LOL…

Another classic example of ENVY. You feel pain at my good fortune and instead of putting time and effort into getting yourself an elk you attempt to degrade mine to hide your failures.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

The only thing stopping you from getting a nice bull is your ENVY of others.

Ok, but is that the famous antler shot?

There is some blood on the left antler point as well. Maybe the same bullet hit both antlers. Lol. Talk about grasping at straws. Some actually think a bullet used for hunting elk wouldn't blow that point right off?

Probably the same that drool over Riar Rarry's every mumbling word and think he is credible. HINT

I have hit the antlers, whether it was from one that glanced off the skull or I hit the antler first, it did not blow it off, but made a nice hole through, and did fracture the point and it would come off if pulled on hard enough.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Definitely a personality disorder 👍🏼

I don't like arrogant pricks, that white knight for s hit companies. Like you and your man crush.

I guess that's a "disorder" to some lol

If it is a disorder then I suffer from the same.

LOL.

A Slave and a Child whining about who is the most envious knowing they will never live a life.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

For inspiration on your quest to stop being a loser at life, notice the Leupold. Not for your spank bank.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That the famous antler shot? LOL…

Another classic example of ENVY. You feel pain at my good fortune and instead of putting time and effort into getting yourself an elk you attempt to degrade mine to hide your failures.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

The only thing stopping you from getting a nice bull is your ENVY of others.

You must be getting ready to die soon.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

A Slave and a Child whining about who is the most envious knowing they will never live a life.

[quote=Aristotle]Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by JSTUART

You must be getting ready to die soon.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Soon?

Was that the elk from the video where your spotter called out that you hit it in the antler?

And now hard antler bleeds. TFF

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Was that the elk from the video where your spotter called out that you hit it in the antler?

You have all the info to answer your question, Grasshopper.

Originally Posted by 6MMWASP

And now hard antler bleeds. TFF

Some here don't have much experience with antlers.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

A Slave and a Child whining about who is the most envious knowing they will never live a life.

[quote=Aristotle]Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by JSTUART

You must be getting ready to die soon.

Nice work with the meme. Made me laugh.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Was that the elk from the video where your spotter called out that you hit it in the antler?

You have all the info to answer your question, Grasshopper.

Originally Posted by 6MMWASP

And now hard antler bleeds. TFF

Some here don't have much experience with antlers.

Hahahahahaha!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

If you can't kill it wit a standad duplex,it ain't gonna get killed with ANYTHING else.

Leupie will of course continue to get my loot.................

Isn't that just darling.

well it's pretty much obvious who did not give a New Year's resolution have not drinking so much and not being such a pathetic piece of [bleep] x 2

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Was that the elk from the video where your spotter called out that you hit it in the antler?

You have all the info to answer your question, Grasshopper.

Originally Posted by 6MMWASP

And now hard antler bleeds. TFF

Some here don't have much experience with antlers.

So that’s a yes.
LOL….

Originally Posted by 6MMWASP

And now hard antler bleeds. TFF

Wow. Even Burns knows that’s not true.

Imagine a hunter who thinks hard antler bleeds. Now imagine how many deer it would take for a hunter of below average intelligence to kill before he reconsidered his conclusions.

67 pages and Still no clear winner.

But the lines and sides are still as defined as ever.
Sad asfúck!

Originally Posted by Big Stick

The Mud Sucking Bottom Feeding Ladies,are simply POWERLESS in the refrain of my Presentations,which never ain't not funnier than fhuqk. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

That's hilarious in the context of your rapid fire copy-paste library of screenshots.

Nothing says "I'm a badass who doesn't GAF" like having hundreds of screenshots saved for stat copy-paste action.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how "real" Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude is,to those who "LIVE" vicariously. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Now, if you were to actually post video of you shooting those .2's you constantly refer to, that would be impressive.

My cup runneth over with World Class Wares and it's funnier than fhuqk that Brokedick Professional Victims,are compelled to fill out Hurt Feeler Reports denoting they've never even seen such things,like it's a "secret". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My cup runneth over with World Class Wares and it's funnier than fhuqk that Brokedick Professional Victims,are compelled to fill out Hurt Feeler Reports denoting they've never even seen such things,like it's a "secret". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I'm pretty sure your 500 gig copy-past library is one huge "hurt feelers" report, but please, carry on.

World Class and you'd need a co-signer to touch one. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I get it's your whole "schtick" but it looks kinda pathetic telling a bunch of middle aged guys who most likely all made more that that picture in one day last week in their retirement accounts (even if they just had simple index funds) that they'd need co-signers to buy a rifle or two.

I've been around a lot of wealthy people. None of them needed to tell me about it.

As you'd say: "hint"

Thar picture in a day would be 3+ million a year. One hell of a "retirement" fund.

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

Thar picture in a day would be 3+ million a year. One hell of a "retirement" fund.

Did you pay attention to your accounts last week? A million got you 30K on Thursday

Edit: look at 12/24 to 12/27

Pardon the Splendor of my Awesome Pics. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Now continued. Shooting the 50 at 40 yards. The BC numbers are astounding. The 10 yard skid mark in the dirt- not so much

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Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

Thar picture in a day would be 3+ million a year. One hell of a "retirement" fund.

Did you pay attention to your accounts last week? A million got you 30K on Thursday

Edit: look at 12/24 to 12/27

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the top on here. Having 7 figures saved if you're in your 50's isn't exactly a big deal.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the top on here. Having 7 figures saved if you're in your 50's isn't exactly a big deal.

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by goalie

I get it's your whole "schtick" but it looks kinda pathetic telling a bunch of middle aged guys who most likely all made more that that picture in one day last week in their retirement accounts (even if they just had simple index funds) that they'd need co-signers to buy a rifle or two.

I've been around a lot of wealthy people. None of them needed to tell me about it.

As you'd say: "hint"

So true..... Stick is old enough to retire, yet he still has to work.... lol.... and he calls us "broke dick"
I see projecting going on, but that's the normal operating procedure for a liberal, broke dick losers

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by goalie

I get it's your whole "schtick" but it looks kinda pathetic telling a bunch of middle aged guys who most likely all made more that that picture in one day last week in their retirement accounts (even if they just had simple index funds) that they'd need co-signers to buy a rifle or two.

I've been around a lot of wealthy people. None of them needed to tell me about it.

As you'd say: "hint"

So true..... Stick is old enough to retire, yet he still has to work.... lol.... and he calls us "broke dick"
I see projecting going on, but that's the normal operating procedure for a liberal, broke dick losers

That's a catchy phrase used frequently by those who really know what it means.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the top on here. Having 7 figures saved if you're in your 50's isn't exactly a big deal.

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

Average includes the over 50% of people that don't save and don't have a plan. 15% since the early 90's adds up. And a pension or two. And, again, I'm sure I'm nowhere near the top here on the campfire in regards to net worth, even with the house and lake place paid off and no vehicle loans. You may call it a big deal, but I couldn't retire early and live how I want off just a million.

Time in the market, not timing the market has worked for us. I won't ever be rich, but I won't ever need a co-signer to buy a rifle or scope either.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the top on here. Having 7 figures saved if you're in your 50's isn't exactly a big deal.

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

Average includes the over 50% of people that don't save and don't have a plan. 15% since the early 90's adds up. And a pension or two. And, again, I'm sure I'm nowhere near the top here on the campfire in regards to new worth, even with the house and lake place paid off and no vehicle loans. You may call it a big deal, but I couldn't retire early and live how I want off just a million.

Time in the market, not timing the market has worked for us. I won't ever be rich, but I won't ever need a co-signer to buy a rifle or scope either.

That's great. The fact is 90% of Americans will never have a savings in the "seven figures'.

Originally Posted by irfubar

So true..... Stick is old enough to retire, yet he still has to work.... lol.... and he calls us "broke dick"
I see projecting going on, but that's the normal operating procedure for a liberal, broke dick losers

Not to get philosophical in the optics forum, but he obviously isn't one that figured out how to be happy with what he has and not worry about what everyone else does or doesn't have. Hopefully his hearse will have a trailer hitch......

Originally Posted by JGRaider

That's great. The fact is 90% of Americans will never have a savings in the "seven figures'.

I really hope that's not true. I'm already planning on not getting all the SS taxes I've paid back, or having it all taxed at a high rate.

I hear you on the SS taxes. It's a losing proposition for those who've been contributing most of our lives.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

I hear you on the SS taxes. It's a losing proposition for those who've been contributing most of our lives.

It's depressing to look at your SS statement and the amount you've paid in, then have your CPA wife do the math on what it would be if you'd invested it over time and made just 5% annual.

DON'T do that.

Ok Goalie and Johnny, enough of this financial investment talk.... Stick thinks Super Sniper scopes are an investment... don't want to burst his bubble.. lol

Amen brother! I'll take your word on that one for sure!

Right on fubar!!! The narcotic infested gnome's brain can't decipher winning from losing apparently.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

I googled that. You're right, and that is really depressing. I didn't realize it was that bad.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

I googled that. You're right, and that is really depressing. I didn't realize it was that bad.

Brother Goalie,
You have to understand most people don't have two professional incomes to build a nest egg....

Poor Stick with his alimony payment and supporting his daughter and grandkids doesn't have any change left over to invest.....
Not to mention his shopping addiction.... lol

Originally Posted by irfubar

Ok Goalie and Johnny, enough of this financial investment talk.... Stick thinks Super Sniper scopes are an investment... don't want to burst his bubble.. lol

He buy's stuff. Good for him. I have no idea if he's actually rolling in money or making minimum payments on a credit card, and the reality is it doesn't matter to me at all, so I sincerely hope he's rolling in it, if only for his kid's and grandkid's sake.

It's just funny to see someone so obsessed with having "more" stuff than rando's he doesn't even know on the internet.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Brother Goalie,
You have to understand most people don't have two professional incomes to build a nest egg....

I told my wife she should write a book about marriage and finances. We had separate accounts and a joint account for bills from day one. Allotment for my allowance into my account, the rest into the joint. Same for my wife. No need to talk about, let alone argue about money unless you wanted to spend more than your allowance, then you made a plan and agreed on it.

It worked out great, and kept me from getting stupid and in debt back in the years that really matter. That, and the fact that she was adamant that we never have a vehicle loan have been huge.

But, yeah, two good jobs might not make you rich, but it doesn't suck.

Those Nightforce decals makes the SWFA's look $1.50 better!

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Those Nightforce decals makes the SWFA's look $1.50 better!

I think it's supposed to be intentionally ironic, like a punk band front man wearing a Taylor Swift t-shirt......

Some people really concerned about Stick’s income….
The optics forum never disappoints.

Funny part is the biggest braggarts and blowhards and bullscheit artists on the forum, bitching that Sticks a braggart, liar and blowhard.
TFF…. Especially now we’re bragging about our net worth. Goalie should quit before he makes burns feel inadequate.

Some people just too “invested “ to quit….

White Knight's to the rescue. Fat fugg makes a living outta calling everyone broke and acting like they can't afford a SS or a rifle.

And I'm pretty sure the midget's the only claiming to be rich. I sure ain't. I have friends that are, but I'm solidly in the middle class.

No "surprise!" that a simplistic objective Reupold TTT unhinges Brokedick Crying Kchunts and they are on the spot vindicating their Professional Victim Status,via copious Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

World Class Wares. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by JeffP

Some people really concerned about Stick’s income….
The optics forum never disappoints.

Stick lives and hunts in Alaska, pretty sure coin is just a bonus.

Really? Stick lives in Alaska?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

Originally Posted by The LiL Fish She-Man Leupold Haters Club

Brokestick Mountain

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the top on here. Having 7 figures saved if you're in your 50's isn't exactly a big deal.

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

Chump change.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver

I'm not doubting you , I'm just saying that's a pretty good account.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the top on here. Having 7 figures saved if you're in your 50's isn't exactly a big deal.

Having seven figures saved is a big deal no matter what your age is, actually.....

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/articles/average-retirement-savings-balance-by-age

AGE AVERAGE RETIREMENT ACCOUNT BALANCE
35-44 $131,950
45-54 $254,720
55-64 $408,420
65-74 $426,070

Chump change.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Quite the read....

I needed a drink after reading this shiit show.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Quite a run in the basement yesterday Lap’s. Still in Colorado?

Originally Posted by wagner

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Quite a run in the basement yesterday Lap’s. Still in Colorado?

No. I moved further West.

Originally Posted by Kenneth

My goals for 2024,

Make it through this thread.

LOL……I ‘ll keep trying.

New goal, 2025

Be nice.

Bad day.... dropped 3

That is a fine score!

Easter Sunday a few years back, wind left to right with 50 mph gust left to right, 1000 yards, 6Br.
Only one of 50 shooters to hit the egg.

Some are happy to hit a larger target / animal at a shorter distance.
Practice more.....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Easter Sunday a few years back, wind left to right with 50 mph gust left to right, 1000 yards, 6Br.
Only one of 50 shooters to hit the egg.

Niiiiiiice

As DLR said in a concert in Fresno in '78.....I got no time to fuuck around.....

So.... lets narrow down the best long range shooters on 24HR CF.

Those who do, and those who think they do.

With the meager 6mm bullet.

Indian or the Bow?

There are people who can read the wind and people who can't. That is the bottom line.

The rest is physics. Simple math....

A million bucks ain’t scheit in 2024, and the stock market is the last place I’d put all my marbles.
Being a male nurse riding your alpha female CPA wife’s apron strings is the closest you can get to being a female short of bleeding one week a month.
Sucking hind tit and celebrating your mediocrity seems to be a popular pastime in minnescrotum? LMAO…

Originally Posted by LiL Fish Just Postin a Few Fake Tall Target Test Pictures

Some do, some don't

Proceed please....

6mm Creedmoor has joined the chat....

Be free.....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Bad day.... dropped 3

Nice shooting. Not familiar with that format. Is that on a standard NRA LR face? Is it one 25 shot string? We usually shoot the more conventional 3x20 here in AZ, sometimes pair fire. Sling, bipod or rest?

Remembering the WW2 family members

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Bad day.... dropped 3

Nice shooting. Not familiar with that format. Is that on a standard NRA LR face? Is it one 25 shot string? We usually shoot the more conventional 3x20 here in AZ, sometimes pair fire. Sling, bipod or rest?

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Bipod no rear bag. Real world.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

So.... lets narrow down the best long range shooters on 24HR CF.

Those who do, and those who think they do.

It seems like you believe you are one of the best?

Have you won long range events as well as killed big game at long range in the field?

Just asking for info…

I see this thread is now went to Dick measuring..

p but it would have me ask a question what's more important money in the Bank or assets paid for to leave your children as in land cattle equipment that I'll have no debt on it...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

So.... lets narrow down the best long range shooters on 24HR CF.

Those who do, and those who think they do.

It seems like you believe you are one of the best?

Have you won long range events as well as killed big game at long range in the field?

Just asking for info…

You said that I didn't. I look forward to our debate.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

Also, you have two wind flags to look at to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Bipod no rear bag. Real world.

Standard NRA LR target with 1 MOA X ring?

Once again you are fixated on the word superior Ricky. Seems you have confidence issues.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Once again you are fixated on the word superior Ricky. Seems you have confidence issues.

You don’t know me very well

65 posts per day on this board? When do you have time to actually shoot? Just curious.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Once again... you are fixated on the word superior.

Ricky.... I sense insecurity in your replies.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

65 posts per day on this board? When do you have time to actually shoot? Just curious.

24 hrs in a day. I have sleep issues.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

65 posts per day on this board? When do you have time to actually shoot? Just curious.

Wow....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Once again... you are fixated on the word superior.

Ricky.... I sense insecurity in your replies.

You’re the one who stated “superior” as it applies to your shooting.

Just asking

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Once again... you are fixated on the word superior.

Ricky.... I sense insecurity in your replies.

You’re the one who stated “superior” as it applies to your shooting.

Just asking

You on crack boy?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Once again you are fixated on the word superior Ricky. Seems you have confidence issues.

Well to be fair "superior" was your adjective first.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Did I state that or are you implying I did Ricky?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Once again you are fixated on the word superior Ricky. Seems you have confidence issues.

Well to be fair "superior" was your adjective first.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Adjective or statement? which one?

Fact base data driven Burnsy

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Dafooq? are you retarded RC?

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

It ain't hard guys, stay on point please.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Dafooq? are you retarded RC?

You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills.

Superior shooters definitely have the best wind-reading skills

Proof of superior shooting due to great wind-reading skills is usually match wins or long range game taken in atmospheric conditions that are not optimal

So put up or shut up

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

One only follows the rules of the match Ricky. We all have to be team players.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Dafooq? are you retarded RC?

You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills.

Superior shooters definitely have the best wind-reading skills

Proof of superior shooting due to great wind-reading skills is usually match wins or long range game taken in atmospheric conditions that are not optimal

So put up or shut up

Is that not what I stated earlier Ricky?
One has math that is fixed, and wind reading that is an acquired skill.
I thought you knew how to shoot Ricky??

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

One only follows the rules of the match Ricky. We all have to be team players.

Wind flags and sighters are for beginners

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Dafooq? are you retarded RC?

You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills.

Superior shooters definitely have the best wind-reading skills

Proof of superior shooting due to great wind-reading skills is usually match wins or long range game taken in atmospheric conditions that are not optimal

So put up or shut up

"You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills."

Yes Ricky. What else is there?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better having a 4x4 at In N out Burnsy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Dafooq? are you retarded RC?

You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills.

Superior shooters definitely have the best wind-reading skills

Proof of superior shooting due to great wind-reading skills is usually match wins or long range game taken in atmospheric conditions that are not optimal

So put up or shut up

"You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills."

Yes Ricky. What else is there?

It’s great to think that, but when you state it on a world Internet forum, you may want to provide evidence

I’ll wait

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Not the same thing. Sorry you lack reading comprehension skills Ricky

The wind is always the enemy. The rest is match Ricky. I thought you would have known this??

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting on pics of long range match wins that involve no sighters, no wind flags, under field conditions

Waiting on pics of long range big or little game taken from field positions

Dafooq? are you retarded RC?

You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills.

Superior shooters definitely have the best wind-reading skills

Proof of superior shooting due to great wind-reading skills is usually match wins or long range game taken in atmospheric conditions that are not optimal

So put up or shut up

"You seem to think you are a superior shooter due to your wind-reading skills."

Yes Ricky. What else is there?

It’s great to think that, but when you state it on a world Internet forum, you may want to provide evidence

I’ll wait

Your welcome to head west for lessons you are in dire need of Ricky

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Not the same thing. Sorry you lack reading comprehension skills Ricky

The wind is always the enemy. The rest is match Ricky. I thought you would have known this??

So you’re a blowhard

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

Got it.

You get two practice shots to unleash your “superior wind-reading skills”?

😁

You are para phrasing... where did I post superior wind reading Ricky?

My bad

You are a superior shooter because of your wind-reading skills.

Same thing

😁

Not the same thing. Sorry you lack reading comprehension skills Ricky

The wind is always the enemy. The rest is match Ricky. I thought you would have known this??

So you’re a blowhard

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

I think we could be friends Ricky.

You and Burnsy have 29 pages of blowing hot air on this thread Ricky

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better having a 4x4 at In N out Burnsy

You seem like you're just wanting to strike out at somebody, anybody.

How is that back issue?

Need someone to talk to?

Ricky... how long have you been in the shooting game. The real game, not some BS shiit?

Ricky.... please enlighten me on your data and facts you use to connect on targets?

Then enlighten on the mystical and invisible wind and data used to hit said targets. Along with density altitude, humidity, wind near, mid and far?

Thanks

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better having a 4x4 at In N out Burnsy

You seem like you're just wanting to strike out at somebody, anybody.

How is that back issue?

Need someone to talk to?

You seem insecure...

How is that a hunting or long range shooting issue Burnsy?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better having a 4x4 at In N out Burnsy

You seem like you're just wanting to strike out at somebody, anybody.

How is that back issue?

Need someone to talk to?

I’ve had bad back issues. The worst.

I’ve had surgery and have overcome the issues with a strength program I’d be happy to share

Reading through this entire thread, I actual think I support Ricky and Burnsy. I think we could be friend....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better having a 4x4 at In N out Burnsy

You seem like you're just wanting to strike out at somebody, anybody.

How is that back issue?

Need someone to talk to?

I’ve had bad back issues. The worst.

I’ve had surgery and have overcome the issues with a strength program I’d be happy to share

I feel for you and anyone who has had to deal with this. I would not wish this on the worst people.
But... pain will not kill you. Weak people submit. Seem we are still standing. Endeavor to persevere...

Pussies tap.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better having a 4x4 at In N out Burnsy

You seem like you're just wanting to strike out at somebody, anybody.

How is that back issue?

Need someone to talk to?

I'm good. Thanks for your concern. You all having been striking out at posters since page one.

I'm merely debating with you about the wind. Which is always the enemy. Math is fixed which you seem to struggle with.

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Then enlighten on the mystical and invisible wind and data used to hit said targets. Along with density altitude, humidity, wind near, mid and far?

Thanks

Solid drop data at observed atmospheric conditions

Use station pressure in the kestrel, absolute, altitude set to zero

From there, the ballistic program can provide wind data that is a good baseline. But wind reading is an art from that point and isn’t a constant

Hope your health improves

Carlos Hathcock did not have those fancy computers to do his thinking for him. He and many others had a special skill set. Do you have a special skill set Ricky?

I do....

Ricky... riddle me this. If you did not use electronic devices, how would your shooting ability be ?

believe we have an old timey sock puppet pop up

Electronics fail, dope sheets get lost, all you have is your rifle and your brain, how would you do Ricky?

It's the whiskey talkin

Originally Posted by screaminweasil

It's the whiskey talkin

Not hardly son. Real life talking which most haven't a clue. Mr Weasel.

Originally Posted by screaminweasil

It's the whiskey talkin

What else do you have weasel?

Originally Posted by ldholton

believe we have an old timey sock puppet pop up

Are you a member of the Mensa Society?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

As I said you want to lash out at somebody or anybody.

Chronic pain is a bitch and the meds can be worse.

Hope things get better.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

As I said you want to lash out at somebody or anybody.

Chronic pain is a bitch and the meds can be worse.

Hope things get better.

Don't do drugs Burnsy. I didn't stand in the delicate line. Some say your drink too much. I don't judge and ain't none of my business.

I'd shoot and hunt with you and Ricky

Debating long range shooting with those who do and don't. Threads get side track quickly with assumptions.

Facts are facts. Velocity, DA , BC etc can be accounted for. The wind is always the enemy. The best shooters can read the wind. period.

It ain't hard. Even brother Stick has this figured out.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

As I said you want to lash out at somebody or anybody.

Chronic pain is a bitch and the meds can be worse.

Hope things get better.

My contributions to this thread are from experience Brother Burnsy. Has nothing to do with pain, chemicals etc.

Just flat out long range shooting experience. Which some lack here.

You are a goo dude Burnsy. So is Ricky. Someday we may shoot together and share our knowledge.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

As I said you want to lash out at somebody or anybody.

Chronic pain is a bitch and the meds can be worse.

Hope things get better.

You wouldn't like me if I lashed out Burnsy....

Yo Burnsy and Ricky....

Now some they do and some they don't
And some you just can't tell
And some they will and some they won't
With some it's just as well

Originally Posted by JGRaider

65 posts per day on this board? When do you have time to actually shoot? Just curious.

Are you a member of the Mensa?

Views....142,234

Kickstart it

Originally Posted by JGRaider

65 posts per day on this board? When do you have time to actually shoot? Just curious.

24 hrs a day, 30 to 45 min on here a day leaves 23 to shoot. Assuming you are not a math major either....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

As I said you want to lash out at somebody or anybody.

Chronic pain is a bitch and the meds can be worse.

Hope things get better.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

My contributions to this thread are from experience Brother Burnsy. Has nothing to do with pain, chemicals etc.

Just flat out long range shooting experience. Which some lack here.

You are a goo dude Burnsy. So is Ricky. Someday we may shoot together and share our knowledge.

Sounds fun.

Lots to learn.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I said no ill words towards you or Burnsy. You were condescending to me and took my verbiage out of context. Why did you do that Ricky? I did not do that to you....

Really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

As I said you want to lash out at somebody or anybody.

Chronic pain is a bitch and the meds can be worse.

Hope things get better.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

My contributions to this thread are from experience Brother Burnsy. Has nothing to do with pain, chemicals etc.

Just flat out long range shooting experience. Which some lack here.

You are a goo dude Burnsy. So is Ricky. Someday we may shoot together and share our knowledge.

Sounds fun.

Lots to learn.

Brother Burns, we learn until we die. Knowledge is power Amigo.....

I'll suggest folks have a look at Borden Accuracy chassis rifles. PRS guys might like these guns.

Might be somebody participating in this thread has a bit of experience with these rifles, perhaps other Borden Accuracy products. Hint.

You and Ricky have been berating several people on here since the start. I'm just questioning you and Ricky on your knowledge. I sense insecurity amigo.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I'll suggest folks have a look at Borden Accuracy chassis rifles. PRS guys might like these guns.

Might be somebody participating in this thread has a bit of experience with these rifles, perhaps other Borden Accuracy products. Hint.

Jim Borden builds outstanding rifles. Penn State Engineer. Math guy also.

Just think... Brother Stick started this thread with no aggression and look what it turned into from Burnsy and Ricky..... sad. Page 1

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/19027974/1/scopes

He wasn't brothering a sole....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You and Ricky have been berating several people on here since the start. I'm just questioning you and Ricky on your knowledge. I sense insecurity amigo.

Assuming you mean me?

The 24hr Campfire is a rough place. I never start the shit but I am very, very good at finishing.

If you have an example that contradicts that premise feel free to post it.

I'll be waiting for a bit.

Thanks.

Hi Burnsy.... please re read the the entire thread.

I know you struggle, but I am in your corner and Rickys. You both are value added like Stick.

No need to wait, I rarely sleep

I find the CF to be a delightful and delicate place. Full of great people and lots of knowledge sharing.

Burnsy.... why do you say it is a rough place? Have you been in "rough places before"?

I've never thought it as a rough place.

Brother Burns... what is your roughest experience in life?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

No need to wait, I rarely sleep

I knew that you didn't get much sleep before you ever posted it.

But I am still waiting for an example.

I have a wind story. F-Class nats. Me shooting FTR, wind was mostly from NW, shooting for score east to west. Weather was typical WI early October sunny with huge clouds traveling with the wind. Wind was gusty and confused mostly.

I thought I was ok at using flags and mirage but got lost in the wind. After the shoot was done and at the awards and dinner deal I asked one of the better shooters how he managed the wind as he shot a very good score.

His reply was the clouds. When those big clouds were over the range the wind would lose it's gusty switching and become somewhat steady. Then he'd shoot as fast as the guy in the pits could run his target. If cloud moved on, wind got confused again and time allowed he'd wait for another cloud to come over.

Another lesson learned by me.

Great advice.

3 kinds of wind.... near, midrange, and far. Become their friend and your scores will improve.

Mirage .....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

No need to wait, I rarely sleep

I knew that you didn't get much sleep before you ever posted it.

But I am still waiting for an example.

You evaded my question...

Sleep is overrated Burnsy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Sleep is overrated Burnsy

No, it's really not.

Just look at the memes, pictures, and words Brother Burns and Brother have posted in this thread.

Out Fuucking Standing!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Sleep is overrated Burnsy

No, it's really not.

So is eating Burnsy

Burnsy.... what is the most taxing situation you have ever been in your life?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Great advice.

3 kinds of wind.... near, midrange, and far. Become their friend and your scores will improve.

Mirage .....

What is this mirage you speak of? 🤔

The silent killer

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... what is the most taxing situation you have ever been in your life?

I had an Internet Rando on 24hr Campfire mad at me once.

It was very taxing.

I lived.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RC and Burnsy lack reading comprehension skills.

Maybe we should do some simple math or English comprehension skills to up your game for this discussion?

You might do better posting pictures.

You might do better holding your breath...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... what is the most taxing situation you have ever been in your life?

I had an Internet Rando on 24hr Campfire mad at me once.

It was very taxing.

I lived.

Atta boy....

Good thing I like you. Assume you mean Rambo not Rando??

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... what is the most taxing situation you have ever been in your life?

I had an Internet Rando on 24hr Campfire mad at me once.

It was very taxing.

I lived.

Atta boy....

Good thing I like you. Assume you mean Rambo not Rando??

No.

Rando.

Just a random internet poster hiding behind a sceen name while posting from their mothers basement.

RANDO.

Shoe fits?

Burnsy.... my training partner is here. Heading to the gym

Peace out to you and Ricky. We should get together sometime. I'll pay you and Ricky's way when schedules align.

Burnsy:

1. I don't hide.

2.I'm not Rambo. Although I do know Rambo.

3. I don't have a basement, but lots of square feet.

4. My mother passed 2 years ago.

5. Fruits and Vegetables my friend.

6. 1 gram of protein per per pounds weighed.

7. Excessive alcohol results a red complexion.

Burnsy.... last but not least, don't poke the bear. The bear always knows where you are.

Burnsy.... shall I buy you a ticket to come visit me?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... shall I buy you a ticket to come visit me?

Maybe he'll bring you a signed copy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/333148447253

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... my training partner is here. Heading to the gym

Peace out to you and Ricky. We should get together sometime. I'll pay you and Ricky's way when schedules align.

They say working on the core helps.

I don't speak for Rick but bluntly I don't travel for limited shooting experiences.

You're welcome to schedule a trip to Cody. Let me know and I will see if I can work it into my timeline.

If you were not hiding you would post under your own name, like Rick does and like I do.

Just sayin.

Originally Posted by screaminweasil

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... shall I buy you a ticket to come visit me?

Maybe he'll bring you a signed copy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/333148447253

Winning....that's F..in funny right there. You boys are a hoot. Peas in a pod for sure, it's destiny

Originally Posted by screaminweasil

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... shall I buy you a ticket to come visit me?

Maybe he'll bring you a signed copy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/333148447253

Winning....that's F..in funny right there. You boys are a hoot. Peas in a pod for sure, it's destiny

Quoting yourself is quite the loser move.

6-CM
Dude, you should start your own thread. You could banter back-N-forth with your own good self.

This way, you would know.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Bad day.... dropped 3

Nice shooting. Not familiar with that format. Is that on a standard NRA LR face? Is it one 25 shot string? We usually shoot the more conventional 3x20 here in AZ, sometimes pair fire. Sling, bipod or rest?

Local match in Palmdale. 2 sighters, 25 shots for score. 2 flags 300 and 600 yards.

All about the wind. Density altitude and velocity are fixed numbers. The wind
is always the enemy....

Wind readers are always the superior shooters.

I didn't see that match on the range calendar, but brother is that ever a cool facility. I wish I had ready access to a place like that.

Isn't bromance sweet.

[/quote]

Getting back to scope tracking.......

Are we supposed to know those people?

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Are we supposed to know those people?

Pretty sure the man is doing a tongue-in-cheek parody of burns.

Though the op and the older gentleman in the last picture seem familiar...perhaps I have seen the pic before.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Are we supposed to know those people?

Pretty sure the man is doing a tongue-in-cheek parody of burns.

Though the op and the older gentleman in the last picture seem familiar...perhaps I have seen the pic before.

are you saying burns and 6mm might be one in the same.....like a shape shifter......bob

"a tongue-in-cheek parody of burns".

You know...being seen with sort of known faces to make oneself seem relevant and kind of important.

Parody.

Originally Posted by KenMi

A lot of people might remember him from Mail Call…

I am sensing someone is butthurt

Originally Posted by BubbaG

I am sensing someone is butthurt

Oh, for fuck sakes...WHICH ONE?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

I am sensing someone is butthurt

Oh, for fuck sakes...WHICH ONE?

Take your pick

Originally Posted by JSTUART

"a tongue-in-cheek parody of burns".

You know...being seen with sort of known faces to make oneself seem relevant and kind of important.

Parody.

I got it js...bob

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

14349

Funny how these threads go.

- Fug Stick posts some [bleep] BS.
- People argue with him.
- Fug Stick posts random, tired old pictures and recycled, barely decipherable insults and chest beating about how rich he is even though he lives next door to the fish cannery in town.
- I ridicule him.
- People jump in to defend him.
- People line up on sides and argue with each other over *anything*.
- If the LULZ get too bad, Stick posts pics of his fambly.

This is entertainment!

Originally Posted by Big Stick

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Grouse off a bipod. I admire your ability to hold ~1.5" high at 10 yards to hit that bird in the head.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Tyrone

- Fug Stick posts random, tired old pictures and recycled, barely decipherable insults and chest beating about how rich he is even though he lives next door to the fish cannery in town.

He doesn't have world class acreage up there??? That's odd for someone who does talk about how rich he is a lot. I wish I was rich instead of middle class.......

And I sincerely hope you're joking about the cannery. That wouldn't smell great.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Big Stick

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Grouse off a bipod. I admire your ability to hold ~1.5" high at 10 yards to hit that bird in the head.

The poor bird was blinded by seeing that blue abomination and flew head first into a rock. HINT.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

World class?? Once upon a time, 40 years ago, in original configuration....

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Great optics on those rifles.

"World class" is for rich people, but my "middle class" mail just got here.

Should be fun to test it out on the "middle class" .22

😉

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

- Fug Stick posts random, tired old pictures and recycled, barely decipherable insults and chest beating about how rich he is even though he lives next door to the fish cannery in town.

He doesn't have world class acreage up there??? That's odd for someone who does talk about how rich he is a lotI wish I was rich instead of middle class.......

And I sincerely hope you're joking about the cannery. That wouldn't smell great.

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

For a guy who doesn't seem to be bothered with Stick literally saying he's rich, saying he makes "doctor money" (his words) and telling others that they would need a co-signer to buy a used, wet rifle and a SS, you seem to be really concerned with me responding. I especially like how, while building up your white knight outrage, you purposefully ignore my actual statement about being middle class though.

Makes you wonder why? Oh, and, GFY

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

- Fug Stick posts random, tired old pictures and recycled, barely decipherable insults and chest beating about how rich he is even though he lives next door to the fish cannery in town.

He doesn't have world class acreage up there??? That's odd for someone who does talk about how rich he is a lotI wish I was rich instead of middle class.......

And I sincerely hope you're joking about the cannery. That wouldn't smell great.

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

Is there something wrong with a humorless person thinking highly of himself, boasting and taking himself and the internet very seriously?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

For a guy who doesn't seem to be bothered with Stick literally saying he's rich, saying he makes "doctor money" (his words) and telling others that they would need a co-signer to buy a used, wet rifle and a SS, you seem to be really concerned with me responding. I especially like how, while building up your white knight outrage, you purposefully ignore my actual statement about being middle class though.

Makes you wonder why? Oh, and, GFY

The LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club is desperate to slide the thread from the faked Tall Target Test and the offer for an independant 3rd party to test the MK-5.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Funny how these threads go.

- Fug Stick posts some [bleep] BS.
- People argue with him.
- Fug Stick posts random, tired old pictures and recycled, barely decipherable insults and chest beating about how rich he is even though he lives next door to the fish cannery in town.
- I ridicule him.
- People jump in to defend him.
- People line up on sides and argue with each other over *anything*.
- If the LULZ get too bad, Stick posts pics of his fambly.

This is entertainment!

We are at the highlighted part.

I’d say the “fake TTT” went exactly as planned.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

For a guy who doesn't seem to be bothered with Stick literally saying he's rich, saying he makes "doctor money" (his words) and telling others that they would need a co-signer to buy a used, wet rifle and a SS, you seem to be really concerned with me responding. I especially like how, while building up your white knight outrage, you purposefully ignore my actual statement about being middle class though.

Makes you wonder why? Oh, and, GFY

Because his rifle/hunting/shooting/photography contributions to this site outweigh the perceived (by some) shortcomings of his presentation?
The funny part is there are still WAY more people on here that think Burns is a bigger douchebag, probably because his contributions only serve to feed his ego, much like yours except without the actual hunting accomplishments and shooting skills that John at least has.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

For a guy who doesn't seem to be bothered with Stick literally saying he's rich, saying he makes "doctor money" (his words) and telling others that they would need a co-signer to buy a used, wet rifle and a SS, you seem to be really concerned with me responding. I especially like how, while building up your white knight outrage, you purposefully ignore my actual statement about being middle class though.

Makes you wonder why? Oh, and, GFY

Because his rifle/hunting/shooting/photography contributions to this site outweigh the perceived (by some) shortcomings of his presentation?
The funny part is there are still WAY more people on here that think Burns is a bigger douchebag, probably because his contributions only serve to feed his ego, much like yours except without the actual hunting accomplishments and shooting skills that John at least has.

Wow, literally white knighting "for the good of the community."

GFY (after you get off stick's knob)

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

For a guy who doesn't seem to be bothered with Stick literally saying he's rich, saying he makes "doctor money" (his words) and telling others that they would need a co-signer to buy a used, wet rifle and a SS, you seem to be really concerned with me responding. I especially like how, while building up your white knight outrage, you purposefully ignore my actual statement about being middle class though.

Makes you wonder why? Oh, and, GFY

The LiL Fish Ladies Fan Club is desperate to slide the thread from the faked Tall Target Test and the offer for an independant 3rd party to test the MK-5.

See if Form will send you his Mk 5 POS too, get a 2 for one deal for your independent 3rd party test.

Guess everyone is lying…..
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

For a guy who doesn't seem to be bothered with Stick literally saying he's rich, saying he makes "doctor money" (his words) and telling others that they would need a co-signer to buy a used, wet rifle and a SS, you seem to be really concerned with me responding. I especially like how, while building up your white knight outrage, you purposefully ignore my actual statement about being middle class though.

Makes you wonder why? Oh, and, GFY

Because his rifle/hunting/shooting/photography contributions to this site outweigh the perceived (by some) shortcomings of his presentation?
The funny part is there are still WAY more people on here that think Burns is a bigger douchebag, probably because his contributions only serve to feed his ego, much like yours except without the actual hunting accomplishments and shooting skills that John at least has.

Wow, literally white knighting "for the good of the community."

GFY (after you get off stick's knob)

Post a bank statement, it’s about the only thing you haven’t done on here.
Or your neighbors if you prefer…

What was the point of this thread again?

Originally Posted by BubbaG

What was the point of this thread again?

LULZ

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by BubbaG

What was the point of this thread again?

LULZ

I had to google that

Originally Posted by BubbaG

What was the point of this thread again?

50/50 chance it was a valid scope review or bait to get all the monkeys dancing.
Worked either way.

Afternoon gents.

Hey Brother LOL

Originally Posted by BubbaG

What was the point of this thread again?

Unbiased, honest TTT

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by BubbaG

What was the point of this thread again?

50/50 chance it was a valid scope review or bait to get all the monkeys dancing.
Worked either way.

I must have missed the reviews but I skipped 30 or 40 pages.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Afternoon gents.

Howdy Lap, you good today? Hope so, hang in there.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Afternoon gents.

Burns had a good week, they finally got an order for a rifle so he can quit pushing a mop for at least a day.
Go easy on him.

Originally Posted by jackwagon

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

Originally Posted by jackwagon

The funny part is there are still WAY more people on here that think Burns is a bigger douchebag, probably because his contributions only serve to feed his ego, much like yours

Originally Posted by jackwagon

Post a bank statement, it’s about the only thing you haven’t done on here.
Or your neighbors if you prefer…

Originally Posted by jackwagon

Burns had a good week, they finally got an order for a rifle so he can quit pushing a mop for at least a day.
Go easy on him.

jackwagon musta had sand firmly packed in his vagina by something today to be flailing around like this. Quite a tantrum!

Still no taker on the sincere offer to evaluate the optic and post the results here, whether good or bad

🤷🏿‍♂️

Originally Posted by gunzo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Afternoon gents.

Howdy Lap, you good today? Hope so, hang in there.

All good. Co workers coming over for eats and drinks. Be on later.

Yo Burnsy and Ricky ...... get ready

Looking forward to it.

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

Blood in the water or just another round of midgets bluffing?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

Oh...that is a good line. I am stealing that!

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

That must be figured by his weight in lbs multiplied by waist size

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by jackwagon

You literally made a post bragging about your paid off homes, 7 figure retirement fund and your wife’s profession a few pages back.
I sincerely hope you never run out of you, or you’ll never have anything to post about again.

Originally Posted by jackwagon

The funny part is there are still WAY more people on here that think Burns is a bigger douchebag, probably because his contributions only serve to feed his ego, much like yours

Originally Posted by jackwagon

Post a bank statement, it’s about the only thing you haven’t done on here.
Or your neighbors if you prefer…

Originally Posted by jackwagon

Burns had a good week, they finally got an order for a rifle so he can quit pushing a mop for at least a day.
Go easy on him.

jackwagon musta had sand firmly packed in his vagina by something today to be flailing around like this. Quite a tantrum!

Still no taker on the sincere offer to evaluate the optic and post the results here, whether good or bad

🤷🏿‍♂️

No vagina to pack, been around enough loud mouth, blow hards from miniscrotum to not suffer their B.S.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

“My” booth?! Jeff must be making big $$ on the oilfield to keep indulging his hobbies. Good for him and GREAT for you.

^^^won’t be there^^^

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

The funny part is you think that’s cool? Businesses are fueled by customers and Burns is purposefully driving away a huge customer base by his on line fugktard posting for no other reason than to indulge his ego.
LMAO…

Maybe Jenny Craig will stop by 14349.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

The funny part is you think that’s cool? Businesses are fueled by customers and Burns is purposefully driving away a huge customer base by his on line fugktard posting for no other reason than to indulge his ego.
LMAO…

If you think 15 morons on the 24hr Campfire is a “huge customer base”, I’m laughing my ass off even more…

15 rifles would double their annual production . Aww ,look at Brothers Burns and Muglia

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

^^^won’t be there^^^

You’re right. We’re over booked for 2024 already and it’s the last year before my kids are off to university and med school respectively so hoping to spend all my free time enjoying life with them and the wife. YMMV.
Have fun with the trophy’s.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

The funny part is you think that’s cool? Businesses are fueled by customers and Burns is purposefully driving away a huge customer base by his on line fugktard posting for no other reason than to indulge his ego.
LMAO…

If you think 15 morons on the 24hr Campfire is a “huge customer base”, I’m laughing my ass off even more…

72,300 members of this forum. Keep kidding yourself.
How much business did SWFA pick up from just the info put out on this site? 20% of all their sales? 40%?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You’re right. We’re over booked for 2024 already and it’s the last year before my kids are off to university and med school respectively so hoping to spend all my free time enjoying life with them and the wife. YMMV.
Have fun with the trophy’s.

Game, set, and match.

And neither even have an inkling.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Maybe Jenny Craig will stop by 14349.

She wouldn’t waste her time.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You’re right. We’re over booked for 2024 already and it’s the last year before my kids are off to university and med school respectively so hoping to spend all my free time enjoying life with them and the wife. YMMV.
Have fun with the trophy’s.

Game, set, and match.

And neither even have an inkling.

Broken down to simplistic thought, the only reason a human exists is to procreate, which is lost on spinsters and life long bachelors who have nothing but trophy cases to keep them company.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

“My” booth?! Jeff must be making big $$ on the oilfield to keep indulging his hobbies. Good for him and GREAT for you.

State of Wyoming is also shown as 14349. Wonder if the State bought the space and sharing with Wyo Arms.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by jackmountain

The funny part is you think that’s cool? Businesses are fueled by customers and Burns is purposefully driving away a huge customer base by his on line fugktard posting for no other reason than to indulge his ego.
LMAO…

I have to admit it's fun telling retards like you to fuck off. You're the kind of customer nobody wants and I get to say it.

The players get a laugh and we all smile a lot at SHOT.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by jackmountain

The funny part is you think that’s cool? Businesses are fueled by customers and Burns is purposefully driving away a huge customer base by his on line fugktard posting for no other reason than to indulge his ego.
LMAO…

I have to admit it's fun telling retards like you to fuck off. You're the kind of customer nobody wants and I get to say it.

The players get a laugh and we all smile a lot at SHOT.

There’s lots of smiles I’m sure, but they’re laughing at you, not with you. You’re not a player, you’re the punchline and too stupid to realize it.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

“My” booth?! Jeff must be making big $$ on the oilfield to keep indulging his hobbies. Good for him and GREAT for you.

State of Wyoming is also shown as 14349. Wonder if the State bought the space and sharing with Wyo Arms.

The taxpayers of Wyoming should demand their money back if that’s true.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Blood in the water or just another round of midgets bluffing?

Brother Sam... as you know, I'm not in the bluffing game

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Blood in the water or just another round of midgets bluffing?

Brother Sam... as you know, I'm not in the bluffing game

I’m guessing you’re not in the bleeding game either.
At least not the bleeding one week a month game a few of the “players” here are in.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD at SHOT SHOW

I gotta say, I don’t care how rich, successful, or self-important some of you azz_holes think youare, your boots will never grace my doorstep.

If I have to name you by name you’re even dumber than I’m giving you credit for.

Originally Posted by Akbob5

I gotta say, I don’t care how rich, successful, or self- important some of you [bleep] are, your boots will never grace my doorstep.

If I have to name you by name you’re even dumber than I’m giving you credit for.

No kidding. Some of these guys are tiresome.

Thanks for your wise words, hope it does some good.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Broken down to simplistic thought, the only reason a human exists is to procreate, which is lost on spinsters and life long bachelors who have nothing but trophy cases to keep them company.

It’s a lot more difficult to fill 2 trophy cases over 25 years with Big Wins, than to break a rubber in 25 seconds

Way to be!

😆🤣😝😝

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Broken down to simplistic thought, the only reason a human exists is to procreate, which is lost on spinsters and life long bachelors who have nothing but trophy cases to keep them company.

It’s a lot more difficult to fill 2 trophy cases over 25 years with Big Wins, than to break a rubber in 25 seconds

Way to be!

😆🤣😝😝

If that is what you think parenting is then it is a good thing you cannot breed.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Akbob5

I gotta say, I don’t care how rich, successful, or self- important some of you [bleep] are, your boots will never grace my doorstep.

If I have to name you by name you’re even dumber than I’m giving you credit for.

No kidding. Some of these guys are tiresome.

Thanks for your wise words, hope it does some good.

First MF out of the blocks, what do you know.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Broken down to simplistic thought, the only reason a human exists is to procreate, which is lost on spinsters and life long bachelors who have nothing but trophy cases to keep them company.

It’s a lot more difficult to fill 2 trophy cases over 25 years with Big Wins, than to break a rubber in 25 seconds

Way to be!

😆🤣😝😝

If that is what you think parenting is then it is a good thing you cannot breed.

He’s talking about procreating, not parenting

Even a dumb fuqk like you can pull it off

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

If that is what you think parenting is then it is a good thing you cannot breed.

He’s talking about procreating, not parenting

Even a dumb fuqk like you can pull it off

You aren't doing yourself any favours.

And apparently it is you that doesn't understand the difference...I am happily married and have a daughter who is the very person I prayed she would be.
You should go cuddle burns.

Originally Posted by Akbob5

I gotta say, I don’t care how rich, successful, or self- important some of you [bleep] are, your boots will never grace my doorstep.

If I have to name you by name you’re even dumber than I’m giving you credit for.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

No kidding. Some of these guys are tiresome.

Thanks for your wise words, hope it does some good.

Originally Posted by Akbob5

First MF out of the blocks, what do you know.

Having a good Gif game is a bit like playing pool. If you have the shots layed out things just go together.

What are the odds I have the next one already planned?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Having a good Gif game is a bit like playing pool. If you have the shots layed out things just go together.

What are the odds I have the next one already planned?

Of course you do...it is all you have. No family, no wife, no health, no business, no future...and not a skerrick of an idea just how sad you appear to the rest of us.

You should probably give rick a cuddle.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

If that is what you think parenting is then it is a good thing you cannot breed.

He’s talking about procreating, not parenting

Even a dumb fuqk like you can pull it off

You aren't doing yourself any favours.

And apparently it is you that doesn't understand the difference...I am happily married and have a daughter who is the very person I prayed she would be.
You should go cuddle burns.

I’m glad to hear it.

Here’s how difficult it is to procreate…

Pretty sure that’s jackwagon

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

If that is what you think parenting is then it is a good thing you cannot breed.

He’s talking about procreating, not parenting

Even a dumb fuqk like you can pull it off

You aren't doing yourself any favours.

And apparently it is you that doesn't understand the difference...I am happily married and have a daughter who is the very person I prayed she would be.
You should go cuddle burns.

I’m glad to hear it.

Here’s how difficult it is to procreate…

Pretty sure that’s jackwagon

No...jack is a successful parent.

And judging by his kids...very successful.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Having a good Gif game is a bit like playing pool. If you have the shots layed out things just go together.

What are the odds I have the next one already planned?

Of course you do...it is all you have. No family, no wife, no health, no business, no future...and not a skerrick of an idea just how sad you appear to the rest of us.

You should probably give rick a cuddle.

Have you accomplished anything besides procreating?

It might be a good time to post some info since your entire focus is to denigrate those who are accomplished

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Having a good Gif game is a bit like playing pool. If you have the shots layed out things just go together.

What are the odds I have the next one already planned?

Of course you do...it is all you have. No family, no wife, no health, no business, no future...and not a skerrick of an idea just how sad you appear to the rest of us.

You should probably give rick a cuddle.

LOL.

You are an unarmed slave living by her Masters by and leave. And you raised your daughter to be a slave, never knowing freedom.

Originally Posted by JSlave groveling to her Masters in Canberra

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Having a good Gif game is a bit like playing pool. If you have the shots layed out things just go together.

What are the odds I have the next one already planned?

Of course you do...it is all you have. No family, no wife, no health, no business, no future...and not a skerrick of an idea just how sad you appear to the rest of us.

You should probably give rick a cuddle.

Have you accomplished anything besides procreating?

It might be a good time to post some info since your entire focus is to denigrate those who are accomplished

That's laughable "who are accomplished". Coming from a guy who bought an operational business his father and family built <pizza joint>, never worked a job or had a career other than the pizza joint, shot some animals, shot some scores that awarded him a ribbon. End of accomplishments.

Blowhard.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

You are an unarmed slave living by her Masters by and leave. And you raised your daughter to be a slave, never knowing freedom.

Originally Posted by JSlave groveling to her Masters in Canberra

You really don't have any inkling of just how sad you appear to the rest of us...do you.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Have you accomplished anything besides procreating?

It might be a good time to post some info since your entire focus is to denigrate those who are accomplished

What exactly do you think you are a success at. You are spending your time trying to convince total strangers you are a raging success...just like burns does.

And neither of you can breed...which is indeed a good thing.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That's laughable "who are accomplished". Coming from a guy who bought an operational business his father and family built <pizza joint>, never worked a job or had a career other than the pizza joint, shot some animals, shot some scores that awarded him a ribbon. End of accomplishments.

Blowhard.

Feel free to tell the class about the buisness you bought and have run successfully for decades.

You won't because you can't.

But that ENVY burns deep.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Hey look, two scumbag retards. Ask that dumb sumb itch if he's going to mandate masks and shutdowns again the next time you blow him, gizard

How many chins does it take to be a fat f uck? Apparently three lol lol lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

You are an unarmed slave living by her Masters by and leave. And you raised your daughter to be a slave, never knowing freedom.

Originally Posted by JSlave groveling to her Masters in Canberra

Originally Posted by JSTUART

You really don't have any inkling of just how sad you appear to the rest of us...do you.

I understand exactly how I appear to you and the ENVY that burns in your SLAVE soul.

It keeps me warm.

May those chains rest lightly on you and your family, SLAVE.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That's laughable "who are accomplished". Coming from a guy who bought an operational business his father and family built <pizza joint>, never worked a job or had a career other than the pizza joint, shot some animals, shot some scores that awarded him a ribbon. End of accomplishments.

Blowhard.

Feel free to tell the class about the buisness you bought and have run successfully for decades.

You won't because you can't.

But that ENVY burns deep.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

Pathetic...and without a family for support as he dies.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

You are an unarmed slave living by her Masters by and leave. And you raised your daughter to be a slave, never knowing freedom.

Originally Posted by JSlave groveling to her Masters in Canberra

Originally Posted by JSTUART

You really don't have any inkling of just how sad you appear to the rest of us...do you.

I understand exactly how I appear to you and the ENVY that burns in your SLAVE soul.

It keeps me warm.

May those chains rest lightly on you and your family, SLAVE.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

You really are a stupid specimen aren't you.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That's laughable "who are accomplished". Coming from a guy who bought an operational business his father and family built <pizza joint>, never worked a job or had a career other than the pizza joint, shot some animals, shot some scores that awarded him a ribbon. End of accomplishments.

Blowhard.

Feel free to tell the class about the buisness you bought and have run successfully for decades.

You won't because you can't.

But that ENVY burns deep.

Originally Posted by Aristotle

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it. Aristotle defined envy as pain at the sight of another's good fortune, stirred by "those who have what we ought to have".

I hold no ENVY. But you do. Of me. And that's understandable. I enjoy that.

Furthermore, your transparent objection to Mr Sticks result of the TTT with that Leupold scope is to gaslight people because you offer Leupold Optics Packages to be included with the Wyoming Arms rifles. You can not allow the brand to be potentially damaged. I get that.

Recall how defensive you were over the AR15 bumpstock debate. You were scared that would impact your AR based rifle platform business model.

I ENVY no one.

It would be impossible to ENVY an Internet Rando.

Nobody knows who they are or what they have done.

Those of us with a record of acomplishment are the focus of ENVY.

Internet Randos are just Random nobodys, like you.

I'm comfortable with my station in life. Pleased and fulfilled. And that's a good place to be.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It would be impossible to ENVY an Internet Rando.

Nobody knows who they are or what they have done.

Those of us with a record of acomplishment are the focus of ENVY.

Internet Randos are just Random nobodys, like you.

Bwahaha...!

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Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It would be impossible to ENVY an Internet Rando.

Nobody knows who they are or what they have done.

Those of us with a record of acomplishment are the focus of ENVY.

Internet Randos are just Random nobodys, like you.

Bwahaha...!

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Note the guy with the cowboy hat. He is a politician. He is reaching for your wallet Mr Burns. Mr Burns, did you surprise the politician with an ass cheek squeeze?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It would be impossible to ENVY an Internet Rando.

Nobody knows who they are or what they have done.

Those of us with a record of acomplishment are the focus of ENVY.

Internet Randos are just Random nobodys, like you.

Originally Posted by Mr_2Dogsfucking

You’re right. I suck

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Note the guy with the cowboy hat. He is a politician. He is reaching for your wallet Mr Burns. Mr Burns, did you surprise the politician with an ass cheek squeeze?

Well, to be fair...it is not like burns is inclined to squeezing the arse cheek of a real live women...there is a reason these clowns are bachelors.

How many here are involved enough in the gun business to have/work at a booth at SHOT? Hell of a lot of internet armchair experts but I don't see 52,000 people lining up at armchairs or to gawk at rigged "world class" target tests

Well fellas, MY FAMILY and I went to Griffith this morning so if I want the lawn mown before the rain I had better get a wriggle on.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Note the guy with the cowboy hat. He is a politician. He is reaching for your wallet Mr Burns. Mr Burns, did you surprise the politician with an ass cheek squeeze?

LOL.

Mark wants my support which is worth much more than money.

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Some call us King Makers.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Note the guy with the cowboy hat. He is a politician. He is reaching for your wallet Mr Burns. Mr Burns, did you surprise the politician with an ass cheek squeeze?

LOL.

Mark wants my support which is worth much more than money.

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Some call us King Makers.

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Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

Originally Posted by 2Dogsfucking

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

2dogsfucqking bout to get his nose rubbed in it just like when he sarcastically asked for my shooting accomplishments

Funnier than FUCQK

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

It's like I am seven step ahead and you're just dancing to my tune. How does it feel to be my pet bitch?

Wyoming Governors need Wyomong Arms

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The Governor’s carbine will be based on the WY-15 with custom engraving including the Great Seal of Wyoming and his signature. With the billet upper and lower receivers anodized in Type III Matte Sand and the black furniture, not only will the finished firearm have a striking appearance but will also be suitable for use in the harsh environment of the Wyoming outdoors. As a lifelong hunter and shooter, Governor Mead insisted that this firearm be much more than just a simple show piece.

At the heart of the WY-15 is the Patent Pending WYO LOK barrel and titanium barrel nut. The WYO LOK system ensures the WY-15’s phenomenal accuracy and reliability. For the primary sighting system, Governor Mead choose a custom Leupold VX-III 4.5-14 with the JB windage reticle and custom DCT (Drop Compensating Turret). Bruce Pettet, President and CEO of Leupold & Stevens was pleased and stated; “On behalf of our 650 American employees, we would like to thank Wyoming Arms and Governor Mead for choosing Leupold.”

And I even got a Leupold in there. Who saw that coming?

Governor Mark Gordon at Wyoming Arms buying one of his ARs

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 2Dogsfucking

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

2dogsfucqking bout to get his nose rubbed in it just like when he sarcastically asked for my shooting accomplishments

Funnier than FUCQK

That is a threatening statement.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

It's like I am seven step ahead and you're just dancing to my tune. How does it feel to be my pet bitch?

Wyoming Governors need Wyomong Arms

Quote

The Governor’s carbine will be based on the WY-15 with custom engraving including the Great Seal of Wyoming and his signature. With the billet upper and lower receivers anodized in Type III Matte Sand and the black furniture, not only will the finished firearm have a striking appearance but will also be suitable for use in the harsh environment of the Wyoming outdoors. As a lifelong hunter and shooter, Governor Mead insisted that this firearm be much more than just a simple show piece.

At the heart of the WY-15 is the Patent Pending WYO LOK barrel and titanium barrel nut. The WYO LOK system ensures the WY-15’s phenomenal accuracy and reliability. For the primary sighting system, Governor Mead choose a custom Leupold VX-III 4.5-14 with the JB windage reticle and custom DCT (Drop Compensating Turret). Bruce Pettet, President and CEO of Leupold & Stevens was pleased and stated; “On behalf of our 650 American employees, we would like to thank Wyoming Arms and Governor Mead for choosing Leupold.”

And I even got a Leupold in there. Who saw that coming?

Governor Mark Gordon at Wyoming Arms buying one of his ARs

Have a look at all them well drilling parts.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 2Dogsfucking

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

2dogsfucqking bout to get his nose rubbed in it just like when he sarcastically asked for my shooting accomplishments

Funnier than FUCQK

Guess you saw that coming from 100 miles down the track.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 2Dogsfucking

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

2dogsfucqking bout to get his nose rubbed in it just like when he sarcastically asked for my shooting accomplishments

Funnier than FUCQK

Guess you saw that coming from 100 miles down the track.

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You’d have to be as dumb as 2dogsfucqking not to

😂😂😂😂

I'll leave you two ladies alone now. Enjoy your time together.

XOXOXOXOXO

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 2Dogsfucking

Prove it. Post pictures and images of documentation. Or is that comment gaslighting?

Every politician wants my support. They gaslight too.

2dogsfucqking bout to get his nose rubbed in it just like when he sarcastically asked for my shooting accomplishments

Funnier than FUCQK

Guess you saw that coming from 100 miles down the track.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You’d have to be as dumb as 2dogsfucqking not to

😂😂😂😂

A few here on 24 hr Campfire don't read sign very well. But most do just fine.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Some call us King Makers.

John…..That’s a hell of a great claim to fame and one that I’d like to see as mandatory for all governors! 👍🏼

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Some call us King Makers.

John…..That’s a hell of a great claim to fame and one that I’d like to see as mandatory for all governors! 👍🏼

Wyoming is a different kind of State.

Very low population and really right wing.

I agree with you that the USA/world would be a better place if all State Governors had to be vocal fans and users of the AR to be elected.

I’m fine with reducing each state’s population to be comparable based on square miles with Wyoming. I’m also fine with each State having a conservative, God-fearing governor that owns a Wyoming Arms AR….at least until the new conservative states begin manufacturing their own. I’m already on the California Assault Rifle Full-Auto & Suppressor waiting list….

These are my wishes for 2024….but I’m an easy going guy who doesn’t ask much.

Happy New Year.

Same tired pics you have trotted past us before when you attempt to bask in someone else's fame, the only thing different from now is that in this pic you only have two chins.

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Happy New Year to ya Stumpy!

Hope its a good one....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Anyone going to Las Vegas SHOT show near end of this month?

14349

I will be there.

@ booth 14349. Wyoming Arms.

Memorizing my booth number is a bit creepy but I do live rent free in your head.

Since it’s in Vegas, there’s a Vegas Line and an over/under to bet on

Number of 24hr JB Haters to Visit Booth 14349

Vegas Number is 1

I’ll take the under

😂😂😂

The funny part is you think that’s cool? Businesses are fueled by customers and Burns is purposefully driving away a huge customer base by his on line fugktard posting for no other reason than to indulge his ego.
LMAO…

If you think 15 morons on the 24hr Campfire is a “huge customer base”, I’m laughing my ass off even more…

The problem with that attitude is you burn bridges. Then, at some point in the future, you might need some credibility with those people. Like, say, when you try to convince them that the nra is doing good work.

World Class. Hint.

It is funnier than fhuqk,how often The Do Nothing Gang thinks about me. Pardon the power of my Words and The Splendid Pixels being FAR too much to resist,as you gals "live" vicariously. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Instead of all the posing and bluster by some, I would be more interested in seeing the long range fellows loading setups and systems.

I am always interested in learning or viewing something new or different relating to that endeavour, and God knows you lot are more likely to be exposed to gear and practices I have not seen.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Instead of all the posing and bluster by some, I would be more interested in seeing the long range fellows loading setups and systems.

I am always interested in learning or viewing something new or different relating to that endeavour, and God knows you lot are more likely to be exposed to gear and practices I have not seen.

Great idea.

Stick, you have pictures of the setup you used to shoot the TTT with? Prone or bench? You shooting those 0.2's consistently off a BR style front rest, bipod, or field expedient rest? Rear bag?

Brother Burns,

If you ever have a kid, name ‘em Powder.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Instead of all the posing and bluster by some, I would be more interested in seeing the long range fellows loading setups and systems.

I am always interested in learning or viewing something new or different relating to that endeavour, and God knows you lot are more likely to be exposed to gear and practices I have not seen.

From Precision Rifleman magazine, here's the results and equipment list from the Washington State 600 yard Championship:
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Also from Precision Rifleman magazine, the top first page results and equipment list from last years NBRSA Score Nationals:
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In both venues, the absolute mechanical reliability of the scopes is paramount to success. In fact, most competitors will sell a gun but never sell a mechanically reliable scope. You can do the math on the percentage of different scope brands used.

Good shootin'

-Al

Looks like Kostanich is still smithing half the guns in the NW, too.

Reminds me, he just chambered a .22GT for me that I haven’t had a chance to fire.

Morning all. Burnsy and Ricky too

I sucked here.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Note the guy with the cowboy hat. He is a politician. He is reaching for your wallet Mr Burns. Mr Burns, did you surprise the politician with an ass cheek squeeze?

LOL.

Mark wants my support which is worth much more than money.

Do you want to guess how many Governors of Wyoming have been elected in the past 15 years who did not own a Wyoming Arms AR that they paid full price for?

Zero would be the answer.

Some call us King Makers.

Burnsy..... what barrels does WA use? Accuracy?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Respect for the 'T's.

000669

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Stick have you tried the Trijicon out yet?

Love the 10-20 year old pics and video extrapolations by all sides. Really brings the room together

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

From Precision Rifleman magazine, here's the results and equipment list from the Washington State 600 yard Championship:
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Also from Precision Rifleman magazine, the top first page results and equipment list from last years NBRSA Score Nationals:
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In both venues, the absolute mechanical reliability of the scopes is paramount to success. In fact, most competitors will sell a gun but never sell a mechanically reliable scope. You can do the math on the percentage of different scope brands used.

Good shootin'

-Al

Muh ha ha!!! Those fools! They are opening themselves up to being Absolutely DOMINATED by Fug Stick shooting his SFWA's off his precision backpack!!! They should know better than to use such crappy optics and BRs!

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by Hogwild7

Stick have you tried the Trijicon out yet?

As mentioned prior:

The weather is doing no favors,as we're riding out a Bomb Cyclone at work and I'm hoping to catch a dose of favorable atmospherics at home. Need to beat on the Trijicon and a coupla NightFarces(NXS 2.5-10x MIL-R and NX8 2.5-20x MIL-XT),along with the others cited. Awaiting more Thermal too. Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

And then, one day, what had worked for years suddenly stopped working, and the rest is history.......

It isn't that he found something better that's hilarious to me, it's that he had the same over-the-top confidence for years regarding Leupold scopes. He killed tons of game with them. He told anyone here NOT using Leupold
6x scopes that they were idiots. Now he acts like anyone who IS using one is a complete idiot.

FWIW, I don't own any Leupold scopes right now, but it's still hilarious. Because he was either full of it then, when he was dialing "tens of thousands" of come-up solutions into "Leupi erectors" with "less issue", or he's full of it now when he says they simply cannot perform at even minimum standards.

I wonder which one it is????

Vid in the link is from 15 years ago. Likely Mr Sticks 24HCF posts Mr Burns is c/p are from similar time period.

Perhaps Leupold scope quality was robust back then.

It appears that Leupold scope quality control and component precision has been impacted by Leupold decision to use components that are inferior for more recent builds.

Profit matters.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Vid in the link is from 15 years ago. Likely Mr Sticks 24HCF posts Mr Burns is c/p are from similar time period.

Perhaps Leupold scope quality was robust back then.

It appears that Leupold scope quality control and component precision has been impacted by Leupold decision to use components that are inferior for more recent builds.

Profit matters.

So, you're saying old Leupold scopes work?

Key word "perhaps".

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Key word "perhaps".

Hmmm, if they don't, wouldn't that mean Stick was lying about "tens of thousands" of perfectly dialed come-ups?

Why, yes it would.

The mental gymnastics Sticky's knob slobbers will perform to ignore what's right there in front of them is amazing. Olympic quality stuff.

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic critique by me,swaying the Market. Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented and I'm rooting for Reupold,more than they are themselves. Simplistic facts routinely get Brokedick Dreamers Whining,as they quantify their Professional Victim Status by perpetual Hurt Feeler Reports. I reckon it's plum Flattering,how often they think about me,as they "live" vicariously". Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by screaminweasil

Love the 10-20 year old pics and video extrapolations by all sides. Really brings the room together

The gun I posted is a new build for the 2024 season that I finished up about 30 days ago (December 2023).

The 600 yard report is from the January 2024 Precision Rifleman magazine. The Score Nationals report is from the September 2022 issue of the same magazine.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented

But, you did, in your own words, dial "tens of thousands" of times on Leupold scopes with no issues at all, right? You were not lying about their tracking repeatability or accuracy back then were you?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

World Class! HINT

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Even more world class! Ocho the great

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

You could probably tighten that group up if you got a little closer.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented

But, you did, in your own words, dial "tens of thousands" of times on Leupold scopes with no issues at all, right? You were not lying about their tracking repeatability or accuracy back then were you?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented

But, you did, in your own words, dial "tens of thousands" of times on Leupold scopes with no issues at all, right? You were not lying about their tracking repeatability or accuracy back then were you?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic critique by me,swaying the Market. Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented and I'm rooting for Reupold,more than they are themselves. Simplistic facts routinely get Brokedick Dreamers Whining,as they quantify their Professional Victim Status by perpetual Hurt Feeler Reports. I reckon it's plum Flattering,how often they think about me,as they "live" vicariously". Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

1827? I’m looking for a 54.18 MSR but I could slum that no problem. Maybe even another of Mark’s but none of the three come around very often, and only know one guy that has all 3.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic critique by me,swaying the Market. Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented and I'm rooting for Reupold,more than they are themselves. Simplistic facts routinely get Brokedick Dreamers Whining,as they quantify their Professional Victim Status by perpetual Hurt Feeler Reports. I reckon it's plum Flattering,how often they think about me,as they "live" vicariously". Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Good fucking grief...what the hell did you just say?

Blah, blah, blah, blah, belch, fart, pass out, blah, blah, blah, I'm the greatest, blah, blah, blah, Leupold wouldn't pay me to be a pimp so had to find another company, blah, blah, blah.

Same Riar Rarry, different day.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Good fucking grief...what the hell did you just say?

In short, he avoided my simple yes or no question about what he posted re dialing Leupold scopes.

Deflect. Deny. Disengage.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Blood in the water or just another round of midgets bluffing?

Brother Sam... as you know, I'm not in the bluffing game

For sure man, cheers!

This scope went from shooting 5 shot 100 yd. groups like this:
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To this. The POA was for all shots on the two targets below was the .065" center dot....which is the 'X' at 100 yds.
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And then back to normal after being repaired:

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Now that's what I like to see when a scope fails.

No sneaky shots, no wander....it just blows up. This one had no internal rattles and the w/e adjusters moved, felt and sounded normal.

Good shootin' -Al

When I saw stick’s egg shooting video at 500, I wondered if I could do it. So I took my rifle that had a Leupold scope on it to the range.

No place to set the eggs at 500, so I set them at 560 yards.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon the power of my words and a simplistic critique by me,swaying the Market. Unfortunately,not even I can shoot wares until they're Invented and I'm rooting for Reupold,more than they are themselves. Simplistic facts routinely get Brokedick Dreamers Whining,as they quantify their Professional Victim Status by perpetual Hurt Feeler Reports. I reckon it's plum Flattering,how often they think about me,as they "live" vicariously". Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

1827? I’m looking for a 54.18 MSR but I could slum that no problem. Maybe even another of Mark’s but none of the three come around very often, and only know one guy that has all 3.

I have (2) 1827's and am hip on same. The 2nd I drive in a MacaMillion T-hole Sillywet,sorta off brown and green. Hint.

Unfortunately my latest Reupold(MK5 3.6-18x Mil/Mil FFP),couldn't hit an egg at 50yds,upon a World Class Rifle,with 20 Mil's dumped in it's erector. Hint.

Swap scopes and you can do as you please and eek the goody out of the platform. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Wonder if stick sobered up enough from the holidays to "test" more scopes. Or does the Christmas tree reticle still spin in circles when looking through the glass?

It's a shame even the "world class" rifles can't shoot for $hit in the wrong hands. HINT

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

World Class. Hint.

Plum flattering,how many times a day you gals think about me,the durations of same and the incredible power of my words. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

Originally Posted by The LiL Fish She-Man Leupold Haters Club

Quality photos Mr Stick, childish gif Mr Burns, laughing at you.

Yep.

Personally, I would have invested more in real estate and/or productive 'equipment' rather than a never ending rifle/scope/trinket collection.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Personally, I would have invested more in real estate and/or productive 'equipment' rather than a never ending WORLD CLASS rifle/scope/trinket collection.

Fixed it for you. 😉

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Personally, I would have invested more in real estate and/or productive 'equipment' rather than a never ending rifle/scope/trinket collection.

That's the kind of thinking that keeps you from schillin ChiCom optics and making the Big Bucks.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish watching her Schill thread go to shit

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Personally, I would have invested more in real estate and/or productive 'equipment' rather than a never ending rifle/scope/trinket collection.

Brokedick thinkin.....

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Personally, I would have invested more in real estate and/or productive 'equipment' rather than a never ending rifle/scope/trinket collection.

Brokedick thinkin.....

Yet the three musketeers here really think they're kicking ass!

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Personally, I would have invested more in real estate and/or productive 'equipment' rather than a never ending rifle/scope/trinket collection.

Brokedick thinkin.....

Yet the three musketeers here really think they're kicking ass!

They be delusional.....

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Appreciating assets might be a thing?

Of course we all spend money on guns/ammo/optics but don't assume me to be impressed by the same old new fishing pole or rifle.

Up the game with bigger and more impressive things or quit trying to brag.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Appreciating assets might be a thing?

Of course we all spend money on guns/ammo/optics but don't assume me to be impressed by the same old new fishing pole or rifle.

Up the game with bigger and more impressive things or quit trying to brag.

Brother Sam..... please don't spook the hole with smarts and logic....

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Appreciating assets might be a thing?

Of course we all spend money on guns/ammo/optics but don't assume me to be impressed by the same old new fishing pole or rifle.

Up the game with bigger and more impressive things or quit trying to brag.

I love my toys that go mine and related stuff have a lot. investment-wise I prefer land , cows, equipment, which includes John deere, caterpillar, and komatsu

and you take that expensive land close to town and turn it into a subdivision... $$

Originally Posted by irfubar

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Actually, that’s what you think I think. And you left out those who think blowing a load into a vagina and making a baby is an accomplishment

🤣

Cheers gents and pards.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Actually, that’s what you think I think. And you left out those who think blowing a load into a vagina and making a baby is an accomplishment

🤣

Hell that's the easy part... raising them to be decent productive humans is the real challenge....
Another worthwhile challenge is building something of much value, family , business, home etc....

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Actually, that’s what you think I think. And you left out those who think blowing a load into a vagina and making a baby is an accomplishment

🤣

Hell that's the easy part... raising them to be decent productive humans is the real challenge....
Another worthwhile challenge is building something of much value, family , business, home etc....

I completely agree

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Cheers gents and pards.

Salute....

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I've a couple few Leupie's,that have over 20,000rds of centerfire apiece through them,with nary a bobble.

For conversation...................

Originally Posted by The LiL Fish She-Man Leupold Haters Club

Back atcha!

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Pantry pistol.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Funny you would use the word "think" with that list.

Imitation remains THE most Sincere form of Flattery,especially from a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,Feigning Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Fortunately for her,Emoji's are free,so even she can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Seems Leupolds pass drop tests fairly well

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Hello all! I have a 4.5-14x50 30mm tube Scope from Leupold that has had an issue of adding 2-4MOA of right windage when I adjust the vertical turret.

For background, I used to work 2 doors down from Leupold HQ and brought this scope into them 4 times over the years, by hand, and every time they would bring it back out and say, "It checks out fine. we couldn't find anything"

This made me feel crazy over the years. So after a break with hunting because of work, I jumped back in and started working loads and shooting out to 1200yds and everything in between. With the assumption that everything was fine, I carried on until I went to the range one morning and had nearly zero wind and sure enough I was hitting in that 2-4MOA range, off target.

To give context to my urgency here, I randomly drew a great Utah Mule Deer tag after being diagnosed with cancer last year and I've been pushing my post-surgery recovery to even try and make this hunt happen.

All of that brought me to today. I went to the range and set up a "Tall Target Test". Got in early, plumbed the line, and checked it with a carpenter's level. The first 2 shots hit perfectly for my 200yd zero. I then cranked up 30 MOA and bingo, impact was 2MOA right. I then decided to double check and dialed 30MOA back to my zero and BOOM, 2.5MOA right and additionally 2.5MOA low from my original zero.

How would you handle this situation when I call them Monday? Because now It strongly leans towards the lines of..
1) You didn't back up your product
2) You basically called me a liar four times to my face.
3) I'm now in a position to hurry up prep for a rare Utah tag with time and energy I don't have.

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So to qualify, I am a big NF fan, This week has been a bit rough, Hopefully the NF moderator will be watching!! 7-35 x56 ATACR. Five days before hunt departure and the Zero clutch breaks inside the elevation turret, snaps around the shaft driving elevation and guess what? NF gives me a RMA where I can pay the freight and send the $3200.00 scope back for what they just told me this evening would be a 4 week------ yes 4 week turnaround on the repair, No other help, just have to dig out a vortex to keep from throwing the rifle at the critters. Just wanted to share this experience, It is frustrating as the scope is 9 months old, All my NF stuff is also registered with them. Yahoo!!

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I have a vortex gen 2 pst on my 223, that’s served me well and had zero issues with for around two years. Yesterday me and a friend went to do some barricade practice and the scope started randomly shifty exactly .4 mils left and right. It would hold for a few rounds the shift left the a few rounds later shift right always .4 mils and no vertical shift at all. I came home and put another scope on the rifle and shot 3 10 rounds groups with no shift in poi so that ruled out anything but the scope. I’ve never seen a scope go out and only be horizontal and so consistent in its shift.

Just out of curiosity has anyone experienced a optic failure like this before?

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I was out training with a local SWAT sniper team today and I had to cut my training short because my S&B crapped out on me....again!!

The problem is that the scope is causing my shots to go all over the place. For example, shooting at 300y and my shots hitting 6 to 7 inches right of POA. Initially it was subtle enough to make me question my shooting. I spent the last month or so scratching my head and second guessing, my body position, my trigger control, my breathing, pretty much everything. Just recently I started to consider the scope as the problem. I'm a solid shooter but I'm not one to blame my gear when I pull a shot or two. It wasn't until today shooting at 300y that it really answered the "what the f**k is going on" question.

This isn't my first issue with their scopes. A couple of years ago I had issues with one of their scopes too. The whole situation was an absolute nightmare.

At this point they agreed to send me a new one, so that's good. But I have to admit I'm really tired of having scope issues every year and half or so.

So I'm curious any other S&B users out there having problems with their scope.

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I recently purchased a Fullfield II 2-7x35. The windage adjustment was extremely difficult to turn, i.e. it would not turn using fingers, but required using a quarter. The elevation adjustment would not turn at all! I had to use a pair of pliers in order to get the adjustment to start moving. After operating both adjustments through their full range several times, they are operating easier now - but still nothing like the Burris Signature scope I purchased about two years ago. The quality of the adjustments knobs are also rather poor. They are very soft (deformed when I tried to use a screwdriver to turn them) and look much less refined than those on the Signature series. I think this new Fullfield II may not be holding zero either, as groups are extremely poor now from the muzzleloader I put the scope on. Up until now Burris has been my first choice for a new scope, but this experience is making me have second thoughts. I think I will take this off the gun and send it back for repair.

Another friend recently sent in a nearly new (< 50 rounds fired) Fullfield scope to get target knobs installed. He installed the scope on a shotgun and after about 20 rounds the reticle loosened and started to turn in the scope. This scope has been sent back again to be fixed.

Has anyone else experienced quality issues with Burris scopes recently?

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Super Sniper scope failure

Friends I have put off writing this because I have honestly given this peice of equipment every benefit of the dought that I could. I recently purchased this optic from a company over the internet ,mountted it on my Remington 700p sniper rifle and over the course of 4 trips to the range and roughly 250 rounds the rifle was still unable to be zeroed with this unit.As a matter of fact the best group i managed was about 1 moa,then after pulling the bolt for a brief cleaning the scope was off nearly a foot to the left and low !! Nothing contacted the scope during cleaning,it simply just wont hold ajustment,this senario has been playing out over and over for the last month. So today I put a Leupold mark 4 on it and it zeroed in 6 shoots and is shooting 1/2 moa ,problem fixed.
Now heres were I got pissed I contacted the company and told them about the problem with this junk scope I purchased a month ago from them with every intention of ordering a new leupold mark 4 .I wished them to give me a credit towards a scope that worked ,I wasnt asking for full credit I would have settled for 75% of the $500 I just spent with them and gladly paid the resttowards the Leupold. They told me they werent gonna do anything about it and after we had a few words between us offered me $150 for thier scope back, obviously thats all its worth to them but they will sell this junk to Americans for over 3 times that!Needless to say Ill never purchase anything from them again and I would urge others not to buy one of these scopes either becauase they are absolute junk!!!
By the way just so people dont think i dont know my way around a rifle , I served my country with the U.S. Army I was with the 3/75th .RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!!! HOOAH

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G'day from the land of oz!

Cautionary tale here gents, So a couple of years ago I purchased a sightron s2 4-16x42 scope. It was mounted on a 17HMR rifle carefully. The scope was always a tad sticky on the mag ring but nothing that made me too suspect.

Well over the next couple of years the binding increased gradually to the point where it wouldn't allow me to go to the minimum mag at all. I was convinced by a mate to send it back because this shouldn't be happening. Also the rifle was never dropped or dinged in any way that made me suspicious of damage.

So off it goes back to sightron through my supplier, Just for me to receive that the scope is bent 1/4 inch out of spec and it cannot be repaired and as the scope is no longer made cannot be replaced.

The offer I received was for a STAC scope at a slightly discounted rate (wholesale price most likely) but this scope is 30mm and my rifle has 1 inch rings.

Further emails have basically seen them dust their hands of me.

My suggestion for folks thinking of a sightron is I suggest you find another company with a more flexible and understand warranty.

So, should somebody dig up the many, many many more leupold falure posts as well? Or are you going to continue to prove yourself as a dumphuck? Great hob being a man… not being able to get laid and all. Lol

Please bring back up how aluminum bedding blocks counter affect the thermal expansion of scopes… GD, you are a D ‘bag. #snakeoilsalesman. The only advice you should be giving is how to be fat, obnoxious, and how to avoid women.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Appreciating assets might be a thing?

Of course we all spend money on guns/ammo/optics but don't assume me to be impressed by the same old new fishing pole or rifle.

Up the game with bigger and more impressive things or quit trying to brag.

To frank I am more interested in the older rifles, especially if they have been carried and used for some time...preferably generational.

Originally Posted by JessiesGash

So, should somebody dig up the many, many many more leupold falure posts as well? Or are you going to continue to prove yourself as a dumphuck? Great hob being a man… not being able to get laid and all. Lol

Originally Posted by JessiesGash

Please bring back up how aluminum bedding blocks counter affect the thermal expansion of scopes… GD, you are a D ‘bag. #snakeoilsalesman. The only advice you should be giving is how to be fat, obnoxious, and how to avoid women.

😆😆😆

Any chance you could attribute the quotes so we can get some context.

One of my favorite World Class Sleepers. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Actually, that’s what you think I think. And you left out those who think blowing a load into a vagina and making a baby is an accomplishment

🤣

Making one isn't an accomplishment, its the raising it.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Buzz thinks the measure of a man is how many elk they kill
Stick thinks the measure is how many guns he owns
Ricky thinks it's trophies
John thinks he's a wizard

God I love the campfire....

Actually, that’s what you think I think. And you left out those who think blowing a load into a vagina and making a baby is an accomplishment

🤣

What about pulling out and making a pearl necklace?

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

What about pulling out and making a pearl necklace?

Jeez Paul, we have seen you in shorts...you don't get an opinion!

Originally Posted by jackmountain

This is a thread about scopes. Try to stay focused.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

This is a thread about scopes. Try to stay focused.

Pretty sure it ceased being about scopes on page four.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Pretty sure it ceased being about scopes on page four.

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

Originally Posted by goalie

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

And how did that make you feel Paul?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...e/202107/why-being-ignored-hurts-so-much

Laffin…

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

And how did that make you feel Paul?

Makes me think he's a lying POS. 😉

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🖕

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

And how did that make you feel Paul?

Makes me think he's a lying POS. 😉

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🖕

Is this having negative affects on your daily life?
Is it consuming your thoughts?

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

And how did that make you feel Paul?

Makes me think he's a lying POS. 😉

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🖕

Is this having negative affects on your daily life?
Is it consuming your thoughts?

I find it amusing. It's nice to have it cleared up that the OP is just trolling though. 😉

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

And how did that make you feel Paul?

Makes me think he's a lying POS. 😉

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🖕

Is this having negative affects on your daily life?
Is it consuming your thoughts?

I find it amusing. It's nice to have it cleared up that the OP is just trolling though. 😉

And that is what is hurting your feelings?

Originally Posted by JeffP

And that is what is hurting your feelings?

Oh, no hurt feelings, unlike Stick's cheerleading squad.

I'll be content with my middle-class gear, shooting animals once instead of 8 times, content in the knowledge that I was correct in my assessment that Stick is a troll, as confirmed by his own cheerleading squad.

I can almost hear it: "Stick, Stick, he's our man, if he can't break it, no one can"

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🖕

lol

The Optics forum never disappoints.

I wish Leupold could get mechanics right.

We need to get this back on topic and start posting tax returns.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

We need to get this back on topic and start posting tax returns.

You first, Brother Jack.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

And that is what is hurting your feelings?

Oh, no hurt feelings, unlike Stick's cheerleading squad.

I'll be content with my middle-class gear, shooting animals once instead of 8 times, content in the knowledge that I was correct in my assessment that Stick is a troll, as confirmed by his own cheerleading squad.

I can almost hear it: "Stick, Stick, he's our man, if he can't break it, no one can"

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🖕

And this brings much needed validation into your life?
Is that why you’re consumed and unable to walk away?

Originally Posted by FOsteology

lol

The Optics forum never disappoints.

NEVER

$oalie has stick derangement syndrome

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by jackmountain

We need to get this back on topic and start posting tax returns.

You first, Brother Jack.

I’ll have to post my wife’s, I’m a kept man.

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My fathers Swarovski Z6 was sad, great optically, but it failed a very early life. I don’t think he had two boxes of 30-378 through his weatherby, before the scope [bleep] the bed. It also did get wet, but not really submerged in a river.

Take that however you want. It was mounted in a Near mfg mount, so it wasn’t like he didn’t try.

The sense of entitlement by Brokedick Professional Victims,is never not funnier than fhuqk. Their Hurt Feeler Reports,always entertain as do the notions that other suffer the bane of their "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Fortunately for them,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even they can "afford" to "contribute",as they "live" vicariously and FULLY consumed. A herd of Moths heading for The Flame,is always good for a fhuqking laugh. Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by boatanchor

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Leica,Zeiss and Swaro have yet to make a bullet steering device,worth a fhuqk. Hint...............

Have to agree with Lil'Dick on this one..............

IMO Leica, Zeiss and Swaro probably make THE best Binoculars and Spotters on the market
on the other hand will never buy another rifle scope from any of them

Scope Failures

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Six different brands from Asia, Europe, and USA. I didn't list the brand names, because one failure out of a million reported on the internet, gets regurgitated, then becomes a high failure rate problem. All scopes fail, all scopes break, all scopes wear out over time, they are a mechanical device, and all mechanical devices eventually have problems.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

The weather is doing no favors,as we're riding out a Bomb Cyclone at work

That storm was rough. I had to cancel some work plans due to it too and the drifts that it made on my trapline were intense. I spent all day yesterday just getting to my traps and digging them out from under some of those drifts. It was nuts.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

World Class. Hint.

Which Vudoo is that?

Blew right THE fhuqk up here and was rather impressive. Traces hitting now and another Blizzard currently. Hint.

Vudoo Raven Special Run. Ranch contour LW,more forgiving chamber(dirt,grit & schit) and Timney Elite Hunter trigger. Skookum,for certain and awaiting GrandBaby to grow into same. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

And that is what is hurting your feelings?

Oh, no hurt feelings, unlike Stick's cheerleading squad.

I'll be content with my middle-class gear, shooting animals once instead of 8 times, content in the knowledge that I was correct in my assessment that Stick is a troll, as confirmed by his own cheerleading squad.

I can almost hear it: "Stick, Stick, he's our man, if he can't break it, no one can"

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🖕

Actually there is already a cheer for him on Youtube:

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by goalie

Well, a request for pictures or description of the TTT setup was repeatedly ignored......

And how did that make you feel Paul?

Makes me think he's a lying POS. 😉

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🖕

Is this having negative affects on your daily life?
Is it consuming your thoughts?

effects

Originally Posted by JessGash Packed full of SAND

Please bring back up how aluminum bedding blocks counter affect the thermal expansion of scopes… GD, you are a D ‘bag. #snakeoilsalesman. The only advice you should be giving is how to be fat, obnoxious, and how to avoid women.

It's now proven aluminum bedding blocks give better accuracy and POI stability over varied conditions.

You might want to get with the times and check out the winning rifles in PRS or NRL Hunter field competitions.

All aluminum bedding and lots and lots of Leupolds.

You beclowned yourself by being a dumbshit.

Thanks for playing.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Aluminum bedding blocks do work well… but not because they “counteract the thermal expansion of the scope” as you claimed! Good job skirting the subject, as usual. You are FOS and a fat obnoxious DB!

Originally Posted by JessG

Aluminum bedding blocks do work well… but not because they “counteract the thermal expansion of the scope” as you claimed! Good job skirting the subject, as usual. You are FOS and a fat obnoxious DB!

Little did you know someone could go from AF POL ASVAB scores to a physics expert!

Originally Posted by JessG

Aluminum bedding blocks do work well… but not because they “counteract the thermal expansion of the scope” as you claimed! Good job skirting the subject, as usual. You are FOS and a fat obnoxious DB!

The ol "You are right but actually were wrong" whine and whimper.

LOL.

I told you ladies that aluminum bedding blocks were the most stable for a lot of reason. And time has proven me a WIZARD.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Always interesting to watch those who perpetually sing the praises regarding themselves. Problem is, 99% of the time it's a solo.

Saddest guys ever contest with no clear winner.

Neither Brother Stick nor Brother Burns’ elevator reaches the top floor.

Neither Brothers are the sharpest tool in the shed

Neither Brothers are playing with a full deck of cards

Great job skirting again. Moron! The only thing you have done is run your mouth. So, how does a aluminum bedding block counter-effect the thermal expansion of a scope? You are a lying fat obnoxious, fat POS! You, trickey Rickey, and goilie should get together to talk about how great you think of yourself’s. Lol

Originally Posted by JessGash Packed with itchy Sand

Great job skirting again. Moron! The only thing you have done is run your mouth. So, how does a aluminum bedding block counter-effect the thermal expansion of a scope? You are a lying fat obnoxious, fat POS! You, trickey Rickey, and goilie should get together to talk about how great you think of yourself’s. Lol

I already explained it at lenght 15 years ago with test data.

We all agree time has, once again, proven me a WIZARD.

Aluminum bedding blocks in chasis, like my stock, are the best for stable zeros and accuracy in varied conditions.

Liar! No, you didn’t. Lol, please repost that stupid BS. Absolutely no correlation to your claim! You are a F’ng clown. Please keep proving how much of a D’bag you are… fat, obnoxious, and a liar is obvious. #snakeoilsalesman

Originally Posted by JessGash Packed with itchy Sand

Liar! No, you didn’t. Lol, please repost that stupid BS. Absolutely no correlation to your claim! You are a F’ng clown. Please keep proving how much of a D’bag you are… fat, obnoxious, and a liar is obvious. #snakeoilsalesman

Time has proven me a WIZARD. On aluminum bedding block and many other things, such as Leupold scopes.

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Aluminum bedding block and Leupold scope. You may gaze in wonder.

Please, do post your “test results”! They are completely irrelevant and do not support your claim. You are FOS, a clown and a fat, obnoxious D’bag!

Liar!

Originally Posted by JessG

Liar!

But he is consistent🤣

Originally Posted by Partsman

Originally Posted by JessGash packed with Sand

WIZARD!

But he is consistent🤣

Yes I am.

Same rifle same zero but 70 degrees colder.

Aluminum bedding block and Leupold scope.

Ol John "aintgotnofamily" burns has unfortunately picked up the bottle again. It would appear his stint in rehab didn’t take, which is not unusual.

Keep at it gizard, maybe one day prior to a massive myocardial infarction, you'll kick the sauce.

(Que a dumb, unfunny gif, cause that's all he's got...literally)

World Class and my favorite Reupold. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

This one wandered around like a Saturday night drunkard. All better now, though.
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This one went back right out of the box as the parallax couldn't be corrected at any yardage. Again, static testing is too simple not to do. Seems to be fine so far.
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None of these have given me any gas.
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Sightron's might be pretty good.

Good scopes are where you find them, regardless of brand name. In my experience, if a scope performs well on the static test it's going to do pretty well when it's on the gun. Every company has the mechanics of tracking and holding zero figured out...that's not that hard any more. It's the assembly process and the Q.C. process that makes the difference in what the customer gets.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sightron's might be pretty good.

One of the worst scopes Charley ever evaluated was a Sightron specimen

A variable that maxed at 20X with a Mil Dot reticle

The reticle subtensions were not even close to being Mils. It was so bad, he called Sightron to discuss the issue with them. They just shrugged their shoulders

🤷🏿‍♂️

An acquaintance of mine, Cecil Tucker, did hundreds of "Tucker conversions" on Leupold scopes just like that Al, over a couple of decades. My take was it was akin to the Burris Signature Poli-Lock feature. Not sure if Cecil is still alive or not there in Odessa. Every scope maker/seller has a service department for good reason.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

In my experience, if a scope performs well on the static test it's going to do pretty well when it's on the gun. Every company has the mechanics of tracking and holding zero figured out...that's not that hard any more. It's the assembly process and the Q.C. process that makes the difference in what the customer gets.

And the materials used. And the implementation design.

I’ve seen scopes track well when tested statically, only to have a 0.3-0.5 MOA of uncertainty in zero retention when tested using live fire.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

An acquaintance of mine, Cecil Tucker, did hundreds of "Tucker conversions" on Leupold scopes just like that Al, over a couple of decades. My take was it was akin to the Burris Signature Poli-Lock feature. Not sure if Cecil is still alive or not there in Odessa. Every scope maker/seller has a service department for good reason.

This was one that Cecil did with the coil spring captured in the standoff. The tension adjusting screw was added later. It might have even gotten a sniff of argon.

Unfortunately, Cecil passed in September of 2022.

Common sense tells us that all brands of scopes can have issues....just like vehicles. The brands of scopes that I've had mechanical issues with is the same as the brands that I haven't. For the average consumer, it's the trend of issues that makes a difference when they purchase any product. And how those issues are resolved.

I was picking up some primers and powder at one of my local places the other day. They always have a pretty good selection of scopes on hand....Nightforce, Burris, Leupold, Vortex, etc. I don't know if they were just getting ready to do inventory or had already done it but there was a display scope in the cabinet with this sign on it...obviously not meant to be counted in inventory or have a dollar value attached to it. I quietly mentioned to one of the managers that they might want to reword that sign.

When I left, there were a couple others guys looking at it and smiling.

Now, I'm in no way an 'anti Leupold' person..far from it. A few try to twist it, take things out of context or parse little sections of sentences to quote that fits their narrative. But like bad weather, people like that are always around. This could have been on any other brand scope and it would have been just as funny. But you simply can't make up stuff like this!

Live Fire is the only thing I give a schit about,because my scopes are Bullet Steering Devices,not Observation Devices. Hint.

Burris Signature Posi-lign was/is THE Greatest Goat Fhuqk of ALL Time. I suffered a few in 4-16x and 6-24x. It was impossible to zero and then it never held. Turrets on same,only added to the fhuqking HILARITY. Hint.

an etched reticle with a subtension woe,is EASILY corrected and though not ideal(obviously),it certainly isn't a fhuqking Show STOPPER like a compromised erector,that wanders without rhyme or reason and is typical Reupold. Hint.

I drive a Sightron 6-24x FFP etched Mil/Mil on a Sucko 6PPC and it is unerring in it's tracking and repeats. The reticle jives the erector. Reupold don't. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Jacky_Giving_Handjobs_to_Hobos

Ol John "aintgotnofamily" burns has unfortunately picked up the bottle again. It would appear his stint in rehab didn’t take, which is not unusual.

Keep at it gizard, maybe one day prior to a massive myocardial infarction, you'll kick the sauce.

(Que a dumb, unfunny gif, cause that's all he's got...literally)

I have a few pictures and now you know what a bull elk looks like and a Gold Ring. Win Win for both of us.

It's an interesting attempt at coping to pretend the guy kicking you azz around the 24hr Campfire is drunk so I bet we are seeing more projection.

Here's the gif for which you begged. It's so easy to see the tells when Randos squeal and whine in the throes of ENVY.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

One of my favorite World Class Sleepers. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

One would think you would have learned about throwing your gear in creeks from this.

Between this & scope mounting, it's obvious you are a little slow on the uptake.

Nothing is fhuqking funnier than Whining Brokedick Professional Victims,submitting their Hurt Feeler Reports,in regards to things they are fhuqking CLUELESS about. Pardon The Old War Horse being of a lineage,wayyyyy beyond your "abilities","means" and "comprehension". Fortunately for Whining Brokedicks,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute",while "living" vicariously. Hint.

World Class Sleeper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

I have an EPL4-4x16 Arken also. Mounted on 22RF. Tracks perfect, reticle grads perfect, glass perfect.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Ever want to know what hunting with an egomaniac,alcoholic, retarded, fat azz is like? This face sums it up........

We've already addressed this gem lol

The Randos always have a tell.

Originally Posted by Jackie_Handjob_knowing she will never kill a Bull

Originally Posted by thegizard

The Randos always have a tell.

I'm telling you you're a pathetic sack of $hit. That's my tell.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I drive a Sightron 6-24x FFP etched Mil/Mil on a Sucko 6PPC and it is unerring in it's tracking and repeats. The reticle jives the erector. Reupold don't. Hint.

WOW, you finally admitted you had your head up your butt about Sightron! Let's see, how did you describe them before?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Sightron is absolute dog schit [bleep] junk and they wouldn't even make a decent Fish Knocker.

But cheer up...BSA sells alotta scopes too.

Laffin'!

This perfectly sums up the value of your opinion regarding rifles and scopes. If you haven't used it, you just lie and say its "dog schit [bleep] junk" all the while saying you "shoot them all." You know what opinion without knowledge is?

IGNORANCE. That term sure describes you, "Often wrong, never unsure!"

If there's anything else regarding rifles, scopes, etc I can teach you, don't be afraid to ask!

Pardon the power of my words,controlling your EVERY "thought" and "move",as you "live" vicariously and pound out Hurt Feeler Reports,to vindicate your Professional Victim Status and extol very WELL founded Insecurities. Hint.

World Class. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Don't feel too bad Boxer, its not your fault you had your head up your butt about Sightron. Don't dwell on you showing your ignorance, just be thankful you learned something about shooting!

Originally Posted by slm9s

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I drive a Sightron 6-24x FFP etched Mil/Mil on a Sucko 6PPC and it is unerring in it's tracking and repeats. The reticle jives the erector. Reupold don't. Hint.

WOW, you finally admitted you had your head up your butt about Sightron! Let's see, how did you describe them before?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Sightron is absolute dog schit [bleep] junk and they wouldn't even make a decent Fish Knocker.

But cheer up...BSA sells alotta scopes too.

Laffin'!

This perfectly sums up the value of your opinion regarding rifles and scopes. If you haven't used it, you just lie and say its "dog schit [bleep] junk" all the while saying you "shoot them all." You know what opinion without knowledge is?

IGNORANCE. That term sure describes you, "Often wrong, never unsure!"

If there's anything else regarding rifles, scopes, etc I can teach you, don't be afraid to ask!

**sensible chuckle**

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by JGRaider

An acquaintance of mine, Cecil Tucker, did hundreds of "Tucker conversions" on Leupold scopes just like that Al, over a couple of decades. My take was it was akin to the Burris Signature Poli-Lock feature. Not sure if Cecil is still alive or not there in Odessa. Every scope maker/seller has a service department for good reason.

This was one that Cecil did with the coil spring captured in the standoff. The tension adjusting screw was added later. It might have even gotten a sniff or argon.

Unfortunately, Cecil passed in September of 2022.

Common sense tells us that all brands of scopes can have issues....just like vehicles. The brands of scopes that I've had mechanical issues with is the same as the brands that I haven't. For the average consumer, it's the trend of issues that makes a difference when they purchase any product. And how those issues are resolved.

I was picking up some primers and powder at one of my local places the other day. They always have a pretty good selection of scopes on hand....Nightforce, Burris, Leupold, Vortex, etc. I don't know if they were just getting ready to do inventory or had already done it but there was a display scope in the cabinet with this sign on it...obviously not meant to be counted in inventory or have a dollar value attached to it. I quietly mentioned to one of the managers that they might want to reword that sign.

When I left, there were a couple others guys looking at it and smiling.

Now, I'm in no way an 'anti Leupold' person..far from it. A few try to twist it, take things out of context or parse little sections of sentences to quote that fits their narrative. But like bad weather, people like that are always around. This could have been on any other brand scope and it would have been just as funny. But you simply can't make up stuff like this!

Al, I have had a few scopes with a Cecil Tucker conversion and they worked very well..........then I met Bob Brackney of Wickenburg, Az. he took it to a different level.
internally locked a Leupold scope and went to Starrett external micrometer adjustments. I have two of them that I will never part with. Absolutely Benchrest only but really cool.
You ever try one of those ??????

Originally Posted by boatanchor

Al, I have had a few scopes with a Cecil Tucker conversion and they worked very well..........then I met Bob Brackney of Wickenburg, Az. he took it to a different level.
internally locked a Leupold scope and went to Starrett external micrometer adjustments. I have two of them that I will never part with. Absolutely Benchrest only but really cool. You ever try one of those ??????

I don't have one but a couple of shooters I know do. Like you, they love 'em.
Bob helped me out recently with some info and pieces on a McMillan/Brackney BR action I'm rebuilding for a friend. First class gentleman all the way.

Good shootin'

-Al

I wonder if anyone has tested the MK 5 3-15 before here on the fire?

Looks like it happened. Wonder who posted this picture?

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I wonder if anyone has tested the MK 5 3-15 before here on the fire?

Looks like it happened. Wonder who posted this picture?

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What do you think that proves?
Forgot, you’re really emotional so let me rephrase it…..
What do you FEEL like that proves.

Another actual test, not just shooting 3 groups
Lasted 65 rds
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

Don’t read his Maven review….

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Another actual test, not just shooting 3 groups
Lasted 65 rds
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

Don’t read his Maven review….

More groups? OK.

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

Backstory:

I had to drive 100 miles to buy NyQuil since it was Sunday.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Another actual test, not just shooting 3 groups
Lasted 65 rds
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/2x-leupold-mark-5-field-evaluations.278289/

Don’t read his Maven review….

More groups? OK.

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

No this Maven review. https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/maven-rs-5-4-24x50mm-sfp-mil-mil-field-evaluation.250504/
$1,400 I’d expect a little (lot) better…..
You have a financial interest in this brand as well, so shill away though.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

I remember when he posted the review and those groups. Absolutely sick!

Isn’t that the same Leupold model that my buddy has that tested perfectly and that also, stick has that is the focus of this thread?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

No this Maven review. https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/maven-rs-5-4-24x50mm-sfp-mil-mil-field-evaluation.250504/
$1,400 I’d expect a little (lot) better…..
You have a financial interest in this brand as well, so shill away though.

The latest Maven reviewed was the best optic ever tested in the Rokslide drop tests. The. Best. Evarh.

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I remember when he posted the review and those groups. Absolutely sick!

Isn’t that the same Leupold model that my buddy has that tested perfectly and that also, stick has that is the focus of this thread?

Yes I do believe it's the same optic. How about that.

Who could have imagined LiL Fish would have such struggles. She couldn't even keep her groups under 3 MOA.

Who could have predicted the struggles?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

No this Maven review. https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/maven-rs-5-4-24x50mm-sfp-mil-mil-field-evaluation.250504/
$1,400 I’d expect a little (lot) better…..
You have a financial interest in this brand as well, so shill away though.

The latest Maven reviewed was the best optic ever tested in the Rokslide drop tests. The. Best. Evarh.

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I remember when he posted the review and those groups. Absolutely sick!

Isn’t that the same Leupold model that my buddy has that tested perfectly and that also, stick has that is the focus of this thread?

Yes I do believe it's the same optic. How about that.

Who could have imagined LiL Fish would have such struggles. She couldn't even keep her groups under 3 MOA.

Who could have predicted the struggles?

So 1 out of 2 they’ve tested was GTG.
The other? Not so much.
50/50 chance. For a scope in the >$1,000 bucks class, I don’t like the odds.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

Go ahead and lie some more, what could it hurt?

Thought this thread was about a Leupold TTT evaluation. Drifted/deflected to Maven scopes. Shilling.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

So 1 out of 2 they’ve tested was GTG.
The other? Not so much.
50/50 chance. For a scope in the >$1,000 bucks class, I don’t like the odds.

Buy another Athalon.

How did those rate on Formy's drop tests. Nobody cares about your buisness.

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Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Thought this thread was about a Leupold TTT evaluation. Drifted/deflected to Maven scopes. Shilling.

LOL Brother Burns

Burns reading all the $hit talking....

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Buy another Athalon.

How did those rate on Formy's drop tests. Nobody cares about your buisness.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jackmountain

So 1 out of 2 they’ve tested was GTG.
The other? Not so much.
50/50 chance. For a scope in the >$1,000 bucks class, I don’t like the odds.

Buy another Athalon.

How did those rate on Formy's drop tests. Nobody cares about your buisness.

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I don’t buy Chinese glass (but at least know how to spell Athlon) so wouldn’t bother reading reviews on any. Wouldn’t dream of dropping coin on a Leupold anymore either, for any reason. Have a 50% off credit on any scope right now from Leupold and just bought 3 scopes in the last month, none of which are Chinese or Leupold.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This Maven review?

Formy after his come to Jesus moment

Some day I might tell the backstory.

He’s a player. Jeff bought him a booth at SHOT (probably to get rid of him for a week).

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Were you pretending to be under the influence here?

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Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Delusional^

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by John"thegizard"Burns

Go ahead and lie some more, what could it hurt?

Delusional

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

"It's an interesting attempt at coping to pretend the guy kicking you azz around the 24hr Campfire is drunk so I bet we are seeing more projection"

You are not kicking anything...you are just too stupid to recognise this.

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

"It's an interesting attempt at coping to pretend the guy kicking you azz around the 24hr Campfire is drunk so I bet we are seeing more projection"

You are not kicking anything...you are just too stupid to recognise this.

The unarmed SLAVE from down under whimpers and whines her butthurt.

May your chains rest lightly, SLAVE. Armed Freemen care not what you whine.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by John"thegizard"Burns

You are not kicking anything...you are just too stupid to recognise this.

It's amazing how one narcissistic, egomaniac, azzhole, can be so delusional....and obese.

Originally Posted by JohnthegizardBurns

Lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

"It's an interesting attempt at coping to pretend the guy kicking you azz around the 24hr Campfire is drunk so I bet we are seeing more projection"

You are not kicking anything...you are just too stupid to recognise this.

The unarmed SLAVE from down under whimpers and whines her butthurt.

May your chains rest lightly, SLAVE. Armed Freemen care not what you whine.

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Keep sucking that biden cock you pathetic fat ponce.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

It's amazing how one narcissistic, egomaniac, azzhole, can be so delusional....and obese.

Small wonder he never attracted a woman...though rick seems very close.

No, actually you didn’t. Were you on the NyQuil then too? Lol post up your “tests”! You are a lying, fat, obnoxious D’bag!!!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The unarmed SLAVE from down under whimpers and whines her butthurt.

May your chains rest lightly, SLAVE. Armed Freemen care not what you whine.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART

Keep sucking that biden cock you pathetic fat ponce.

Unarmed SLAVE says WHat?

Originally Posted by JohnboozehoundBurns

John"thegizard"burns is delusional. Turns out he's just drunk again...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The unarmed SLAVE from down under whimpers and whines her butthurt.

May your chains rest lightly, SLAVE. Armed Freemen care not what you whine.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART

Keep sucking that biden cock you pathetic fat ponce.

Unarmed SLAVE says WHat?

3 chins ago…

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The unarmed SLAVE from down under whimpers and whines her butthurt.

May your chains rest lightly, SLAVE. Armed Freemen care not what you whine.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART

Keep sucking that biden cock you pathetic fat ponce.

Unarmed SLAVE says WHat?

link

You obfuscate a wee bit too hard, particularly for someone that is an irrelevant disease ridden failure.

Like taking candy from a baby.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Like taking candy from a baby.

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

I note that you have rubbed off on rick, and he seems to like it.

Have a nice have four chins.

Ps. I note that you don't post current pics of your corpulent disease ridden self, always mems of someone else or old pics pre four chins.

Originally Posted by JohnboozehoundBurns

Like taking candy from a baby.

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John literally takes candy from children.....

Awesome how jackwagon, jacksonhandjob, and the Serfjslave show up in a thread and add absolutely nothing in the way of substance, but only shittalk

You are a pathetic POS. Threatening to shoot people on ar15.com? Go drink some more in honor of your DBagedness!!! F’ng fat, lying, obnoxious POs!

Originally Posted by JessG

You are a pathetic POS. Threatening to shoot people on ar15.com? Go drink some more in honor of your DBagedness!!! F’ng fat, lying, obnoxious POs!

Jessieg the sockypeepee

What do you have to add? Pot, meet kettle.. you think your special because your parents paid for you to shoot competitively?!?!? Most people your age that are not in a relationship have mental disorder. That’s a fact! Lol

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Awesome how jackwagon, jacksonhandjob, and the Serfjslave show up in a thread and add absolutely nothing in the way of substance, but only shittalk

They whine about pictures of game taken yet have never posted a single one amongst all of them.

ENVY burns bright in the do nothings Randos, the be nothings Randos, and the Rando SLAVES.

Good thing they can view for free and see the Gold Ring.

Imagine hiring Brother Burns to be the head of marketing at your company. LOL

Originally Posted by JessG

What do you have to add? Pot, meet kettle.. you think your special because your parents paid for you to shoot competitively?!?!? Most people your age that are not in a relationship have mental disorder. That’s a fact! Lol

Originally Posted by JessG

What do you have to add? Pot, meet kettle.. you think your special because your parents paid for you to shoot competitively?!?!? Most people your age that are not in a relationship have mental disorder. That’s a fact! Lol

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Awesome how jackwagon, jacksonhandjob, and the Serfjslave show up in a thread and add absolutely nothing in the way of substance,

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You big mad someone is better at your game? Sad....get f ucked sissy b itch.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish watching her Schill Lying Liar thread being owned by Rick and the WIZARD

Originally Posted by Johnnygot3chinsBurns

ENVY....

Lol nobody envies those chinS....lol

Originally Posted by Johnnygot3chinsBurns

JohnthegizardBurns trying desperately to stay relevant....trying...

This is what a bull elk looks like. You'll will at least see one in your life.

Is that 2005 Brother Burns?

Man a few here seem obsessed with others appearances and weight, and insulting based on those assumptions, which equals less credibility than all others combined, and offering zero substance to relevant topics at hand at the same time. The 1st Amendment is wild.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

They whine about pictures of game taken yet have never posted a single one amongst all of them.

ENVY burns bright in the do nothings Randos, the be nothings Randos, and the Rando SLAVES.

I provided you a link you self indulgent pathetic obese fuck, but as usual you ignore what you don't want to see.

Nighty night four chins...keep a stiff upper lip (and all that British stuff).

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by JessG

What do you have to add? Pot, meet kettle.. you think your special because your parents paid for you to shoot competitively?!?!? Most people your age that are not in a relationship have mental disorder. That’s a fact! Lol

Well...the man is correct.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by Johnnygot3chinsBurns

JohnthegizardBurns trying desperately to stay relevant....trying...

And failing...must chap his chins.

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Man a few here seem obsessed with others appearances and weight, and insulting based on those assumptions, which equals less credibility than all others combined, and offering zero substance to relevant topics at hand at the same time. The 1st Amendment is wild.

Apparently you don't know burns, nor do you seem to care that he and his boyfriend started all this crap.

The pathetic disease-ridden piece of filth brings it on himself.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by stinkycoyote

Man a few here seem obsessed with others appearances and weight, and insulting based on those assumptions, which equals less credibility than all others combined, and offering zero substance to relevant topics at hand at the same time. The 1st Amendment is wild.

Apparently you don't know burns, nor do you seem to care that he and his boyfriend started all this crap.

The pathetic disease-ridden piece of filth brings it on himself.

Do you have to ask permission from someone who wields power over you if it’s ok to buy ammunition or use your firearms? Or did you have to turn them in?

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Cheers gents and pards.

Cheers Sammo. Hope you’re doing well.

Once upon a time.

So, you can’t back up your BS claims?!?!? You are a fatt, obnoxious, lying, POS! Rikey cumguzzler seems to be the same… lol

Originally Posted by JessG

So, you can’t back up your BS claims?!?!? You are a fat are a Fat, obnoxious, lying, POS! Rikey cumguzzler seems to be the same… lol

The South Dakota sockpuppet speaks!

😝😆🤣😝😆

How pathetic is it that a dude with an anonymous handle on the fire in the first place, is such a twat that he has to go to the next level of pussification and create another, fake, profile to shiittalk?

LMFAO

Originally Posted by JessG

So, you can’t back up your BS claims?!?!? You are a fatt, obnoxious, lying, POS! Rikey cumguzzler seems to be the same… lol

Great counter, the fat dumphuk has still not addressed the questio. I, SD or not, speaks the truth. You be you. You act like an entitled dipscidt. … prove me wrong. Whoo paid for your shooting career, dumphug? When was the last time you got laid? minus having to pay for it? You are a fuggin loser!

Originally Posted by JessG

Great counter, the fat dumphuk has still not addressed the questio. I, SD or not, speaks the truth. You be you. You act like an entitled dipscidt. … prove me wrong. Whoo paid for your shooting career, dumphug? When was the last time you got laid? minus having to pay for it? You are a fuggin loser!

its the aerosolized lead gasoline that once ruled the atmosphere for the boomer, yet his feisty lip keeps his mate at bay, though other males are not subdued

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JessG

Great counter, the fat dumphuk has still not addressed the questio. I, SD or not, speaks the truth. You be you. You act like an entitled dipscidt. … prove me wrong. Whoo paid for your shooting career, dumphug? When was the last time you got laid? minus having to pay for it? You are a fuggin loser!

Obviously this is I’m-Dolt’s sock

😂😂😂

Please Post your “tests” that show aluminum bedding blocks counteract the thermal expansion of scopes! You can’t, because you are a lying, fat obnoxious, POS! Prove me wrong!

Go drink some more, you’ll probably feel better about yourself, D,Bag!!!

Originally Posted by JessG

Please Post your “tests” that show aluminum bedding blocks counteract the thermal expansion of scopes! You can’t, because you are a lying, fat obnoxious, POS! Prove me wrong!

Already did. Whole thread on the subject.

You can read it.

But you may still reap the rewards of a properly bedded aluminum bedding block rifle if only by viewing the spendor. Thermal Stability is a thing. Magic.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you have to ask permission from someone who wields power over you if it’s ok to buy ammunition or use your firearms? Or did you have to turn them in?

No rick , I don't...I also don't require permits to hunt any specific species unless it is on government land.

I do have to have a licence and a permit to purchase if I wish to purchase a new firearm, a licence is also required to purchase ammo or components.

Bit like your nics and the licencing of suppressors.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It is what you do.

Post up your “test results” dumphug! You show how heat affects poi, but not how “aluminum bedding blocks counteract the thermal expansion of scopes”, as you claimed. You are a lying, POS, obnoxious D’bag!!!#snakeoilsalesman!!!

How long ago was the claim made?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you have to ask permission from someone who wields power over you if it’s ok to buy ammunition or use your firearms? Or did you have to turn them in?

No rick , I don't...I also don't require permits to hunt any specific species unless it is on government land.

I do have to have a licence and a permit to purchase if I wish to purchase a new firearm, a licence is also required to purchase ammo or components.

Bit like your nics and the licencing of suppressors.

Seems like you’re not being truthful

Quote

A person must have a firearm licence to possess or use a firearm. Licence holders must demonstrate a "genuine reason" (which does not include self-defence) for holding a firearm licence[2] and must not be a "prohibited person". All firearms must be registered by serial number to the owner.

Good job skirting, several times!!! We should bring back up how you threatened to kill somebody on another forum!!! You are a F’ng clown!!! Maybe just STFU and keep eating/drinking yourself to death. You are and always have been an obnoxious, lying D’bag!!!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you have to ask permission from someone who wields power over you if it’s ok to buy ammunition or use your firearms? Or did you have to turn them in?

No rick , I don't...I also don't require permits to hunt any specific species unless it is on government land.

I do have to have a licence and a permit to purchase if I wish to purchase a new firearm, a licence is also required to purchase ammo or components.

Bit like your nics and the licencing of suppressors.

Seems like you’re not being truthful

Quote

A person must have a firearm licence to possess or use a firearm. Licence holders must demonstrate a "genuine reason" (which does not include self-defence) for holding a firearm licence[2] and must not be a "prohibited person". All firearms must be registered by serial number to the owner.

Like burns, you ignore what you do not wish to see.

If you wish to make an idiot of yourself that is on you.

What do you think nics is rick...it is for vetting the purchase of...exactly the same as a licence.

You can split hairs all you want, but that is what it is.

Make sure to post when you have time John
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../gonew/1/ever-shoot-an-antler-off#UNREAD

Interesting weapon for turkey hunting. Interesting outfit. Not even any call.

I guess it is easier shooting unware birds at long range while they aren't even concerned with your presence, than it is to locate birds and call them in to shotgun distance.

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Originally Posted by John"theliquor"Burns

Already did.

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Poor ol drunkard has to protect leupold at all cost....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you have to ask permission from someone who wields power over you if it’s ok to buy ammunition or use your firearms? Or did you have to turn them in?

No rick , I don't...I also don't require permits to hunt any specific species unless it is on government land.

I do have to have a licence and a permit to purchase if I wish to purchase a new firearm, a licence is also required to purchase ammo or components.

Bit like your nics and the licencing of suppressors.

Seems like you’re not being truthful

Quote

A person must have a firearm licence to possess or use a firearm. Licence holders must demonstrate a "genuine reason" (which does not include self-defence) for holding a firearm licence[2] and must not be a "prohibited person". All firearms must be registered by serial number to the owner.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you have to ask permission from someone who wields power over you if it’s ok to buy ammunition or use your firearms? Or did you have to turn them in?

No rick , I don't...I also don't require permits to hunt any specific species unless it is on government land.

I do have to have a licence and a permit to purchase if I wish to purchase a new firearm, a licence is also required to purchase ammo or components.

Bit like your nics and the licencing of suppressors.

Seems like you’re not being truthful

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A person must have a firearm licence to possess or use a firearm. Licence holders must demonstrate a "genuine reason" (which does not include self-defence) for holding a firearm licence[2] and must not be a "prohibited person". All firearms must be registered by serial number to the owner.

You really think the US government is not keeping track of the guns you buy? Every transaction on a debit card is recorded and ammo purchased is labeled and cataloged.

Just updated your account to in a relationship, John needs that approval.

I'm VERY "surprised" that nobody has actually shot a MK5 3.6-18x FFP Mil/Mil TTT with Live Fire,except me. Their amazingly compromised erectors will take a World Class Rifle that Agg's in the .2's,all the way to 1-1/2" ++,with a modest erector correction. Hint.

Simply set a good scope aboard same and it returns to it's former Glory. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.......................

what rings are those ?

Burris Extreme Signatures. They have nice surface area,rather good fasteners,live centers and accept eccentrics to add inclination. Scope pictured,is less than a Mil from bottom of erector travel and that is a foolproof zero stop,which allows max latitude. Hint.

Sadly,Reupold has schit erector travel in conjunction with it's zero stop,a Goat Fhuqk sized tube(35mm) and the odd 10.5 Mil per revolution turret. All could be pressed into service,if it's erector was sound,but nothing could be further from the truth. I reckon it'll be a great Conversation Piece and Loaner Donor for Dissenters. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Maybe you didn’t “tap” on the erector after each adjustment as recommended by leupold .

I grew up doing same,just as everyone else did. I'm also prone to dial past and comeback to a given come-up,to hopefully bolster Reupold Erector "Odds". Hint.

Few things are fhuqking funnier,than a Reupold TTT,even with their Flagship(s). Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I grew up doing same,just as everyone else did. I'm also prone to dial past and comeback to a given come-up,to hopefully bolster Reupold Erector "Odds". Hint.

Few things are fhuqking funnier,than a Reupold TTT,even with their Flagship(s). Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by slm9s

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I drive a Sightron 6-24x FFP etched Mil/Mil on a Sucko 6PPC and it is unerring in it's tracking and repeats. The reticle jives the erector. Reupold don't. Hint.

WOW, you finally admitted you had your head up your butt about Sightron! Let's see, how did you describe them before?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Sightron is absolute dog schit [bleep] junk and they wouldn't even make a decent Fish Knocker.

But cheer up...BSA sells alotta scopes too.

Laffin'!

This perfectly sums up the value of your opinion regarding rifles and scopes. If you haven't used it, you just lie and say its "dog schit [bleep] junk" all the while saying you "shoot them all." You know what opinion without knowledge is?

IGNORANCE. That term sure describes you, "Often wrong, never unsure!"

If there's anything else regarding rifles, scopes, etc I can teach you, don't be afraid to ask!

I have had multiple erector failures with Leupolds over the decades. One particular failure still has me laughing at Leupold.

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements. That was the last straw. I sold it and all my other Leupolds.

Life is too short to hunt with a scope that requires grease redistribution. Still laughing......

In The Day,erector come-ups were exceedingly modest,because LRF's hadn't hit the scene. Reupold could very often arrange same,until the advent of LRF's and better projectiles,though Reupold sat stagnant on their laurels. This did them NO favors and is a concise recipe for Flagship erector FAILURE,as per my experience. Bless their hearts for trying though. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

In The Day,erector come-ups were exceedingly modest,because LRF's hadn't hit the scene. Reupold could very often arrange same,until the advent of LRF's and better projectiles,though Reupold sat stagnant on their laurels. This did them NO favors and is a concise recipe for Flagship erector FAILURE,as per my experience. Bless their hearts for trying though. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

In The Day,erector come-ups were exceedingly modest,because LRF's hadn't hit the scene. Reupold could very often arrange same,until the advent of LRF's and better projectiles,though Reupold sat stagnant on their laurels. This did them NO favors and is a concise recipe for Flagship erector FAILURE,as per my experience. Bless their hearts for trying though. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

You’re going to have to cut the line, you and a few others will never get the hook out.

Originally Posted by SLM

You’re going to have to cut the line, you and a few others will never get the hook out.

Yeah, you must be referring to the idiots that keep going after John and Rick, but I understand your concern.....

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by SLM

You’re going to have to cut the line, you and a few others will never get the hook out.

Yeah, you must be referring to the idiots that keep going after John and Rick, but I understand your concern.....

All feathers of the same bird.

Originally Posted by SLM

All feathers of the same bird.

As are the concern trolls. Birds of a feather......

Originally Posted by Azshooter

I have had multiple erector failures with Leupolds over the decades. One particular failure still has me laughing at Leupold.

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements. That was the last straw. I sold it and all my other Leupolds.

Life is too short to hunt with a scope that requires grease redistribution. Still laughing......

I think they also said that on the Campfire Special Presentation.

Stick keep the Leupold it's the only thing that you can count on. Hint.

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

In The Day,erector come-ups were exceedingly modest,because LRF's hadn't hit the scene. Reupold could very often arrange same,until the advent of LRF's and better projectiles,though Reupold sat stagnant on their laurels. This did them NO favors and is a concise recipe for Flagship erector FAILURE,as per my experience. Bless their hearts for trying though. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

You’re going to have to cut the line, you and a few others will never get the hook out.

Got a belly full of John Jrs don't ya. LOL

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I grew up doing same,just as everyone else did. I'm also prone to dial past and comeback to a given come-up,to hopefully bolster Reupold Erector "Odds". Hint.

Few things are fhuqking funnier,than a Reupold TTT,even with their Flagship(s). Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

The struggle bus is full ain't it!

Originally Posted by Azshooter

I have had multiple erector failures with Leupolds over the decades. One particular failure still has me laughing at Leupold.

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements. That was the last straw. I sold it and all my other Leupolds.

Life is too short to hunt with a scope that requires grease redistribution. Still laughing......

The late Dick Thomas of Premier Reticle took the time to educate me on the hysteresis of scopes tracking system. In a nutshell, adjustable mechanical devices want to 'stay' where they're at....a bit of 'memory' in the system.
Dick got around that on the Leupolds he tweaked by installing two 7 lb. oppossed bias springs internally to replace the single 11 lb. leaf style bias spring.Even in a scope that sees little change in w/e adjustments, it's a good idea to run the adjusters to both limits occasionally. If you look at high tech lab quality measuring instruments, that's a routine part of their Q.C. process.

Many of the Competiton series 35X, 40X and 45X scopes were returned because of the same issue. Leupold added a second bias spring.

It wasn't just Leupold that has/had these issues. A B&L I had was just miserable until it got Tuckerized.

This is one of my Hunter Benchrest class guns from 2012-2013. The gold ring on the front of the 6X A.O. scopes isn't as important as the gold Premier Reticle decal on the back.

Good shootin' -Al

Thanks, Brother Al.

Good stuff Al. I remember you commenting on exercising mechanical adjustments in the past. Since then I use that process on my Warner rear match sights a couple of times a year. Keeps them tracking at a constant 0.0026" per click per dial indicator checks.

I know Leupold added a second bias spring in my favorite 2.5-8 scope when they installed the MOA CDS turret.

Originally Posted by JeffP

Maybe you didn’t “tap” on the erector after each adjustment as recommended by leupold .

That is funny! Coffee out of my nose funny!

Originally Posted by Azshooter

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements..

Exercising the turrets is a thing.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by Azshooter

I have had multiple erector failures with Leupolds over the decades. One particular failure still has me laughing at Leupold.

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements. That was the last straw. I sold it and all my other Leupolds.

Life is too short to hunt with a scope that requires grease redistribution. Still laughing......

The late Dick Thomas of Premier Reticle took the time to educate me on the hysteresis of scopes tracking system. In a nutshell, adjustable mechanical devices want to 'stay' where they're at....a bit of 'memory' in the system.
Dick got around that on the Leupolds he tweaked by installing two 7 lb. oppossed bias springs internally to replace the single 11 lb. leaf style bias spring.Even in a scope that sees little change in w/e adjustments, it's a good idea to run the adjusters to both limits occasionally. If you look at high tech lab quality measuring instruments, that's a routine part of their Q.C. process.

Many of the Competiton series 35X, 40X and 45X scopes were returned because of the same issue. Leupold added a second bias spring.

It wasn't just Leupold that has/had these issues. A B&L I had was just miserable until it got Tuckerized.

This is one of my Hunter Benchrest class guns from 2012-2013. The gold ring on the front of the 6X A.O. scopes isn't as important as the gold Premier Reticle decal on the back.

Good shootin' -Al

Gotta love a Stolle action.

dave

Pre-flight and pre-mounting,I ran the MK5's turrets to/fro multiple times,less zero stop engagement and upon the windage too. Hint.

My World Class Vudoo would shoot representative Agg clusters,prior to erector movement,with the MK5 aboard. Add erector input and ALL bets were off. Nothing was lineal. I've seen this MANY times before,ala Reupold. Hint.

I've never done anything but fhuqking FLOG on MQ turrets and they could give a flying fhuqk about abuse,while trumping Velvet Glove Reupolds by HILARIOUS margin. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Azshooter

I have had multiple erector failures with Leupolds over the decades. One particular failure still has me laughing at Leupold.

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements. That was the last straw. I sold it and all my other Leupolds.

Life is too short to hunt with a scope that requires grease redistribution. Still laughing......

I wouldn't think in the grand scheme of manufacturing challenges that distributing grease would be a difficult feat. I am a goddam idiot when it comes to all things mechanical, and I know how to distribute grease when I assemble something.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by Azshooter

I have had multiple erector failures with Leupolds over the decades. One particular failure still has me laughing at Leupold.

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements. That was the last straw. I sold it and all my other Leupolds.

Life is too short to hunt with a scope that requires grease redistribution. Still laughing......

I wouldn't think in the grand scheme of manufacturing challenges that distributing grease would be a difficult feat. I am a goddam idiot when it comes to all things mechanical, and I know how to distribute grease when I assemble something.

Yes, Brother

More on hysteresis- by way of background and why arguing about scopes and tuners needs a "grain of salt". Mechanical and electrical design folks will try to linearize a problem to obtain a workable solution by making either the times or the physical dimensions small so the other variables can by worked with. Examples are the "slop" in gears (erectors) or the oscillations in electrical systems. Chemical reactions have many their own, and are part of the equilibrium process.
The non-linear analysis of this process is called bifurcation, the lay word is chaos. Chaos is very ordered on different levels and which are called basins of attraction. Most folks confuse it with Brownian Random Motion which is a different thing. These basins are the slop in the gears, referred to by ALs post. All of these things are 3rd order equations and will have bifurcations at different and smaller iterations of the variables. (All this assumes no mistakes of the shooters part). It has nothing to do with long range hunting, type or brand of the optical device or the character using the device-- at some level it will bifurcate.
Guns have two systems (optical and the firing process). Trying to find the "happy" spot between the two systems completely ignores the interaction of random and systematic errors in the analysis.
Currently work is being done on structured barrels, that delve into the small iterations of the variables. Typically the "vibrations" talked about on gun forums are some type of harmonic waves, dealing with wave speeds in the compression front, and speed difference in solid materials. Hopefully they will get around to seeing the firing process is a Bessel function, and the statistical analysis is Poisson , not Bell curve.
If the perfect scope was out there, it would be the only one, everyone would know it, Nobody (Sticks old internet handle) would buy the other stuff. (sorry couldn't resist the double negative)

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Azshooter

The scope didn't track properly. I called Leupold and asked a few questions. Was told I could send it in but first try this fix: "rotate the elevation and windage turrets lock to lock at least four times to redistribute the grease". It worked and the scope once again had repeatable erector movements..

Exercising the turrets is a thing.

It surely is a thing.

New scopes get run a few times end to end on elevation and windage prior to static testing.

If a scope has been sitting for a while I will do a left 1/2 rotation from zero and then right 1/2 rotation from zero and then back to zero moving the erector toward the spring.

Elevation gets 2 rotations up and then back to zero moving the erector toward the spring.

Lots of dialing keeps everything moving smoothly just like a precision mill/lathe.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

In The Day,erector come-ups were exceedingly modest,because LRF's hadn't hit the scene. Reupold could very often arrange same,until the advent of LRF's and better projectiles,though Reupold sat stagnant on their laurels. This did them NO favors and is a concise recipe for Flagship erector FAILURE,as per my experience. Bless their hearts for trying though. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Lying Liars Love Lying.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I saw The Pimp kill a Buck in his bed at 1004yds,with his light 243AI wearing 3.5-10x 40mm non-A/O Leupie.

Yes...first poke................

I've simply bought,shot,got 100's of scopes and have less than zero Emotional attachment. Professional Victims,could never even begin to fathom that magnitude. Hint.

Pardon my simply having shot it all and then some and being afforded the luxuries,of not being forced to guess. A Reupold MK5 TTT will never happen,simply because they haven't the metal and that Pun,be intended. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Ceteris Paribus -- coil springs have better hysteresis curves than leaf. IIRC Weaver, may Bushnell's advertising 10-15 years ago, specifically stated that they had two coil springs, Also I think NF started up about that time and said this about NXS. At that time lots of internet traffic about only using one leaf spring at the bisect angle of the erector angles. One of the reasons IOR fell out of favor.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

Originally Posted by Etoh

More on hysteresis- by way of background and why arguing about scopes and tuners needs a "grain of salt". Mechanical and electrical design folks will try to linearize a problem to obtain a workable solution by making either the times or the physical dimensions small so the other variables can by worked with. Examples are the "slop" in gears (erectors) or the oscillations in electrical systems. Chemical reactions have many their own, and are part of the equilibrium process.
The non-linear analysis of this process is called bifurcation, the lay word is chaos. Chaos is very ordered on different levels and which are called basins of attraction. Most folks confuse it with Brownian Random Motion which is a different thing. These basins are the slop in the gears, referred to by ALs post. All of these things are 3rd order equations and will have bifurcations at different and smaller iterations of the variables. (All this assumes no mistakes of the shooters part). It has nothing to do with long range hunting, type or brand of the optical device or the character using the device-- at some level it will bifurcate.
Guns have two systems (optical and the firing process). Trying to find the "happy" spot between the two systems completely ignores the interaction of random and systematic errors in the analysis.
Currently work is being done on structured barrels, that delve into the small iterations of the variables. Typically the "vibrations" talked about on gun forums are some type of harmonic waves, dealing with wave speeds in the compression front, and speed difference in solid materials. Hopefully they will get around to seeing the firing process is a Bessel function, and the statistical analysis is Poisson , not Bell curve.
If the perfect scope was out there, it would be the only one, everyone would know it, Nobody (Sticks old internet handle) would buy the other stuff. (sorry couldn't resist the double negative)

Yes, harmonic vibrations are something that effects even a scope…

Rifle Harmonics upon Firing

ACOG accelerated test development

https://re-test.com/uploads/shock-amplifier-1131275080.pdf

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Always enjoyed watching the big Schmidt bending in that video..

dave

Hint

These are good examples of too large of a bifurcation interval linear analysis. As a result the barrel is represented as a sinusoidal wave. The longitudinal sound ways, going thru steel, have already exited the barrel. The bullet has already exited the barrel for the sine wave (and it is not a sine wave its a Bessel function) to be in the calculations as also the recoil moment.

The human eye will average these results, and the nervous system is too slow to react to it. The interval of observation should be at the Pixel size at least, maybe even Angstrom level.

This entire thing is kinda of a DeJa vu.

When Stick was a Nobody he was invited to show his stuff to an all expense Match put on by Lowlight of Snipershide, about 10-15 years ago. He declined and as I recall said, "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want."

This time Mr. Burns was invited to show his stuff at an expense paid shoot by a member of Campfire, and replied. "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want".

I feel your pain. 75gr Hornie's play nice though. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Stick does sum up the advances and reason for in shooting over the last 10 rears. Laser Range Finders--- changed everything

Now if I can figure out he shoots more than one rifle at a time!

Typical jaunt. 6mm bore size outing,for R&D(which never ends). Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Etoh

Stick does sum up the advances and reason for in shooting over the last 10 rears. Laser Range Finders--- changed everything

Now if I can figure out he shoots more than one rifle at a time!

What rock have you been living under that LRFs just came on the scene 10 years ago?

Originally Posted by Etoh

This entire thing is kinda of a DeJa vu.

When Stick was a Nobody he was invited to show his stuff to an all expense Match put on by Lowlight of Snipershide, about 10-15 years ago. He declined and as I recall said, "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want."

This time Mr. Burns was invited to show his stuff at an expense paid shoot by a member of Campfire, and replied. "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want".

LOL. I already was invited and did show my stuff in front of many 24hr CF members.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by huntsman22

Didn't stay to watch fights?.....

Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'

Nice shootin' Burns!

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Nice shootin John!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

Nice shooting, John!

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by Etoh

This entire thing is kinda of a DeJa vu.

When Stick was a Nobody he was invited to show his stuff to an all expense Match put on by Lowlight of Snipershide, about 10-15 years ago. He declined and as I recall said, "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want."

This time Mr. Burns was invited to show his stuff at an expense paid shoot by a member of Campfire, and replied. "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want".

You threw that one over the plate on purpose, right?

Predictable results were predictable. Congrats?

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

HeHeHE

First LRF ever saw was at Dugway long time ago
First one I could afford was a Leo---- pos.
Still got/use Swarovski- don't think they make them
Present ones with build in Ballistic packages - really nice, if you don't mind playing with telephones/elecronics etc. instead of shooting

Originally Posted by TeddyRoosevelt

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Say what you will, one of the "blowhards" has backed it up in front of a crowd of 24HC members. The other, not so much.

Brokedick Delusional Dreaming,consumes more than a few and folks reliably think about me with a much greater frequency,than they shoot live rounds. Fortunately for them,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji's are free,so even they can "afford" to "contribute",as they "live" vicariously and desperately try to attach in some form,to no avail. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.....................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Brokedick Delusional Dreaming,consumes more than a few and folks reliably think about me with a much greater frequency,than they shoot live rounds. Fortunately for them,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji's are free,so even they can "afford" to "contribute",as they "live" vicariously and desperately try to attach in some form,to no avail. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.....................

We have seen your house. Please stop calling everyone broke and referencing "AFFORD" it's just sad. Maybe change it to not everyone has the same priorities! Cause if I lived in a shït box I could have a really nice artillery piece. Hint.

The unleashing of your very WELL founded Insecurities,via High Pitched Nasal Whine,sure is fhuqking soothing. Keep Dreaming aloud,via Hurt Feeler Reports,as you quantify that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

We have seen your house. Please stop calling everyone broke and referencing "AFFORD" it's just sad. Maybe change it to not everyone has the same priorities! Cause if I lived in a shït box I could have a really nice artillery piece. Hint.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

WORLD CLASS WARES!!!! Then shows his Anderson Lower!

Ladies,

I'm VERY "surprised!" of your very well placed fixations,as you HOPE to escape suffering being you,if only for fleeting moments. Your Brokedick Whine is sooooooothing. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Originally Posted by slm9s

WORLD CLASS WARES!!!! Then shows his Anderson Lower!

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Edit: for full disclosure, I have a poverty pony lower on a 22lr pistol build and it's fine. But, considering the Anderson nickname, it is pretty funny.

Boxer, does Anderson make WORLD CLASS lowers?

If not, why do you "run" one?

Ladies,

Fortunately for you,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji's are free,as you fixate me,to escape suffering being you. I barely have dozens and dozens and dozens of lowers,none of which makes a flying fhuqk,other than shopping fire control groups,in relation to pin sizing. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ladies,

Fortunately for you,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji's are free,as you fixate me,to escape suffering being you. I barely have dozens and dozens and dozens of lowers,none of which makes a flying fhuqk,other than shopping fire control groups,in relation to pin sizing. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

cabin fever... optics thread... poo flingin... this is great......

Ask Stick how far he can shoot from his front porch... lmfao... poser calling everyone "broke dick" you can't make this schit up... hahhahahaha

Originally Posted by irfubar

cabin fever... optics thread... poo flingin... this is great......

Ask Stick how far he can shoot from his front porch... lmfao... poser calling everyone "broke dick" you can't make this schit up... hahhahahaha

It's WORLD CLASS entertainment......

Originally Posted by LiL Fish tried to go Schillin and got hooked Lyin

Will this item be back in stock soon? Why is the photo of the optic out of focus?

Leupold VX-6HD

WORLD CLASS ANDERSON LOWERS! Now I've heard it all!

Ladies,

Feel free to quantify how many times a day,you think about me and why noone ever thinks of you. Then explain why my words are so much more powerful than your's,as you add stolen pics and emoji's to your Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by irfubar

cabin fever... optics thread... poo flingin... this is great......

Ask Stick how far he can shoot from his front porch... lmfao... poser calling everyone "broke dick" you can't make this schit up... hahhahahaha

It's WORLD CLASS entertainment......

It's some of the saddest stuff I have ever seen, mentally illness is real.

The two camps fighting for nothing over nothing. All the while doing nothing.

It why liberals are taking our rights. Dummies to busy fight over nothing.

I worked in the Medical community for 40 years, Stick uses the term Broke Dick. Really confusing to me.
There is a medical condition Called BrokeDick, and the incidence has increased in the last 10 years from implants and use of Viagra type drugs. Occurs when intercourse is done from impossible angles and the implant breaks. Frequency of occurrence is higher in non-hetero relationships. How does he know and which way is he using it? Just stating my confusion- this is not an ad hominem implication

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

Love it when people show pictures of dead big game animals,, try that without a tag and see what happens. I used to hunt the Yellowstone area, especially Parkway during the 60s, didn't have cell phones then, no pictures and no ATVs. Lots of evenings spent betting and drinking at the Cowboy bar on who could get the Elk to bugle back from the refuge.

Originally Posted by Etoh

I worked in the Medical community for 40 years, Stick uses the term Broke Dick. Really confusing to me.
There is a medical condition Called BrokeDick, and the incidence has increased in the last 10 years from implants and use of Viagra type drugs. Occurs when intercourse is done from impossible angles and the implant breaks. Frequency of occurrence is higher in non-hetero relationships. How does he know and which way is he using it? Just stating my confusion- this is not an ad hominem implication

It can also happen when a straight guy has his ho bent over giving full length full power thrusts, accidentally pulls out, then inadvertently slams back in to the tweenerular region.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by irfubar

cabin fever... optics thread... poo flingin... this is great......

Ask Stick how far he can shoot from his front porch... lmfao... poser calling everyone "broke dick" you can't make this schit up... hahhahahaha

It's WORLD CLASS entertainment......

It's some of the saddest stuff I have ever seen, mentally illness is real.

The two camps fighting for nothing over nothing. All the while doing nothing.

It why liberals are taking our rights. Dummies to busy fight over nothing.

Projection lives on here at 24hr.

You're the Sockpuppet of KSMITH. Kris Smith.

I caught you lying about being a Navy SEAL and claiming STOLEN VALOR.

Now you follow me around with your puppet like a scorned teen age girl. A pathological liar who has her head full of snakes.

Anyhow. Back to the SHOW.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by Etoh

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

I owned various businesses for 30 years. I personally can't imagine worse advertising.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by Etoh

I worked in the Medical community for 40 years, Stick uses the term Broke Dick. Really confusing to me.
There is a medical condition Called BrokeDick, and the incidence has increased in the last 10 years from implants and use of Viagra type drugs. Occurs when intercourse is done from impossible angles and the implant breaks. Frequency of occurrence is higher in non-hetero relationships. How does he know and which way is he using it? Just stating my confusion- this is not an ad hominem implication

It can also happen when a straight guy has his ho bent over giving full length full power thrusts, accidentally pulls out, then inadvertently slams back in to the tweenerular region.

no doubt, just that the incidence has increased significantly

but doesn't tell me if Nobody (sticks old internet name) is using in the medical or economic sense, if he means both, more power to him,

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by Etoh

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

I owned various businesses for 30 years. I personally can't imagine worse advertising.

Me too and, consultation also, depends a lot on the nature of the product, goods vs. services as an example

LOL, all Big Stick has to do is make a post and it's like

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by Etoh

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

I owned various businesses for 30 years. I personally can't imagine worse advertising.

You are an internet Rando who can't imagine spending the money to get a good rifle. Nobody would try and advertise to you because you're not a customer.

[Linked Image from media.tenor.com]

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Brokedick Delusional Dreaming,consumes more than a few and folks reliably think about me with a much greater frequency,than they shoot live rounds. Fortunately for them,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji's are free,so even they can "afford" to "contribute",as they "live" vicariously and desperately try to attach in some form,to no avail. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.....................

Do you even hunt, Chet?

Oh yeah, post that wolf pic again, THAT YOU DIDN'T KILL yet pose off as yours

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

LOL, all Big Stick has to do is make a post and it's like

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Seeing as guy has GIGs of copy-paste screenshots teed up to use in his replies, it would seem he's on the hook as well.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by Etoh

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

I owned various businesses for 30 years. I personally can't imagine worse advertising.

You are an internet Rando who can't imagine spending the money to get a good rifle. Nobody would try and advertise to you because you're not a customer.

[Linked Image from media.tenor.com]

McWhorter makes a pretty good one......

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Sako doesn't do too bad either.....integral aluminum chassis and all......

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

As a businessowner, you're advertising even when you're not intending to advertise. Figure that one out.

Originally Posted by Etoh

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by Etoh

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

I owned various businesses for 30 years. I personally can't imagine worse advertising.

Me too and, consultation also, depends a lot on the nature of the product, goods vs. services as an example

As you seem to have weird take on things have you addressed my replies to your previous posts? Maybe I missed it?

Originally Posted by Etoh

Stick does sum up the advances and reason for in shooting over the last 10 rears. Laser Range Finders--- changed everything

Now if I can figure out he shoots more than one rifle at a time!

What rock have you been living under that LRFs just came on the scene 10 years ago?

Originally Posted by Etoh

This entire thing is kinda of a DeJa vu.

When Stick was a Nobody he was invited to show his stuff to an all expense Match put on by Lowlight of Snipershide, about 10-15 years ago. He declined and as I recall said, "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want."

This time Mr. Burns was invited to show his stuff at an expense paid shoot by a member of Campfire, and replied. "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want".

LOL. I already was invited and did show my stuff in front of many 24hr CF members.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by huntsman22

Didn't stay to watch fights?.....

Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'

Nice shootin' Burns!

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

c

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Nice shootin John!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

Nice shooting, John!

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

LOL, all Big Stick has to do is make a post and it's like

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Seeing as guy has GIGs of copy-paste screenshots teed up to use in his replies, it would seem he's on the hook as well.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I couldn't find that GIF anywhere, so I had to make it myself just for this thread. No doubt it's already been added to the GIF library of Burns.

And I am enjoying this thread. All Stick has to go is make some inane comment, and it's like swatting a bee hive.

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

I couldn't find that GIF anywhere, so I had to make it myself just for this thread. No doubt it's already been added to the GIF library of Burns.

And I am enjoying this thread. All Stick has to go is make some inane comment, and it's like swatting a bee hive.

Would you say it's more or less exciting than looking up people's tax records?

You never did mention the mortgage amount on the place next door.

GFY

Quote

In 2009 I purchased a VX-II 4-12x40mm Adj. Objective. I placed it on my wife's 7mm Remington Magnum. After working up a load that shot consistent at 100 yards, I decided to start testing MOA adjustments out to 600 yards. Well, I never got that far as I figured out the last 18-24 MOA Elevation Adjustment was not functioning properly. The elevation adjustment worked fine until I got to the top end of the adjustment range, again the last 18-24 MOA.

I decided to send the scope back a few weeks before my wife's elk hunt and it showed up just before opening day, but I had already put another scope on on the gun. We zeroed the gun at 300 yards with the replacement scope and called her good. My wife ended up killing a bull a 400 yards with some old fashion hold over. The gun and load shoot VERY well for an almost factory model 700.

Last year I placed the VX-II back on the rifle and put gun away without shooting it. This year my wife drew two great tags and my 13 year old cousin drew an early rifle bull tag. I took the gun out last week and zeroed it at 100. I called it good for the day.

Tonight I took my cousin out and we shot a great cold barrel group at 100. I decided to check MOA adjustments at 300 yards. I dialed the turret up 8 MOA and settled in... 10" low. I settled in again... 8" low! WTH! Dialed up 4 more MOA, so now 12 MOA! 8"low! Dialed another 3 MOA! Now 15 MOA! 8"low! Great group at 300 yards, but 8" low! Great group!

I pulled the target back to 100 yards. With 15 MOA still dialed up, I shot 1" High. I cleaned the gun and put 2 more shots a 1/2" high. I then clicked it back to zero and could see I had no elevation changes the last 18 MOA. Again!!!

Any Suggestions? Anyone ever had this problem?

I am calling Leupold on Monday and going to request a brand NEW scope. We have had this scope for 3 years and it hasn't even been on a hunt.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

I couldn't find that GIF anywhere, so I had to make it myself just for this thread. No doubt it's already been added to the GIF library of Burns.

And I am enjoying this thread. All Stick has to go is make some inane comment, and it's like swatting a bee hive.

Would you say it's more or less exciting than looking up people's tax records?

You never did mention the mortgage amount on the plane next door.

GFY

Is that still what you are telling yourself so you can sleep at night? I never did, nor did I need to, nor could I have, "look up people's tax records." But if that makes you feel better about getting caught in a lie, well, whatever helps you sleep.

The lesson to all that was this: if you are going to call someone's daughter, who wasn't even part of the cponversation, a "slut," call a person's grandchild a "bastard," call them both a wellfare case, then post a picture of Stick's private residence and make fun of it, while simultaneously posting a picture of yourself in front of someone elses house while intimating it was your own, then it might have been wise to have remembered you actually did post a truthful picture of your property on this forum in the past, and that you actually posted the name of the lake you live on. Not too hard to look at that on Google maps and see your house was right next to to the one you werer claiming as yours. Once you saw your lie was busted, you cracked.

That thread is still available on this forum if they want to see it.

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

LOL, all Big Stick has to do is make a post and it's like

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Well done 10!

Spot on and never not funny….

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

I couldn't find that GIF anywhere, so I had to make it myself just for this thread. No doubt it's already been added to the GIF library of Burns.

And I am enjoying this thread. All Stick has to go is make some inane comment, and it's like swatting a bee hive.

Would you say it's more or less exciting than looking up people's tax records?

You never did mention the mortgage amount on the plane next door.

GFY

Is that still what you are telling yourself so you can sleep at night? I never did, nor did I need to, nor could I have, "look up people's tax records." But if that makes you feel better about getting caught in a lie, well, whatever helps you sleep.

The lesson to all that was this: if you are going to call someone's daughter, who wasn't even part of the cponversation, a "slut," call a person's grandchild a "bastard," call them both a wellfare case, then post a picture of Stick's private residence and make fun of it, while simultaneously posting a picture of yourself in front of someone elses house while intimating it was your own, then it might have been wise to have remembered you actually did post a truthful picture of your property on this forum in the past, and that you actually posted the name of the lake you live on. Not too hard to look at that on Google maps and see your house was right next to to the one you werer claiming as yours. Once you saw your lie was busted, you cracked.

That thread is still available on this forum if they want to see it.

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Is that still what you are telling yourself so you can sleep at night? I never did, nor did I need to, nor could I have, "look up people's tax records." But if that makes you feel better about getting caught in a lie, well, whatever helps you sleep.

The lesson to all that was this: if you are going to call someone's daughter, who wasn't even part of the cponversation, a "slut," call a person's grandchild a "bastard," call them both a wellfare case, then post a picture of Stick's private residence and make fun of it, while simultaneously posting a picture of yourself in front of someone elses house while intimating it was your own, then it might have been wise to have remembered you actually did post a truthful picture of your property on this forum in the past, and that you actually posted the name of the lake you live on. Not too hard to look at that on Google maps and see your house was right next to to the one you werer claiming as yours. Once you saw your lie was busted, you cracked.

That thread is still available on this forum if they want to see it.

Um, just so we're clear, your saying you didn't post the name of my neighbor? Because that ain't off Google maps? And his mortgage?

GFY

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ladies,

Feel free to quantify how many times a day,you think about me and why noone ever thinks of you. Then explain why my words are so much more powerful than your's,as you add stolen pics and emoji's to your Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Actually, most of your words are at best bordering on genuine gibberish...though I do like your pictures, which are yours...of you and your own.

Originally Posted by goalie

Um, just so we're clear, your saying you didn't post the name of my neighbor? Because that ain't off Google maps? And his mortgage?

GFY

Why would I give a fugg about your neighbor? All I showed, actually you admitted, that was the house wasn't yours after all.

You never did say why you claimed your neighbor's house as your own to begin with. I have to admit I did find it ironic you would denigrate Big Stick's house then suggest the opulent home next to yours was your own, in what appeared to be some effort to embarass him.

I vaguely remember seeing a picture of Stick's house, what was the issue with it?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I vaguely remember seeing a picture of Stick's house, what was the issue with it?

Ask Goalie. He was the one who posted and apparently had an issue with it.

Originally Posted by Etoh

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by Etoh

You shouldn't get down on Burns for wanting to make a buck, its the American way. Looks like he's doing better since the trailer days at W-K in Rock Springs Wyoming when he was first starting out. no such thing as bad advertising, and he's getting it free --- here. Pretty good if you ask me.

I owned various businesses for 30 years. I personally can't imagine worse advertising.

Me too and, consultation also, depends a lot on the nature of the product, goods vs. services as an example

As you seem to have weird take on things have you addressed my replies to your previous posts? Maybe I missed it?

Originally Posted by Etoh

Stick does sum up the advances and reason for in shooting over the last 10 rears. Laser Range Finders--- changed everything

Now if I can figure out he shoots more than one rifle at a time!

What rock have you been living under that LRFs just came on the scene 10 years ago?

Originally Posted by Etoh

This entire thing is kinda of a DeJa vu.

When Stick was a Nobody he was invited to show his stuff to an all expense Match put on by Lowlight of Snipershide, about 10-15 years ago. He declined and as I recall said, "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want."

This time Mr. Burns was invited to show his stuff at an expense paid shoot by a member of Campfire, and replied. "What do I need to prove, I can shoot anytime here I want".

LOL. I already was invited and did show my stuff in front of many 24hr CF members.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by huntsman22

Didn't stay to watch fights?.....

Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'

Nice shootin' Burns!

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

c

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Nice shootin John!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

Nice shooting, John!

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I vaguely remember seeing a picture of Stick's house, what was the issue with it?

The house is fine, very modest.... just not what you would expect from Mr. Doctors wages.... everyone else is "brokedick"
And he insinuated he shoots from his front porch, to 1200yds or whatever, yet he lives in town....
His imagination pretend got the best of him.... lmao

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I vaguely remember seeing a picture of Stick's house, what was the issue with it?[

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 10Glocks

Originally Posted by goalie

[quote=10Glocks]

I couldn't find that GIF anywhere, so I had to make it myself just for this thread. No doubt it's already been added to the GIF library of Burns.

And I am enjoying this thread. All Stick has to go is make some inane comment, and it's like swatting a bee hive.

Would you say it's more or less exciting than looking up people's tax records?

You never did mention the mortgage amount on the plane next door.

GFY

Is that still what you are telling yourself so you can sleep at night? I never did, nor did I need to, nor could I have, "look up people's tax records." But if that makes you feel better about getting caught in a lie, well, whatever helps you sleep.

The lesson to all that was this: if you are going to call someone's daughter, who wasn't even part of the cponversation, a "slut," call a person's grandchild a "bastard," call them both a wellfare case, then post a picture of Stick's private residence and make fun of it, while simultaneously posting a picture of yourself in front of someone elses house while intimating it was your own, then it might have been wise to have remembered you actually did post a truthful picture of your property on this forum in the past, and that you actually posted the name of the lake you live on. Not too hard to look at that on Google maps and see your house was right next to to the one you werer claiming as yours. Once you saw your lie was busted, you cracked.

That thread is still available on this forum if they want to see it.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I vaguely remember seeing a picture of Stick's house, what was the issue with it?

The house is fine, very modest.... just not what you would expect from Mr. Doctors wages.... everyone else is "brokedick"
And he insinuated he shoots from his front porch, to 1200yds or whatever, yet he lives in town....
His imagination pretend got the best of him.... lmao

Not sure about the rest of you but I prefer to own a modest home than be up to my neck in debt for a castle

It is a house, not a kingdom.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by JSTUART

I vaguely remember seeing a picture of Stick's house, what was the issue with it?

The house is fine, very modest.... just not what you would expect from Mr. Doctors wages.... everyone else is "brokedick"
And he insinuated he shoots from his front porch, to 1200yds or whatever, yet he lives in town....
His imagination pretend got the best of him.... lmao

Not sure about the rest of you but I prefer to own a modest home than be up to my neck in debt for a castle

It is a house, not a kingdom.

It's not the house Stuart, it's the troll that resides in it.... pretending he is "world class"

Originally Posted by irfubar

It's not the house Stuart, it's the troll that resides in it.... pretending he is "world class"

To be honest I am surprised anyone can decipher enough to work out if he is trolling.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by irfubar

It's not the house Stuart, it's the troll that resides in it.... pretending he is "world class"

To be honest I am surprised anyone can decipher enough to work out if he is trolling.

Good point, maybe he isn't trolling... that is even more worrisome... trolling is sport, he may just be mental? I vote for mental myself

Originally Posted by irfubar

Good point, maybe he isn't trolling... that is even more worrisome... trolling is sport, he may just be mental? I vote for mental myself

Or he is American...and doesn't speak English!

As opposed to burns who most definitely does speak Englush.

Originally Posted by slm9s

Boxer, does Anderson make WORLD CLASS lowers?

If not, why do you "run" one?

Anderson used to, and still does, make lowers for many a "top brand" out there. They decided to go "cheap" and earned the reputation of being lower quality, while at the same time manufacturing lowers for the tacti-cool brigade.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by irfubar

Good point, maybe he isn't trolling... that is even more worrisome... trolling is sport, he may just be mental? I vote for mental myself

Or he is American...and doesn't speak English!

As opposed to burns who most definitely does speak Englush.

Well, he is from Oregon, so there is that!

Originally Posted by irfubar

Well, he is from Oregon, so there is that!

Well...you have got me there, when you are right you are right.

(we have Queenslanders).

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by irfubar

Well, he is from Oregon, so there is that!

Well...you have got me there, when you are right you are right.

(we have Queenslanders).

Enough yippin and thread slidin from the Unarmed SLAVE from down under. Let's get this thread back on track.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by JohntheliquorBurns

Ol three chins just keep yapping...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by irfubar

Well, he is from Oregon, so there is that!

Well...you have got me there, when you are right you are right.

(we have Queenslanders).

Enough yippin and thread slidin from the Unarmed SLAVE from down under. Let's get this thread back on track.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Al,

I've never had a Reupold,track anywhere NEARLY as good as a "T". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

What, are you still alive you pathetic fat slob. I thought you would have ended it out of bitter loneliness.

Oh well, there is still time...all is not lost.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

What, are you still alive you pathetic fat slob. I thought you would have ended it out of bitter loneliness.

Oh well, there is still time...all is not lost.

Damn you seem irritated. Did your overlords impose yet another freedom nullifying decree?

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Enough yippin and thread slidin from the Unarmed SLAVE from down under. Let's get this thread back on track.

Hey man, not sure if you saw, but the Leupold Mark 5 HD my buddy used to kill a once-in-a-lifetime Rocky Mountain Big Horn Ram tested PERFECTLY for reticle subtension values, PERFECTLY for click values, PERFECTLY for no zero shift with magnification changes

Same scope stick posted in this thread

Did you happen to see scenarshooter’s review of the same Mark 5 HD?

Al Nyhus would give his left nut for a hunting rifle/scope combo capable of 5-shot one-hole groups like that

And on a scope without a jerkoff “posi-lock”

LOLOLOLOL

So ya got yer pizza joint shut down for the night, come here and insult people, ya pathetic Guido fαggot

Nailed it

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

What, are you still alive you pathetic fat slob. I thought you would have ended it out of bitter loneliness.

Oh well, there is still time...all is not lost.

Damn you seem irritated. Did your overlords impose yet another freedom nullifying decree?

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Enough yippin and thread slidin from the Unarmed SLAVE from down under. Let's get this thread back on track.

Hey man, not sure if you saw, but the Leupold Mark 5 HD my buddy used to kill a once-in-a-lifetime Rocky Mountain Big Horn Ram tested PERFECTLY for reticle subtension values, PERFECTLY for click values, PERFECTLY for no zero shift with magnification changes

Same scope stick posted in this thread

Did you happen to see scenarshooter’s review of the same Mark 5 HD?

Al Nyhus would give his left nut for a hunting rifle/scope combo capable of 5-shot one-hole groups like that

And on a scope without a jerkoff “posi-lock”

LOLOLOLOL

I might have seen that stuff. Is this it?

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

What, are you still alive you pathetic fat slob. I thought you would have ended it out of bitter loneliness.

Oh well, there is still time...all is not lost.

Damn you seem irritated. Did your overlords impose yet another freedom nullifying decree?

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Enough yippin and thread slidin from the Unarmed SLAVE from down under. Let's get this thread back on track.

Hey man, not sure if you saw, but the Leupold Mark 5 HD my buddy used to kill a once-in-a-lifetime Rocky Mountain Big Horn Ram tested PERFECTLY for reticle subtension values, PERFECTLY for click values, PERFECTLY for no zero shift with magnification changes

Same scope stick posted in this thread

Did you happen to see scenarshooter’s review of the same Mark 5 HD?

Al Nyhus would give his left nut for a hunting rifle/scope combo capable of 5-shot one-hole groups like that

And on a scope without a jerkoff “posi-lock”

LOLOLOLOL

I might have seen that stuff. Is this it?

Originally Posted by scenarshooter

So yeah, the gun and the scope are working pretty well....;)

This load was 2920fps...I'll try to work up a little more velo, as long as the groups stay good.

That’s it!

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

So ya got yer pizza joint shut down for the night, come here and insult people, ya pathetic Guido fαggot

Nailed it

No, we are rockin’ a beautiful Braised Veal and Chicken Cannelloni in Fresh Pasta with 2dogsfucqking sauces

Please Point to the doll where the bad Rick post hurt your feelers

Originally Posted by Mrs2dogsshagging

Right in my sand-packed vagina

You Centerpunched Nailed it

Mess with the bull you are going to get those horns. 2dogsFuckin found out.

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Originally Posted by JohntheliquorBurns

Mess with the hippo you are going to get ṣhit. 2dogsFuckin found out.

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What a dumb delusional fat f uck lol

Good evening Burnsy and Ricky

Merica

Aluminum

Cumaglia post a pic of microwave Stouffer's frozen food and Burns post photos of other peoples targets.

Childish attention seeking insecure inadequate behavior. Sad, but expected.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Only the Best have the Best gun bearers! Nice

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Aluminum

I have heard good things.

Needs more Al back through the grip and into the butt stock to be a player.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by JohntheliquorBurns

Mess with the hippo you are going to get ṣhit. 2dogsFuckin found out.

[Linked Image from i.makeagif.com]

What a dumb delusional fat f uck lol

Let's send Brother Burns some Ph balancing wipes

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Aluminum

I have heard good things.

Needs more Al back through the grip and into the butt stock to be a player.

I always wanted to be a player Burnsy...

Originally Posted by Mrsfukface

I must lie to myself and others to feel I’m important

Burnsy..... do you like my new tactical scope? Pros / Cons?

Thanks

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

[quote=6mmCreedmoor]Aluminum

I have heard good things.

Needs more Al back through the grip and into the butt stock to be a player.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I always wanted to be a player Burnsy...

Stick around.

We'll get you there cause you seem like an OK dude. Need to quit hiding behind a screen name as the first step.

Players don't hide behind screen names and shoot in front of others.

Originally Posted by bxroads

Regarding John's group, how many total rounds were fired at that distance and was it in the 40 mph wind? Such a group at 1790 yards with the stiff cross wind seems nearly impossible.

\

Originally Posted by Cinch

bxroads, I would say after 3 or 4 rounds to adjust his dope with a spotter John shot that group. And yes, that is a consecutive 3 shot group in the wind. With the help of the experienced people and the quality of our equipment, everyone including the beginners were making some great hits at distance in those terrible conditions.

I sure learned a lot on this trip. In those winds I would have never even went out to shoot normally. Between what I learned on this trip and the experience I gained, I now know that I can successfully make long range hits in those conditions. This trip was a great learning experience for all!

Originally Posted by bxroads

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Yes !

Originally Posted by BobinNH

Originally Posted by bxroads

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

bx John is for real and a great guy to boot....he was good enough to teach me a bit about hitting rocks at 1200 yards;not in Montana but in Wyoming last October....and that takes some doing.

I have seen John shoot,and have no doubt about his ability with a rifle

Originally Posted by bxroads

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

Originally Posted by BobinNH

BX: I'd say so....I mean it was definately portable.....not like a mountain rifle for sure,but if you slung t up you would have no problem transporting it.It was by no means anything ridiculously heavy.I'd say 10 pounds?

Guessing but I would say the barrel seemed like a #4 (?).

But no mistaking it was made to hit stuff at long range, and it did. I think the action was a McMillan.Comfy to shoot as well.....I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

Originally Posted by Cinch

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

Originally Posted by rost495

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

NICE shooting John!

Jeff

Still no request for an address to send the scope for evaluation

Weird since it would be free

Burnsy.... I do not hide form anything....

Burns been reposting that accolade hit parade all day long. Burns, you feel a bit taller after reciting that in front of a mirror?

Burnsy.... thoughts on these rifles?

Originally Posted by Mrsdoggiestyle

Burns been reposting that accolade hit parade all day long. Burns, you feel a bit taller after reciting that in front of a mirror?

Quote

Envy is an emotion which occurs when a person lacks another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other lacked it.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... I do not hide form anything....

Then post your name.

Seems simple, but it's scary for many.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Burns been reposting that accolade hit parade all day long. Burns, you feel a bit taller after reciting that in front of a mirror?

Feels pretty good.

I suspect you might see it again.

Feel free to post your 1 Mile+ shooting with 40 MPH winds in front of 24hr CF members.

It's be fun.

Originally Posted by rcumagliaHomoButtPilot

Originally Posted by MrWordSmithThe Great

Burns been reposting that accolade hit parade all day long. Burns, you feel a bit taller after reciting that in front of a mirror?

Quote

Pity is an emotion which occurs when a person has a greater than another's quality, skill, achievement, or possession and wishes that the other could achieve it.

Burnsy...... you ever shoot at these places? 40 mph winds is for pussies........

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy...... you ever shoot at these places? 40 mph winds is for pussies........

You're using my real name and hiding behind a screen name.

Who's the Puzzy?

You?

Originally Posted by JessG

Post up your “test results” dumphug! You show how heat affects poi, but not how “aluminum bedding blocks counteract the thermal expansion of scopes”, as you claimed. You are a lying, POS, obnoxious D’bag!!!#snakeoilsalesman!!!

You can’t back up your claims because they are BS! Prove it Wiztard! You are a liar! You are a fat, lying, obnoxious D’bag! Tricky Rickey, please keep trying to prove how relevant you are… it is comical. You are a D’bag as well. Lol

No flags Burnsy.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy...... you ever shoot at these places? 40 mph winds is for pussies........

You're using my real name and hiding behind a screen name.

Who's the Puzzy?

You?

You.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

No flags Burnsy.

No hiding behind screen names for the PLAYERS.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There’s no possible way more GAY could fit in this picture

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There’s no possible way more GAY could fit in this picture

Yes there is. If you and Burnsy were in it.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There’s no possible way more GAY could fit in this picture

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yes there is. If you and Burnsy were in it.

Still hiding behind a screen name like a puzzy while using my name.

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Yaeh!!! Yo let that Nyquil and Tequila Flow!!!! You are a pathetic D’bag!

Later Ricky and Burnsy. Assuming you will be spooning each other tonight.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

LOL.

You folded like all the internet Randos who hide while yappin.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

LOL.

You folded like all the internet Randos who hide while yappin.

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How big of a boy are you Burnsy? Think you can hang with me? I'll pay for your flight.....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

How big of a boy are you Burnsy? Think you can hang with me? I'll pay for your flight.....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

LOL.

You folded like all the internet Randos who hide while yappin.

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How big of a boy are you Burnsy? Think you can hang with me? I'll pay for your flight.....

LOL.

Keep hiding behind your screen name and acting a tough girl, Rando Internet Poster.

You folded like a cheap suit when asked for your name.

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Brother Burns

LOL

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

Originally Posted by John"3chins"Burns

Still hiding behind a screen name like a puzzy while using my name.

1. That's because you are incredibly stupid (let us not forget you also threatened to "hunt" people down over bump stocks)

2. Your name is worthless.

3. You a ɓitch.

This dumpy, Gomer looking f uck had the audacity to threaten people Lol lol lol. Dude couldn't get his sausage fingers inside a trigger guard lol lol lol

What a pathetic fat retard. Keep living off the past 3 chins, it's all you got and all you'll ever have.....besides high BP and diabetes.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

This dumpy, Gomer looking f uck had the audacity to threaten people Lol lol lol. Dude couldn't get his sausage fingers inside a trigger guard lol lol lol

What a pathetic fat retard. Keep living off the past 3 chins, it's all you got and all you'll ever have.....besides high BP and diabetes.

Actually, if you go back and look at the fat fuck's pictures you will see that he has tiny little girl hands...that creature has never worked a day in his life, which explains the 'I am better than you attitude'.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

LOL.

You folded like all the internet Randos who hide while yappin.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

How big of a boy are you Burnsy? Think you can hang with me? I'll pay for your flight.....

LOL.

Keep hiding behind your screen name and acting a tough girl, Rando Internet Poster.

You folded like a cheap suit when asked for your name.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

What airline do you prefer Burnsy?

Brother Burns only flies DXM Airway

Originally Posted by The 24hr Campfire Real Shooters

Originally Posted by bxroads

Regarding John's group, how many total rounds were fired at that distance and was it in the 40 mph wind? Such a group at 1790 yards with the stiff cross wind seems nearly impossible.

Originally Posted by Cinch

bxroads, I would say after 3 or 4 rounds to adjust his dope with a spotter John shot that group. And yes, that is a consecutive 3 shot group in the wind. With the help of the experienced people and the quality of our equipment, everyone including the beginners were making some great hits at distance in those terrible conditions.

I sure learned a lot on this trip. In those winds I would have never even went out to shoot normally. Between what I learned on this trip and the experience I gained, I now know that I can successfully make long range hits in those conditions. This trip was a great learning experience for all!

Originally Posted by bxroads

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Yes !

Originally Posted by BobinNH

Originally Posted by bxroads

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

bx John is for real and a great guy to boot....he was good enough to teach me a bit about hitting rocks at 1200 yards;not in Montana but in Wyoming last October....and that takes some doing.

I have seen John shoot,and have no doubt about his ability with a rifle

Originally Posted by bxroads

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

Originally Posted by BobinNH

BX: I'd say so....I mean it was definately portable.....not like a mountain rifle for sure,but if you slung t up you would have no problem transporting it.It was by no means anything ridiculously heavy.I'd say 10 pounds?

Guessing but I would say the barrel seemed like a #4 (?).

But no mistaking it was made to hit stuff at long range, and it did. I think the action was a McMillan.Comfy to shoot as well.....I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

Originally Posted by Cinch

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

Originally Posted by rost495

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

NICE shooting John!

Jeff

Originally Posted by The 24hr Campfire Randos hiding behind a screen name

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

The weather did indeed lay right the fhuqk down and conditions were rather exceptional. Hint.

So I set up a TTT at 50yds,hung a plum line,traced same and marked it in 5 Mil increments to 20 Mil's. 23 Mil's is all that remained after the 50yd zero. Zero'd turrets and went to shooting TTT. Prior to the first shot and for every one there after,I ran erector up until it hit 23 Mil's,returned to zero stop,whirled zoom selector high to low and then put in the requisite correction. Obviously aiming at the same point,for every shot. Hint.

Pretty fhuqking FUNNY,for a $2000 MSRP scope! Hint.

After doing same for (5) rounds at each erector setting,it was more than obvious that said scope was/is a steaming pile of fhuqking schit. Hint.

Those simplistic Facts hurt Tender Feelers and Professional Victims,who have a financial interest in Snake Oil Sales. Hint.

Doubly so,when a GOOD scope is returned to the World Class Platform and it behaves in accordance. Hint.

"Surprisingly" nary one of these Brokedicks Crying Kchunts has fired a Live Round,nor can they afford an example of same. Hint.

To be continued. Hint......................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ladies,

Feel free to quantify how many times a day,you think about me and why noone ever thinks of you. Then explain why my words are so much more powerful than your's,as you add stolen pics and emoji's to your Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

What in the hell is a hurt feelers report? Why do you think anyone would give enough of a fùck to turn you in. "RND" to help everyone not asking. LOL you gotta see the irony.

John and his boyfriend seem to fight you for the king of nothing title but it is still a tie.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

"Surprisingly" nary one of these Brokedicks Crying Kchunts has fired a Live Round,nor can they afford an example of same. Hint.

To be continued. Hint......................

The "Brokedicks Crying Kchunts" in this thread are squealing a lot and at a high pitch.

Where did you buy your "Demo" used MK5?

Brokedick Crying Kchunts spend a LOT of time "living" vicariously,while they fill out Hurt Feeler Reports,to vindicate their Professional Victim Status. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ladies,

Feel free to quantify how many times a day,you think about me and why noone ever thinks of you. Then explain why my words are so much more powerful than your's,as you add stolen pics and emoji's to your Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

What in the hell is a hurt feelers report? Why do you think anyone would give enough of a fùck to turn you in. "RND" to help everyone not asking. LOL you gotta see the irony.

John and his boyfriend seem to fight you for the king of nothing title but it is still a tie.

What’s funny is someone that actually reads all 100+ pages expecting a lot of scope info. LOL

205,000 views

LMAO

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

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Funny, I have a Leupold LPS, which at one time was one of their better lines, mounted on a very accurate 270wsm.

Needed to tweak the zero on it. 15 phfuucking rounds later, I got it where I wanted.

Got to the point where I adjusted, shot 1, then shot again just to see where it settled.

Never again will I buy anything Leupold.

Phfuuck that.

When I grow up I'm hoping I to can afford a house in a neighborhood in Alaska with a trailer to vacation in Wyoming.

PS I thought I once broke my dick, I took a 10 inch stroke and only only had eight, came back hard and I really thought she broke.

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

When I grow up I'm hoping I to can afford a house in a neighborhood in Alaska with a trailer to vacation in Wyoming.

PS I thought I once broke my dick, I took a 10 inch stroke and only only had eight, came back hard and I really thought she broke.

"brokedick" taint nothing to joke about.....

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

When I grow up I'm hoping I to can afford a house in a neighborhood in Alaska with a trailer to vacation in Wyoming.

PS I thought I once broke my dick, I took a 10 inch stroke and only only had eight, came back hard and I really thought she broke.

If you aren't careful, you will get pepperoni's disease

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

Because those that do have the same scope could not find a single [bleep] to give about stick or John. It's called having a life.

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

When I grow up I'm hoping I to can afford a house in a neighborhood in Alaska with a trailer to vacation in Wyoming.

PS I thought I once broke my dick, I took a 10 inch stroke and only only had eight, came back hard and I really thought she broke.

If you aren't careful, you will get pepperoni's disease

I'll take my chances.

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

Riar Rarry only believes himself anyhow, so facts wouldn't matter

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

It's would be hard to run the same test because sourcing a 3 MOA rifle is not exactly easy, but Congratulations to LiL Fish.

Next thing is that Tall Target Tests are a waste of time and ammo when one has the tooling/fixtures/collimator to static test the tracking and then the range facilities to shoot at long range.

It's obvious to everyone with a brain LiL Fish faked his testing.

I have extensive time using the MK 5 3.6-18X44 and it tracks perfectly in both static and live fire.

I litterally just put it back on the collimator after a few years of field use and it's still spot on. Saw that comin.

Holds zero. Tracks perfectly. FFP is not my favorite thing.

I much prefer the VX-6/5s for my hunting.

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

They KNOW better,than to try. Reupold is the wrong tool,for that job. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by hicountry

Funny, I have a Leupold LPS, which at one time was one of their better lines, mounted on a very accurate 270wsm.

Needed to tweak the zero on it. 15 phfuucking rounds later, I got it where I wanted.

Got to the point where I adjusted, shot 1, then shot again just to see where it settled.

Never again will I buy anything Leupold.

Phfuuck that.

Good lord amighty, what a gut wrenching ordeal that must have been ! I can't imagine the emotional scars it must have left. Are you sure you're OK ? Maybe some counseling would do you some good.

A repeat test:

Right before bed, have 8 shots of whiskey. Set your alarm for 10 minutes after sunup. Wake up with a bangin hangover, scribble a target on paper, and try to mount the scope somewhat level, even though there are 3 sets of crosshairs all spinning. Shoot as quick as possible to get done. Throw the rifle on the ground 6 times because you were forced to actually fire a primer (albeit just rimfire). Every shot feels like a boxing glove to the head. Pass out, wake up three hours later, and wonder how Leupold could have sent you a damaged scope. Try to remember which bender caused the third demise of the spotting scope sent back in pieces. Pass out again, and then post the "results" on the forum for the ignorant to drool over.

That is why the test has not been copied.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

It's would be hard to run the same test because sourcing a 3 MOA rifle is not exactly easy, but Congratulations to LiL Fish.

Next thing is that Tall Target Tests are a waste of time and ammo when one has the tooling/fixtures/collimator to static test the tracking and then the range facilities to shoot at long range.

It's obvious to everyone with a brain LiL Fish faked his testing.

I have extensive time using the MK 5 3.6-18X44 and it tracks perfectly in both static and live fire.

I litterally just put it back on the collimator after a few years of field use and it's still spot on. Saw that comin.

Holds zero. Tracks perfectly. FFP is not my favorite thing.

I much prefer the VX-6/5s for my hunting.

Burns - I don't know you beyond this site. Why, in your words, would Stick or anyone else spend this kind of time to say a product is a POS? I cannot find reference to him being compensated by a competitor so I don't see a financial gain. Is it simply to troll you and "your team"? I'm curious as to your thoughts.

There is a fair amount of commitment from both of you on this thread. Especially when it comes to the memes. I'm wondering what the upside is in documenting whether a particular scope works, or doesn't, unless someone is compensated for doing so.

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by bwinters

In 20+ years of being here, this is probably the strangest thread I've ever seen. I thought it might yield some useful information on scopes, tracking, abuse, possibly things to consider. Apparently not. Carry on.

There is good info to be found here. The problem is it's buried under garbage.

Good shootin'

-Al

I am slightly curious as to why those here with the same scope haven't run the same test to show results different.

Rick posted his report card. As long as there’s no recoil (up to and including .22lr) they apparently work great.

Originally Posted by Paradiddle

Burns - I don't know you beyond this site. Why, in your words, would Stick or anyone else spend this kind of time to say a product is a POS? I cannot find reference to him being compensated by a competitor so I don't see a financial gain. Is it simply to troll you and "your team"? I'm curious as to your thoughts.

There is a fair amount of commitment from both of you on this thread. Especially when it comes to the memes. I'm wondering what the upside is in documenting whether a particular scope works, or doesn't, unless someone is compensated for doing so.

As always, follow the money. At least one of the rump rangers is being compensated by Leupold.....

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Good lord amighty, what a gut wrenching ordeal that must have been ! I can't imagine the emotional scars it must have left. Are you sure you're OK ? Maybe some counseling would do you some good.

I don’t know about you, but when I buy something, I expect it to work for it’s intended purpose. A scope that doesn’t adjust properly is garbage.

Originally Posted by Paradiddle

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It's would be hard to run the same test because sourcing a 3 MOA rifle is not exactly easy, but Congratulations to LiL Fish.
Next thing is that Tall Target Tests are a waste of time and ammo when one has the tooling/fixtures/collimator to static test the tracking and then the range facilities to shoot at long range.
It's obvious to everyone with a brain LiL Fish faked his testing.
I have extensive time using the MK 5 3.6-18X44 and it tracks perfectly in both static and live fire.
I litterally just put it back on the collimator after a few years of field use and it's still spot on. Saw that comin.
Holds zero. Tracks perfectly. FFP is not my favorite thing.
I much prefer the VX-6/5s for my hunting.

Burns - I don't know you beyond this site. Why, in your words, would Stick or anyone else spend this kind of time to say a product is a POS? I cannot find reference to him being compensated by a competitor so I don't see a financial gain. Is it simply to troll you and "your team"? I'm curious as to your thoughts.

There is a fair amount of commitment from both of you on this thread. Especially when it comes to the memes. I'm wondering what the upside is in documenting whether a particular scope works, or doesn't, unless someone is compensated for doing so.

Paying internet influencers is a thing.

Love her or hate her LiL Fish has some level of influence. A few here would get in a bidding contest over a zip lock bag filled with LiL Fish shits.

I sell Leupold on my rifles so I have a vested interest in stopping out right lying liars. Lots of good scopes including Leupold.

LiL Fish has been given a chance to have a 3rd party test the Leupold MK 5 that caused her such struggles.

She has zero interest in letting anyone else have a look at that MK 5. Because she faked the entire test.

Athalon has a rep of paying influencers but so to many others. It's a way to advertise products.

LiL Fish got way out over her skies on this one. It's one thing to demo good results and another to lie to do damage to established brands.

This has long legs and the story is far from done.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

LOL.

You folded like all the internet Randos who hide while yappin.

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Yo Burnsy and Ricky..... do you spot any gay in these pictures? Have you ever shot here before?

Burnsy and Ricky.... which is your higher count 4 or legs or 2 legs?

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Good lord amighty, what a gut wrenching ordeal that must have been ! I can't imagine the emotional scars it must have left. Are you sure you're OK ? Maybe some counseling would do you some good.

I don’t know about you, but when I buy something, I expect it to work for it’s intended purpose. A scope that doesn’t adjust properly is garbage.

So long as a scope stays zero'd it'll do what I need it to. I know how to hunt and have absolutely no need to dial..

Burnsy..... where you at boy???

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

This dumpy, Gomer looking f uck had the audacity to threaten people Lol lol lol. Dude couldn't get his sausage fingers inside a trigger guard lol lol lol

What a pathetic fat retard. Keep living off the past 3 chins, it's all you got and all you'll ever have.....besides high BP and diabetes.

Burnsy... you are the epitomy of physical fitness boy!

God damn son! Pitiful.

Originally Posted by Blackheart

So long as a scope stays zero'd it'll do what I need it to. I know how to hunt and have absolutely no need to dial..

That is where I am at, but it is interesting to see how others operate.

Burnsy.... 500 yards. Almost like a 9 iron

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I've shot there.

And I'll bet $1000 that the old guy kicks my ass across the course. 😁

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I've shot there.

And I'll bet $1000 that the old guy kicks my ass across the course. 😁

He was a first class human being and shooter. RIP Gunnery Sgt.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

They KNOW better,than to try. Reupold is the wrong tool,for that job. Hint.

.

But yet you spent 2 grand , to tell us, that you spent 2 grand on the wrong tool.

OK.

That Lee Emery?

Burnsy.... do you know this guy?

Burnsy.... before it was called PRS...

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Burnsy... the greatest mathematician. Director of math Simi Valley.

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Originally Posted by Big Stick

They KNOW better,than to try. Reupold is the wrong tool,for that job. Hint.

.

But yet you spent 2 grand , to tell us, that you spent 2 grand on the wrong tool.

OK.

I was simply rooting for Reupold,more than they are themselves and can’t begin to fret R&D which entails less than a day’s wages. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………….

Yo Burnsy..... it must be genetic....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy..... it must be genetic....

Good for her.

How about you teach her to keep her finger off the trigger until ready to fire?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

It is fascinatingly HILARIOUS,how very often Whining CLUELESS Kchunts think about me,as they "live" vicariously in Brokedicktitude. Hint.

Reupold's puke easily and often.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I couldn't begin to guess how many tens of thousands of come-up solutions I've dumped into Leupie erectors...less issue.............

This one is an Instant Classic,for a multitude of reasons,which fly over most heads.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy..... it must be genetic....

Awesome pic Lap

Yo Burnsy.... knowledge is power son. 4.0 for 1st grade to Masters.

Yo Burnsy....

Originally Posted by wagner

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy..... it must be genetic....

Awesome pic Lap

Thanks Brother!

Burnsy.... where is your girlfriend Ricky at tonight?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy.... knowledge is power son. 4.0 for 1st grade to Masters.

Assuming that's the young lady in your post above.

Her teachers did a good job. Who ever taught her gun handling did her a disservice.

Only 4 rules and kids pick them up quick and happily under good training.

Your walls, TV, house cat, dishwasher, noggin can thank me later.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy....

That right there says everything I need know about you...you are a success!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy....

That right there says everything I need know about you...you are a success!

Raising a child properly is everything. Raising a child to be smart, respectful, and successful is what it is all about.

Thank you for your kind words.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Assuming that's the young lady in your post above.

Her teachers did a good job. Who ever taught her gun handling did her a disservice.

Only 4 rules and kids pick them up quick and happily under good training.

Your walls, TV, house cat, dishwasher, noggin can thank me later.

Even in public defeat you are churlish.

Good thing you cannot breed.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Raising a child properly is everything. Raising a child to be smart, respectful, and successful is what it is all about.

Thank you for your kind words.

You have as good a handle on it as any I have seen.

Burnsy, Ricky..... this is winning!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Raising a child properly is everything. Raising a child to be smart, respectful, and successful is what it is all about.

Thank you for your kind words.

You have as good a handle on it as any I have seen.

Momma is the rock of the family. Our true North.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Assuming that's the young lady in your post above.

Her teachers did a good job. Who ever taught her gun handling did her a disservice.

Only 4 rules and kids pick them up quick and happily under good training.

Your walls, TV, house cat, dishwasher, noggin can thank me later.

Even in public defeat you are churlish.

Good thing you cannot breed.

LOL.

The Unarmed SLAVE can never train her SLAVE child in the safe handling of weapons.

No wonder you revel in the failure of others.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... where is your girlfriend Ricky at tonight?

Brother, he’s treating the pizza den for roaches.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Assuming that's the young lady in your post above.

Her teachers did a good job. Who ever taught her gun handling did her a disservice.

Only 4 rules and kids pick them up quick and happily under good training.

Your walls, TV, house cat, dishwasher, noggin can thank me later.

Even in public defeat you are churlish.

Good thing you cannot breed.

LOL.

The Unarmed SLAVE can never train her SLAVE child in the safe handling of weapons.

No wonder you revel in the failure of others.

Burnsy.... you are a pathetic drunk. You still a big boy tonight or do you need more liquid courage?

Yo Burnsy..... I'm still good to pay for your ticket for a FTF with me.....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

The Unarmed SLAVE can never train her SLAVE child in the safe handling of weapons.

No wonder you revel in the failure of others.

Just a fat pathetic loser attempting to be relevant. You missed the boat and shall spend your remaining miserable existence alone and unfulfilled.

And if it were not for rick...unloved.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

The Unarmed SLAVE can never train her SLAVE child in the safe handling of weapons.

No wonder you revel in the failure of others.

Burnsy.... you are a pathetic drunk. You still a big boy tonight or do you need more liquid courage?

LOL.

I am not the guy posting pictures of unsafe gun handling by a kid who should have been taught how to handle a firearm long before some dumbazz handed her 2 for a silly photo OP.

Go hide behind your daughters good grades and success. Lord knows you look stupid talking about your rifles, optics, and shooting on shooting forum.

Brother,

If you post pictures of a bump stock, Brother Burns will point his MULE toward your location.

Yo Burnsy... I had my wife read this entire thread and summarize it.....

She said Burnsy is a fuucking turd....

Hey Ho

Burnsy the turd. Very fitting.

Yo Burnsy.... where is your biitch Ricky at. did he nut up?

You are too stupid to nut up.

Burnsy.... if you were FTF would you run your trap as such as you do behind the security the internet?

Where is your girlfriend Ricky at? Fish fry night at the moose Lodge?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

LOL.

The Unarmed SLAVE can never train her SLAVE child in the safe handling of weapons.

No wonder you revel in the failure of others.

Burnsy.... you are a pathetic drunk. You still a big boy tonight or do you need more liquid courage?

LOL.

I am not the guy posting pictures of unsafe gun handling by a kid who should have been taught how to handle a firearm long before some dumbazz handed her 2 for a silly photo OP.

Go hide behind your daughters good grades and success. Lord knows you look stupid talking about your rifles, optics, and shooting on shooting forum.

You look stupid because you are. Interested in a ticket Burnsy. FTF conversation would be great Burnsy. Bring your girlfriend Ricky too. My treat.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

6mm good quality men make guys like John and tic feel the need to pound there chests. Just enjoy knowing they are really trying to impress.

Brother Jimmypop.... Burnsy couldn't manage a hard on

Brother Burns and Brother Stick love horning each other up. Neither one is sharper than a tack.

Brother Burns is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Fun fact: brother Burns can eat eight happy meals a day.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... I had my wife read this entire thread and summarize it.....
She said Burnsy is a fuucking turd....

Hey Ho

LOL.

You hide behind a screen name.

You hide behind your daughter.

Now you hide behind your wife.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... if you were FTF would you run your trap as such as you do behind the security the internet?

Where is your girlfriend Ricky at? Fish fry night at the moose Lodge?

You are litterally an internet Rando afraid to post your name. But you do a good job of bumping this thread.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Burns is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Fun fact: brother Burns can eat eight happy meals a day.

But on the plus side, now that the jowls and chins have filled out...his billboard forehead is not as noticeable.

Also betting his special friend is loving those tiny little girl hands.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... I had my wife read this entire thread and summarize it.....
She said Burnsy is a fuucking turd....

Hey Ho

LOL.

You hide behind a screen name.

You hide behind your daughter.

Now you hide behind your wife.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... if you were FTF would you run your trap as such as you do behind the security the internet?

Where is your girlfriend Ricky at? Fish fry night at the moose Lodge?

You are litterally an internet Rando afraid to post your name. But you do a good job of bumping this thread.

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Yo Biitch Burns... I offered to pay your way multiple times., Who's the biitch Bursny?

Don't be scared Homie. How big a boy are you Burnsy?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... I had my wife read this entire thread and summarize it.....
She said Burnsy is a fuucking turd....

Hey Ho

LOL.

You hide behind a screen name.

You hide behind your daughter.

Now you hide behind your wife.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... if you were FTF would you run your trap as such as you do behind the security the internet?

Where is your girlfriend Ricky at? Fish fry night at the moose Lodge?

You are litterally an internet Rando afraid to post your name. But you do a good job of bumping this thread.

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BURNSY..... I'll buy you a first class ticket to destroy you....

Send me your info biitch boy

Brother Burns’ cheese done slid off his cracker

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Burns’ cheese done slid off his cracker

I can’t wait for this year’s SHOT photos of Brother Burns. What a big dick playa he is.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

BURNSY..... I'll buy you a first class ticket to destroy you....

Send me your info biitch boy

LOL.

My info is all over the net. Everybody knows who I am and where I am. You know who I am and use my name all the time.

You hide behind a screen name, tough Girl.

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Damn. Y’all need to get a life. About 10 pages since I looked

Been working my ass off at our club designing and setting targets on two 100 bird Sporting Clays courses

Still no tracking numbers from Alaska

Got a call and talked to Dogshooter, who used to reside in Colorado who’s been following the thread. He’s got a Mark 5 3.6-18 44mm HD on his bench and offered to send it for testing. Then posting the results here of his specimen.

I would rather test the scope in question, but will take him up on his offer and post results if the board would like more info on another scope of the same

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Damn. Y’all need to get a life. About 10 pages since I looked

Been working my ass off at our club designing and setting targets on two 100 bird Sporting Clays courses

Still no tracking numbers from Alaska

Got a call and talked to Dogshooter, who used to reside in Colorado who’s been following the thread. He’s got a Mark 5 3.6-18 44mm HD on his bench and offered to send it for testing. Then posting the results here of his specimen.

I would rather test the scope in question, but will take him up on his offer and post results if the board would like more info on another scope of the same

RCummula has entered the chat. Good evening Ricky. How are you? How can you be friends with Burnsy?

You seem to be straight up? What is your infatuation with Burnsy?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

BURNSY..... I'll buy you a first class ticket to destroy you....

Send me your info biitch boy

LOL.

My info is all over the net. Everybody knows who I am and where I am. You know who I am and use my name all the time.

You hide behind a screen name, tough Girl.

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Everybody knows you're a turd. PM me biitch
Don't be scared Homie...

You have a Brad Pitt infatuation Burnsy. You must be a homo....

JohnBurns is the real deal, regardless of what the clueless 24hr yapping squad believes and clings to to try to fit in with the “clique” here

That’s why.

Evidently you can’t read sign.

And you quiver when someone asks your real name

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

BURNSY..... I'll buy you a first class ticket to destroy you....

Send me your info biitch boy

LOL.

My info is all over the net. Everybody knows who I am and where I am. You know who I am and use my name all the time.

You hide behind a screen name, tough Girl.

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Everybody knows you're a turd. PM me biitch
Don't be scared Homie...

Scared of a puzzy afraid to post under her name?

Scared of a puzzy who hides behind a screen name?

Why would I PM a scared puzzy? You're to much fun out in the open.

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Yo Burnsy.....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

JohnBurns is the real deal, regardless of what the clueless 24hr yapping squad believes and clings to to try to fit in with the “clique” here

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

BURNSY..... I'll buy you a first class ticket to destroy you....

Send me your info biitch boy

LOL.

My info is all over the net. Everybody knows who I am and where I am. You know who I am and use my name all the time.

You hide behind a screen name, tough Girl.

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Everybody knows you're a turd. PM me biitch
Don't be scared Homie...

Scared of a puzzy afraid to post under her name?

Scared of a puzzy who hides behind a screen name?

Why would I PM a scared puzzy? You're to much fun out in the open.

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Only reason is you are a fa fuucking pussy who is afraid to accept a free flight to have a one on one with me biitch. Burnsy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy.....

It's really funny how you use my real name while being scared shitless to use yours.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Damn. Y’all need to get a life. About 10 pages since I looked

Been working my ass off at our club designing and setting targets on two 100 bird Sporting Clays courses

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

JohnBurns is the real deal, regardless of what the clueless 24hr yapping squad believes and clings to to try to fit in with the “clique” here

That’s why.

Evidently you can’t read sign.

And you quiver when someone asks your real name

😂😂😂

My offer extends to you Ricky. Come on Johnny and Ricky.., don't be scared homies... free trip to meet your maker

I’ve never seen Brother Burns this horned up before. I bet those little hands are shaking. 😆

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Only reason is you are a fa fuucking pussy who is afraid to accept a free flight to have a one on one with me biitch. Burnsy

You expect someone who is man enough to post under his real name to accept an invitation from an anonymous whack job to come visit him?

😂😂😂😂😂

Thanks,

Originally Posted by LRoyJetson

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Damn. Y’all need to get a life. About 10 pages since I looked

Been working my ass off at our club designing and setting targets on two 100 bird Sporting Clays courses

THANKS Brother.LMAO

BURNSY....
I
DID
NOT
STAND
IN
THE
FEAR
LINE

C 'mon boy.... do better biitch

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

My offer extends to you Ricky. Come on Johnny and Ricky.., don't be scared homies... free trip to meet your maker

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

JohnBurns is the real deal, regardless of what the clueless 24hr yapping squad believes and clings to to try to fit in with the “clique” here

That’s why.

Evidently you can’t read sign.

And you quiver when someone asks your real name

😂😂😂

Burns is a pathetic turd, and I am somewhat surprised you continue to ignore the signs.

Signed.

James Stuart.

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

Buuuuuuurn Zy

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

Based

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

David... really? Do you know me homie?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

JohnBurns is the real deal, regardless of what the clueless 24hr yapping squad believes and clings to to try to fit in with the “clique” here

That’s why.

Evidently you can’t read sign.

And you quiver when someone asks your real name

😂😂😂

My offer extends to you Ricky. Come on Johnny and Ricky.., don't be scared homies... free trip to meet your maker

LOL.

Internet Rando Tough Chic to scared to post her name is offering plane rides.

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Where we goin Rando Tough Chic?

Burns and his girlfriends Ricky are bitches

Do you feel relevant to the topic now?

Your only function on the fire is of a Court Jester

Congratulations?

😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

JohnBurns is the real deal, regardless of what the clueless 24hr yapping squad believes and clings to to try to fit in with the “clique” here

That’s why.

Evidently you can’t read sign.

And you quiver when someone asks your real name

😂😂😂

My offer extends to you Ricky. Come on Johnny and Ricky.., don't be scared homies... free trip to meet your maker

LOL.

Internet Rando Tough Chic to scared to post her name is offering plane rides.

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Where we goin Rando Tough Chic?

Burnsy.... if we met FTF would you say to me?

Let me know where to send funds for flight for you and Rickybobby

We will have fun

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you feel relevant to the topic now?

Your only function on the fire is of a Court Jester

Congratulations?

😂

Are you a Cuuunt? Rick?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Do you feel relevant to the topic now?

Your only function on the fire is of a Court Jester

Congratulations?

😂

It is kind of strange how you always come running to "defend Burns' honor"'
Does he PM you, text you, call on the phone ? Reach down and zip up?
Uncanny....your timing.

Lovers.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy....

That right there says everything I need know about you...you are a success!

Raising a child properly is everything. Raising a child to be smart, respectful, and successful is what it is all about.

Thank you for your kind words.

I couldn't agree more. Congrats to you both.

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

You do realize burns has threatened to kill people who were exercising their freedom, don't you?

You do know burns has suggested he was going to get info from Rick Bin to track down people who disagreed with him, don't you?

You do know burns has complained about people leaving bad reviews on his company, don't you?

You do realize why that would make people reluctant to put out their personal info, don't you?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

You do realize burns has threatened to kill people who were exercising their freedom, don't you?

You do know burns has suggested he was going to get info from Rick Bin to track down people who disagreed with him, don't you?

You do know burns has complained about people leaving bad reviews on his company, don't you?

You do realize why that would make people reluctant to put out their personal info, don't you?

Brother , you are just jealous of Brother Rick’s trophy case and Brother Burns being a big dick playa in the firearms industry.

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

You do realize burns has threatened to kill people who were exercising their freedom, don't you?

You do know burns has suggested he was going to get info from Rick Bin to track down people who rushed with him, don't you?

You do know burns has complained about people leaving bad reviews on his company, don't you?

You do realize why that would make people reluctant to put out their personal info, don't you?

You do know Burnsy and Ricky would be in a world of pain x 100 if they made a bad decision?

I'll buy the tickets Mano to Mano. Shiiit, i'm footing the bill and my wife is giving me stink eye. I showed her the thread and she said .. .. Poor ole Ricky Bobby

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are know quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

STFU BITCH. You Are a Cuunt

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Why are you sacred Johnny Biitch?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

You do realize burns has threatened to kill people who were exercising their freedom, don't you?

You do know burns has suggested he was going to get info from Rick Bin to track down people who disagreed with him, don't you?

You do know burns has complained about people leaving bad reviews on his company, don't you?

You do realize why that would make people reluctant to put out their personal info, don't you?

Rando Puzzy doing Rando Puzzy simping plus super schrill whining.

Can't make this stuff up.

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Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

You do realize burns has threatened to kill people who were exercising their freedom, don't you?

You do know burns has suggested he was going to get info from Rick Bin to track down people who disagreed with him, don't you?

You do know burns has complained about people leaving bad reviews on his company, don't you?

You do realize why that would make people reluctant to put out their personal info, don't you?

Key words were threatened?

Johnny boy..... do you want to threaten me? I'm buying boy...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

You do realize burns has threatened to kill people who were exercising their freedom, don't you?

You do know burns has suggested he was going to get info from Rick Bin to track down people who disagreed with him, don't you?

You do know burns has complained about people leaving bad reviews on his company, don't you?

You do realize why that would make people reluctant to put out their personal info, don't you?

Rando Puzzy doing Rando Puzzy simping plus super schrill whining.

Can't make this stuff up.

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Call Delta... I'll give you my Delta #. You and Ricky Boy fly free to your maker

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Yet you fail to recognise that you are almost universally viewed with disdain.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Why are you sacred Johnny Biitch?

You're using my name while hiding behind a screen name?

You could not a be more of a scared hiding puzzy.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Why are you sacred Johnny Biitch?

You're using my name while hiding behind a screen name?

You could not a be more of a scared hiding puzzy.

Bunsy Bitch. Pming you my number Cuuunt

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call Delta... I'll give you my Delta #. You and Ricky Boy fly free to your maker

I have not met you but I have seen your picture before...possibly on these fora?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Yet you fail to recognise that you are almost universally viewed with disdain.

Really?

We have to do this again?

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff that scope John markets has the hash marks on the horizontal wires,claculated to the particular load in a 10 mph wind.....we just kept shooting through those conditions and it worked pretty good.

Surprising how that bullet can fly down there,being blown so consistently over great distance, shot after shot,if conditions stay consistent..

Big "if", I know

Originally Posted by bxroads

What was the weight of Burn's rifle? Was it sub 10 lbs all up as are his rifles that he sells?

Originally Posted by Cinch

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

Originally Posted by Tom264

Originally Posted by BobinNH

.I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

He he he he.

Originally Posted by bxroads

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Are you a Cuuunt? Rick?

You have no idea how far out of your league you are.

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Are you a Cuuunt? Rick?

You have no idea how far out of your league you are.

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Yea boy

LOL

Originally Posted by LRoyJetson

[quote=rcamuglia]
It is kind of strange how you always come running to "defend Burns' honor"'
Does he PM you, text you, call on the phone ? Reach down and zip up?
Uncanny....your timing.

😂 They don’t call him “mouth hug Ricky” for nothin...

Originally Posted by qwk

😂 They don’t call him “mouth hug Ricky” for nothin...

What's more pathetic than an insecure putz keeping a file of people who have patted him on the back, so he can post it immediately to try and maintain some semblance of relevance?

And like his pictures, those post are probably 15 years old.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

You're using my name while hiding behind a screen name?

You could not a be more of a scared hiding puzzy.

Bunsy Bitch. Pming you my number Cuuunt

LOL.

Put your name out here in the open like a big girl.

Tell the class where you live. Explain why a known player like Rick or me should come to you to put on a shooting clinic.

How much can you pay for lessons?

Quit being a bitch hiding behind a screen name.

If you think I am calling some Rando # that comes over my PMs you might be in for a long wait.

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SENNT JOHHNIE AND RICK BUY MY NUMBER TO CALL...

C;MON RICKY BOBBY

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

You're using my name while hiding behind a screen name?

You could not a be more of a scared hiding puzzy.

Bunsy Bitch. Pming you my number Cuuunt

LOL.

Put your name out here in the open like a big girl.

Tell the class where you live. Explain why a known player like Rick or me should come to you to put on a shooting clinic.

How much can you pay for lessons?

Quit being a bitch hiding behind a screen name.

If you think I am calling some Rando # that comes over my PMs you might be in for a long wait.

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WAITING ON YOUR CALL RICKY / BOBBYT

DON'T BE A PUSSY / Be a pussy homie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call Delta... I'll give you my Delta #. You and Ricky Boy fly free to your maker

offer a 24pk of BudLight, and he’ll be boarding a plane asap. Laffin

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

SENNT JOHHNIE AND RICK BUY MY NUMBER TO CALL...

C;MON RICKY BOBBY

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

All go gotta do is call

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call Delta... I'll give you my Delta #. You and Ricky Boy fly free to your maker

offer a 24pk of BudLight, and he’ll be boarding a plane asap. Laffin

And a 24 pack of NyQuil, Brother.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

SENNT JOHHNIE AND RICK BUY MY NUMBER TO CALL...

C;MON RICKY BOBBY

LOL.

Rando # looking for attention.

Explain to the class why anyone would call an Internet Rando Phone Number from a poster hiding behind a screen name?

Originally Posted by LiL Fish watching me take her thread away

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Yet you fail to recognise that you are almost universally viewed with disdain.

Really?

We have to do this again?

You are a hero in your own distorted view, the rest of us see you as the pathetic fat turd you are.

I sent my # to Burnsy and he sends me a PM why?

Burnsy... call me

You know where tatorhead is. Why not go to him ? you guys can post up pictures and videos of your long range shooting competition.

Ricky.... don't be a cuunt. Call.

213,000 views

Thanks, Brother Burns

tHERE YOU GO..... TIMID AS FUUCK

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Yet you fail to recognise that you are almost universally viewed with disdain.

Really?

We have to do this again?

You are a hero in your own distorted view, the rest of us see you as the pathetic fat turd you are.

Dang, Brother

Call me me Ricky /Burnsey

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

213,000 views

Thanks, Brother Burns

Looks like a bullfrog in a spotlight.

Tick tock tick tock cuunt

cumaglia & burns are burning up the net trying to associate a name with the phone #

Yo Ricky / Burnsy

grow some balls

Calling Cuunt 1 and Cuunt 2 come in

Yo bitches.... call

Burnsy... that is a horrible picture of you. You lack discipline son

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Rando # looking for attention.

Explain to the class why anyone would call an Internet Rando Phone Number from a poster hiding behind a screen name?

Even tatorheads feet are fat. He has hooves instead of feet. Laces look ready to burst.

But give credit where due , seems he can shoot !

Straight up both have my number and won't call.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo bitches.... call

You know the best part...whenever someone does an internet search on the fat bastard or the company he works for they will be directed to this thread.
Bet that hurts the pocket, and he is doing it to himself...bonus!

Straight thinking Ricky Boy is the bigger Biitch. Bursny is a straight a drunk pussy

Burnsy Ricky.... call

A diet of cheetos and nyquil will do that to a guy. Sad.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Straight thinking Ricky Boy is the bigger Biitch. Bursny is a straight a drunk pussy

You think he is straight?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo bitches.... call

You know the best part...whenever someone does an internet search on the fat bastard or the company he works for they will be directed to this thread.
Bet that hurts the pocket, and he is doing it to himself...bonus!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo bitches.... call

You know the best part...whenever someone does an internet search on the fat bastard or the company he works for they will be directed to this thread.
Bet that hurts the pocket, and he is doing it to himself...bonus!

Strait up send my number to both
Crickets,

Cuunnts

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Straight thinking Ricky Boy is the bigger Biitch. Bursny is a straight a drunk pussy

You think he is straight?

F
A
G

with [bleep]

waiting on your call,,,, burnsey. and faulaa

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the Internet Randos DANCE"

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Straight thinking Ricky Boy is the bigger Biitch. Bursny is a straight a drunk pussy

You think he is straight?

F
A
G

with fagulua

One may be infatuated, but pretty sure t'other likes them younger.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

The board may get a laugh if you post yours.

🤣

Best he can do. Very Fraile human

call me Johnnie boy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSTUART

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

The board may get a laugh if you post yours.

🤣

Biitch be sacred. Poor Johnny and Ricky. Cuunts r Us

Burnsy / Ricky... why won't you call me?

I love Brother Burns and Brother Rick. So happy for their union and going public finally. Brother Rick is really loyal. Congrats

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Squirms,

You are sucking the wrong ass. Hint.

To be continued. Hint…………

Ricky / Johnny .... waiting on your call. Why are you scared?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

C
U
N
T

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

1982

Ol 3 chins really let himself go.....doubt the lard azz can even check the mail.

Living in the past because it's all he's got/will ever have. Lol lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by David_Walter

WAY back in the day John Burns and I used to comment on how a few of us, including Rick (rcamuglia), use our real names and don't hide behind screen names to throw stones.

Pull on your man panties and keep throwing spitballs behind your screen names.

That makes what you say so much more valid.

And to be fair there are more than a few 24hr CampFire members who are known quantities under their well known screen names.

It might come as a suprise to some, but Big Stick (LiL Fish) is not my favorite poster, but we all know who Larry is and where he lives. He does not hide behind his well known screen name. I think he is full of shit but he does that knowing everyone know who he is and where he lives.

Many, many others here on 24hr Campfire are known and their opinions are weighted thusly. Not everyone agrees but we all know who they are and their track record.

Rando Puzzies are subject to scorn.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Squirms,

You are sucking the wrong ass. Hint.

To be continued. Hint…………

LOL.

Larry you are a means to an end.

Thanks for posting my thread.

Let's see how the next one works out.

Love and Kisses.

John.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Ol 3 chins really let himself go.....doubt the lard azz can even check the mail.

Living in the past because it's all he's got/will ever have. Lol lol

He’s got Brother Rick, brother.

Burnsy.... Ricky.... where are you homie????

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Post a current picture you obese fuck.

6mm did.

Burnsy and Ricky..... yo tough guys, waiting on your call,,

don't be scared homies......

Burnsy/ [bleep].....

c'mon you delicate fuucks

Burnsy and [bleep] won't call

Burns: Don't hide on the internet.........bla bla bla...

6mmCreedmore: sent my number in a PM

Burns: I'm not calling some number on the internet......let me post some 30 year old pics.

LOL !!

You are the Wizard LOL !!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Post a current picture you obese fuck.

6mm did.

Post any picture SLAVE. Your Masters in Canberra won't let you but then you don't have any.

It's never not funny to listen to the whimpers of those without pictures gazing in wonder upon mine.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

LOL!

Yo [bleep] nuts... stop posting pictured
srom 1982

call me cuunt. you afraid cuunt

call me burnsy

Burnsy...... call me cuunt

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo [bleep] nuts... stop posting pictured
srom 1982

call me cuunt. you afraid cuunt

call me burnsy

LOL.

Keep the phone close as I am sure it will ring soon.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Post a current picture you obese fuck.

6mm did.

Post any picture SLAVE. Your Masters in Canberra won't let you but then you don't have any.

It's never not funny to listen to the whimpers of those without pictures gazing in wonder upon mine.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

wanna be.

call cunnt

why are you scared?

Originally Posted by LRoyJetson

Burns: Don't hide on the internet.........bla bla bla...

6mmCreedmore: sent my number in a PM

Burns: I'm not calling some number on the internet......let me post some 30 year old pics.

LOL !!

You are the Wizard LOL !!

Everyone sees it but burns, camuglia, and apparently David Walter.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

213,000 views

Thanks, Brother Burns

Damn! Is there even enough lace left to tie a knot? Even the ankles got cheetoed.

I’ll crop your feet out next t8me ,Brother Burns.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Post any picture SLAVE. Your Masters in Canberra won't let you but then you don't have any.

It's never not funny to listen to the whimpers of those without pictures gazing in wonder upon mine.

Here you go you fat fuck...all the pictures you want...again!

But you won't look will you bitch.

link to pictures for fat slob burns.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Post a current picture you obese fuck.

6mm did.

Post any picture SLAVE. Your Masters in Canberra won't let you but then you don't have any.

It's never not funny to listen to the whimpers of those without pictures gazing in wonder upon mine.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSLAVE

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

wanna be.

call cunnt

why are you scared?

Burnsy..... you haven't called me. You and [bleep] friend Ricky boy will not answer my pms or calls.

Why Johnny boy and Ricky [bleep] boy

call me..... you have my number cuunt

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I’ll crop your feet out next t8me ,Brother Burns.

Originally Posted by 6mmNeeds MORE

The phone will ring soon. Keep it close.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy..... you haven't called me. You and [bleep] friend Ricky boy will not answer my pms or calls.

Why Johnny boy and Ricky [bleep] boy

call me..... you have my number cuunt

You would look really odd with a big [bleep] lump on your forehead Johhnyboy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmNeeds MORE

The phone will ring soon. Keep it close.

call me cuunt

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmNeeds MORE

The phone will ring soon. Keep it close.

call me cuunt

you have my
number cuunt

The two internet rando tough guys Burns & Cumaglia turn out to be cowards. Figured as much.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

213,000 views

Thanks, Brother Burns

Damn! Is there even enough lace left to tie a knot? Even the ankles got cheetoed.

What happened to you Johhny boy

A new level of stupid every time I open this thread

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

The two internet rando tough guys Burns & Cumaglia turn out to be cowards. Figured as much.

The guys who post under their own names are the Randos?

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Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

What happened to you Johhny boy

Simple enough, they couldn't get a wide enough lens.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

The two internet rando tough guys Burns & Cumaglia turn out to be cowards. Figured as much.

Nether one has called me. Sent texts. CUuNTS

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

The two internet rando tough guys Burns & Cumaglia turn out to be cowards. Figured as much.

The guys who post under their own names are the Randos?

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by THE WIZARD "Time to make the monkeys DANCE"

Originally Posted by JSTUART

It is always memes or someone else's picture with you isn't it.

Is it really?

You re the dumbest and most desiccant cuunt there is

call me burnsy biitch

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is it really?

Post a current picture you fat turd.

Embarrassed huh?

Now we need Brother Burns’ boss to chime in here and say he’s fired. LOL

yo burnsy since you are a cuunt and wont return my call, you call me [bleep]

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

The two internet rando tough guys Burns & Cumaglia turn out to be cowards. Figured as much.

Nether one has called me. Sent texts. CUuNTS

Originally Posted by TwoDogsFuckin

yo cuunt.. call me

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Now we need Brother Burns’ boss to chime in here and say he’s fired. LOL

No need to, burns can't sell anything anyway.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Now we need Brother Burns’ boss to chime in here and say he’s fired. LOL

Never happen. Floor sweeps and chip pan cleaners are important business associates, part of The Team.

sent burnsy and [bleep] my number. neither one [bleep] cuunts will call

why is that burnsy

Originally Posted by WyomingArmsJeff

Hey John ya fat retard.

burnsey..... call me [bleep] fuucking c uunt puusy fuuck

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Now we need Brother Burns’ boss to chime in here and say he’s fired. LOL

Never happen. Floor sweeps and chip pan cleaners are important business associates, part of The Team.

Absolute bullshit...there is no way that obese sack of shit could swing a broom or bend down far enough to pick up rubbish

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

sent burnsy and [bleep] my number. neither one [bleep] cuunts will call

why is that burnsy

Post your whine for all to see.

If you whine good enough maybe I will answer.

Good Luck.

I see ricky boy bitch nutted up and tapped

cuuunts r us

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Post your whine for all to see.

If you whine good enough maybe I will answer.

Good Luck.

Posing piece of shit.

Burnsy? Ricky you are a [bleep] cuunnt

Yo burnzy and Ricky Cuunt... call me cuunts

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Post your whine for all to see.

If you whine good enough maybe I will answer.

Good Luck.

Posing piece of shit.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Post your whine for all to see.

If you whine good enough maybe I will answer.

Good Luck.

Posing piece of shit.

Yo Burnsy... you and your girlfriend suuck eachother off

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Shit boy...that pic is at least 150 lbs ago. Post a current pic.

Pretend you are rick and pose in front of a mirror...a really really big one!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Post your whine for all to see.

If you whine good enough maybe I will answer.

Good Luck.

Posing piece of shit.

Yo Burnsy... you and your girlfriend suuck each other off

Burnsy.... you and [bleep] hold your breath till you pass out.....

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

Brother Sitck for the win

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

You should let some one with a good rifle or proper testing tools have a look see.

It'll be fun and what have you got to lose?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

You should let some one with a good rifle or proper testing tools have a look see.

It'll be fun and what have you got to lose?

You should hold your breath till youbpass out

Repeat if necessary

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

You should let some one with a good rifle or proper testing tools have a look see.

It'll be fun and what have you got to lose?

Burnsy.. wannabe cuunt

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You should hold your breath till youbpass out

Repeat if necessary

Talking to burns is like wiping your arse...after the first wipe you know there is more shit to follow.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

You should let some one with a good rifle or proper testing tools have a look see.

It'll be fun and what have you got to lose?

You should hold your breath till youbpass out

Repeat if necessary

This path is not mentally heathy for you.

I hope you find a path to get better but it's not here.

I have the wares,budget and the skills,which is why said piece of fhuqking schit pales. Hint.

Will gun Trijicon Credo HX and a coupla NightFarces next. Hint.

Pardon the Splendors. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………….

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

This path is not mentally heathy for you.

I hope you find a path to get better but it's not here.

Probably needs a little more oxygen, you should stop breathing.

And before you start whining you fat slob...you started this whole fucking mess.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

And before you start whining you fat slob...you started this whole fucking mess.

LOL.

I use your dumb SLAVE azz to bump threads I want bumped.

Like any SLAVE you serve a Master.

You dance and squall at my beck and call because it's your nature.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

And before you start whining you fat slob...you started this whole fucking mess.

LOL.

I use your dumb SLAVE azz to bump threads I want bumped.

Like any SLAVE you serve a Master.

You dance and squall at my beck and call because it's your nature.

You don't own shit boy...even your name is synonymous with shit.

Okay fellas, I am bowing out for a bit as I have to mow the lawn and set the hoses.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

And before you start whining you fat slob...you started this whole fucking mess.

LOL.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I use your dumb SLAVE azz to bump threads I want bumped.

Like any SLAVE you serve a Master.

You dance and squall at my beck and call because it's your nature.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Okay fellas, I am bowing out for a bit as I have to mow the lawn and set the hoses.

Only 2 bumps, SLAVE?

Burnsy bitch you and fas boy Ricky Atiil haven't called me... Uuun5

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

And before you start whining you fat slob...you started this whole fucking mess.

LOL.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I use your dumb SLAVE azz to bump threads I want bumped.

Like any SLAVE you serve a Master.

You dance and squall at my beck and call because it's your nature.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Okay fellas, I am bowing out for a bit as I have to mow the lawn and set the hoses.

Only 2 bumps, SLAVE?

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Okay fellas, I am bowing out for a bit as I have to mow the lawn and set the hoses.

You know, "fellas" means 'men'...and since I think you are a bum buggering bitch I wasn't talking to you.

I'm simply a NOTORIOUS Short Shanker

and finally! the truth will set him free!

Stumpy must have not been sober once again, to let that sort of truth out of the bag...

Originally Posted by Seafire

I'm simply a NOTORIOUS Short Shanker

and finally! the truth will set him free!

Stumpy must have not been sober once again, to let that sort of truth out of the bag...

Hi Sea...what have you been up to?

Like you Crying Kchunts could “afford” a Custom Rifle. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!……..

This company (Dorleac and Dorleac) furnishes custom rifles that will make most men take pause.

They are my idea of a custom rifle...not the crap most pretend is "custom".

“Only accurate rifles are interesting “

Originally Posted by JeffP

“Only accurate rifles are interesting “

Well good for you, everyone should have an opinion. You stick to yours.

I’ve owned “pretty “ rifles from some pretty good and known makers. They don’t age well if you hunt them hard. Makes no sense for me to buy nice wood . I rather take a rattle can after a hunt to recondition if needed.

Originally Posted by JeffP

I’ve owned “pretty “ rifles from some pretty good and known makers. They don’t age well if you hunt them hard. Makes no sense for me to buy nice wood . I rather take a rattle can after a hunt to recondition if needed.

Pleased for you, we don't all have to like the same thing. For instance, I have a weakness for 50's era Brno rifles...and hopefully no one else likes them and the price goes down.

I also personally think the stuff burns hawks is crap, but am adult enough to recognise that others do not agree. Which is fine.

Morning all!

No call from Burnsy or Ricky...

You all have a good day!

Burns is probably "sleeping it off", snoring soundly on the cot in the back room.
Ricky is either trolling at the gym, or meeting with the exterminator.

Or who knows........

Originally Posted by LRoyJetson

Burns is probably "sleeping it off", snoring soundly on the cot in the back room.
Ricky is either trolling at the gym, or meeting with the exterminator.

Or who knows........

The health department is cracking down again. Something about an infestation...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Morning all!

No call from Burnsy or Ricky...

You all have a good day!

Morning, no surprise cowards won't make that call.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I have the wares,budget and the skills,which is why said piece of fhuqking schit pales. Hint.

Will gun Trijicon Credo HX and a coupla NightFarces next. Hint.

Pardon the Splendors. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………….

Please do! It would be interesting how your results compare to Forms.

Originally Posted by BCSteve

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I have the wares,budget and the skills,which is why said piece of fhuqking schit pales. Hint.

Will gun Trijicon Credo HX and a coupla NightFarces next. Hint.

Pardon the Splendors. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………….

Please do! It would be interesting how your results compare to Forms.

If only the companies he shills for and his preconceived notions would allow for an unbiased test.

Preconceived runs both sides of the street.

The wheels on the bus, go round and round.

My Vudoo could give a flying fhuqk,who’s name is scribed on the glass in it’s saddle. It’s simply a World Class bullet delivery system,without bias. Hint.

To be continued. Hint…………

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My Vudoo could give a flying fhuqk,who’s name is scribed on the glass in it’s saddle. It’s simply a World Class bullet delivery system,without bias. Hint.

To be continued. Hint…………

Love to have your cameras, drool, post more scenic shots, you have good composition, anthropomorphic skills not so much

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My Vudoo could give a flying fhuqk,who’s name is scribed on the glass in it’s saddle. It’s simply a World Class bullet delivery system,without bias. Hint.

To be continued. Hint…………

LOL.

LiL Fish has a Vudoo that shoots 3 MOA. They have to be loving this thread.

Tell us LiL Fish, where did you source this MK 5. Is it a ChiCom knock off?

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Good Afternoon ,Brother Burns. Good to see you in Stick's scope thread.

Originally Posted by Etoh

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My Vudoo could give a flying fhuqk,who’s name is scribed on the glass in it’s saddle. It’s simply a World Class bullet delivery system,without bias. Hint.

To be continued. Hint…………

Love to have your cameras, drool, post more scenic shots, you have good composition, anthropomorphic skills not so much

I am simply without peer,to the perpetual chagrin of Crying Kchunts the World over. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………….

Originally Posted by dvdegeorge

As the campfire turns…..

LMAO

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by dvdegeorge

As the campfire turns…..

LMAO

More like Real Housewives of the Campfire

Campfire fun back in the day when there were lots of shooters.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

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Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by huntsman22

Didn't stay to watch fights?.....

Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'

Nice shootin' Burns!

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

c

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

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Nice shootin John!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

Nice shooting, John!

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff that scope John markets has the hash marks on the horizontal wires,claculated to the particular load in a 10 mph wind.....we just kept shooting through those conditions and it worked pretty good.

Surprising how that bullet can fly down there,being blown so consistently over great distance, shot after shot,if conditions stay consistent..

Big "if", I know

Originally Posted by bxroads

What was the weight of Burn's rifle? Was it sub 10 lbs all up as are his rifles that he sells?

Originally Posted by Cinch

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

Originally Posted by Tom264

Originally Posted by BobinNH

.I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

He he he he.

Originally Posted by bxroads

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

Thanks, Brother Burns.

#thewizard

#224,000views

The plural of antidotal/testimonial is not data

Originally Posted by Etoh

The plural of antidotal/testimonial is not data

It's proof you are a liar when you claimed I won't shoot in front of 24hr Campfire members.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

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Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by huntsman22

Didn't stay to watch fights?.....

Fed cows, cleaned up some blown down trees, pulled the altenator from my pickup and had a couple beers with my brother who is flying back to Vegas right now.
Didn't make the shoot but at least I have a little better excuse than sleepy Sheridan.....laughin'

Nice shootin' Burns!

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

c

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

[Linked Image]

Nice shootin John!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

I was there too...

Very good shooting John, nice to meet ya... see ya at the next one.

I'll get more pics and some video posted up when I have more time... soon.. I promise !

Scott

Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

Nice shooting, John!

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Waders

1790 yds with your iron-sighted .30-30? You'd have to wait for aircraft to clear before you could shoot or you'd hit one!

Nice shooting John!

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by Cinch

Just got back from Glasgow! Had a great time, met some great people, saw some amazing shooting! Conditions were terrible, but awesome shots were made by all. I want to personally thank Pat and his family for their kindness, hospitality, and for putting this shoot together. It was great to meet fellow members and learn a bit about doping wind. Another thank you to John Burns for the tips and advice. I'm very much looking forward to doing this again next year!

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

Yes John, that looks like very good shooting...so tell us, what caliber and load?

I know John will answer too...

It was a 264 Win Mag shooting the 140 VLD's. Very solid platform !

Originally Posted by Bulletbutt

I know you guys are sorry I couldn't make it, but I had just put a new ivory bead on my 30-30, and the glue wasn't dry yet. Sorry; maybe next time.
Nice shooting, John.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff: John had the Zeiss RF bins,doped the wind(he and my rancher pal agreed on the vels and IIRC they called it at 10 mph....we were shooting John's 264WM and 140 Berger.

John made all the calculations and scope adjustments and all I did was shoot.Both my friend and I were able to hit once the wind was doped correctly.

I do not recall how many minutes off we held at that distance as I had never before shot that far,nor used that style of scope.But I was astonished just how far off you had to hold to hit.

My impression was that doping the conditions was far more difficult than squeezing the trigger (the easy part).I can understand why many LR shooters work in teams.

Originally Posted by BobinNH

jeff that scope John markets has the hash marks on the horizontal wires,claculated to the particular load in a 10 mph wind.....we just kept shooting through those conditions and it worked pretty good.

Surprising how that bullet can fly down there,being blown so consistently over great distance, shot after shot,if conditions stay consistent..

Big "if", I know

Originally Posted by bxroads

What was the weight of Burn's rifle? Was it sub 10 lbs all up as are his rifles that he sells?

Originally Posted by Cinch

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

Originally Posted by Tom264

Originally Posted by BobinNH

.I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

He he he he.

Originally Posted by bxroads

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

[/quote]

Just shootin don't mean [bleep], my grandma can do that, it just takes her longer.

Originally Posted by Etoh

Just shootin don't mean [bleep], my grandma can do that, it just takes her longer.

It's was not just shootin, my LiL Internet Rando without picture, was it?

It was hitting at LR in extreme conditions. A real test of Optic and rifle.

Originally Posted by bxroads

Regarding John's group, how many total rounds were fired at that distance and was it in the 40 mph wind? Such a group at 1790 yards with the stiff cross wind seems nearly impossible.

Originally Posted by Cinch

bxroads, I would say after 3 or 4 rounds to adjust his dope with a spotter John shot that group. And yes, that is a consecutive 3 shot group in the wind. With the help of the experienced people and the quality of our equipment, everyone including the beginners were making some great hits at distance in those terrible conditions.

I sure learned a lot on this trip. In those winds I would have never even went out to shoot normally. Between what I learned on this trip and the experience I gained, I now know that I can successfully make long range hits in those conditions. This trip was a great learning experience for all!

Originally Posted by bxroads

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

Originally Posted by Sendero_man

Yes !

Originally Posted by BobinNH

Originally Posted by bxroads

So this Burns guy and his rifles are for real? (grin)

bx John is for real and a great guy to boot....he was good enough to teach me a bit about hitting rocks at 1200 yards;not in Montana but in Wyoming last October....and that takes some doing.

I have seen John shoot,and have no doubt about his ability with a rifle

Originally Posted by bxroads

Cool! Then I'll bet it was the lightest of the long range rigs shooting that day. Awesome hunting rig!

Originally Posted by BobinNH

BX: I'd say so....I mean it was definately portable.....not like a mountain rifle for sure,but if you slung t up you would have no problem transporting it.It was by no means anything ridiculously heavy.I'd say 10 pounds?

Guessing but I would say the barrel seemed like a #4 (?).

But no mistaking it was made to hit stuff at long range, and it did. I think the action was a McMillan.Comfy to shoot as well.....I found new respect for the 264 Win Mag that day

Originally Posted by Cinch

I would say it weighs a little lighter than a Sendero. Barrel is slightly smaller. A packable rifle for sure.

Originally Posted by rost495

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

We had gusts to 38 MPH.

It was a rough one but we had a lot of fun.

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NICE shooting John!

Jeff

If you say so.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My $2000 Reupold doesn’t track,repeat or hold zero under 22LR live fire. Hint.

To be continued. Hint………..

You should let some one with a good rifle or proper testing tools have a look see.

It'll be fun and what have you got to lose?

You should hold your breath till you pass out

Repeat if necessary

Ok, that’s funny.

I see the children with little-men syndrome are still at it.

Originally Posted by Triggernosis

I see the children with little-men syndrome are still at it.

the human psyche is an amazing thing to behold.

So old pics and a shoot from what? 13 years ago?
Maybe something from 2023 that shows the rifles and scopes, not to mention the shooter still have the same abilities.

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

Originally Posted by Partsman

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

You haven’t posted a single one

For whatever reasons,all the storms and mechanical woes missed me. Stranded travelers everywhere and I'm happy to not be in that boat. A fair sized pile of Mail,but I don't see any NightFarces,though I reckon they are likely in Sister's crummy. New Accuracy International AT-X on the couch and I'll either load for it tonight,or in the morning. Have multiple bullet steering devices to shake out and hopefully this weather holds,to allow same. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Partsman

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

You haven’t posted a single one

Or a picture of himself working out to a forum full of men.
That was a little bit creepy honestly.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Partsman

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

You haven’t posted a single one

Nope, have the trophies gathering dust in the garage and my lifetime of targets out in the workshop, never felt the need to show off or brag on my successes, so there ya go.

Originally Posted by jackwagon

Or a picture of himself working out to a forum full of men.

But I think it moved.

Originally Posted by Partsman

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Partsman

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

You haven’t posted a single one

Nope, have the trophies gathering dust in the garage and my lifetime of targets out in the workshop, never felt the need to show off or brag on my successes, so there ya go.

Post away. Love to see what you accomplished

wonder if those two called 6mmCreedmoor?

Originally Posted by Partsman

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Partsman

I know I am a little shakier than when I shot in competitions in my 20’s and 30’s, but I also dropped weight over the years and am in better shape physically, so where are some modern pics?

You haven’t posted a single one

Nope, have the trophies gathering dust in the garage and my lifetime of targets out in the workshop, never felt the need to show off or brag on my successes, so there ya go.

You are so invested in the trophies and picture of others and beg for more content while providing nothing.

I am calling BullShit, Internet Rando SLAVE.

Ask Justin for permission to live and be thankful Justin still allows you to visit 24hr Campfire.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

wonder if those two called 6mmCreedmoor?

You seem horned up. I can give you his number?

No thanks. The invite was to you and yer, ah, friend.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

No thanks. The invite was to you and yer, ah, friend.

So you just want to wonder about it and fantasize. Got it

Congratulations on being as cuckoo for cocoa puffs as
The anonymous whack job PMing his phone number

LOL. Brothers Burns and Rick

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

LOL. Brothers Burns and Rick

I like your new signature gif .

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

No thanks. The invite was to you and yer, ah, friend.

You're a pretty sick fucker for egging on 6mmCM who is clearly struggling in his real life.

Internet Rando doing Sick Fucker Rando things.

Let’s go 6mm CM, Let’s go! Woohoo

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

LOL. Brothers Burns and Rick

I like your new signature gif .

Thanks, brother. Do Brothers Burns and Rick like it? LOL

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

LOL. Brothers Burns and Rick

I like your new signature gif .

X2. Hard to scroll past that's for sure. Well selected, Brother AOD.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by jackwagon

Or a picture of himself working out to a forum full of men.

But I think it moved.

🤣 good episode

Still waiting to see something from at least the past year, the pics posted show an out of shape person, yet all other pictures are of a young person, so this topic is pretty new, but the proof is of outdated accomplishments, so why none of the current shooting successes?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

wonder if those two called 6mmCreedmoor?

You seem horned up. I can give you his number?

At this point, we are all dying to know what it is. Just go ahead and post it on here.

Pards, I'm there with all you old fat fuucks.
(myself included, speaking for myself)

Originally Posted by BubbaG

At this point, we are all dying to know what it is. Just go ahead and post it on here.

That would be extremely bad form...as is offering to share it.

Originally Posted by Partsman

Still waiting to see something from at least the past year, the pics posted show an out of shape person, yet all other pictures are of a young person, so this topic is pretty new, but the proof is of outdated accomplishments, so why none of the current shooting successes?

Post yours. Put up or shut your yap

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

wonder if those two called 6mmCreedmoor?

You seem horned up. I can give you his number?

At this point, we are all dying to know what it is. Just go ahead and post it on here.

😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Post yours. Put up or shut your yap

He is not the one attempting to make something of old deeds.

We all grow old, it is just that some cannot accept that. Or have a vested interest in pretending otherwise.

Shit I should know, my joints and tendons creak worse than my floorboards.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

At this point, we are all dying to know what it is. Just go ahead and post it on here.

That would be extremely bad form...as is offering to share it.

Seriously? Have you been keeping up with this thread? Besides that, what kind of moron would send their actual number? That would be about as stupid as calling it. Actually thats more stupid than calling it.

Wish Nugget was here to help sort all this out.

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

At this point, we are all dying to know what it is. Just go ahead and post it on here.

That would be extremely bad form...as is offering to share it.

Seriously? Have you been keeping up with this thread? Besides that, what kind of moron would send their actual number? That would be about as stupid as calling it. Actually thats more stupid than calling it.

Our opinions differ.

And to be frank I would be shocked if burns shared the number...whereas I expect it of rick.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Post yours. Put up or shut your yap

He is not the one attempting to make something of old deeds.

Both of you have no deeds, old or new. Litterally both SLAVES and knowing your life will end wearing chains.

You're just internet rando SLAVES envious of those who have lived a life.

In your bitterness you strike out with ENVY at those who have lived.

One the plus side your Masters have allowed you to still view the 24hr Campfire so you may gaze at the life of a Free Man who can own Arms.

Cheer up and may those chains rest lightly.

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The only thing that could make this better is if John, Rick and Twig rode bicycles.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Post yours. Put up or shut your yap

He is not the one attempting to make something of old deeds.

Both of you have no deeds, old or new. Litterally both SLAVES and knowing your life will end wearing chains.

You're just internet rando SLAVES envious of those who have lived a life.

In your bitterness you strike out with ENVY at those who have lived.

One the plus side your Masters have allowed you to still view the 24hr Campfire so you may gaze at the life of a Free Man who can own Arms.

Cheer up and may those chains rest lightly.

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You are still a bum buggering bitch burns...and that is not going to change.

This is like a fight on a short bus

Originally Posted by BubbaG

This is like a fight on a short bus

And on Stick's thread...which will have him pissing himself laughing. Stick does like to own the game.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

The only thing that could make this better is if John, Rick and Twig rode bicycles.

In the buff, in a synagogue, on Easter, clucking like chooks.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

This is like a fight on a short bus

And on Stick's thread...which will have him pissing himself laughing. Stick does like to own the game.

Ditto that

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

The only thing that could make this better is if John, Rick and Twig rode bicycles.

you're the same class a piece of POS

too bad somebody in a booth close to Wyoming arms and burns butt [bleep] can't download a lot of this on a rolling video really close to the Wyoming arms booth at the SHOT show

Originally Posted by ldholton

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

The only thing that could make this better is if John, Rick and Twig rode bicycles.

you're the same class a piece of POS

Paul is not even in the same neighbourhood as the other three...no one is.

Stick pushes the buttons.
Burns blusters.
Rick fawns.

Originally Posted by ldholton

too bad somebody in a booth close to Wyoming arms and burns butt [bleep] can't download a lot of this on a rolling video really close to the Wyoming arms booth at the SHOT show

LOL.

I have good reason to believe this thread will be discussed in a few Booths at SHOT SHOW.

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What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

Yes, Brother Burns, stir it up at SHOT and return here with video and photo evidence of your conquest.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

Actually...I am pretty sure both can.

Maybe not comfortably...but can.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Yes, Brother Burns, stir it up at SHOT and return here with video and photo evidence of your conquest.

Evening all

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

You are a cum guzzling anonymous fruitcake that enjoys being slapped around by the accomplished

[bleep] hilarious

Afternoon.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

You are a cum guzzling anonymous fruitcake that enjoys being slapped around by the accomplished

Fuckqing hilarious

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

You are a cum guzzling anonymous fruitcake that enjoys being slapped around by the accomplished

[bleep] hilarious

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

You are a cum guzzling anonymous fruitcake that enjoys being slapped around by the accomplished

Fuckqing hilarious

Brothers Rick and Burns don’t approve.

#227,000views

Thanks, Brother Burns for making the Fire go around

I’m gonna PM the brothers my contact as well. #NWTF

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

What's relevant for Mr Sticks firearm and optic R&D is that he self funds it.

Must have a yuge cash reserve to support the R&D mission.

Living large in AK

I suppose those two NM & WY critics of Mr Stick have meager cash reserves to fund similar R&D initiatives.

You are a cum guzzling anonymous fruitcake that enjoys being slapped around by the accomplished

[bleep] hilarious

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

Heck, if you’re keeping score it’s like:

RC/JB————-6 6 6

24hrYappers—-0 0 0

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

You reckon. If you think that is cool then try to imagine working for either of those clowns...or Stick for that matter.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

You reckon. If you think that is cool then try to imagine working for either of those clowns...or Stick for that matter.

That’s funny. You imagine working for someone

Where people with talent and drive imagine being their own Boss, having their own business, and charting their own waters

Being a subject is ingrained into your soul

I pity you

the accomplished............Crazy Eyes & Three Chin

Note Crazy Eyes Shrine behind him, the twink

Originally Posted by Mrslikesabitchslapping

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

You reckon. If you think that is cool then try to imagine working for either of those clowns...or Stick for that matter.

Yeah, you wouldn't last long working for me building guns.

But maybe Rick would let you wash dishes, on a trial basis.

There is no chance you would be able to actually cook the delious food he serves or even wait the tables but if you really buckle down it's possible you could wash the dishes.

Do you have a Green Card?

Wellllllllll, I knew you don't like women, but I guess you having pooch porn is expected. You do horses too, dontcha.

Never be ashamed of what you enjoy twink

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

You reckon. If you think that is cool then try to imagine working for either of those clowns...or Stick for that matter.

That’s funny. You imagine working for someone

Where people with talent and drive imagine being their own Boss, having their own business, and charting their own waters

Being a subject is ingrained into your soul

I pity you

I have worked for myself, I have managed other peoples business, I have worked for wages. I have done menial work, I have worked behind a desk, behind a wheel, for government.
I have swept gutters, cleaned toilets, built roads, stacked bricks, shot professionally, served coffee, served food, served fuel, shorn goats, processed carcases, milked cows, cut wood, cut trees, mown lawns, worked on stations and farms, in factories, on lathes, picked lettuce, worked cattle on horseback, worked heavy machinery, worked security, bounced patrons, worked with explosives...been a roustabout, wool presser, shearer.

I am currently working on my house, in my time, on my coin...for me.

I have never ever disparaged another man's home or the way he earns an honest crust for his family.

I leave that to you.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Note Crazy Eyes Shrine behind him, the twink

That was before I had enough room for all the hardware. Finally have enough room for the Big Wins at least. All the little, local stuff had to go in the trash

Originally Posted by Rick making the Randos Dance

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

You reckon. If you think that is cool then try to imagine working for either of those clowns...or Stick for that matter.

Yeah, you wouldn't last long working for me building guns.

But maybe Rick would let you wash dishes, on a trial basis.

There is no chance you would be able to actually cook the delious food he serves or even wait the tables but if you really buckle down it's possible you could wash the dishes.

Do you have a Green Card?

I have enough money to not need work for anyone...but thank you for your concern.

As for building firearms for you...I stopped working with lego when I was a wee lad.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Yeah, you wouldn't last long working for me building guns.

Get otta here...you build guns? Gotta have a mechanical skillset for that craft. Get otta here

Bullshit artist, yes I see that

Twink post his vid of a shrine. Couldn't stand that BFF Burns multi post bombing his accolade list from a shoot years ago, was waiting for a que to post that vid

So proud, so proud, looky here

I look forward to your gun porn pics 6mm, unlike the pic the Twink just post.

Brother Burns is revving up.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I look forward to your gun porn pics 6mm, unlike the pic the Twink just post.

I feel uncomfortable

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Those dumb fucks haven't clued in yet...have they!

Originally Posted by alwaysatwat

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by alwaysatwat

Point to JohnBurns/rcamuglia

I am not playing favorites. They just seem to have the better comebacks.

Follow along BubbaG, next TTT Mr Stick posts up of the next up Leupold will have Twink & BFF apoplectic.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by alwaysatwat

The moms of the Internet Randos are mad because the hand lotion dispensers in the basements are bone dry.

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See right there, 6mm post up shooting pics, Burns & Cumaglia post up beatinthemeat and goofy dudes.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Great example of what not to do ^^^

Always glad to help

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Not this chit again, rkp been hashed here enough

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

See right there, 6mm post up shooting pics, Burns & Cumaglia post up beatinthemeat and goofy dudes.

Welcome change of pace. Both Rick and I like seeing pictures of shooters shooting well.

It's called content and it's what makes a forum strong.

Your pictures sure don't seem to be loading? Why are you a freeloading Rando gazing on the pictures of others but contributing nothing?

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Brother Rick. LOL

Right now you could drown a toddler in 2DogsFucking's wet panties.

Well played 6mmCM.

Maybe Mr Burns could post pics of the Wyo Arms rifles from the website, ya know, the fuzzy out of focus ones

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Welcome change of pace. Both Rick and I like seeing pictures of shooters shooting well.

It's called content and it's what makes a forum strong.

Your pictures sure don't seem to be loading? Why are you a freeloading Rando gazing on the pictures of others but contributing nothing?]

Originally Posted by Mrsdogscrog

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Burns could post pics of the Wyo Arms rifles from the website, ya know, the fuzzy out of focus ones

Which ones are those?

Twink, why not post pics of your rifle, and those closet ar15s ya got.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Twink, why not post pics of your rifle, and those closet ar15s ya got.

You must be having problems posting pictures. You can start a thread up top for instructions

Cool that you answer to Twink

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Twink, why not post pics of your rifle, and those closet ar15s ya got.

Not sure who you are referring to but you are still in the "Rando with out Pictures" class.

Any chance you're going to UpGrade your weak ass game?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I have to say those pants don't make your butt look big at all.

No Homo.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Burns could post pics of the Wyo Arms rifles from the website, ya know, the fuzzy out of focus ones

On the listing page they are fuzzy but if you click on the picture it comes up large and clear.

You piqued my interest so I took a look.

He is right burns, they are fuzzy on the original picture.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I have to say those pants don't make your butt look big at all.

No Homo.

Uh, ok, sure

You can use a photo hosting site like postimages.org.

It’s fairly simple and even you may even be able to do it.

After you add a photo to the site, then hit the weird deal that gives you the drop-down menu.

Then click on “hotlink for forums”

Then reply here and hit “paste”

You can do it!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Burns could post pics of the Wyo Arms rifles from the website, ya know, the fuzzy out of focus ones

On the listing page they are fuzzy but if you click on the picture it comes up large and clear.

You piqued my interest so I took a look.

He is right burns, they are fuzzy on the original picture.

You realize I really, really hate you being right?

Shall be fixed ricky tick.

Thanks.

You're still a grumpy dick which makes it worse.

How come the guy in the blue shirt is laughing? Lost pair?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

How come the guy in the blue shirt is laughing? Lost pair?

He’s filled with glee to be in the presence of a National Champion

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ah yes, A2 service rifle. Brings back memories of shooting prone mid-range at Racine and LaCrosse. I was not skilled, but watching the reserve guys from Fort McCoy shoot like machines was memorable.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Maybe Mr Burns could post pics of the Wyo Arms rifles from the website, ya know, the fuzzy out of focus ones

On the listing page they are fuzzy but if you click on the picture it comes up large and clear.

You piqued my interest so I took a look.

He is right burns, they are fuzzy on the original picture.

You realize I really, really hate you being right?

Shall be fixed ricky tick.

Thanks.

You're still a grumpy dick which makes it worse.

I am also fat, lazy, hairy, and balding.

But fair is fair.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

How come the guy in the blue shirt is laughing? Lost pair?

He’s filled with glee to be in the presence of a National Champion

LOL.

How many pairs can you lose and still win National Champion FITASC?

VZ24, 308Win 24" / Timney / Boyds / Harris / SWFA 10x42 I put together a few years ago. MagPhosphate Park finish. I prefer Park, easy to do, have my own setup. I do my own smithing, finish chambering.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Now we're talkin.

I wonder how much that guy charges to come to Wyoming during Elk season?

Bonus for the cigarette. Gives wind drift and speed.

Originally Posted by LiL Fish watching her thread get taken

6mm,

Now I can see why you average 67 posts per day.

FTR gun I built, PN 29" SS, 1:12, 3 groove Palma 95 chamber, built on Savage 110, Rifle Basic 8 oz trigger, made the stock, made the bi-pod, Weaver T-24, 20 moa Farrell base, shot 1/4 moa routinely. Won some local Midwest Regional mid-range, placed in state long range.

Wind and mirage <never shoot the boil if ya can>. Low budget shooting with the rock stars. Fun times back in the day.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

FTR gun I built, PN 29" SS, 1:12, 3 groove Palma 95 chamber, built on Savage 110, Rifle Basic 8 oz trigger, made the stock, made the bi-pod, Weaver T-24, 20 moa Farrell base, shot 1/4 moa routinely. Won some local Midwest Regional mid-range, placed in state long range.

Wind and mirage <never shoot the boil if ya can>. Low budget shooting with the rock stars. Fun times back in the day.

Very nice. The 110 is a great action

110, 6mm Creedmoor, zeiss V6

Black Ops and Tac Ops

Guy on the right lighter green shirt went on to join the US Rifle Team down the road. Dan Lentz. Sling shooters, F-Class Shooters, mostly local guys at RCLRC, Racine WI.

Those are some very nice rifles 6mm, thanks for posting.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Those are some very nice rifles 6mm, thanks for posting.

Thanks. You are welcome my friend!

You know, all of y’all would probably come across as decent human beings in person. There’s just something about the internet though, isn’t there? Lol

GrandBaby came running through the door,with a coupla new scopes. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Wish Nugget was here to help sort all this out.

Train tracks and methamphetamine is never a good combination. He was way too young….RIP Nugget

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

The only thing that could make this better is if John, Rick and Twig rode bicyclesunicycles.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That load works well for me too, but with Sierras.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I think it moved a little on that pic.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I think it moved a little on that pic.

lol

Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

Originally Posted by Deere_Man

You know, all of y’all would probably come across as decent human beings in person. There’s just something about the internet though, isn’t there? Lol

You do know that most of us are bored and occasionally like to annoy the shit out of each other...for instance...I don't honestly think John is a rump ranger. I do think he is a dick and deserves rousting now and then.

But so am I...so there is that.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Deere_Man

You know, all of y’all would probably come across as decent human beings in person. There’s just something about the internet though, isn’t there? Lol

You do know that most of us are bored and occasionally like to annoy the shit out of each other...for instance...I don't honestly think John is a rump ranger. I do think he is a dick and deserves rousting now and then.

But so am I...so there is that.

Word Brother.....

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Mr. 6mm Creed, I've been to Cali a few times, but I don't recognize any of your pics. I've been to Pala once, Coalinga twice, and Avenal a few times. Got any Bear heads?

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Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Hope the outcome is positive, drinking one for you now.
Enjoying your pics, some damn nice guns.

Pendleton, Castaic, A Place to Shoot, Desert Markman. Did a short stint in a rimfire match where the 84 Olympics were. Had back fustion so got into rimfire with my buddy who had brain surgery. Spend 4k for the rifle and him and took first and 2nd for the season and finals. Sold rifles after that.

No bear heads my friend

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

You were hanging with some Anschutz with a 10/22 clone, that’s no small feat.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You were hanging with some Anschutz with a 10/22 clone, that’s no small feat.

No.... I bought2 rifles from Hokey Kerns. Custom 40x with a Border Barrel and I bought my buddy the other rifle. Will dig up pictures.

Buddies had a Hall action. Just talked to him

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad. Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

From one competitor to another....I wish you all the best.

Good shootin'

-Al

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Hate to hear that Lap..hopefully the docs can get you comfortable.

Thanks for sharing the pics. Pretty cool

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Finally a prone sling rifle and a Anschutz in an Eliseo to boot!

Some of it's big brothers in 40X, Borden and Barnard flavors:

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Iron sights work well also.

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Mid Range and Long Range

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Big matches and small

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Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Best wishes here as well.

Damn 6mm, I hope you have a good outcome with the neck rebuild. At least you know what to expect after the scan results.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Damn 6mm, I hope you have a good outcome with the neck rebuild. At least you know what to expect after the scan results.

Thanks Brother. Rough road for sure

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Rough Life Brother Barnard. Thanks

Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Beautiful country.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Best wishes here as well.

Thanks Mike

Originally Posted by wagner

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Hate to hear that Lap..hopefully the docs can get you comfortable.

Thanks for sharing the pics. Pretty cool

Thanks. greatly appreciated

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Rough Life Brother Barnard. Thanks

Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I have some serious joint issues. My back issues aren't as bad. It friggin sucks. Hope this can bring you some comfort.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Rough Life Brother Barnard. Thanks

Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I have some serious joint issues. My back issues aren't as bad. It friggin sucks. Hope this can bring you some comfort.

Thinking trying cocaine and hookers!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Rough Life Brother Barnard. Thanks

Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I have some serious joint issues. My back issues aren't as bad. It friggin sucks. Hope this can bring you some comfort.

Thinking trying cocaine and hookers!

Probably be cheaper than surgeons and hospital bills…

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Hopefully they get it squared away. Back and neck pain suck.

Haven't woke up without something hurting since.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Hopefully they get it squared away. Back and neck pain suck.

Haven't woke up without something hurting since.

Damn brother....not good at all!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Damn brother....not good at all!

No. It wasn't. I was dropped 54' after a screwed up knot pass by a guy who knew better on an easy climb on Devil's Tower. Did Half Dome together without him killing me earlier that summer.

Still did Red Bull Crashed Ice in goalie gear 23 years later at 47 years old.

If you're gonna be dumb, ya just gotta be tough. 😁

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Damn brother....not good at all!

No. It wasn't. I was dropped 54' after a screwed up knot pass by a guy who knew better on an easy climb on Devil's Tower. Did Half Dome together without him killing me earlier that summer.

Still did Red Bull Crashed Ice in goalie gear 23 years later at 47 years old.

If you're gonna be dumb, ya just gotta be tough. 😁

Damn.... we both tough and dumb. I just don't have any quit in me. Drs ask me questions and I answer with real life events and they just shake their heads.

Yeah, it hurts just to look at those.

Don't take this wrong, but it's nice not being the one with the most jacked up spine.

Originally Posted by goalie

Yeah, it hurts just to look at those.

Don't take this wrong, but it's nice not being the one with the most jacked up spine.

Nope... we aren't winning any prizes other than who has the highest pain tolerance!

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

Oh crap, looking at pics, realized I had one of me and Ksmith from when I got to do the "Let's Play Hockey" announcement at a Wild game for veterans Day.

He'll expect apologies from all his doubters....

(Edit: no, that's not really Ksmith, it's a real SEAL)

Goalie
The only thing worse than nerve pain is burns.

Pain gets relative too. When I had myocardial infarction/ventricular fibrillation, b4 I flat lined I called that pain a 10/10

Today I would call it a 7

At no time during my heart attack did I want to die.
There are days with nerve/back pain I want to die.

Hoping the best for 6mm

The ONLY advice I can give is if 6mm is seeing an orthopedic surgeon, get a second opinion from a neurosurgeon , and vis versa

Originally Posted by JeffP

Goalie
The only thing worse than nerve pain is burns.

Pain gets relative too. When I had myocardial infarction/ventricular fibrillation, b4 I flat lined I called that pain a 10/10

Today I would call it a 7

At no time during my heart attack did I want to die.
There are days with nerve/back pain I want to die.

Hoping the best for 6mm

The ONLY advice I can give is if 6mm is seeing an orthopedic surgeon, get a second opinion from a neurosurgeon , and vis versa

I passed out twice in that basket during the 7 hours it took too get me down. Both times when they were moving me.

10/10 is that second before you pass out. 😁

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Nope... we aren't winning any prizes other than who has the highest pain tolerance!

Oh, I'm ok with you "winning" that one 😉

Has the neuro stimulator been helpful?

Originally Posted by goalie

Oh crap, looking at pics, realized I had one of me and Ksmith from when I got to do the "Let's Play Hockey" announcement at a Wild game for veterans Day.

He'll expect apologies from all his doubters....

Outfuckingstanding!

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Has the neuro stimulaor been helpful?

It did for a year. About like everything else. All short term results.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Nope... we aren't winning any prizes other than who has the highest pain tolerance!

Oh, I'm ok with you "winning" that one 😉

Hopefully this guy can help me

https://www.rasoulispine.com/

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.

Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.

Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

Burnsy... FUUCK YOU!

Proceed Mr. Burns

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.

Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.

Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Pretty cool pictures here 6mm. I thought this was just the normal belly aching about scopes. Great stuff. Best of luck with your surgery.

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Pretty cool pictures here 6mm. I thought this was just the normal belly aching about scopes. Great stuff. Best of luck with your surgery.

Thank you my very good friend!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Has the neuro stimulaor been helpful?

It did for a year. About like everything else. All short term results.

For what it's worth, Boston Scientific and Abbott have both made significant advances in stimulators for patients with multi level fusions.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Has the neuro stimulaor been helpful?

It did for a year. About like everything else. All short term results.

For what it's worth, Boston Scientific and Abbott have both made significant advances in stimulators for patients with multi level fusions.

Thanks. I have a Medtronic

My stim from BS was recalled……

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.

Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.

Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.

Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.

Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.

We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?

I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

2 week trial before permanent implant

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.

Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.

Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.

Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.

Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.

We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?

I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

HD glass? Do they use Nazi glass?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Rough Life Brother Barnard. Thanks

Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I have some serious joint issues. My back issues aren't as bad. It friggin sucks. Hope this can bring you some comfort.

Thinking trying cocaine and hookers!

Hookers are the easy button. Remember that we have a Pics or it Didn't Happen thread.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.
Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.
Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.
Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.
Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.
We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?
I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

HD glass? Do they use Nazi glass?

HD glass. I have to be careful here but if it was Jap (LOW) glass I would not be suprised.

I am litterally talkin out my ass but I suspect it's the same glass as VX-6/5 and MK 5.

I have not looked through one but will at SHOT SHOW.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.
Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.
Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.
Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.
Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.
We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?
I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

HD glass? Do they use Nazi glass?

HD glass. I have to be careful here but if it was Jap (LOW) glass I would not be suprised.

I am litterally talkin out my ass but I suspect it's the same glass as VX-6/5 and MK 5.

I have not looked through one but will at SHOT SHOW.

Nazi anything trumps Japs

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.
Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.
Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.
Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.
Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.
We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?
I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

HD glass? Do they use Nazi glass?

HD glass. I have to be careful here but if it was Jap (LOW) glass I would not be suprised.

I am litterally talkin out my ass but I suspect it's the same glass as VX-6/5 and MK 5.

I have not looked through one but will at SHOT SHOW.

Provide us a report on your recon mission.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Evening all. Drink up and we can talk [bleep] later. Getting a Catscan

Outlook is not good. Met with Neurosurgeon from Beverly Hills earlier. Low back needs fused from T10 to S1. Every disc in my neck is bad.

Titos and Modelo for the win tonight.

Damn bro. Previous trauma?

Here's wishing you well.

Rough Life Brother Barnard. Thanks

Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I have some serious joint issues. My back issues aren't as bad. It friggin sucks. Hope this can bring you some comfort.

Thinking trying cocaine and hookers!

Hookers are the easy button. Remember that we have a Pics or it Didn't Happen thread.

Roger that PB!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.
Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.
Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.
Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.
Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.
We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?
I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

HD glass? Do they use Nazi glass?

I have to be careful here……

I am litterally talkin out my ass……

Fixt

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Burnsy... where are you and your girlfriend Ricky at?

I am about to break up this pity party up and get this thread back on track with some shit talk.
Don't know about Rick as he shows when he wants.
Have you seen the new Leupold MK 4s? At least the pictures of the new Leupold MK 4s?

No. Post pictures and a summary please

Well Leupold just released the New MK 4.
Basically a MK 5 with a 4X zoom.
Priced quite a bit lower than the already reasonably priced MK 5 so the girls with LDS are in a huff because the MK 4 is going to change the PRS/NRL/Highpower game.
We have been talking about this all day. Don't they have internet in the CAT scan machine?
I'll see what pictures I can find but it looks just like the MK 5.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

HD glass? Do they use Nazi glass?

I have to be careful here……

I am litterally talkin out my ass……

Fixt

He was half way honest! Well played amigo!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Nazi anything trumps Japs

While this is not really the right forum for a history lesson you might want to see who gave up first in WW2.

Next you might want to see who makes the best high end camera lenses.

Then you might check out who is a better ally in the coming conflict with the ChiComs.

I like Jap glass because I can see all the way into the future with it.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Nazi anything trumps Japs

While this is not really the right forum for a history lesson you might want to see who gave up first in WW2.

Next you might want to see who makes the best high end camera lenses.

Then you might check out who is a better ally in the coming conflict with the ChiComs.

I like Jap glass because I can see all the way into the future with it.

German technology for the win. Opinions are like asssholes brother. I'll take the Krauts.

My only ally is myself

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

And the japs only gave up after the Germans helped us get nukes.

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

Well versed in history. Nazis had the best of everything except leadership. Great brainpower but chemically induce net result poor decisions and defeat..
The mind is our greatest asset. Don't fuuck it up.

Japs suck

Nazis all day everyday. Greatest brainpower and engineering. Suffered from poor leadership due to chemicals.

USA undisputed champions.

Originally Posted by WyomingArmsJeff

You’re not coming to SHOT, Burns.

Those two stupid countries made the USA what it is.

Yo Burnsy... where is your girlfriend Ricky at?

Just got done taking my Maxus trigger group completely apart. My reloads suck with an opening in the center of the crimp big enough to leak some shot during cycling. Shot gets lodged under the sear causing some ugly chit to happen

Back issues are the worst and I’ve had my share including surgery

Can’t imagine what happened to have to need everything fused from the thoracic on down

Best of luck

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

The Germans fuucked up because a drug induced fuucknut invaded Russia in the dead of winter. Poor decisions from modern chemistry.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

😂😂😂

The new Mark 4 looks to be awesome

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

😂😂😂

The new Mark 4 looks to be awesome

Have you fingered it Ricky?

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

The Germans didn't have to fight the Russians, they chose to fight the Russians. In fact, in the two years leading up to Operation Barbarossa, the Germans and Russians had signed strategic pacts to avoid conflict with each other. In a clear case of spreading one's army too thin, Hitler reneged on the agreements and sent his lambs off to slaughter in a Russian winter. Had he not engaged Russia, he would have likely won the war in Europe. That's what happens when you become meth head dictator.

*edit* Props to 6mmCM for posting the same correction before me...with less verbiage

Well, it’s not available so, no.

Reading the specs, it looks good

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuck me...I just finished teking down my shed roof and am pretty sure I screwed less in.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

I will say that when the Japanese commit, they don't stuff around.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Japs were a cult at that time in history. It took two fuucking big asss bombs before they submitted.
Germany always had the engineering. Japs were just hard headed.

America is the undisputed champions. Hoo Rah muutha fuucka

Best of luck 6mm’.

Originally Posted by SLM

Best of luck 6mm’.

Thank you SLM

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Japs were a cult at that time in history. It took two fuucking big asss bombs before they submitted.
Germany always had the engineering. Japs were just hard headed.

America is the undisputed champions. Hoo Rah muutha fuucka

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Japs were a cult at that time in history. It took two fuucking big asss bombs before they submitted.
Germany always had the engineering. Japs were just hard headed.

America is the undisputed champions. Hoo Rah muutha fuucka

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

USA is the greatest country
Germany has the best engineers
Japs are weird mother fuuckers.

Because Stone Cold Said so!

Japs and Chinese are weird mofos

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Japs were a cult at that time in history. It took two fuucking big asss bombs before they submitted.
Germany always had the engineering. Japs were just hard headed.

America is the undisputed champions. Hoo Rah muutha fuucka

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

USA is the greatest country
Germany has the best engineers
Japs are weird mother fuuckers.

Because Stone Cold Said so!

Stone Cold for President...

If you ever had a Chinese pizza you know how weird they be

Originally Posted by scottryan

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Japs were a cult at that time in history. It took two fuucking big asss bombs before they submitted.
Germany always had the engineering. Japs were just hard headed.

America is the undisputed champions. Hoo Rah muutha fuucka

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

USA is the greatest country
Germany has the best engineers
Japs are weird mother fuuckers.

Because Stone Cold Said so!

Stone Cold for President...

Hell Yea!
Ric Flair VP

Wooooo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

USA is the greatest country You are correct.
Germany has the best engineers You are not correct. See BMW
Japs are weird mother fuuckers. Maybe. See Toyota Landcruiser and LOW.

Because Stone Cold Said so!

I like a crystal ball made of Jap glass. Can see very far into the future.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

USA is the greatest country You are correct.
Germany has the best engineers You are not correct. See BMW
Japs are weird mother fuuckers. Maybe. See Toyota Landcruiser and LOW.

Because Stone Cold Said so!

I like a cyrstal ball made of Jap glass. Can see very far into the future.

I despise all JAPS. Spent too much time with those weird little fuuckers

Krauts for the win

Well does the new scope line have improved innards or typical recent manfacture Leupold adjustments. I personally wouldn't give 200 dollars for a new Leupold. I can buy other brands for much less that actually adjust as advertise and don't shift zero sitting in my safe. I don't trust Leupold anymore. I used to but they let me down too often recently.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

LOL.

Fighting the Orcs was hardly the Nazis biggest problem.

Patton could have taken Berlin if they had let him off the leash. He then wanted to smash the Orcs.

Both the Nazis and the Orcs were second rate, but the Nazis were a better grade of asshole than the Orcs and we did use Nazi tech to get to the moon, sort of.

It took Nukes to get the Japs to bend the knee. Gotta give them that. My understanding is that the nuke formed glass helped the Jap optics industry. I could be wrong.

Anyhow today is a different time and the Japs are pretty solid while the Nazis are not so much.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Japs were a cult at that time in history. It took two fuucking big asss bombs before they submitted.
Germany always had the engineering. Japs were just hard headed.

America is the undisputed champions. Hoo Rah muutha fuucka

The Japs are still a cult but about hard work and doing a good job.

The Nazis, according the AlwaysIndoors, just make poop videos she enjoys. I don't get it but it trips her trigger.

In the interest of full disclosure I did live in Japan for 3 1/2 years. While I don't want to go back I do understand why they get things done and get it done right.

We do agree USA is the King Of The Hill.

That why I like my scopes designed, machined, and assembled in the USA.

And...they do know how to get off of a airplane

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

They are both filthy nasty tiny wretched fuucks

Chinese people shiit on the street everywhere. Vile.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

No fuucking clue. Any idea?

Not my favorite scope by any means. But it works.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

No fuucking clue. Any idea?

Yes.

Nikons of that era were made in Japan.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Buckmasters were pretty decent for a hundred dollar scope. No more of them

Finnfire for the mother fuucking win Burnsy

Paul the owner off shooters forum caught me off guard that day.

Improvise
Adapt
Overcome

He is a great guy!

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Buckmasters were pretty decent for a hundred dollar scope. No more of them

They work and are very basic. After this video I had Lilja make me barrel, upgrade the scope which was non value added and got accused of buying the wins.

Most times less is more. Bling Bling is not the answer. Fundamentals trumps all

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Finnfire for the mother fuucking win Burnsy

Paul the owner off shooters forum caught me off guard that day.

Improvise
Adapt
Overcome

He is a great guy!

So dig deep and show us your Kraut glass.

I got time and this is my thread.

Zeiss all day everyday Burnsy

Kraut glass trump Jap glass.

Germans trump everything Jap

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Buckmasters were pretty decent for a hundred dollar scope. No more of them

I've had a Buckmaster on my '06 for 15 years now and it's still rock solid. It's the same first gen model as in 6mmCM's pic. (The second gen was basically a clone of the Prostaff scope.)

I like Zeiss glass. I have had them all and prefer German technology. Cost is not an issue with me.
Glass is very opinionated. We all see some different.

Personal preference. At aged 59, I'm not sure what is clear anymore.
You all buy what's best for you. I'll will the krauts. Fuuck the Japs

Originally Posted by scottryan

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Buckmasters were pretty decent for a hundred dollar scope. No more of them

I've had a Buckmaster on my '06 for 15 years now and it's still rock solid. It's the same first gen model as in 6mmCM's pic. (The second gen was basically a clone of the Prostaff scope.)

They are cheap and they straight up work. No bling bling

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Zeiss all day everyday Burnsy

Kraut glass trump Jap glass.

Germans trump everything Jap

I'd agree with that assessment, but for a few years Nikon was putting out some really good scopes for the money. It's a shame their country's political stance on guns wiped out their lineup.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Finnfire for the mother fuucking win Burnsy

Paul the owner off shooters forum caught me off guard that day.

Improvise
Adapt
Overcome

He is a great guy!

So dig deep and show us your Kraut glass.

I got time and this is my thread.

Mr Stick originated this thread, therefore it is Mr Stick thread

I've worked my entire life form 16 to the present. I was going to retire but did a solid for a very good friend the the agreed salary and a favor to him. That's how I roll. My spine is fuucked up 66 days from Sunday.

Chasing the latest and greatest is never good. Most often less is more.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Finnfire for the mother fuucking win Burnsy

Paul the owner off shooters forum caught me off guard that day.

Improvise
Adapt
Overcome

He is a great guy!

So dig deep and show us your Kraut glass.

I got time and this is my thread.

Mr Stick originated this thread, therefore it is Mr Stick thread

My bad. Big ups to to you and Stick. My bad. Reality checks are always welcomed my friend.

For the record, I like Mr. Stick also.

Burnsy and Ricky are solid too.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Zeiss all day everyday Burnsy

Kraut glass trump Jap glass.

Germans trump everything Jap

Currently my only Zeiss optic is a beat to shit 10X45mm LRF bino set.

They did those right. Lots of critters sure wished I did know the exact range and had not seen them through those Kraut lenses.

Still hold up well to the lastest as far a resolution, the LRF taps out at 1700yds which is not much of a handicap for my limited shooting.

Hanging on my neck.

We are all the same cat with different spots. But we are all one...

Mr Burns claimed it was his thread, not you 6mm

Nikon scopes I own/owned I swear make light. good early and late day scopes. Too bad PC did the brand in

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Mr Burns claimed it was his thread, not you 6mm

Nikon scopes I own/owned I swear make light. good early and late day scopes. Too bad PC did the brand in

I am humble. I claim nothing but my family. We good.

I'm running the Zeiss V6 series 2nd focal plane. Use what you eyes like.

Out for the night, move lotsa snow today, more coming down now, worn out.........

Have a good night All

Burnsy what barrel is on the Wyoming Arms ARs?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Out for the night, move lotsa snow today, more coming down now, worn out.........

Have a good night All

Sleep well. No snow at ground zero. Lots of snow in the Sierras.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Mr Stick originated this thread, therefore it is Mr Stick thread

Is it really?

Originally Posted by 24hr Campfire members who are not Randos nor Sockpuppets

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy what barrel is on the Wyoming Arms ARs?

Wyo Arms barrel.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Out for the night, move lotsa snow today, more coming down now, worn out.........

Have a good night All

Sleep well. No snow at ground zero. Lots of snow in the Sierras.

Same to you. Enjoyed the discussion.

Birds eye view from corporate jet

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy what barrel is on the Wyoming Arms ARs?

Wyo Arms barrel.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Out for the night, move lotsa snow today, more coming down now, worn out.........

Have a good night All

Sleep well. No snow at ground zero. Lots of snow in the Sierras.

Same to you. Enjoyed the discussion.

Cut or buttoned? I've had good luck with both.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy what barrel is on the Wyoming Arms ARs?

Wyo Arms barrel.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Out for the night, move lotsa snow today, more coming down now, worn out.........

Have a good night All

Sleep well. No snow at ground zero. Lots of snow in the Sierras.

Same to you. Enjoyed the discussion.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cut or buttoned? I've had good luck with both.

Button.

Hand Lapped after nitride.

Krieger cut does well

Button does well also.

I still have that Buckmasters. On a custom 280

I also appreciated the PMs with the kind words. Mucho Gracias Amigos

Like optics there are lots of good barrels these days.

Both types can deliver great results.

Originally Posted by scottryan

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Buckmasters were pretty decent for a hundred dollar scope. No more of them

I've had a Buckmaster on my '06 for 15 years now and it's still rock solid. It's the same first gen model as in 6mmCM's pic. (The second gen was basically a clone of the Prostaff scope.)

I had a Buckmaster 3-9 back when I was a poor college kid. Had it on a bone stock Rem 700 .17 Rem that was an absolute killer. A coyote splat'n SOB.

That was the only 'cheap' variable scope I have ever owned, before or since, that never changed POI when the power was turned up. It never lost zero and was even on cheap rings with windage adjustable mounts. 4 wheeler wrecks, horse wrecks, drunken TInman bad ideas, you name it. That scope was awesome. I upgraded to a FXII 6x36 after the 2nd barrel was done for and while I haven't had an issue with that Leupy, the rifle has also largely sat in the safe for several years, as I moved on to different rounds. I should change that.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Like optics there are lots of good barrels these days.

Both types can deliver great results.

Agreed. Barrels for the win. I have had lengthy conversations with Clay Spencer about accuracy.

The barrel is the central nervous system,3B;s

Barrel, bedding, and bullets. Period.

Then wind reading. The rest is math.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Originally Posted by scottryan

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fuuck Japan and China. Woooo

One might wonder where Nikon made the Buckmaster optic?

Any idea?

Buckmasters were pretty decent for a hundred dollar scope. No more of them

I've had a Buckmaster on my '06 for 15 years now and it's still rock solid. It's the same first gen model as in 6mmCM's pic. (The second gen was basically a clone of the Prostaff scope.)

I had a Buckmaster 3-9 back when I was a poor college kid. Had it on a bone stock Rem 700 .17 Rem that was an absolute killer. A coyote splat'n SOB.

That was the only 'cheap' variable scope I have ever owned, before or since, that never changed POI when the power was turned up. It never lost zero and was even on cheap rings with windage adjustable mounts. 4 wheeler wrecks, horse wrecks, drunken TInman bad ideas, you name it. That scope was awesome. I upgraded to a FXII 6x36 after the 2nd barrel was done for and while I haven't had an issue with that Leupy, the rifle has also largely sat in the safe for several years, as I moved on to different rounds. I should change that.

They be solid Mr T

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I also appreciated the PMs with the kind words. Mucho Gracias Amigos

Break a leg buddy.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I also appreciated the PMs with the kind words. Mucho Gracias Amigos

Break a leg buddy.

Cheers!

I do not want anything else broken. Cheers to you brother Sam.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Like optics there are lots of good barrels these days.

Both types can deliver great results.

Agreed. Barrels for the win. I have had lengthy conversations with Clay Spencer about accuracy.

The barrel is the central nervous system,3B;s

Barrel, bedding, and bullets. Period.

Then wind reading. The rest is math.

You do get around a bit. I don't know Spencer but he sure had a rep for accurate button barrels.

Barrels, throats and bullets are also math.

If you can't make the next barrel exactly like the last your just spinning your wheels and guessing.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Like optics there are lots of good barrels these days.

Both types can deliver great results.

Agreed. Barrels for the win. I have had lengthy conversations with Clay Spencer about accuracy.

The barrel is the central nervous system,3B;s

Barrel, bedding, and bullets. Period.

Then wind reading. The rest is math.

You do get around a bit. I don't know Spencer but he sure had a rep for accurate button barrels.

Barrels, throats and bullets are also math.

If you can't make the next barrel exactly like the last your just spinning your wheels and guessing.

I do, met and learned from the best. Did the same with martial arts many years ago. Learned form the best of the best in both disciplines. Shooting and Combat my claim to fame.

Never stood in the fear line.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Zeiss all day everyday Burnsy

Kraut glass trump Jap glass.

Germans trump everything Jap

Currently my only Zeiss optic is a beat to shit 10X45mm LRF bino set.

They did those right. Lots of critters sure wished I did know the exact range and had not seen them through those Kraut lenses.

Still hold up well to the lastest as far a resolution, the LRF taps out at 1700yds which is not much of a handicap for my limited shooting.

Hanging on my neck.

Very nice Burnsy.

Burnsy.. Wyoming Arms vs Wilson Combat?

Pros / cons?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.. Wyoming Arms vs Wilson Combat?

Pros / cons?

Gotta tap right now cause the -28 deg just got a hot water line froze.

It's pex so it won't pop but it's still anoys me.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.. Wyoming Arms vs Wilson Combat?

Pros / cons?

Got to tap right now cause the -28 deg just got a hot water line froze.

It's pox so it won't pop but it's still annoys me.

Stay safe Burnsy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Zeiss all day everyday Burnsy

Kraut glass trump Jap glass.

Germans trump everything Jap

Currently my only Zeiss optic is a beat to shit 10X45mm LRF bino set.

They did those right. Lots of critters sure wished I did know the exact range and had not seen them through those Kraut lenses.

Still hold up well to the lastest as far a resolution, the LRF taps out at 1700yds which is not much of a handicap for my limited shooting.

Hanging on my neck.

Very nice Burnsy.

After reading all the posts....in the end, the Nikon Buckmaster can do it all...

I see Stick's thread is winding down.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.. Wyoming Arms vs Wilson Combat?

Pros / cons?

Got to tap right now cause the -28 deg just got a hot water line froze.

It's pox so it won't pop but it's still annoys me.

Stay safe Burnsy

Back for a bit.

Plenty safe but out here the cold can reach the line to the instant hot water heater. Well water comes out at 40 degrees so it starts pretty close to freezing.

I got a lazy and didn't add a bit of extra heat on that line. It's all pex so it won't pop.

Got to have a few decent winter days to keep the Riff Raf out of Wyoming and we have sure had a mild winter right up tell now.

Deer were plenty active on the fields when I checked the other house. Not much snow just a bit chilly.

Drinking 🍸 vodka and licking 🦫

Damn, you boys take up smoking weed?

Everyone got down right pleasant for a change, must be the moon or the weather.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by dassa

Quick history lesson. The Germans gave up first cause they had to fight the Russians. The japs only had to fight the brits and Americans.

Well versed in history. Nazis had the best of everything except leadership. Great brainpower but chemically induce net result poor decisions and defeat..
The mind is our greatest asset. Don't fuuck it up.

The Germans actually had some of the best generals. The problem was Hitler believed that just cause he thought something was true, it was in reality true. Kinda like some posters on here.

Originally Posted by John3chinsBurns

I got a lazy

Who woulda thought? Lol lol lol lol

It’s nice of Jeff to keep a little heat in the shop even nights and weekends for you.

Originally Posted by johnn

Damn, you boys take up smoking weed?

Everyone got down right pleasant for a change, must be the moon or the weather.

Well, vitriol and spite take a lot out of a fella...even the best of us occasionally need a breather.

Morning all.....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Morning all.....

It's -6 degrees with light snow and winds honking 25-35 here. Just finished a pillar bedding job on a 788. Good day for a couple lathe and mill projects.

Good shootin' -Al

That is cold 37 in the Central Valley

Low 40s here. Light winds and temps warming into the mid 50s spells a bike ride.

-40 here. Good weather for scope testing.

-12/-35 wind chill here. Nice January day.

Originally Posted by pathfinder76

-40 here. Good weather for scope testing.

There's a new Sightron on the checker.

-Al

Custom CZ 17HMR

Kraut 22

Only rifle I wish I never sold was the AMT. Shilen barrel threaded to action, Jewel trigger, McMillian stock. Fuucker would shoot.

100 yards with the 40x 22

Shooting during that big station fire years ago. FD made us evacuate.

>22 matches were most fun. Lots of shiit talking and very good shooters. My buddy Bob who was police sniper.

Us and Burnsy now!

C'mon Burnsy.... I will get the others to like you...

Thanks 6mmCreedmoor. You are a swell fellow!

Bug killing at 100 yards

Big Red. 308. I think Clay Spencer built this

My good friend Billy Russell. RIP

Sako Finnfire

My uncle. Yearly Colorado trip years ago. RIP

The twin brother of the Sightron on the tester is what I have on my 30BR (shown). SIII 36X45ED model.

It put some pancakes on the table this season.
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It was on for the win at the season ending combination Group and Score event. This is the second year in a row for this win. The PPC toters in the Group portion really hate getting slapped around by a .30. This year, they had a friendly 'bounty' on me.

A new bullet die for the bullets I make seem to work pretty good......

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Well done Al. Beautiful rifle and shooting!

Calfee work of art. He was an interesting guy....talk forever on the phone

Susan and Cassandra reading a Burnsy and Ricky post

Susan and Cassandra reading everyone else's post

My daughter's genetic trait. Winning....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Us and Burnsy now!

Those damn things will steal the sea ducks you put down.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Well done Al. Beautiful rifle and shooting!

Thanks. My back up Sightron was on for the 2022 NBRSA Score Nationals.
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Finished 4th in the Grand Agg. It was really satisfying to be on the team that won the prestigious Ed Shilen Memorial Team trophy. One heck of a humbling honor.
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Painted Post New York Top 5 in the Grand. Another Sightron on top.
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Holmen, Michigan IBS Score Nationals. 100 yard National Championship win. And another Sightron aboard.
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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Painted Post New York Top 5 in the Grand. Another Sightron on top.

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Badass Al. Outstanding precision shooting!!

I want this rifle back bad. Fuucked up when I sold it. Paid 900 for it sold it for 2500

Father / daughter.... both damn good shooters

These monthly matches were always fun. The beginning of the PRS craze. Lots of shiit talking during the matches

HMFIC

Another regret....

My stint in the great state of Georgia

Texas stint

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That's what it's all about.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That's what it's all about.

Sure is brother....

Had Clay Spencer put a 22 magnum together for a Texas hunt

Father and I. Now he can barely talk due to alzheimer's disease.
.

Pack leader

Father / Daughter weekend together

Back to Texas

Y'all just stole Rarry's thread with real pictures of actual world class rifles and accomplishments.

Time to post more imagination and pretend scope tests, lies about life in general, and boasts of doing absolutely nothing of value

Recovering from first spinal fusion and did this for a while. Me and my buddy Gary. First for him, second for me.
Set club record with scores. Sold both rifles to a guy in PNW. We bought these from Hoke Kearns. I miss talking to that guy.

Prize was these cheap as medals. Real prizing was kicking ass at the good ole boys club. Gary had to help me up after every relay. Top notch friend for life.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Kids on horses, niiiiiiice

What’s the cause of your spine problems?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You need my son to make you a fire poker.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

What’s the cause of your spine problems?

Spondylosis. Born with it. L5 S1 was never fused. Then misuse of body kickboxing, powerlifting, wrestling, bar fights, bad decisions here I am. Mother and her brother had same spinal issues. I hope my daughter didn't inherit this. I'd wish it on noone. It is a shiity fuucking road for sure

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You need my son to make you a fire poker.

Hook me up with him

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Kids on horses, niiiiiiice

Indeed my friend

Talked with my buddy Gary last night for a while. He spent 6 months in Long Beach Memorial when he was in is 20s with spinal and brain leakage. We laughed and cried on the call last night. He use to pick me up at 4 am and drive me to the matches and I usually wreaked like scotch when I got in the truck. He'd roll down the window when he arrived and in Hank Moody voice he would yell.... [bleep]. Then he say how I smelled like scotch, drive me to matches and we would kick ass. Good ole days.

We did this for a neighbor. She had a wooden sign she hung from it in the stable

Originally Posted by goalie

We did this for a neighbor. She had a wooden sign she hung from it in the stable

That is badasss amigo

I think this was a custom Kidd. Fuucker shot good too. I shot .22s in between surgeries

Originally Posted by KenMi

Y'all just stole Rarry's thread with real pictures of actual world class rifles and accomplishments.

Time to post more imagination and pretend scope tests, lies about life in general, and boasts of doing absolutely nothing of value

Whoops... my bad. Hope he forgives me

Just since 2019

1-18-23 neck fusion C3 C4
Dr Janssen CSO

8-30-22 back fused Janssen

8-23-21 neck fused goodman Campbell Dr DePowell
⁹
4-22-21 shoulder surgery Camaleri

12-7-2020. Low back fused Dr DePowell

Spinal cord stimulator installation 8-23-19 Dr Schmidt

7- 12-19 spinal cord stimulator trial. Schmidt

40x with Border Barrel. Made a rookie me look good!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Looks like my 25 yard groups this morning 😁

We had a rifle team in high school. Anschutz rifles, spent 7th and 8th period 5 days a week shooting positional

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Looks like my 25 yard groups this morning 😁

Must be cold as fuuck up your way today!

Me with the brains of the marriage for the last 30 years. Woman is a Saint and very forgiving!

My uncle Paul . Passed from Mesothelioma. Bad spine also, numerous surgeries, hunting fool. RIP

For the pain folks on here.

My father's sport

The ole 1k yard egg shoot

A Light Varmint class 30BR I built. Panda with a recoil lug (pre F-Class Pandas). Sightron SII 36X.
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A Sightron 6X HBR on one of my Hunter Class guns. If the turrets look unusual for a Sightron, it's because they are.

Another Hunter class rig of mine. Scope is a heavily modified Leupold 6X42 A.O. with my own mods. Tracked like it was on rails and flawless return to zero.
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My Heavy Varmint 30BR with a Nightforce 12-42 BR series on top. Flawless tracking.
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That Leupold 6X scope is on here at the NBRSA Wisconsin State Hunter Championships.
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Won the 100 yd. and was R/U in the Grand Agg. Tom Hencken (to my left) shot a new NBRSA record at 200 to win the Grand Agg. That record still stands.
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Van Dyne again. Also in the pic is a very well respected competitor and hunter that used to post here. Damn shame as he's the real deal.
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This is a late '70's sleeved 722 that won quite a bit in the Northwest, including the Sniper King Challenge. A pal ended up with it and I did a full rehab on the entire gun. It was featured in an article in Precision Rifleman Magazine in 2021.
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All beautiful Al. That carbon fiber one is a sexy biitch!

Good shooting also!

43 epidurals over the years. Short term relief

I’m dealing with spine issues now at 65 based on dumbass choices when younger, and an accident in Iraq.

Not for the faint of heart.

I’ve been looking for exercise’s to strengthen my lower back, but the bones and disks are never going to heal.

Is you have suggestions, I’m all ears.

Originally Posted by David_Walter

I’m dealing with spine issues now at 65 based on dumbass choices when younger, and an accident in Iraq.

Not for the faint of heart.

I’ve been looking for exercise’s to strengthen my lower back, but the bones and disks are never going to heal.

Is you have suggestions, I’m all ears.

Sorry to hear because it truly a sucks and a shiitty way to got through life.

They key is the core of your body. Lots of ab work to keep stomach muscles strong and and to keep the stomach and from bulging out and putting stress on the spins. Focus the hamstrings and hip flexors. Tight hamstrings and hip flexors stress the low back. Hydrate... water is the bodies friend. Walk alot also.

Originally Posted by David_Walter

I’m dealing with spine issues now at 65 based on dumbass choices when younger, and an accident in Iraq.

Not for the faint of heart.

I’ve been looking for exercise’s to strengthen my lower back, but the bones and disks are never going to heal.

Is you have suggestions, I’m all ears.

Speaking with a forked tongue, I can do this and my back still fuucking hurts!

Speaking with a forked tongue, I can do this and my back still fuucking hurts! I stretch and it goes right back to a state of muscle spasm. I found drinking, gambling, and humping works best for me!

Drink, Gamble, and Hump!!

Prime momma and I. Prime free now....

A day at the beach....

Birdseye of Gary's winning Hall rifle

Tuners are a must

6 creed, I am enjoying some of these pics. Some could use a little context.

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

6 creed, I am enjoying some of these pics. Some could use a little context.

What would you like to know?

My life in a nut shell. Human pin cushion

Ones legacy in life. Mentoring the up and comers....

I had just finished this one up before Christmas one year. My late wife wrapped it up and put it under the tree.

Whackin' 'dogs in Wyoming with pals Randy Robinett and 'Humble' Henry Rivers. Humble drove here from South Carolina and was not disappointed. I wanted to make sure he knew which way the knobs turned West of the Missouri River.

We even got in on a triceratops dig.
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One day, we did 'one and out' shooting. No range finders, one shot. Prone or bipod, no rests. If you miss, the next guy gets a turn. I ended up with the longest shot that day with 'Bubble Gum'...a 222 with Nosler 40 gr. Tips. Winds were 18-22, yardage was 422 measured after with a Leica. Scope is a Leupold 8.5-25 with a 1/2" dot. Parallax correction was miserable but workable.
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Sleeved 700 in 30BR that I rehabbed in early 2023. Stock work included laying in some carbon fiber on the bottom of the fore end. Scope is a seldom seen fixed 36X Nikon Monarch that's killer good. With my 125's, it seems like it wants to shoot. There's a little 'weather report' on the 5 shot group that took it from a pretty flat .100 to a .150.
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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

I had just finished this one up before Christmas one year. My late wife wrapped it up and put it under the tree.

Whackin' 'dogs in Wyoming with pals Randy Robinett and 'Humble' Henry Rivers. Humble drove here from South Carolina and was not disappointed. I wanted to make sure he knew which way the knobs turned West of the Missouri River.

We even got in on a triceratops dig.
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One day, we did 'one and out' shooting. No range finders, one shot. Prone or bipod, no rests. If you miss, the next guy gets a turn. I ended up with the longest shot that day with 'Bubble Gum'...a 222 with Nosler 40 gr. Tips. Winds were 18-22, yardage was 422 measured after with a Leica. Scope is a Leupold 8.5-25 with a 1/2" dot. Parallax correction was miserable but workable.
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Sleeved 700 in 30BR that I rehabbed in early 2023. Stock work included laying in some carbon fiber on the bottom of the fore end. Scope is a seldom seen fixed 36X Nikon Monarch that's killer good. With my 125's, it seems like it wants to shoot. There's a little 'weather report' on the 5 shot group that took it from a pretty flat .100 to a .150.
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Great pictures Al. You have top shelf equipment. Sorry about your wife. I couldn't function with out mine.

Best Mai Tais Don the Beachcomber. Now out of business. Miss that place

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ones legacy in life. Mentoring the up and comers....

That's the good stuff, isn't it?

Go big or go home!

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ones legacy in life. Mentoring the up and comers....

That's the good stuff, isn't it?

What life is all about my friend. Giving back and helping the good up and comers.

Had this on my front door.

Morning busy. 6mm your uncle's bucks were they all killed around his home? I am guessing he lived near your homeplace. Enjoy this thread very much. Hang in there.

Neighbors liked having me around.

Mr Dave has it down

I have 6 7 8 fused,might have to get si joint done were lower spine & hip come together, feels like the left nut is in a vice . back probs. suck big time.

West Texas

Originally Posted by 44mc

I have 6 7 8 fused,might have to get si joint done were lower spine & hip come together, feels like the left nut is in a vice . back probs. suck big time.

Sorry to hear. Rough road for sure. Stay strong my friend!

He let us shoot his full auto later that night around the campfire and a big steak dinner.

Next door neighbor Tracy's Birthday at Dons

Nice pics Creed, but I don't see any rifles laying in a creek next to a snot rocket, lol.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Just since 2019

1-18-23 neck fusion C3 C4
Dr Janssen CSO

8-30-22 back fused Janssen

8-23-21 neck fused goodman Campbell Dr DePowell
⁹
4-22-21 shoulder surgery Camaleri

12-7-2020. Low back fused Dr DePowell

Spinal cord stimulator installation 8-23-19 Dr Schmidt

7- 12-19 spinal cord stimulator trial. Schmidt

Geez, feel for ya bud.

Originally Posted by WYcoyote

Nice pics Creed, but I don't see any rifles laying in a creek next to a snot rocket, lol.

Thanks. I can assure I have none of those. Firearms are like fine art to me. Respect them...

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Just since 2019

1-18-23 neck fusion C3 C4
Dr Janssen CSO

8-30-22 back fused Janssen

8-23-21 neck fused goodman Campbell Dr DePowell
⁹
4-22-21 shoulder surgery Camaleri

12-7-2020. Low back fused Dr DePowell

Spinal cord stimulator installation 8-23-19 Dr Schmidt

7- 12-19 spinal cord stimulator trial. Schmidt

Geez, feel for ya bud.

Appreciate. It is what it is. It does suck.

Buddy John's lovely sister and parents. He just passed from dementia also

One next to my wife got hit and killed by a drunk driver not long after this picture was taken.

Brother John's momma and sister.

Kimo choking out John

Splitting a .22 bullet via a machete

Bill and I had some very in depth phone calls. Eccentric Bill as I called him.

Rainy day shooting spent with the Simi Valley Director of Math Wizard. He was handy to have as he figured out my DOPE calls.

My good friends Kevin Reyes and Dave Meneketti

Ole Zade. RIP

Bob White special 6br I think

LEGENDARY Hart 12". Hint.

Amongst my Top (3) 500yd Egg Rifles,though all is against same. Hint.............

The ole fiddy two

Morning Stick!

Back when Reupold made scopes. Hint.

Never had a bad MK4 M3. Hint...........

Stopped in to see JJ. Him and Sandra lived close to us. Good people. First met them at a gas station Seal Beach

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Back when Reupold made scopes. Hint.

Never had a bad MK4 M3. Hint...........

Wonder if the quality declined when Brother Burns came aboard. Is he the root cause it all?

She has less than zero input. Hint.............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

She has less than zero input. Hint.............

Not surprised....

Burnsey's wallet

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There's a West Coast scoot with a broken bottom end sitting about 5 minutes from me. The owner got so pizzed that he pushed it outside and that's where it's been sitting for 3 years...rain, snow, heat and cold. I stopped a couple times inquiring about buying it. The reception was...shall we say...chilly.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There's a West Coast scoot with a broken bottom end sitting about 5 minutes from me. The owner got so pizzed that he pushed it outside and that's where it's been sitting for 3 years...rain, snow, heat and cold. I stopped a couple times inquiring about buying it. The reception was...shall we say...chilly.

Hahaha. The man holds a grudge!

For shiits and giggles I put a tuner on a factory Weatherby

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There's a West Coast scoot with a broken bottom end sitting about 5 minutes from me. The owner got so pizzed that he pushed it outside and that's where it's been sitting for 3 years...rain, snow, heat and cold. I stopped a couple times inquiring about buying it. The reception was...shall we say...chilly.

Hahaha. The man holds a grudge!

'Ya think??? !!!

I think that may be a ruepold on this one. Could be wrong...

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

There's a West Coast scoot with a broken bottom end sitting about 5 minutes from me. The owner got so pizzed that he pushed it outside and that's where it's been sitting for 3 years...rain, snow, heat and cold. I stopped a couple times inquiring about buying it. The reception was...shall we say...chilly.

Hahaha. The man holds a grudge!

'Ya think??? !!!

Sho do my friend!

A killing machine. Most neighbors wouldn't walk by our house. They crossed over

My 'day job':
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Do a fair amount of fab work like this throttle linkage:
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Combination 'chute strap and push bar quick release:
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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

My 'day job':
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ycJWtRTl.jpg?1[/img]

Caught tuning the fuel curve on the lap top:
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Do a fair amount of fab work like this throttle linkage:
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And this combination 'chute strap and push bar quick release:
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You are a man of many talents Al.
Well done!

Hello fellas!

Nice.

Target from the Tooley 223. Dave is very good.

Won 10k at Pala Casino play roulette

yea but the man that put the holes in the black ain't no rookie ether

I've had ample trigger time in my day...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Like the cactus, beware the Cholla cactus!

5 shots from the blue 40x. 50 yards

it shows up well 6mm

Originally Posted by 44mc

it shows up well 6mm

Thanks brother 44mc

This was labeled Tooley 223 5 shots Blank Hills 52 gr blue box

Then there a days when you just plain suck . So you get to stand in the back row and act foolish!

Math Wizard is the shooting winner

Always enjoyed the dot drill. Good practice before the match.

Nothing is safe...

Celebrated my 45th birthday with a torn bicep tendon from a NYE Party and a stripper pole and a vat of vodka. Giddy up.

Cranberry and Vodka with cake

My Rock

The Princess

That was a 6br

Pictured labeled 6xc 10 shots 200 yards

The 6xc

40x at 100. I dropped a shot. Shiit happens!

A few more labeled 10 at a 100. assume a.22 caliber of??

140 VLDs 6.5x47

40x at 100

Labeled 243 5 at a 100. Could be a 40x. Not sure though

Labeled 600 yards 140 amax. Assume the 6.5x47

Had a 220 swift. Eh.....

Sako. They are always solid shooters.

HS Precision 270. Went down the road

280 for the win

22-250 ranks high on my list. 22 Creedmoor Undisputed 22 caliber champion

243. Might have shot above group not sure

40x 220 swift. good shooter. Like short actions better. It went down the road.

44 mag. 2 thumbs up

My the changes. Hint..........

Killing machine it is. Will have this till death do us apart. Maybe take it with me to the other side.

Bought it 1999 for 1k. 000669. 1 gun that can do it all. P dogs, deer, hogs, varmints etc.

90 gr VMAX works

Shooting partner Steve was spot on. 6x47 I believe

Brad match director

Sarge with a broken wheel. He didn't stand in the pusssy line either

A couple Pukes. Hint.............

View to 1k

The day we got evacuated by FD. They said match is over now. Leave! Roger that.

Couple more Pukes. Hint.................

Where dafooq is Burnsy at? Yo Burnsy.... where you at brother? Ricky?

Guncrafter. Went down the road..

Should of kept this 308 too.

Same view for 30 years. She likes to read the books. I like to watch her read the books and drink cold beer.

Win / Win

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll always prefer the GSD, but I feel like we could be friends.....

Originally Posted by NH K9

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll always prefer the GSD, but I feel like we could be friends.....

She loved people. Hated ALL 4 legged critters and fought all comes big and small. Looks ain't deceiving with Jesse. RIP

Porter Precision 6.5x47 was a solid 10. Super accurate

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by NH K9

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll always prefer the GSD, but I feel like we could be friends.....

She loved people. Hated ALL 4 legged critters and fought all comes big and small. Looks ain't deceiving with Jesse. RIP

I had a beagle with that same demeanor.
My Sheps just hated everyone who didn't share my blood....and earned some trophies along the way.

Originally Posted by NH K9

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by NH K9

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll always prefer the GSD, but I feel like we could be friends.....

She loved people. Hated ALL 4 legged critters and fought all comes big and small. Looks ain't deceiving with Jesse. RIP

I had a beagles with that same demeanor.
My Sheps just hated everyone who didn't share my blood....and earned some trophies along the way.

Sounds like my kind of doggos

Current doggo Paisley is a Schnoodle. Looks ain't deceiving here either. No clue what mean is. Best doggo I ever had. Super smart, no shed, just a happy doggo.

6mm, enjoyed the insight into your fine guns and travels. Best of luck with your back situation. Kudos!

Originally Posted by JGRaider

6mm, enjoyed the insight into your fine guns and travels. Best of luck with your back situation. Kudos!

Thank you for your kind words JGRaider. Had a long visit with surgeon yesterday. He said he can't do the surgery through current incision that has been opened up several times. He will have to go through my side and remove parts of my ribs to to do the fusion properly. He said you won't like me when you wake up and for a week or so.

I said no worries, I'll be fine. Sounds like it will be another rough one when the Dr pre warns you. Not looking for to the neck, as he has to do every level. Endeavor to Preserve!

Cheers to all the fire brothers! 1985 Cerwin Vegas are calling. My neighbor is 90 today so we heading over to wish him a HB.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JGRaider

6mm, enjoyed the insight into your fine guns and travels. Best of luck with your back situation. Kudos!

Thank you for your kind words JGRaider. Had a long visit with surgeon yesterday. He said he can't do the surgery through current incision that has been opened up several times. He will have to go through my side and remove parts of my ribs to to do the fusion properly. He said you won't like me when you wake up and for a week or so.

I said no worries, I'll be fine. Sounds like it will be another rough one when the Dr pre warns you. Not looking for to the neck, as he has to do every level. Endeavor to Preserve!

Does he do his own approach or does he use one of the vascular or CT guys? Because that’s the dude I want to vet beforehand.

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JGRaider

6mm, enjoyed the insight into your fine guns and travels. Best of luck with your back situation. Kudos!

Thank you for your kind words JGRaider. Had a long visit with surgeon yesterday. He said he can't do the surgery through current incision that has been opened up several times. He will have to go through my side and remove parts of my ribs to to do the fusion properly. He said you won't like me when you wake up and for a week or so.

I said no worries, I'll be fine. Sounds like it will be another rough one when the Dr pre warns you. Not looking for to the neck, as he has to do every level. Endeavor to Preserve!

Does he do his own approach or does he use one of the vascular or CT guys? Because that’s the dude I want to vet beforehand.

Good question. I need to find that out. Thanks

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Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cheers to all the fire brothers! 1985 Cerwin Vegas are calling. My neighbor is 90 today so we heading over to wish him a HB.

Bad ass speaker, brother

He chose wisely on his microscope. Yo Burnsy.... thoughts?

I’m not sure I could agree to removing my ribs unless it was life or death. Good luck, brother. Chronic pain here since 2015.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cheers to all the fire brothers! 1985 Cerwin Vegas are calling. My neighbor is 90 today so we heading over to wish him a HB.

Bad ass speaker, brother

Indeed. Best part of them is that my neighbors get to enjoy them at the same time!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cheers to all the fire brothers! 1985 Cerwin Vegas are calling. My neighbor is 90 today so we heading over to wish him a HB.

Bad ass speaker, brother

Indeed. Best part of them is that my neighbors get to enjoy them at the same time!

I bet. I used to rock out to Motley Crue on those.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I’m not sure I could agree to removing my ribs unless it was life or death. Good luck, brother. Chronic pain here since 2015.

This will be a rough one for sure. Pain sucks. 40 years living with it off and on. Last few several it has on way too much. I wish it on NOONE! It's a fuucking bad road and a hard on the personality.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cheers to all the fire brothers! 1985 Cerwin Vegas are calling. My neighbor is 90 today so we heading over to wish him a HB.

Bad ass speaker, brother

Indeed. Best part of them is that my neighbors get to enjoy them at the same time!

I bet. I used to rock out to Motley Crue on those.

Still do. Stairway to Heaven on now. Bonzo beating the drums now

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I’m not sure I could agree to removing my ribs unless it was life or death. Good luck, brother. Chronic pain here since 2015.

This will be a rough one for sure. Pain sucks. 40 years living with it off and on. Last few several it has on way too much. I wish it on NOONE! It's a fuucking bad road and a hard on the personality.

Yes, daily severe pain changes you. I finally decided pain was a part of life.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I’m not sure I could agree to removing my ribs unless it was life or death. Good luck, brother. Chronic pain here since 2015.

This will be a rough one for sure. Pain sucks. 40 years living with it off and on. Last few several it has on way too much. I wish it on NOONE! It's a fuucking bad road and a hard on the personality.

Yes, daily severe pain changes you. I finally decided pain was a part of life.

I refuse to accept that concept amigo. There is an corrective action for everything.

Neighbor Richard is 90 years young today. Korean vet. HB young man

Met this young man Austin a few weeks back at his grandparents house. The only glimmer of hope I have seen in the youth of today. He told me about his plan to save 5,000 dollars by the time he graduates. We had a lengthy discussion about my experience with saving and investing along with a monthly meeting with me to discuss the strategy and progress. Today I gave him a head start with $1,000 head start. There is hope!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I’m not sure I could agree to removing my ribs unless it was life or death. Good luck, brother. Chronic pain here since 2015.

This will be a rough one for sure. Pain sucks. 40 years living with it off and on. Last few several it has on way too much. I wish it on NOONE! It's a fuucking bad road and a hard on the personality.

Yes, daily severe pain changes you. I finally decided pain was a part of life.

I refuse to accept that concept amigo. There is an corrective action for everything.

Hell, it’s not defeat. It’s accepting reality .

Nice job on helping the young man out.

Brother Richard has a huge wine glass. LOL

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

I’m not sure I could agree to removing my ribs unless it was life or death. Good luck, brother. Chronic pain here since 2015.

This will be a rough one for sure. Pain sucks. 40 years living with it off and on. Last few several it has on way too much. I wish it on NOONE! It's a fuucking bad road and a hard on the personality.

Yes, daily severe pain changes you. I finally decided pain was a part of life.

I refuse to accept that concept amigo. There is an corrective action for everything.

Hell, it’s not defeat. It’s accepting reality .

Nice job on helping the young man out.

I just can't accept it. This young man made me happy.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Richard has a huge wine glass. LOL

He do. His wife Kris is a looker for 84!

It looks like you made their day !

This is what motivates me.

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Met this young man Austin a few weeks back at his grandparents house. The only glimmer of hope I have seen in the youth of today. He told me about his plan to save 5,000 dollars by the time he graduates. We had a lengthy discussion about my experience with saving and investing along with a monthly meeting with me to discuss the strategy and progress. Today I gave him a head start with $1,000 head start. There is hope!

good stuff!

Originally Posted by irfubar

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

That's an understatement!

Brother Burns can’t compete . He only has 10+ year old hunting pics. Brother 6 is too multi dimensional for Brother Burns.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You are a man of many talents Al. Well done!

Thanks. I enjoy working with anything mechanical and figuring out ways to make stuff work better.

Just finished the Kelbly KLP stocking job. It was inletted for a short 700 and I redid the inletting for a BAT SV with a 700 style lug and pillars. Lots of work but it turned out well and is headed to hydro dipping now.
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I find it interesting brother 6 cr, getting it done with rather plain scopes... I suspect the indian & arrow thing comes into play... I like it

Originally Posted by irfubar

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

Brother irfubar... how the hell have you been? I miss our old conversations!

Originally Posted by irfubar

I find it interesting brother 6 cr, getting it done with rather plain scopes... I suspect the indian & arrow thing comes into play... I like it

The latest bling bling is not necessary my good friend. Less = more most of the time

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You are a man of many talents Al. Well done!

Thanks. I enjoy working with anything mechanical and figuring out ways to make stuff work better.

Just finished the Kelbly KLP stocking job. It was inletted for a short 700 and I redid the inletting for a BAT SV with a 700 style lug and pillars. Lots of work but it turned out well and is headed to hydro dipping now.
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Excellent craftmanship Al. Outfuucking standing work!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

Brother irfubar... how the hell have you been? I miss our old conversations!

Fine as frog hair brother... still livin the dream enjoying Gods country.
I was surprised to find you left Colorado? looks like you are doin well... except for the spine issues, wish you the best on that.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

Brother irfubar... how the hell have you been? I miss our old conversations!

Fine as frog hair brother... still livin the dream enjoying Gods country.
I was surprised to find you left Colorado? looks like you are doin well... except for the spine issues, wish you the best on that.

The short Colorado stint was good but an old friend called and asked me if I would do him a solid. We had a brief afternoon meeting to discuss the needs and I said send me the financial offer and all the details. HR called and made the pitch, wife and I looked at each other and said we are in. It was a win/ win for both sides. Closed to my daughter is also a plus. Great area and good people. Just put 60mm in the place last year, now working on getting the ROGI back to corporate as promised.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

Brother irfubar... how the hell have you been? I miss our old conversations!

Fine as frog hair brother... still livin the dream enjoying Gods country.
I was surprised to find you left Colorado? looks like you are doin well... except for the spine issues, wish you the best on that.

The short Colorado stint was good but an old friend called and asked me if I would do him a solid. We had a brief afternoon meeting to discuss the needs and I said send me the financial offer and all the details. HR called and made the pitch, wife and I looked at each other and said we are in. It was a win/ win for both sides. Closed to my daughter is also a plus. Great area and good people. Just put 60mm in the place last year, now working on getting the ROGI back to corporate as promised.

Life's twist and turns are what makes it interesting....... I have been busy the last year, decided to sell my business and be truly retired instead of semi retired... I am really liking it so far...

My 6PPC Light Varmint class rig. RFD action, Sightron 36X up top.

My Mack Bros in 22 Creedmoor. I added a center action screw to it. Sightron 6-24
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My Atlas single shot in 22BR. Sightron 4-20 S-Tac.
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My 6BR. Another Sightron 4-20 S-Tac. Ted Nugent autographed the stock and added his Stick Man figure.
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Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Thanks brother 6 creed for getting this thread going in the right direction... great pic's

Brother irfubar... how the hell have you been? I miss our old conversations!

Fine as frog hair brother... still livin the dream enjoying Gods country.
I was surprised to find you left Colorado? looks like you are doin well... except for the spine issues, wish you the best on that.

The short Colorado stint was good but an old friend called and asked me if I would do him a solid. We had a brief afternoon meeting to discuss the needs and I said send me the financial offer and all the details. HR called and made the pitch, wife and I looked at each other and said we are in. It was a win/ win for both sides. Closed to my daughter is also a plus. Great area and good people. Just put 60mm in the place last year, now working on getting the ROGI back to corporate as promised.

Life's twist and turns are what makes it interesting....... I have been busy the last year, decided to sell my business and be truly retired instead of semi retired... I am really liking it so far...

I signed for 2 years. Have 10 months in already. None to pleased with the spinal failure but am optimistic that the surgeon I have now can work his magic. Will have 40 years in April 16th. I see the finish line soon but want to have the plant performing at a high level with sustainability for the future. Replaced several people so far and a few more changes are in the works. Has been mislead for several years. Time is against me at the moment.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

My 6PPC Light Varmint class rig. RFD action, Sightron 36X up top.

My Mack Bros in 22 Creedmoor. I added a center action screw to it. Sightron 6-24
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My Atlas single shot in 22BR. Sightron 4-20 S-Tac.
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My 6BR. Another Sightron 4-20 S-Tac. Ted Nugent autographed the stock and added his Stick Man figure.
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First class all the way Al. Hunted with Ted in Crawford when I was in Texas. Solid guy. You do very nice work and the 22 Creedmoor is a beauty and I just got a prefit barrel for one of my actions. It is a great caliber. Keep the pictures coming my friend!

Six, any footage of your MMA fights available? That would be interesting to watch.

Martial arts then the rifle shooting? A friend & shooting bud of mine is a black belt in(?) & picked up shooting later. The same drive with the rifles as the belt took.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Six, any footage of you MMA fights available? That would be interesting.

Martial arts then the rifle shooting? A friend & shooting bud of mine is a black belt in(?) & picked up shooting later. The same drive with the rifles as the belt took.

I'll see if I can locate them.

Sorry to regress, but I still wish you'd beat the ever-lovin' schitttt outa Burns. You wouldn't break a sweat on 'muglia.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Sorry to regress, but I still wish you'd beat the ever-lovin' schitttt outa Burns. You wouldn't break a sweat on 'muglia.

It would be quick and ugly.

Daughters wedding in Maui last September. 30 days fresh out of the last back fusion. Told doc he needed to fix me so I can make the wedding. he just shook his head and got er done.

Why we do what we do. Family first....

Had a good crew working on all the girls. They all have been friends since grade school.

What did that cost?

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

What did that cost?

A kidney....

You only live once

That's the rumor. 180k just for Dr so I could make the wedding. He said you wont' make it. I proved him wrong. First two days was a struggle I must say. Ballpark 250k for wedding give or take.

We are only passing through. There is no difference between a short life and a long life. They are just moments in time.....

A life well lived... congrats

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Why we do what we do. Family first....

Amen. Beautiful looking crew there.

Originally Posted by irfubar

A life well lived... congrats

Thanks brother irfubar. This is where all the hard work pays off so they have better life than we did.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Why we do what we do. Family first....

Amen. Beautiful looking crew there.

Gracias amigo

Handloads vs FGMM

Custom 17 HMR results. Trying to remember who built if for me. I know he passed away and think he was from Virginia.

Where’s your 17 WSM , 6mm?

Richard Franklin built it. Don't have one yet.

Best I've learned from.

Kick ass fighting!

He a tough mofo

Crawford Texas

Rodeo Drive

Brother Burns would guzzle 8 oz. of Robitussin and go all out for 8 seconds . Can Brother 6mm defend?

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Burns would guzzle 8 oz. of Robitussin and go all out for 8 seconds . Can Brother 6mm defend?

Let’s make sure he found that pex line, first

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Burns would guzzle 8 oz. of Robitussin and go all out for 8 seconds . Can Brother 6mm defend?

Hard pass for me...

Damn car is shorter than me even kneeling

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Burns would guzzle 8 oz. of Robitussin and go all out for 8 seconds . Can Brother 6mm defend?

Shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. Speed kills. Period.

Down goes Burnsy.

Sup?

-15 degrees this morning and the winds at 20 mph make it a -40 wind chill factor. Might need gloves today...maybe even a hat.

Morning Al. That is a very brisk way to start the day off. 43 here out West.

Al.... break break in thoughts?

morning 6 & AL, 38 here in FLA

Morning...

That is a bit brisk for Florida!

We have our first frost of the season on the lawn this morning.

That is rare for Loozyana

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is rare for Loozyana

The temps in this area are interesting. The south shore of Lake Pontchartrain is about 5 degrees warmer than the north shore in the winter. Surrounding areas had a frost in November. We'll see temps in the upper 20s Wednesday. We generally see a few freezing days a year. In 2013 we had ice on our roads in what was one of the coldest winters on record. In 2016 (IIRC) the surrounding area saw significant snow.

going to 29 in the morning

Originally Posted by PaulBarnard

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is rare for Loozyana

The temps in this area are interesting. The south shore of Lake Pontchartrain is about 5 degrees warmer than the north shore in the winter. Surrounding areas had a frost in November. We'll see temps in the upper 20s Wednesday. We generally see a few freezing days a year. In 2013 we had ice on our roads in what was one of the coldest winters on record. In 2016 (IIRC) the surrounding area saw significant snow.

Damn... looks like Wisconsin. I spent some very long extended stays in Ruston for work.

When I lived in Wisconsin we had a winter league match. January 8th is was 7 below for the first match!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Al.... break break in thoughts?

An excellent video...he does a great job and has the wins to back up recommendations.

I don't JB the throat area but do a bit of burnishing instead. I shoot one and clean for the first few rounds just to see what the patches are showing me. Once that settles down...usually 3-5 shots with the burnishing technique...I shoot 10, clean and if the patches are what I expect to see I jump right to load work.

I've got a new barrel ready to fire that has been treated by a process that's supposed to help in break in. Not sure I'm on board with that as the chamber reamer is what generates most of the issue that breaking in takes care of. But I've seen some nicely broken in throats where the barrel still lays copper down about 2/3rds of the way up.

I'm not big on excessive cleaning. I just let the barrel tell me what it likes and clean lightly at an interval that keeps it accurate. On my 30BRs, they can go close to 100 rounds between cleaning.

2 cents worth over my first cup of Sulawesi....

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Al.... break break in thoughts?

An excellent video...he does a great job and has the wins to back up recommendations.

I don't JB the throat area but do a bit of burnishing instead. I shoot one and clean for the first few rounds just to see what the patches are showing me. Once that settles down...usually 3-5 shots with the burnishing technique...I shoot 10, clean and if the patches are what I expect to see I jump right to load work.

I've got a new barrel ready to fire that has been treated by a process that's supposed to help in break in. Not sure I'm on board with that as the chamber reamer is what generates most of the issue that breaking in takes care of. But I've seen some nicely broken in throats where the barrel still lays copper down about 2/3rds of the way up.

I'm not big on excessive cleaning. I just let the barrel tell me what it likes and clean lightly at an interval that keeps it accurate. On my 30BRs, they can go close to 100 rounds between cleaning.

2 cents worth over my first cup of Sulawesi....

Thanks for you response Al.

My lone 6 Creed. Great rifle now after a protracted trip back to Nosler. Topped with a Nikon M5 3-12x42. Good scope for a hunting rifle. Got it on closeout after Nikon bailed on the scope business.

This was before its trip back to Nosler.

This was after.

I remember reading about that a while back. What was the root cause of the accuracy?

Don Geraci barrel. Shooter.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Thanks for you response Al.

No problem....just my approach. A buddy has a big name cut rifled barrel on one of his BR guns that just flat refused to 'break in'....that thing would load copper like crazy. Finally, two of us suggested that he just quit cleaning it and go shoot 50 rounds...taking a look with the Hawkeye every 10 rounds. Right at 40 rounds it just quit fouling. It's now one of his best barrels.

Off topic for a 'Scopes' thread but it's got bore scopes in it so it's probably ok.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Thanks for you response Al.

No problem....just my approach. A buddy has a big name cut rifled barrel on one of his BR guns that just flat refused to 'break in'....that thing would load copper like crazy. Finally, two of us suggested that he just quit cleaning it and go shoot 50 rounds...taking a look with the Hawkeye every 10 rounds. Right at 40 rounds it just quit fouling. It's now one of his best barrels.

Good information. Barrels do talk to us if we are listening.

Tried this at the range before a match for shiits and giggles

https://snipercentral.com/300-yard-head-shot-leaderboard/

Wisconsin winter

First day match temperature

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I remember reading about that a while back. What was the root cause of the accuracy?

At first they replaced the barrel. Then they had to replace the receiver. I guess the stock, sling studs and trigger were GTG.

Brother Ron has several of these

20 rounds factory 308 ammo. Geraci. LRI action tune up.

Mr Chad Dixon's fine work

I experimented alot

Ran into Edgar Winter in Minnesota

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ran into Edgar Winter in Minnesota

And I sliced a tee shot into Lindsay Buckingham's yard in California. 😁

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ran into Edgar Winter in Minnesota

And I sliced a tee shot into Lindsay Buckingham's yard in California. 😁

Did you get your ball back?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Did you get your ball back?

I did.

Made a nice recovery shot, but still lost the hole. Ended up losing 3and2 to one of the Callaway staffers, so "respectable" Beat being the guys who got smoked 8and6. 😁

I'm ok at golf, but hockey was what I was actually "good" at.

First time as practice goalie with the Wild:

They let me keep a practice jersey:

Edit: realized that was my first time at the Xcel center practicing with the team, my actual first time was at Parade in Minneapolis the day prior.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Did you get your ball back?

I did.

Made a nice recovery shot, but still lost the hole. Ended up losing 3and2 to one of the Callaway staffers, so "respectable" Beat being the guys who got smoked 8and6. 😁

I'm ok at golf, but hockey was what I was actually "good" at.

First time as practice goalie with the Wild:

They let me keep a practice jersey:

Good deal. Next time your out this way I'll hook you up with my son in law and his business partner in LA Quinta. They golf there often and are damn good golfers 🏌️‍♀️

Action shots:

(That was on TV during Hockey Day Minnesota at the Roseville oval. They cancelled a high school outdoor game due to it being below zero)

At nationals in Detroit:

(We won)

And, Kevin Weeks at the Wild s first outdoor game:

Pretty fuucking badasss Brother Goalie. Hockey isn't for pussies

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Pretty fuucking badasss Brother Goalie. Hockey isn't for pussies

Yeah, it was awesome playing goalie for the NHL Alumni team for over a decade, but actually practicing with an NHL team made me realize that "good" is still nowhere near that level.

It completely crashed any "what if" fantasies 😁

Filled the bird feeders this morning at my sod hut on the prairie before heading to church. The sun dogs are really beautiful today.
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Yesterdays shop project...finishing the motor plate. It had an LSX based engine in it. New 315" Coyote Factory Shootout engine going in now for NHRA BB/A class:
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Helluva shop to be involved with!
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Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Pretty fuucking badasss Brother Goalie. Hockey isn't for pussies

Yeah, it was awesome playing goalie for the NHL Alumni team for over a decade, but actually practicing with an NHL team made me realize that "good" is still nowhere near that level.

It completely crashed any "what if" fantasies 😁

There is a huge gap between professional and next level down.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Filled the bird feeders this morning at my sod hut on the prairie before heading to church. The sun dogs are really beautiful today.
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Yesterdays shop project...finishing the motor plate. It had an LSX based engine in it. New 315" Coyote Factory Shootout engine going in now for NHRA BB/A class:
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Helluva shop to be involved with!
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Al... your machining/ mechanical skills are most impressive!

Salute to you sir.

Yesterdays shop project...finishing the motor plate. It had an LSX based engine in it. New 315" Coyote Factory Shootout engine going in now for NHRA BB/A class:
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Helluva shop to be involved with!
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Nice rides, even if they are for short trips!!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Al... your machining/ mechanical skills are most impressive!

Salute to you sir.

Not all my work by any stretch. It's a darn good crew...everyone contributes to make it work. I feel very fortunate to be involved at this level.

Now that the thread has turned civil, it seems like a couple of gas bags have deflated. Probably the cold weather?

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Al... your machining/ mechanical skills are most impressive!

Salute to you sir.

Not all my work by any stretch. It's a darn good crew...everyone contributes to make it work. I feel very fortunate to be involved at this level.

Now that the thread has turned civil, it seems like a couple of gas bags have deflated. Probably the cold weather?

Nonetheless outstanding work.... as I've said many times, "We win as a Team or Fail as individuals"

Velocity trigger in the 224 V Uintah. What they recommend.

Back at ya with 2010 LE, #1 of 40

Happy New Year!

Best,

GWB

Great minds think alike GWB. Amigo

Morning.

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Morning.

Morning...

Highly recommend TRT to all the older gentleman on here. Led by a good medical team of course, It improves the quality of life dramatically for us aging old farts.

I was worried this was going to turn into a "low T" thread, but thankfully 6 got it back on track. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😁

Originally Posted by goalie

I was worried this was going to turn into a "low T" thread, but thankfully 6 got it back on track. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😁

Here to help.....

50s and Blue skies

-1 and blue skies here.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

50s and Blue skies

-1° and partly sunny here.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

When I lived in Wisconsin we had a winter league match. January 8th is was 7 below for the first match!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

When I lived in Wisconsin we had a winter league match. January 8th is was 7 below for the first match!

I shoot here very often,, I often wonder if we’ve ever walked right by each other,,,,,,

Cold where you guys are at. I just opened the windows up for some fresh air.

10G how have you been. See the home project is coming along nicely

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

When I lived in Wisconsin we had a winter league match. January 8th is was 7 below for the first match!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

When I lived in Wisconsin we had a winter league match. January 8th is was 7 below for the first match!

I shoot here very often,, I often wonder if we’ve ever walked right by each other,,,,,,

Good chance. Was there quite often

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cold where you guys are at. I just opened the windows up for some fresh air.

10G how have you been. See the home project is coming along nicely

It's coming. Weather this week turned to schitt so only thing done was garage doors. Told gutter guys to give it a couple weeks.

HVAC was supposed to go in but air handler has been MIAon delivery truck for the last 2 weeks.

Get that done then plumber can finish and we can get electrical done. Be nice once we can really get rolling.

Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cold where you guys are at. I just opened the windows up for some fresh air.

10G how have you been. See the home project is coming along nicely

It's coming. Weather this week turned to schitt so only thing done was garage doors. Told gutter guys to give it a couple weeks.

HVAC was supposed to go in but air handler has been MIAon delivery truck for the last 2 weeks.

Get that done then plumber can finish and we can get electrical done. Be nice once we can really get rolling.

It will all come together in due time then you can enjoy the fruits of you labor.

30 years solid

Bud from LA days...

Ole G Dawg. My driver in Colorado

Head cook Sean

Shiit hole Seattle

Wisconsin beer

decisions....

Doggos

The Queen

Talk about a misleading thread title.....

Door County Wisconsin. A hidden gem.

Back on track. Decent scopes

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yes! Once in awhile when my wife and I dinned out we would order only appetizers.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yes! Once in awhile when my wife and I dinned out we would order only appetizers.

Sometimes that is the best choice. Still looking for pictures from Wisconsin winter league. Maybe you might recognize some of the shooters.

Damn Purdue wide receivers.....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

yup!

GWB

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Door County Wisconsin. A hidden gem.

Done that stretch a lot on my bikes. DC is about perfect in the summertime.

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

yup!

GWB

Well played GWB.

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Door County Wisconsin. A hidden gem.

Done that stretch a lot on my bikes. DC is about perfect in the summertime.

I love it there in the fall. Beautiful place.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

yup!

GWB

Well played GWB.

just attempting to follow your lead!

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ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

yup!

GWB

Well played GWB.

just attempting to follow your lead!

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ya!

GWB

Hahahaha good one!

fellers it has been a good day on here , between chitty weather and broke bones I have enjoyed this thread all day . I appreciate all the pics. and stories . one hell of a good thread

This thread made me wonder if I had any old prizes still here. Found some in a corner of the basement. PPC, USPSA & Sporting Clays, local stuff. Never could run with the big dogs, but refused to stay on the porch. Thought y'all might need a good chuckle.

Finally found the pictures. google is hiding my gun pictures.

A very cold winter match with some very good talent in the pictures.

Nice stuff,

Had to shoot the string at 100 yards. First shot.

I won $120

100 yards Ace of Spades.

Week 1 I won. 7 below that day

Originally Posted by 44mc

fellers it has been a good day on here , between chitty weather and broke bones I have enjoyed this thread all day . I appreciate all the pics. and stories . one hell of a good thread

You're welcome

Originally Posted by gunzo

This thread made me wonder if I had any old prizes still here. Found some in a corner of the basement. PPC, USPSA & Sporting Clays, local stuff. Never could run with the big dogs, but refused to stay on the porch. Thought y'all might need a good chuckle.

Nice. All about the trigger time and the friends / memories you make. Trophy's and plaques are just bling bling trinkets that collect dust.

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Nice stuff,

Thanks my friend.

Originally Posted by gunzo

This thread made me wonder if I had any old prizes still here. Found some in a corner of the basement. PPC, USPSA & Sporting Clays, local stuff. Never could run with the big dogs, but refused to stay on the porch. Thought y'all might need a good chuckle.

Very cool!

200 yard target

Wind blows here

When your driving to the range and you share the same name as the unlucky one. Always made me ponder...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by gunzo

This thread made me wonder if I had any old prizes still here. Found some in a corner of the basement. PPC, USPSA & Sporting Clays, local stuff. Never could run with the big dogs, but refused to stay on the porch. Thought y'all might need a good chuckle.

Nice. All about the trigger time and the friends / memories you make. Trophy's and plaques are just bling bling trinkets that collect dust.

How true, surprised I found these as I threw out old drag racing trophies years ago. The one USPSA plaque, not even sure what gun I was shooting, but it reminded me of the Kegger afterward. Someone said the tape of the entire night time shoot at the Knob Creek machine-gun shoot vid replayed something like 13 times while we tried to whip the keg.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Wind blows here

McMiller? Way back when McMiller had a huge tire berm for backstop on 100 yard line. Story was some guy shooting tracers set the berm on fire.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Wind blows here

McMiller? Way back when McMiller had a huge tire berm for backstop on 100 yard line. Story was some guy shooting tracers set the berm on fire.

Yes this is McMillers. Guy sounds like a real genius! Always someone to fuuck things up...

Originally Posted by gunzo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by gunzo

This thread made me wonder if I had any old prizes still here. Found some in a corner of the basement. PPC, USPSA & Sporting Clays, local stuff. Never could run with the big dogs, but refused to stay on the porch. Thought y'all might need a good chuckle.

Nice. All about the trigger time and the friends / memories you make. Trophy's and plaques are just bling bling trinkets that collect dust.

How true, surprised I found these as I threw out old drag racing trophies years ago. The one USPSA plaque, not even sure what gun I was shooting, but it reminded me of the Kegger afterward. Someone said the tape of the entire night time shoot at the Knob Creek machine-gun shoot vid replayed something like 13 times while we tried to whip the keg.

Oooooh rah!

This stock was made in Wisconsin.

*

2 geniuses

Rental Car

See my boo boo

Don't park on the lake

Smooth- - - - - - -

The old Playboy Mansion

One hell of a machinist

Gus

Does great work

Oklahoma choke and puke. I concur....

GAP 6.5C

6.8 spc

1965 Ruger 10/22. Looked for years before I found one.

Cheapskate here, have to mix my own & drink at home.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Muddy Blurries,,,, love em. An experiment for 30 years. Again, at home.

Never had much luck with a 10/22 in a few configurations until I ponied up. Schtick made fun of me for wanting one, but so far it's been good to me. Thinking you mentioned one also Six, & winning with it.

Need a new pic, now wearing a NF as it started with, & a Greyboe Terrain w/M5 bottom metal. Last month, factory 5R barrel had 50 rounds through it without cleaning. Fired cold bore to check the stock change in zero. .5 L .5H, fired 2 more to confirm, .3 three shot group @100. 2 clicks down & right, shoot confirm, reset knobs to zero. Dang gun kicks a bit more than my 260's or 6CM & doesn;t shoot as flat or as far. But simply have to keep it around.

Ain't that somethin? a couple customs here with Kriegers that shoot damn good, but a doggone $800 factory rifle always waiting to kick one ovum's ass. I love it!

Originally Posted by gunzo

Never had much luck with a 10/22 in a few configurations until I ponied up. Schtick made fun of me for wanting one, but so far it's been good to me. Thinking you mentioned one also Six, & winning with it.

Kidds are top shelf. They work as described 100%. Nice rig my friend.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Need a new pic, now wearing a NF as it started with, & a Greyboe Terrain w/M5 bottom metal. Last month, factory 5R barrel had 50 rounds through it without cleaning. Fired cold bore to check the stock change in zero. .5 L .5H, fired 2 more to confirm, .3 three shot group @100. 2 clicks down & right, shoot confirm, reset knobs to zero. Dang gun kicks a bit more than my 260's or 6CM & doesn;t shoot as flat or as far. But simply have to keep it around.

Ain't that somethin? a couple customs here with Kriegers that shoot damn good, but a doggone $800 factory rifle always waiting to kick one ovum's ass. I love it!

Factory barrels can be great shooters as well. Always test drive them before wanting to spend money needlessly. Save it for the ammo.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Cheapskate here, have to mix my own & drink at home.

Whatever works for ya....

Actually, just too lazy to go out.

The Eagle Wi, target go my attention. So I looked & there is an Eagle & an Eagle River, so no connection. But I had a bud in ER & I whitetail hunted up there one late Nov. Have spent weeks in Rocky Mtn. high country in late Oct. early Nov. 4 feet of snow. But never,,,,,,,, been colder than I was in Eagle River one Thanksgiving week. Some hardy folks for sure. Is that where you're from?

Originally Posted by gunzo

Actually, just too lazy to go out.

The Eagle Wi, target go my attention. So I looked & there is an Eagle & an Eagle River, so no connection. But I had a bud in ER & I whitetail hunted up there one late Nov. Have spent weeks in Rocky Mtn. high country in late Oct. early Nov. 4 feet of snow. But never,,,,,,,, been colder than I was in Eagle River one Thanksgiving week. Some hardy folks for sure. Is that where you're from?

Pennsylvania born. Just south a Buffalo. Well aware of snow and cold. Not a fan of either.

10/22

Never had a factory 700 that didn't shoot

6mm Creedmoor with Carbon 6 barrel. Tulsa Ok

6mmCreedmoor heavy sporter. Sight in at 220y. Point and shoot. Keep it simple. No knob twisting.

6mmCreemoor 20'' Carbon. 220 yard zero. Point and shoot. Keep it simple

Same specs as above

Same. KISS

A scope thread with a nekkid rifle? Finished last May. Has had 2 scopes borrowed from it, still not finalized for load or optics choice. I'm slowing down some, but maybe this spring will have it rockin. 7.5tw 6 Creed. No comps just fun or shootin with buds for a buck a match.

220 zero

Originally Posted by gunzo

A scope thread with a nekkid rifle? Finished last May. Has had 2 scopes borrowed from it, still not finalized for load or optics choice. I'm slowing down some, but maybe this spring will have it rockin. 7.5tw 6 Creed. No comps just fun or shootin with buds for a buck a match.

Great platform. KISS

Same

Chassis are consistent

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Chassis are consistent

What bipod is that?

Aztalan WI MX back in the day, 1977. I sure enjoyed racing. I chose 449 for whatever reason, could be AMA District 16 had that number available. Dunno.

First trophy I won I got concused in practice, BIG endo over the bars. Was fearless that day. That was 125cc class. Moved to 250cc class seen here. I figured out 2nd gear starts always resulted in holeshot.

TacOps with Buckmasters. Point and shoot

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Aztalan WI MX back in the day, 1977. I sure enjoyed racing. I chose 449 for whatever reason, could be AMA District 16 had that number available. Dunno.

First trophy I won I got concused in practice, BIG endo over the bars. Was fearless that day. That was 125cc class. Moved to 250cc class seen here. I figured out 2nd gear starts always resulted in holeshot.

Badassss

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Chassis are consistent

What bipod is that?

Senior moment..... will have to think on it

6mmCreedmoor

Bump

Good enough

6.5 C factory. Short life span with me. 6 is better

BCM 14.5" upper. 5 Stars

Hodgepodge. Most made the cut

I can't seem to warm up to chassis rifles. Not my age as I tend to embrace a lot of new tech. I know they work & I understand how, just not me.

But otherwise, to me 6, you've shown some damn good looking, & I figure damn good shooting rifles.

Paint works . KISS

Originally Posted by gunzo

I can't seem to warm up to chassis rifles. Not my age as I tend to embrace a lot of new tech. I know they work & I understand how, just not me.

But otherwise, to me 6, you've shown some damn good looking, & I figure damn good shooting rifles.

That's why there are lots of choices. We like something different. Chassis system always works.

Have it set up to point and shoot. No dialing. Takes time, time is not our friend.

A chassis or stock is just a handle

P doesn't dial either. Point and shoot

Mark,

Methinks you are having to much fun!

So, IIRC,
All of the following have scopes......

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Hodgepodge. Most made the cut

Oh no!

5 or 6 trips west to put Prairie Dogs on the endangered species list. And this old original Bushmaster V-Match upper on a Rock River lower has never missed a beat, not once. Owns 695 yard kills. Scope elevation travel craps out there.

Dry fire daily. P agrees. Neighbors are aware. Like having me for a neighbor. Makes them feel safe.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Hodgepodge. Most made the cut

Oh no!

5 or 6 trips west to put Prairie Dogs on the endangered species list. And this old original Bushmaster V-Match upper on a Rock River lower has never missed a beat, not once. Owns 695 yard kills. Scope elevation travel craps out there.

She's a keeper. Brand doesn't matter. It either shoots or it don't. She shoots she stays, she don't be gone biitch

Surround yourself with what makes you happy. Life is short. Shorter when your 59 and fuucked up

She's part of the team

10 milly. Solid

Dynamic Duo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Surround yourself with makes you happy. Life is short. Shorter when your 59 and fuucked up

At 72, I concur!

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Drake sez' retrieving that many quail is thirsty work!

ya!

GWB

260 I did for a bud in Mishygun

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I understand that some matches don't allow gadgets, & that's probably separating the wheat from the chaff. But without the the gadgets & a cheat sheet, I guess this old man would be lost. Or back to the old days of just guessing yardage. Done everyday with a lot of misses helped hone the use.

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Surround yourself with makes you happy. Life is short. Shorter when your 59 and fuucked up

At 72, I concur!

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Drake sez' retrieving that many quail is thirsty work!

ya!

GWB

GWB is my friend and a great guy.

Good looking doggo GWB

308. Jack of all trades

Beater. Everyone needs one close by

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dry fire daily. P agrees. Neighbors are aware. Like having me for a neighbor. Makes them feel safe.

Good guys with guns.......what could possibly be better?

Always creative

Giddy up. Build your own. Its easy

6.8 keeper

Neighbors still like me

PM scheduled. Follow to a T

Fundamentals work

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dry fire daily. P agrees. Neighbors are aware. Like having me for a neighbor. Makes them feel safe.

Good guys with guns.......what could possibly be better?

Nothing. Dogs are great

Short barrel or long barrel they both work. Pick the right one for the job at hand.
Math is our friend.It doesn't lie.

700 is a great design. Bean counters and corporate people fuuck up the quality by cutting cost. Never works.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

GWB is my friend and a great guy.

Thank you sir!

I consider that to be high praise!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Good looking doggo GWB

He is a hustler

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Good way to go through life. Tinkering with guns. Makes me happy

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

GWB is my friend and a great guy.

Thank you sir!

I consider that to be high praise!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Good looking doggo GWB

He is a hustler

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

You are welcome friend. Needs to be more men like GWB.

Buy guns FTF where legal. No BS

Dry fire often. Safety first before dry fire. Fundamentals over and over.

I like the 224 Valkyrie. Have bolt and semi

Spare parts are mandatory. Life's too short to wait for the mail

JP is quality

Buy more than 1

My friends, brother's co worker's, BIL has an AR pistol that he bought in Waffle House parking lot.

Thinking he has a very handy weapon that's without a paper trail. It could be last ditch after all others compromised.

Show your wares off to your friends. Friends like to see you your wares. Friends shouldn't touch your wife. mine follow that rule.

Originally Posted by gunzo

My friends, brother's co worker's, BIL has an AR pistol that he bought in Waffle House parking lot.

Thinking he has a very handy weapon that's without a paper trail. It could be last ditch after all others compromised.

Smart man.

Take your rifle hunting. It's the same as taking your dog for a walk.

Safety and PPE are a nonnegotiable

I hear NF is pretty good.

BTW,

I do luv the warmth of wood!

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some 7-08's

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ya!

GWB

Take your rifles on vacation like we do our families. Rifles like to get out too.

P approves

Try them all. Discrimination is not good.

They bloom

Originally Posted by geedubya

BTW,

I do luv the warmth of wood!

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some 7-08's

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

That is a Royale Flush my friend GWB!

Rumor has it ugly rifles shoot as well as ugly girls fuuck. Just a rumour....

She is relentless

Spotter ready Shooter ready

Critic your partners form

Levels and turrets.... can't see either. Blurry. NVA for me

This guy makes great uppers. Blank at the moment for his name

I like CZ

Only have 3, but they don't leave me wondering. So far the 5.5 -22 NXS is my fave. Had one sold it, regretted it, bought another, happy. Had to have the newer NX8 in 4-32. Lower weight than & shorter than NXS, eyebox a bit tighter. But the only reticle available in SFP is a bit busy for my 70 YO peppers. The longer heavier NXS 32X might have suited me better. Heavy damn things, my only bitch. I don't carry them far, but rifle balance suffers IMO.

FWIW, Schtick just bought 2, his test should be..... interesting.

Change is good

I like folders

Originally Posted by gunzo

Only have 3, but they don't leave me wondering. So far the 5.5 -22 NXS is my fave. Had one sold it, regretted it, bought another, happy. Had to have the newer NX8 in 4-32. Lower weight than & shorter than NXS, eyebox a bit tighter. But the only reticle available in SFP is a bit busy for my 70 YO peppers. The longer heavier NXS 32X might have suited me better. Heavy damn things, my only bitch. I don't carry them far, but rifle balance suffers IMO.

NF is consistently good. They are heavy though.

Peek a fucucking boo muthaaaa [bleep]

10 milly is gtg

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is Royale Flush my friend GWB!

To bastardize a title......

The quest goes on forever

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Elvis loved guns as do I. We both were born Jan 8. We both are martial artists. He sings better, I fight better.

He's better looking than me

SK is good

The 280 is a badmofo

Very good.

Word..........

Color coordinating is ok

I like green and black

Handy

More than some.... I know a guy.

52 is America

Works well

Early A receiver. My buddy talked me out of it. Regrets, yes. A bud is a bud for life.

OTOH......................... Schtick hates this pic, won't admit it but I could tell. Wanted to try a 17 but no ammo around. Then a year or so later ammo showed up. Pawn shop Salvage, mud on the stock, $200 OTD. Grabbed a 4-12 BSA Sweet 17 for $60 OTD & some V-maxes. 5 shots, 1/2" at a hunnert, with a flier.

I've had a ball with it. It owns several 300 yard plus PD kills.

Another A that got shortened and a face lift.

Originally Posted by gunzo

OTOH......................... Schtick hates this pic, won't admit it but I could tell. Wanted to try a 17 but no ammo around. Then a year or so later ammo showed up. Pawn shop Salvage, mud on the stock, $200 OTD. Grabbed a 4-12 BSA Sweet 17 for $60 OTD & some V-maxes. 5 shots, 1/2" at a hunnert, with a flier.

I've had a ball with it. It owns several 300 yard plus PD kills.

Winner winner if it shoots good.

Very very good ammo

could be true....

A solid 10.

She is well trained in many areas. best partner for 30 years

Best attention to detail I have seen. 12 plus

Perfection

A few more woooooody's

and I'll stop!

Maybe.....

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ya!

GWB

22 magnum. Great shooter. 2 thumbs up

Everyone should have one

No words needed. A killing machine

One more couldn't hurt

Winning

Looks good

THE 10 MILLY IS A 10

Originally Posted by geedubya

A few more woooooody's

and I'll stop!

Maybe.....

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

GWB has beautiful wood!

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is Royale Flush my friend GWB!

To bastardize a title......

The quest goes on forever

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Keep em coming ole buddy. They is purdy fo sho amigo

Good stuff!

This old man is gonna call it a night!

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ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

This...is one sexy bitch. A 308?

Originally Posted by geedubya

Mark,

Methinks you are having to much fun!

So, IIRC,
All of the following have scopes......

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

I am having fun. I am glad you joined the party. You have the best looking rifles of anyone. I applaud for your taste my good friend.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

This...is one sexy bitch. A 308?

Yes sir. I would put it above TacOps. But both are in another league

Originally Posted by geedubya

Good stuff!

This old man is gonna call it a night!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Sleep well. heading there next myself.

Damn, Gdub pullin out stuff I ain't seen in the time I've been here.

All great, plus. Yes, great taste. Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by geedubya

Mark,

Methinks you are having to much fun!

ya!

GWB

I am having fun. I am glad you joined the party. You have the best looking rifles of anyone. I applaud for your taste my good friend.

If I don't assume room temp before the rising of the sun, I'll check to see if I have some Plastic Fantatistic,

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

(not your quality, but they do have scopes mounted)

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Filled the bird feeders this morning at my sod hut on the prairie before heading to church. The sun dogs are really beautiful today.
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Yesterdays shop project...finishing the motor plate. It had an LSX based engine in it. New 315" Coyote Factory Shootout engine going in now for NHRA BB/A class:
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Helluva shop to be involved with!
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Way past my IQ! impressive as Fuuck

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by geedubya

Mark,

Methinks you are having to much fun!

ya!

GWB

I am having fun. I am glad you joined the party. You have the best looking rifles of anyone. I applaud for your taste my good friend.

If I don't assume room temp before the rising of the sun, I'll check to see if I have some Plastic Fantatistic,

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

(not your quality, but they do have scopes mounted)

ya!

GWB

They are like the not so good looking women. You don't have to handle with care so much!
But still get the job done....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Filled the bird feeders this morning at my sod hut on the prairie before heading to church. The sun dogs are really beautiful today.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Yesterdays shop project...finishing the motor plate. It had an LSX based engine in it. New 315" Coyote Factory Shootout engine going in now for NHRA BB/A class:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Helluva shop to be involved with!
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Way past my IQ! impressive as Fuuck

Not! past your IQ. Just past your forte or training. If you chose this path you'd be OK.

Great stuff Al, I've drag raced & worked as a tool maker. Thinking your spot might be about as sweet as it gets for the trade.

Guess maybe I'm a glutton once again. All the central & western time zones going to bed, Being smart. It's Monday here & I'm still up.

Lookin at all the neat rifles hard to pass up, G'night guys.

Originally Posted by gunzo

I can't seem to warm up to chassis rifles. Not my age as I tend to embrace a lot of new tech. I know they work & I understand how, just not me.

But otherwise, to me 6, you've shown some damn good looking, & I figure damn good shooting rifles.

Thanks. I quality rifles and components. No sense in skimping on price. Buy once cry once. Quality trumps all. Plus it saves on ammo cost.

I'm out too. I enjoyed the sharing of pictures and knowledge with goodfellas.

This sure is a nice rifle.

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Dakota Model 10

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7mm-08

100 yds.

1st shot, 100 yds., cold barrel, after adjustment.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

IMO those Dakota Model 10s are perhaps the best looking rifles ever made.

Thanks for sharing the pics.

Stay on track and record all events. Quality of life for the win. Surround yourself with great Drs. Quality of life for the win...

Get good Drs. Get blood checked often. Catch trends early. Quality of life for the win....

PSA 2.4
Estardiol 22
Hematocrit 46.2

Her safe spot....Doggo P

Bow left handed
Gun right handed

Not a problem I have....

Loozyana folk.....Toby

Genetics...

Make life easy for all....

I like Buckmarks

My Rock...

His last buck. RIP

Love those Coyote pics.

Originally Posted by Teal

Love those Coyote pics.

Thanks. We were becoming buds.

Hotels are very accommodating to us

Tired of working on guns

Did not take this. But I like it

Keep your circle small.....

Choices are good...

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

Buddy's rig

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

Negative. Joined in 2010 .

lapua6547
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From Colorado
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Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

What do you like to talk about? Chime in, we can learn from you too.

Thanks brother Mark and a few others for sharing your photos. Good stuff! Much better than watching angry men fight.

Originally Posted by wagner

Thanks brother Mark and a few others for sharing your photos. Good stuff! Much better than watching angry men fight.

Couldn't agree more. Thanks. Have a great day.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Did not take this. But I like it

Badass......to say the least.

I like coyotes too.......

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And hogs......

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Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

Negative. Joined in 2010 .

lapua6547
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He is referring to your current account. 27,632 since Dec 2022.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Best I've learned from.

Great pics and stories! brings alot of memories.
I dont usually hang out in the optics forum, but have been following this thread and had to comment on this... A local fellow here fought Benny IIRC 1984, Tom LaRoche went 12 rounds with Benny, he had Benny hurt, Benny had him hurt several times.

Tom LaRoche is a 4 time World welterweight champion, he still teaches white crane Gung fu in Kamloops BC, he is a Pastor at a local Church too.

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

Negative. Joined in 2010 .

lapua6547
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From Colorado
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He is referring to your current account. 27,632 since Dec 2022.

I think 6 is pointing out that he's had a name change.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

Negative. Joined in 2010 .

lapua6547
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From Colorado
Join Date 12/25/10
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He is referring to your current account. 27,632 since Dec 2022.

I think 6 is pointing out that he's had a name change.

Yes but the person he was responding to mentioned how many posts his current account had and his response was to show another account

I’m

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

I don't see a problem with that, do you.

Mark's posts have quality content, and it's clear that he's been there and done that. I see nothing but the reflections of a life lived to the fullest........

Originally Posted by badger

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

I don't see a problem with that, do you.

Mark's posts have quality content, and it's clear that he's been there and done that. I see nothing but the reflections of a life lived to the fullest........

Probably be great in a “post every picture you’ve taken in your entire life” thread in the “Document your entire life” Forum

Not so much in stick’s “Scopes” thread in the “Optics” Forum

👌🏼

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

Most of his posts have very little "talking".

Don't like what's posted, then scroll on by.

Hard core spot and stalk fox hunting. Early January, temps in the single digits and NW winds blowing 20....you can tell by my cover up and the fox's tail. Fox was right at 300 yards, gun is a 700 in 22BR with Nosler 40 gr. BTips @ 4,020. Scope is a Leupold 6.5-20X50 with a fine Duplex.
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This one was 20 yards past the quarter mile fence line...right at 460 yards. Day was dead calm and we were losing snow so stalking close was a no go...the shot was were it was or go home. 700 in 220 Swift with the Nosler 40 gr. BTips @ 4,300 over a bunch of WW760. Scope was a twin to the one on the 22BR above...6.5-20X50 with a fine Duplex. You can se the hold overs/hold offs taped on the turrets. Even then, adjustment wander and RTZ was a real issue. Set the zero @ 250 and hold off/over relative to the thick/thin intersection on the reticle.
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My best upland dog, Sam ('Cheststar's Miss Cinnamon Samantha'). She was a one person hunter...disliked hunting in groups or with more than maybe one other dog. She and I covered a lot of ground together. The date on the pic is wonky as I had changed the batteries and didn't reset the date.
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Good hunt on the day after Christmas.
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Jan 2nd pheasant hunt. A few years later, the man kneeling on the right side (a talented thoracic surgeon) would quite literally save my life.
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My fox hunting gear that still ready to go. Ted signed this one too....22BR. Leupold 6.5-20X50, Leupold spotter and Celestron 8X56 binoc. The Celstrons have excellent color resolution, even to this day. Much better than a set of Zeiss 8X56's. The Leupold has been replaced by a Sightron 4-20X50 with the MOA2 reticle.
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'Sopranos' crew, South Dakota style. Might be more than a little truth in that.

2023, NBRSA Iowa State Score Championships. Sightron SIII 36X45 ED
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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Most of his posts have very little "talking".

Don't like what's posted, then scroll on by.

Yeah, it's the 'fire. People get called "do nothing's" etc, then, when they reply, it's bragging.

I say 6mm keeps on keeping on with the pics.

Just shows his "scope" is more than optics.
Refreshing.

Originally Posted by hookeye

Just shows his "scope" is more than optics.
Refreshing.

Ooooh, I see what you did there......

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by hookeye

Just shows his "scope" is more than optics.
Refreshing.

Ooooh, I see what you did there......

Grin!

If you're up against a bruiser and you're getting knocked about --

Grin.

If you're feeling pretty groggy, and you're licked beyond a doubt --

Grin.

Don't let him see you're funking, let him know with every clout,
Though your face is battered to a pulp, your blooming heart is stout;
Just stand upon your pins until the beggar knocks you out --

And grin.

This life's a bally battle, and the same advice holds true

Of grin.

If you're up against it badly, then it's only one on you,

So grin.

If the future's black as thunder, don't let people see you're blue;
Just cultivate a cast-iron smile of joy the whole day through;
If they call you "Little Sunshine", wish that THEY'D no troubles, too --

You may -- grin.

Rise up in the morning with the will that, smooth or rough,

You'll grin.

Sink to sleep at midnight, and although you're feeling tough,

Yet grin.

There's nothing gained by whining, and you're not that kind of stuff;
You're a fighter from away back, and you WON'T take a rebuff;
Your trouble is that you don't know when you have had enough --

Don't give in.

If Fate should down you, just get up and take another cuff;
You may bank on it that there is no philosophy like bluff,

And grin. ......... R.W. Service

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ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Most of his posts have very little "talking".

Don't like what's posted, then scroll on by.

Yeah, it's the 'fire. People get called "do nothing's" etc, then, when they reply, it's bragging.

I say 6mm keeps on keeping on with the pics.

Me too^^^

Enjoy the thread very much thanks. Always keep in mind there are those who find sour apples in everything they are not the center of attention. Carry on a fun interesting thread.

All is I can say is thank God he hasn't had a serious bout of hemorrhoids cause I really don't want to see those pics. If he does post those pics, he could call them the grapes of wrath.

My point exactly.

Originally Posted by BubbaG

All is I can say is thank God he hasn't had a serious bout of hemorrhoids cause I really don't want to see those pics. If he does post those pics, he could call them the grapes of wrath.

Maybe he will post a few pics of something that most would think are worse than hemorrhoids.

We have Mark to thank for a high percentage of the lovely lady photo's in the miscellaneous section. And if anybody really needs to know how he's got such a high post count, it's that he has the ability to post 2 or 3 pages of some of the finest bodies there, are in just a few minutes.

Rock on 6.

Took a quip trip to work to take some of staff for updated events.

1. Surgery Feb 2nd
1. Union President who is a great friend of mine wifes just past from cancer.
3. Plans in place my for my absence as Plant Manager and who would be assuming additional responsibilities.

Thoughts on here.
1. Post counts are non value added.
2. Far from my life history. Only nice highlights possibly to make someone smile.
3. You may not want the dark sides of someones life. Some would be more respectful and put more thought into a reply.
4. The interenet is full os shiit talkers and wanna wb tough guys like the Ricky / Burnsy duo. Face to face they would learn respect and humility quickly.
5. No one owns a thread you may have started. Ric Bin owns it all.
6. If you can make a persons day better or make them smile it is a win.
7. Negativity is everywhere. Ignore it.
8. There is an ignore feature on this site. Use it if will help your delicate side.
9. Be nice, if you do not have anything positive to say, be silent.

Real life problems.... losing your wife forever. It's all perception men.....

How has your day gone so far? Better than mine? I bet it has....

Always take care of your people.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

4. The interenet is full os shiit talkers and wanna wb tough guys like the Ricky / Burnsy duo. Face to face they would learn respect and humility quickly.
5.

While I am no tough guy I do post under my own name and so does Rick.

You hide behind a screen name.

We all can see you're having a tough time and good luck with the surgery.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

4. The interenet is full os shiit talkers and wanna wb tough guys like the Ricky / Burnsy duo. Face to face they would learn respect and humility quickly.
5.

While I am no tough guy I do post under my own name and so does Rick.

You hide behind a screen name.

We all can see you're having a tough time and good luck with the surgery.

Good for you Burnsy. I never hide.

I also offered you my phone number and a plane ticket. No response.
Who is the one hiding....

You laid low for a few days Burnsy....

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

4. The interenet is full os shiit talkers and wanna wb tough guys like the Ricky / Burnsy duo. Face to face they would learn respect and humility quickly.
5.

While I am no tough guy I do post under my own name and so does Rick.

You hide behind a screen name.

We all can see you're having a tough time and good luck with the surgery.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Took a quip trip to work to take some of staff for updated events.

1. Surgery Feb 2nd
1. Union President who is a great friend of mine wifes just past from cancer.
3. Plans in my for my absence as Plant Manager who would be assuming additional responsibilities.

Thoughts on here.
1. Post counts are non value added.
2. Far from my life history. Only nice highlights possibly to make someone smile.
3. You may not want the dark sides of someones life. Some would be more respectful and put more thought into a reply.
4. The interenet is full os shiit talkers and wanna wb tough guys like the Ricky / Burnsy duo. Face to face they would learn respect and humility quickly.
5. No one owns a thread you may have started. Ric Bin owns it all.
6. If you can make a persons day better or make them smile it is a win.
7. Negativity is everywhere. Ignore it.
8. There is an ignore feature on this site. Use it if will help your delicate side.
9. Be nice, if you do not have anything positive to say, be silent.

#3 and the post about real life problems hit awful close for a few of us.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I also offered you my phone number and a plane ticket. No response.
Who is the one hiding....

You're an Internet Rando sending out Random #s.

And you're afraid to post under your name.

Maybe, in your condition, you would be better off not threatening to fight people on the internet?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

4. The interenet is full os shiit talkers and wanna wb tough guys like the Ricky / Burnsy duo. Face to face they would learn respect and humility quickly.
5.

While I am no tough guy I do post under my own name and so does Rick.

You hide behind a screen name.

We all can see you're having a tough time and good luck with the surgery.

The only thing I struggle with is fake poser drunken fuucks like you Burnsy boy...

Offer is still good Burnsy.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I also offered you my phone number and a plane ticket. No response.
Who is the one hiding....

You're an Internet Rando sending out Random #s.

And you're afraid to post under your name.

Maybe, in your condition, you would be better off not threatening to fight people on the internet?

Show me where I posted the word "fight" Burnsy??

We post actual shooting and hunting pictures and you post like a teenager with MEMEs

Ole meme Burnsy. You're a winner boy....

You should stay in your lane Burnsy...

Some people should stick to wiring and not welding.

free image uploader

I feel better knowing that we've all come together on this and reached a consensus.

For those who have never been to Rocky Mountain National Park

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by badger

Originally Posted by VaHunter

Lets see, over 27,500 posts in 13 months or so. Looks like you like to talk about yourself.

I don't see a problem with that, do you.

Mark's posts have quality content, and it's clear that he's been there and done that. I see nothing but the reflections of a life lived to the fullest........

Probably be great in a “post every picture you’ve taken in your entire life” thread in the “Document your entire life” Forum

Not so much in stick’s “Scopes” thread in the “Optics” Forum

👌🏼

^^🤣

Originally Posted by hillestadj

I feel better knowing that we've all come together on this and reached a consensus.

We're singing Kumbaya and trying to finish up a fire poker and welding art golfer here in the frozen tundra.

It's a Festivus Miracle!!!!!!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by hillestadj

I feel better knowing that we've all come together on this and reached a consensus.

We're singing Kumbaya and trying to finish up a fire poker and welding art golfer here in the frozen tundra.

It's a Festivus Miracle!!!!!!

Brother goalie for the win. The kids are looking forward to your gift of generosity. You are first class my friend.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Holy crap - see the size of that squirrel on the 2nd ridge back?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Brother goalie for the win. The kids are looking forward to your gift of generosity. You are first class my friend.

Probably get it sent tomorrow.

That was:

Randy Rando
111 Rando Drive
Randoville, USA

Right????

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Holy crap - see the size of that squirrel on the 2nd ridge back?

12.3 mils. You have great eyes Teal!

What is left from a big fire that hit the Sierras by Bass Lake

https://abc30.com/creek-fire-shaver-lake-firer/6420148/

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Holy crap - see the size of that squirrel on the 2nd ridge back?

12.3 mils. You have great eyes Teal!

I'm fuggin Bubbles from TPG.

My first wife and I were there in the early 70s. Don't think we were ever back. Cool place.

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

My first wife and I were there in the early 70s. Don't think we were ever back. Cool place.

Yes it is. Just not in the winter.

Too keep us compliant....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Too keep us compliant....

Dealer's Choice!!!

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308 Win, 300 HAM'R, 300 B/O sub-sonic

ya!

GWB

I'll take the 300 Hamr for the win GWB

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Iowa is pretty this time of year.

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Iowa is pretty this time of year.

Been through there several times. I concur that it is a nice state.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll take the 300 Hamr for the win GWB

I wuz' born to be mild!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

100 yds.

Yowsir!

It works for runnin' and gunnin'.

Good choice!

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll take the 300 Hamr for the win GWB

I wuz' born to be mild!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

100 yds.

Yowsir!

It works for runnin' and gunnin'.

Good choice!

ya!

GWB

You chose wisely my friend.

Avocados 6/$1? Best around here us .65C ea….
Some places $1/ea.

Wasn’t there a scope thread somewhere around here?
Laffin’

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Avocados 6/$1? Best around here us .65C ea….
Some places $1/ea.

Wasn’t there a scope thread somewhere around here?
Laffin’

6mm was cruising 152 past San Luis reservoir??? Pretty close to me…

Did you see any of the elk that hang around that pond?

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll take the 300 Hamr for the win GWB

I wuz' born to be mild!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

100 yds.

Yowsir!

It works for runnin' and gunnin'.

Good choice!

ya!

GWB

Have had a .30 caliber for an AR on my mind for a while. This has been where I am leaning.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Avocados 6/$1? Best around here us .65C ea….
Some places $1/ea.

Wasn’t there a scope thread somewhere around here?
Laffin’

Quien Sabe,

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I'll take the 300 Hamr for the win GWB

I wuz' born to be mild!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

100 yds.

Yowsir!

It works for runnin' and gunnin'.

Good choice!

ya!

GWB

Have had a .30 caliber for an AR on my mind for a while. This has been where I am leaning.

I had one and was quite fond of it. it would serve you well.

Originally Posted by Certifiable

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Avocados 6/$1? Best around here us .65C ea….
Some places $1/ea.

Wasn’t there a scope thread somewhere around here?
Laffin’

6mm was cruising 152 past San Luis reservoir??? Pretty close to me…

Did you see any of the elk that hang around that pond?

Let's get together sometime.

Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Have had a .30 caliber for an AR on my mind for a while. This has been where I am leaning.

Bill Wilson posts on Texas Hunting Forums. There are innumerable pages of posts in regards to the 300 HAM'R

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7506626/1/wilson-combat-300-hamr

ya!

GWB

A good point and shoot scope

Back at ya with a decent day/night ATN X-Sight 4K Pro!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

With me, I never cared about cars, rocks, dinosaurs, or hardly anything else, it was always a gun, and it started early.

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Originally Posted by Jim270

With me, I never cared about cars, rocks, dinosaurs, or hardly anything else, it was always a gun, and it started early.

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Good man... Guns are nice.

Good man... Guns are nice.[/quote]

Bears heads are nice!

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300 Hamr. They work for killin'

Like better

Atheris 224 V

Cannon scope

good thread, fugg the nay sayers . I like pics. of things I will never see in real life

Originally Posted by 44mc

good thread, fugg the nay sayers . I like pics. of things I will never see in real life

Agreed.

Less than zero fuucks given what they think. How are making out down in Flo Rida?

Originally Posted by geedubya

Back at ya with a decent day/night ATN X-Sight 4K Pro!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Dead piggy. Nice job ole buddy

200 yards 10/22

Burris Scope, Feddersen barrel ,Kidd trigger , works very well, keeper

not bad , fixing to call it quits after 45 years of beating on steel to play with the grandbratts

Good for you and congrats. I'll have 40 years in on 4-16. Get body refurbished and Hasta La Vista

Been rough but I'm tough

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Are we doing mail? I love mail!!!

Outbound "teed up" if you will. 😁

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Are we doing mail? I love mail!!!

Outbound "teed up" if you will. 😁

Right on brother Goalie. Many thanks my friend

Merica

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Right on brother Goalie. Many thanks my friend

My pleasure. It's the campfire way 😉

I think your daughter will like the surprise.

not bad , fixing to call it quits after 45 years of beating on steel to play with the grandbratts

doing to many things at one time ,sorry

Good deal. Enjoy everyday you have left.

Taco coues day….

BROTHER JUD! where dafooq have you been?

Poaching, banging Pom poms, talkin bout [bleep] I don’t know about, sittin on my couch, runnin [bleep] riggin, the usual. 😂

In Tucson right now, coming back from a epic hunt👊🏻

Glad you are well brother.

Bloody decks in the new boat, salmon and crab 👍

Originally Posted by Judman

Poaching, banging Pom poms, talkin bout [bleep] I don’t know about, sittin on my couch, runnin [bleep] riggin, the usual. 😂

In Tucson right now, coming back from a epic hunt👊🏻

Glad you are well brother.

Bloody decks in the new boat, salmon and crab 👍

Sounds like you be living the dream. Living Large Brother Jud!

Whoever gets that 300 HAMR will love it and the 125 TNT load. Scarry accurate.

May 2021 was 45 years working at what I enjoyed and being paid for it. Since then every day is a Saturday, doing as I please, for family, others, myself, and my Doggo.

River is 10 yo today. He's a good boy.

Originally Posted by Judman

Poaching, banging Pom poms, talkin bout [bleep] I don’t know about, sittin on my couch, runnin [bleep] riggin, the usual. 😂

In Tucson right now, coming back from a epic hunt👊🏻

Glad you are well brother.

Bloody decks in the new boat, salmon and crab 👍

Welcome back, Jud! Post a pic of the hunt you fugger

going

Originally Posted by longarm

Originally Posted by Judman

Poaching, banging Pom poms, talkin bout [bleep] I don’t know about, sittin on my couch, runnin [bleep] riggin, the usual. 😂

In Tucson right now, coming back from a epic hunt👊🏻

Glad you are well brother.

Bloody decks in the new boat, salmon and crab 👍

Welcome back, Jud! Post a pic of the hunt you fugger

Originally Posted by longarm

Originally Posted by Judman

Poaching, banging Pom poms, talkin bout [bleep] I don’t know about, sittin on my couch, runnin [bleep] riggin, the usual. 😂

In Tucson right now, coming back from a epic hunt👊🏻

Glad you are well brother.

Bloody decks in the new boat, salmon and crab 👍

Welcome back, Jud! Post a pic of the hunt you fugger

Good living right there.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

May 2021 was 45 years working at what I enjoyed and being paid for it. Since then every day is a Saturday, doing as I please, for family, others, myself, and my Doggo.

River is 10 yo today. He's a good boy.

Happy Birthday Doggo River. Enjoy your day to the fullest.

Congrats on your retirement sir. I am sure it was well earned....

Got er done Jud. He be growing up quickly!

Six, text with a pic. Please. The lake, some pics up is beautiful, where?

And cruising up a canal with a 35 footer listening to the engine(s) , cool. But where would ya turn it around.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Six, text with a pic. Please. The lake, 2 pics up is beautiful, where?

And cruising up a canal with a 35 footer listening to the engine(s) , cool. But where would ya turn it around.

Kinzua Damn. By Warren Pa. Spent a lot of youth there

Been some epic meltdowns, swan songs from the cuunts I hear?😂😂

Originally Posted by Judman

Been some epic meltdowns, swan songs from the cuunts I hear?😂😂

That be the rumor on da street....

Hello there Jud, hope all is well. Looks like you had a nice coues hunt.

Where we met

Daughter was made here

My bud calls, an old Marine VN vet, and asked, what ya doin? Havin a cocktail, surfin the net.

What ya drinkin? Vodka, Gatorade, with a couple cherries. Did you say cherries? Yep. You pussy. click.

Grew up here. 1050 sq feet

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Hello there Jud, hope all is well. Looks like you had a nice coues hunt.

Hey uncle Johnny, yes, Mexico was epic. No place like it. I was scared the whole time, wanted my momma, very scary place!! 😂😘

Titos and Ginger ale for me. Just sippin easy

Originally Posted by Judman

Howdy!

Been a while.

Happy New Year to you and yours!

Good to see you posting again.

Ascerbic wit may make a comeback!

ya!

GWB

JFC…. Jud’s back. I’m going to pour a double.
Laffin’

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Been busy, I hear Alwaysbitingpillows was yappin bout me being ascairt? Haha

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

Nice work Judd. head shots are awesome

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Hello there Jud, hope all is well. Looks like you had a nice coues hunt.

Hey uncle Johnny, yes, Mexico was epic. No place like it. I was scared the whole time, wanted my momma, very scary place!! 😂😘

Last time I hunted there NW of Hermosillo was in 2012. Love MX, great people, great hunting. I expect to see more pics.....please?

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Brother 6,

I knew this would bring out other Brothers. LOL

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Dad's are the best. Had to put mine in a memory care facility this year at age 88. Didn't get to hunt near as much as usual. We sure whacked some game back in the day though. He too me mule deer hunting when I was 11 in 1971. Been hooked ever since.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Is this not legal Ricky? Burnsy whacks at a mile or so...

You’re only 63?

JFC you look ready for a walker in the very few pics you’ve hung

LMAO

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Dad's are the best. Had to put mine in a memory care facility this year at age 88. Didn't get to hunt near as much as usual. We sure whacked some game back in the day though. He too me mule deer hunting when I was 11 in 1971. Been hooked ever since.

Refuse to do so. Pay my sister to give him the best care. She does a great job.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Is this not legal Ricky? Burnsy whacks at a mile or so...

750 yard shots are legal. Hitting one in the eye I’m sure was the result of jerking the trigger

😂

I hear you.....taking care of mom now too. I'm the last kid left.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Is this not legal Ricky? Burnsy whacks at a mile or so...

750 yard shots are legal. Hitting one in the eye I’m sure was the result of jerking the trigger

😂

Or planned properly. looks like it worked.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

That's close to or at B&C for a Coues.

I don't think Jud took the shot and I don't think anyone is aiming for the head on Trophy Coues at any range, much less 750 yds. Bust the skull plate or hit a horn.

Tell the hows and whys, Jud. Looks like a good hunt down south.

Brother Burns popped somebody’s primer

Originally Posted by JGRaider

I hear you.....taking care of mom now too. I'm the last kid left.

He can barely speak a word. Can't get em out anymore...

Bud in Michigan just buried his mom last week. Has noone now. Wife died of cancer.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Hello there Jud, hope all is well. Looks like you had a nice coues hunt.

Hey uncle Johnny, yes, Mexico was epic. No place like it. I was scared the whole time, wanted my momma, very scary place!! 😂😘

Last time I hunted there NW of Hermosillo was in 2012. Love MX, great people, great hunting. I expect to see more pics.....please?

Oh I will

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Is this not legal Ricky? Burnsy whacks at a mile or so...

750 yard shots are legal. Hitting one in the eye I’m sure was the result of jerking the trigger

😂

Or planned properly. looks like it worked.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Hey Rick, ya somebody did. 😂😂

Spotted mine at 720, ended up “hunting” mine to 340, BOW 6.5 prc 147’s 1 and done👊🏻

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Is this not legal Ricky? Burnsy whacks at a mile or so...

750 yard shots are legal. Hitting one in the eye I’m sure was the result of jerking the trigger

😂

Or planned properly. looks like it worked.

You and Burnsy like those stupid fuucking childish memes

dafooq boy.... what is wrong with you too?

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Dad's are the best. Had to put mine in a memory care facility this year at age 88. Didn't get to hunt near as much as usual. We sure whacked some game back in the day though. He too me mule deer hunting when I was 11 in 1971. Been hooked ever since.

Took my Ol man to Montana this year74, took his best muley at 489, model 7 7saum 30 yo leupold 3.5-10.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

That's close to or at B&C for a Coues.

I don't think Jud took the shot and I don't think anyone is aiming for the head on Trophy Coues at any range, much less 750 yds. Bust the skull plate or hit a horn.

Tell the hows and whys, Jud. Looks like a good hunt down south.

Yessir John, few book bucks ate shiit.👊🏻

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by Judman

Back to scopes, I saw some very impressive work via huskemaw the last week. I know I know I don’t shoot much but boy they seem to work pretty handily..

28 huskemaw at 750 in the eyeball

You purposely took a head shot at 750 yards?

Is this not legal Ricky? Burnsy whacks at a mile or so...

750 yard shots are legal. Hitting one in the eye I’m sure was the result of jerking the trigger

😂

Or planned properly. looks like it worked.

You and Burnsy like those stupid fuucking childish memes

dafooq boy.... what is wrong with you too?

It pretty much centerpunched the point. You seem hurt

😂

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Dad's are the best. Had to put mine in a memory care facility this year at age 88. Didn't get to hunt near as much as usual. We sure whacked some game back in the day though. He too me mule deer hunting when I was 11 in 1971. Been hooked ever since.

Took my Ol man to Montana this year74, took his best muley at 489, model 7 7saum 30 yo leupold 3.5-10.

Good on you brother Judd. My can barely get a word out now..... Painful

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Dad's are the best. Had to put mine in a memory care facility this year at age 88. Didn't get to hunt near as much as usual. We sure whacked some game back in the day though. He too me mule deer hunting when I was 11 in 1971. Been hooked ever since.

Took my Ol man to Montana this year74, took his best muley at 489, model 7 7saum 30 yo leupold 3.5-10.

Good on you brother Judd. My can barely get a word out now..... Painful

I hear 'ya. Toughest man I've every known.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Won't be around much longer. Hell of a father, told him I wish I was half as good as him.

Dad's are the best. Had to put mine in a memory care facility this year at age 88. Didn't get to hunt near as much as usual. We sure whacked some game back in the day though. He too me mule deer hunting when I was 11 in 1971. Been hooked ever since.

Took my Ol man to Montana this year74, took his best muley at 489, model 7 7saum 30 yo leupold 3.5-10.

Good on you brother Judd. My can barely get a word out now..... Painful

I hear 'ya. Toughest man I've every known.

Mine too.... told him I wish I was half as good as you. He gave me stink eye

BTW, I recommend deadlifts and Romanian Deadlifts to improve your back situation

Getting stronger is never the wrong answer

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

BTW, I recommend deadlifts and Romanian Deadlifts to improve your back situation

Getting stronger is never the wrong answer

Thanks, Brother Rick . Back pain is the pits.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Brother 6,

I knew this would bring out other Brothers. LOL

Alwaysbitingpillows, did you actually get “outdoors” this year of you just talk shiit and bitch all year?

Some people have a sore pussy after imagining that Trump grabbed it. LOL . Fugkin Losers

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's close to or at B&C for a Coues.

I don't think Jud took the shot and I don't think anyone is aiming for the head on Trophy Coues at any range, much less 750 yds. Bust the skull plate or hit a horn.

Tell the hows and whys, Jud. Looks like a good hunt down south.

Yessir John, few book bucks ate shiit.👊🏻

But both you and I know nobody tried to make a head shot on that coues.

The bullet might have hit the eye ball but that was a fail on both elevation and windage and the poor buck stuck his eye ball in the wrong place.

Pretending to be Defag isn’t your strong suit, fuuck Biden and trump. If either parties can’t find better candidates than those 2 dummies, we’re in a whole lotta trouble

Originally Posted by Judman

Hey Rick, ya somebody did. 😂😂

Doubt it. They told you they did after yanking the shot and getting really lucky

Originally Posted by Judman

Pretending to be Defag isn’t your strong suit, fuuck Biden and trump. If either parties can’t find better candidates than those 2 dummies, we’re in a whole lotta trouble

Has Deflave paid his rent, Brother Jud? Seems like a class action opportunity around here. LOL

Originally Posted by Judman

Pretending to be Defag isn’t your strong suit, fuuck Biden and trump. If either parties can’t find better candidates than those 2 dummies, we’re in a whole lotta trouble

Fuqk.

Brother Judd... looks like the rats are looking for some fun tonight.

My friend Burnsy arrived....

Fun while it lasted.

Short lived gunzo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Short lived gunzo

LOL.

Thread drift in the hunting optics forum to hunting optics.

Who saw that coming?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Short lived gunzo

LOL.

Thread drift in the hunting optics forum to hunting optics.

Who saw that coming?

Hold your breath till you pass out Burnsy. Then repeat process ....

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by gunzo

Six, text with a pic. Please. The lake, 2 pics up is beautiful, where?

And cruising up a canal with a 35 footer listening to the engine(s) , cool. But where would ya turn it around.

Kinzua Damn. By Warren Pa. Spent a lot of youth there

Tidioute????

Originally Posted by battue

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by gunzo

Six, text with a pic. Please. The lake, 2 pics up is beautiful, where?

And cruising up a canal with a 35 footer listening to the engine(s) , cool. But where would ya turn it around.

Kinzua Damn. By Warren Pa. Spent a lot of youth there

Tidioute????

Close by

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Short lived gunzo

LOL.

Thread drift in the hunting optics forum to hunting optics.

Who saw that coming?

Hold your breath till you pass out Burnsy. Then repeat process ....

Slight respiratory pause on trigger press. I do top of the lungs.

Haven’t seen anything in the long range resumé from the fused dude. Plenty of paper punched at bow range though

Hey 6, any long range game taken?

Ricky... are your little nuts starting to drop tonight?

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

You are far out of your league with my son.

You have my number, give a call.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

Call, we will talk pussy boy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call, we will talk pussy boy

Damn man, you’re passing up an opportunity to post thousands of pictures of your long range expertise?

Weird for a dude who spent the last 96 hours posting every 30 seconds

Call me biitch

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call me biitch

So you got ziltch?

So your a cuunt?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

So your a cuunt?

A simple “you’re right” would have sufficed

😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did wear some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Two biggest homos on the internet. Burnsy boy, how did you let your physical appearance and decline to the level that it is now. Lack of self discipline and excessive alcohol. You capillaries in your face are alarming.

Hope you have a cardio dr on speed dial.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Ricky... the only thing you lap up is Burnsy sweaty ball sack and stinky ass.

As compared to your very frail and delicate appearance

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Two biggest homos on the internet. Burnsy boy, how did you let your physical appearance and decline to the level that it is now. Lack of self discipline and excessive alcohol. You capillaries in your face are alarming.

Not only do you need a surgeon but ….

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Two biggest homos on the internet. Burnsy boy, how did you let your physical appearance and decline to the level that it is now. Lack of self discipline and excessive alcohol. You capillaries in your face are alarming.

Not only do you need a surgeon but ….

An adolescent with childish memes. 2 clowns at best

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky... the only thing you lap up is Burnsy sweaty ball sack and stinky ass.

Post up some pics of long range domination

Steel, targets, game.

I know you can shoot

Did... go back and look dumb asss

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky... the only thing you lap up is Burnsy sweaty ball sack and stinky ass.

And you’re talking about “childish”

Fuqking hilarious!

Give me a call, we'll talk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Pretty sad sack looking for pity.

The "dropping 2 legs" thing has taken me over the top.

Fucker never served. Fucker never dropped anyone.

Now I am pissed I spent a night being nice to this azzhat.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Did... go back and look dumb asss

Lol

Through your 1000 posts on this clusterfuqk you created?

Riiight…..

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Damn Burnsy.... your are in bad shape. Heart will shutting down soon. Life is full of choices. Looks like you are on borrowed time. poor Ricky will be lost without you.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Pretty sad sack looking for pity.

The "dropping 2 legs" thing has taken me over the top.

Fucker never served. Fucker never dropped anyone.

Now I am pissed I spent a night being nice to this azzhat.

I told you. 😁

Maybe I’m The Wizard?

😂😂😂😂

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Pretty sad sack looking for pity.

The "dropping 2 legs" thing has taken me over the top.

Fucker never served. Fucker never dropped anyone.

Now I am pissed I spent a night being nice to this azzhat.

Are you sure about that chilidog Burnsy?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Pretty sad sack looking for pity.

The "dropping 2 legs" thing has taken me over the top.

Fucker never served. Fucker never dropped anyone.

Now I am pissed I spent a night being nice to this azzhat.

I told you. 😁

Maybe I’m The Wizard?

😂😂😂😂

In your own mind.

Damn Burnsy... you should be on the cover of GQ

You let yourself decline horribly

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Damn Burnsy.... your are in bad shape. Heart will shutting down soon. Life is full of choices. Looks like you are on borrowed time. poor Ricky will be lost without you.

….says the pitiful fuqk with a fused spine from head to ass that has posted the fact he drowns his misery in alcohol continuously

I’m crying I’m laughing so hard!

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Damn Burnsy.... your are in bad shape. Heart will shutting down soon. Life is full of choices. Looks like you are on borrowed time. poor Ricky will be lost without you.

….says the pitiful fuqk with a fused spine from head to ass that has posted the fact he drowns his misery in alcohol continuously

I’m crying I’m laughing so hard!

Poor Burnsy. Only a matter on time for its all over for him.

You too homos are made for each other.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Pretty sad sack looking for pity.

The "dropping 2 legs" thing has taken me over the top.

Fucker never served. Fucker never dropped anyone.

Now I am pissed I spent a night being nice to this azzhat.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I told you. 😁

Maybe I’m The Wizard?

😂😂😂😂

Yes, yes you did and no I did not listen. No good deed goes unpunished.

I will say you might also be a WIZARD.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Damn Burnsy.... your are in bad shape. Heart will shutting down soon. Life is full of choices. Looks like you are on borrowed time. poor Ricky will be lost without you.

….says the pitiful fuqk with a fused spine from head to ass that has posted the fact he drowns his misery in alcohol continuously

I’m crying I’m laughing so hard!

far from misery and alcohol Ricky. Sad a [bleep] bitch like you won't call.

Pusssyboy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dropped plenty in my day. both 2 and 4 legs

Post’em up with details

Beats the hell out of random life pics of hardware, signs, targets, and rocks

LOL.

The guy has litterally a hard drive full of rando range pictures and girly picts but nothing of game.

Now he wants to pretend he is dropping humans?

GTFO.

Good luck on your surgery.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

And the groupies lap it up

Hilarious!

😆

Well he did were some camo when shooting a .22 LR.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

…with very serious “I’m a badass” looks on his mug while posing

😝

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Pretty sad sack looking for pity.

The "dropping 2 legs" thing has taken me over the top.

Fucker never served. Fucker never dropped anyone.

Now I am pissed I spent a night being nice to this azzhat.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

I told you. 😁

Maybe I’m The Wizard?

😂😂😂😂

Yes, yes you did and no I did not listen. No good deed goes unpunished.

I will say you might also be a WIZARD.

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Gay ass Bursny with memes. Atta boy

Excessive alcohol consumption can result in long-term consequences, including redness in the face. Some people who experience facial redness notice the redness goes away once they quit drinking alcohol.

How can anyone allow the to decline you have Burns?

No Discipline boy...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You too homos are made for each other.

So no real evidence of your awesomeness

Nice pictures of your vacations though and rifles laying on couches

👍🏼

Ricky... call me, I'll buy you a first class ticket and we will spend the day in the desert shooting together.

We will see how big a boy you really are instead of a keyboard commando.

Game?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

How can anyone allow the to decline you have Burns?

No Discipline boy...

Well I do sleep all night long and get up in the morning feeling really good.

Just gave my back a little twist and got 3 nice pops.

Feeling pretty good.

Sure this this is way you want to go?

This is the Hunting Optics Forum, not the "my life sucks worse than anyone forum".

I am done being nice.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

How can anyone allow the to decline you have Burns?

No Discipline boy...

Well I do sleep all night long and get up in the morning feeling really good.

Just gave my back a little twist and got 3 nice pops.

Feeling pretty good.

Sure this this is way you want to go?

This is the Huniting Optic Forum, not the "my life sucks worse than anyone forum".

I am done being nice.

Enjoy the sleep that you get know. With all the signs of heart disease written all over your face your time is limited. I would continue on the path that you are on which is cardio vascular disease and obesity. Death should come quickly.

The keyboard is your friend Burnsy.

Mr Burns says

Quote

I am done being nice.

Well, thar ya go. Yer buddy Twink cumaglia will follow suit in his/her support role.

Couple of tards.

Twink, post up that YouTube vid you have of your skinny self setup in the Tee box titled "Perfection"

Hope it is quick and painless Burnsy.

Burnsy is on borrowed time and too stupid to see the signs. Poor Burnsy.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

How can anyone allow the to decline you have Burns?

No Discipline boy...

Well I do sleep all night long and get up in the morning feeling really good.

Just gave my back a little twist and got 3 nice pops.

Feeling pretty good.

Sure this this is way you want to go?

This is the Huniting Optic Forum, not the "my life sucks worse than anyone forum".

I am done being nice.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Enjoy the sleep that you get know. With all the signs of heart disease written all over your face your time is limited. I would continue on the path that you are on which is cardio vascular disease and obesity. Death should come quickly.

The keyboard is your friend Burnsy.

Good luck on the surgery.

Funny thing is I am actually hoping for a good outcome.

That's because I am not a simpering dick and would never wish ill health on another.

Again the best of wishes.

Burnsy.... seek help at once so you can keep on keeping on. You are such a world of knowledge here on 24CF.
What will Ricky do without you? Think of poor Ricky.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Well I do sleep all night long and get up in the morning feeling really good.

Just gave my back a little twist and got 3 nice pops.

Feeling pretty good.

Sure this this is way you want to go?

😂😂🤣🤣

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

How can anyone allow the to decline you have Burns?

No Discipline boy...

Well I do sleep all night long and get up in the morning feeling really good.

Just gave my back a little twist and got 3 nice pops.

Feeling pretty good.

Sure this this is way you want to go?

This is the Huniting Optic Forum, not the "my life sucks worse than anyone forum".

I am done being nice.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Enjoy the sleep that you get know. With all the signs of heart disease written all over your face your time is limited. I would continue on the path that you are on which is cardio vascular disease and obesity. Death should come quickly.

The keyboard is your friend Burnsy.

Good luck on the surgery.

Funny thing is I am actually hoping for a good outcome.

That's because I am not a simpering dick and would never wish ill health on another.

Again the best of wishes.

Burnsy... I give less than zero fuucks what a phony like you thinks. Waiting on your call pal. call... we will talk.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Well I do sleep all night long and get up in the morning feeling really good.

Just gave my back a little twist and got 3 nice pops.

Feeling pretty good.

Sure this this is way you want to go?

😂😂🤣🤣

Ricky gets so giddy when you post. he likes to respond with funny faces. Match made it heaven you two dorks are. That's my daddy and mentor Burnsy!

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

No words....

Your stance sucks. Way off balance Burnsy. Fundamentals are horrible.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Good luck on the surgery.

Funny thing is I am actually hoping for a good outcome.

That's because I am not a simpering dick and would never wish ill health on another.

Again the best of wishes.

One thing’s for sure JB, you go out of your way to give random swinging dicks who disparage and attack you, the benefit of the doubt

It’s apparent to anyone paying attention on this forum.

👍🏼

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... seek help at once so you can keep on keeping on. You are such a world of knowledge here on 24CF.
What will Ricky do without you? Think of poor Ricky.

Rick hardly need me.

And rest assured I will keep on keepin on. SHOT SHOW 2024 is looking better than ever.

Good luck with that whole back surgery thing.

While guys like you revel in attacking others I only hope for a good outcome.

Litterally, I hope you get fixed. For real.

It must be awful to be in your condition and I understand why you might strike out. I would not wish that on anyone.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Good luck on the surgery.

Funny thing is I am actually hoping for a good outcome.

That's because I am not a simpering dick and would never wish ill health on another.

Again the best of wishes.

One thing’s for sure JB, you go out of your way to give random swinging dicks who disparage and attack you, the benefit of the doubt

It’s apparent to anyone paying attention on this forum.

👍🏼

About like you sucking on the end of his little peter Ricky.

Holy Fook you two are quite the comedy team.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy.... seek help at once so you can keep on keeping on. You are such a world of knowledge here on 24CF.
What will Ricky do without you? Think of poor Ricky.

Rick hardly need me.

And rest assured I will keep on keepin on. SHOT SHOW 2024 is looking better than ever.

Good luck with that whole back surgery thing.

While guys like you revel in attacking others I only hope for a good outcome.

Litterally, I hope you get fixed. For real.

It must be awful to be in your condition and I understand why you might strike out. I would not wish that on anyone.

My condition is stellar. Yours.... look in the mirror son. You are on borrowed time Burnsy ole boy.

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Your stance sucks. Way off balance Burnsy. Fundamentals are horrible.

Drive 10 shots into a 3 inch bull at 10 yards in under 2.25 seconds.

I'll wait.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Your stance sucks. Way off balance Burnsy. Fundamentals are horrible.

Drive 10 shots into a 3 inch bull at 10 yards in under 2.25 seconds.

I'll wait.

I would not even attempt to brag on such a trivial trigger yanking contest. Embarrassing and best and nut licker Ricky approves. Ho Lee Fooq.

You both are an embarrassment to the shooting world.

Carpe Diem boys. give her hell...

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Wait?

What?

You don't think I should call the Dial a Boner Number?

Fuck me you are a WIZARD.

Dumber and Dumbest.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Wait?

What?

You don't think I should call the Dial a Boner Number?

Fuck me you are a WIZARD.

Do you need help to do Ricky in the ass? Call if you must Burnsy.

You seem to struggle at everything else Chief Red Face.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Wait?

What?

You don't think I should call the Dial a Boner Number?

Fuck me you are a WIZARD.

Don't be scared Burnsy Boy...

Medical help is available Burnsy. Don't wait... Ricky couldn't function without you.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Wait?

What?

You don't think I should call the Dial a Boner Number?

Fuck me you are a WIZARD.

Do you need help to do Ricky in the ass? Call if you must Burnsy.

You seem to struggle at everything else Chief Red Face.

Life is a struggle yet I seem to do well. You seem unable to post game pictures. But we all saw that coming.

Brag some more about the 2 legged critter you have shot, STOLEN VALOR.

Take along deep look at this picture Burnsy... you need serious medical attention.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Wait?

What?

You don't think I should call the Dial a Boner Number?

Fuck me you are a WIZARD.

Do you need help to do Ricky in the ass? Call if you must Burnsy.

You seem to struggle at everything else Chief Red Face.

Lots of random life pics, dogs, landscapes, buddies.

Still not one picture of you with a long range big game animal you’ve taken with details

Or of a major National Match finish

Hundreds of posts in 96 hours

Sick fuqk

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... call, lets talk. Friend.

LOL. OMG!

Wait?

What?

You don't think I should call the Dial a Boner Number?

Fuck me you are a WIZARD.

Do you need help to do Ricky in the ass? Call if you must Burnsy.

You seem to struggle at everything else Chief Red Face.

Life is a struggle yet I seem to do well. You seem unable to post game pictures. But we all saw that coming.

Brag some more about the 2 legged critter you have shot, STOLEN VALOR.

Burns... is this suppose to impress me dumbasss?

Burnsy.... take a very long look at these pictures of you. This is startling. Seek help now.

Text book lack of self discipline son. RIP soon Burnsy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Take along deep look at this picture Burnsy... you need serious medical attention.

I don't think I am scheduled for major life altering back surgery?

How about you?

I do wish you well and really hope for a good outcome. Really do hope you get fixed.

Maybe the Docs came remove a lot of that bitterness?

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

That's really good news.

You have been running up the pity party in the Hunting Optics Forum.

Maybe you can quit posting medical pictures?

How about you post some hunting pictures?

Such good news.

Burnsy... change your lifestyle and habits soon before it is too late.

Ricky needs you. Please compare the two pictures of you. Open your eyes and mind Burnsy. Just do it for Ricky. He needs you badly.

"Perfection"

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

And this from a guy who posted that his friends pick him up in the morning to go to a match and have to roll down the window to get the stench of scotch out of the vehicle

👍🏼

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

That's really good news.

You have been running up the pity party in a the Hunting Optics Forum.

Maybe you can quit posting medical pictures?

How about you post some hunting pictures?

Such good news.

Only pity I have is for your Burnsy. Sad little man...

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

And this from a guy who posted that his friends pick him up in the morning to go to a match and have to roll down the window to get the stench of scotch out of the vehicle

👍🏼

Best part is I won

Ricky... you must love licking Bursnsy ballz

You two are unbelievable. No shame in your game son.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

"Perfection"

Work on the calves Twink, I've seen better legs on a spider.

Before we had Yeti money.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky... you must love licking Bursnsy ballz

You two are unbelievable. No shame in your game son.

Are you having problems posting pictures now?

Weird since you’ve posted hundred of pictures of bullschidt for 3 days

😝

You skipped leg day a time or two. Embarrassing at best.

Surprised you post a gay video like that. No shame in your game boy. Godd Damn son

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

That's really good news.

You have been running up the pity party in a the Hunting Optics Forum.

Maybe you can quit posting medical pictures?

How about you post some hunting pictures?

Such good news.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Only pity I have is for your Burnsy. Sad little man...

Good news is you don't have to pity anyone not whining about heath issues in the Hunting Optic Forum.

We are all good.

We post lots of hunting pictures.

You should give it a shot.

No medical pictures, no scenic pictures, no Rando match pictures, just some nice pictures that have some thing to do with Hunting Optics.

That would be great.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky... you must love licking Bursnsy ballz

You two are unbelievable. No shame in your game son.

Are you having problems posting pictures now?

Weird since you’ve posted hundred of pictures of bullschidt for 3 days

😝

Weird you all full of bullshit. And very delicate also. Squats could be your friend Ricky

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

That's really good news.

You have been running up the pity party in a the Hunting Optics Forum.

Maybe you can quit posting medical pictures?

How about you post some hunting pictures?

Such good news.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Only pity I have is for your Burnsy. Sad little man...

Good news is you don't have to pity anyone not whining about heath issues in the Hunting Optic Forum.

We are all good.

We post lots of hunting pictures.

You should give it a shot.

No medical pictures, no scenic pictures, no Rando match pictures, just some nice pictures that have some thing to do with Hunting Optics.

That would be great.

Burnsy... see the cardio Dr soon. Ricky won't make it without you.

Please , do it for Ricky.

Burnsy... you should post a picture of you with a big ole chili dog in your mouth instead to Ricky's twinky.

Gay boys...

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Work on the calves Twink, I've seen better legs on a spider.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You skipped leg day a time or two. Embarrassing at best.

Surprised you post a gay video like that. No shame in your game boy. Godd Damn son

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

There does seem to be a few here on the fire that love to check out other dudes. I always did know they were gay but I don't judge you gay guys.

Originally Posted by SimpleJimmy

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Before we had Yeti money.

Beautiful country Sam, thank you!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Work on the calves Twink, I've seen better legs on a spider.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You skipped leg day a time or two. Embarrassing at best.

Surprised you post a gay video like that. No shame in your game boy. Godd Damn son

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

There does seem to be a few here on the fire that love to check out other dudes. I always did know they were gay but I don't judge you gay guys.

Originally Posted by SimpleJimmy

That is you Burnsy. Along with your gay ass memes.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

That's really good news.

You have been running up the pity party in a the Hunting Optics Forum.

Maybe you can quit posting medical pictures?

How about you post some hunting pictures?

Such good news.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Only pity I have is for your Burnsy. Sad little man...

Good news is you don't have to pity anyone not whining about heath issues in the Hunting Optic Forum.

We are all good.

We post lots of hunting pictures.

You should give it a shot.

No medical pictures, no scenic pictures, no Rando match pictures, just some nice pictures that have some thing to do with Hunting Optics.

That would be great.

I’ll try to be a role model for the struggling fused boy

Ricky shaves his legs and has aids.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Mine is not life altering. You numbnuts have a serious illness that you fail to recognize or address.

Enjoy the short ride Burnsy.

That's really good news.

You have been running up the pity party in a the Hunting Optics Forum.

Maybe you can quit posting medical pictures?

How about you post some hunting pictures?

Such good news.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Only pity I have is for your Burnsy. Sad little man...

Good news is you don't have to pity anyone not whining about heath issues in the Hunting Optic Forum.

We are all good.

We post lots of hunting pictures.

You should give it a shot.

No medical pictures, no scenic pictures, no Rando match pictures, just some nice pictures that have some thing to do with Hunting Optics.

That would be great.

I’ll try to be a role model for the struggling fused boy

This means what Ricky? You shave your legs and ballz? You and Burnsy sure are odd at best.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky shaves his legs and has aids.

I didn’t think it would be this easy to make you fold

You seemed to have so much stamina posting every 30 seconds for the last 3 days.

Paper tiger

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Ricky... you try impress all here so hard and convincing of shooting and the same ole pictures. None of it works. It is quite concerning on all the effort you and Bursnsy boy do.

Hell... I would just pull out my dick and silence the crowd and make you and Burnsy look even more dumber.

Wanna be Burnsy and Ricky. Look at me! You two are made for each other. G1 and G2

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Work on the calves Twink, I've seen better legs on a spider.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You skipped leg day a time or two. Embarrassing at best.

Surprised you post a gay video like that. No shame in your game boy. Godd Damn son

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

There does seem to be a few here on the fire that love to check out other dudes. I always did know they were gay but I don't judge you gay guys.

Originally Posted by SimpleJimmy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is you Burnsy. Along with your gay ass memes.

I, unlike you, have hunting pictures.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky shaves his legs and has aids.

I didn’t think it would be this easy to make you fold

You seemed to have so much stamina posting every 30 seconds for the last 3 days.

Paper tiger

Ricky boy.... there is no quit it me son. you could get get yourself in a very bad place with no way out son.

By all means... keep entertain the masses with your low IQ

Originally Posted by 6creedmoron

Hell... I would just pull out my dick and silence the crowd and make you and Burnsy look even more dumber.

This wouldn’t surprise me.

Please don’t post any photos

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Work on the calves Twink, I've seen better legs on a spider.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You skipped leg day a time or two. Embarrassing at best.

Surprised you post a gay video like that. No shame in your game boy. Godd Damn son

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

There does seem to be a few here on the fire that love to check out other dudes. I always did know they were gay but I don't judge you gay guys.

Originally Posted by SimpleJimmy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is you Burnsy. Along with your gay ass memes.

I, unlike you, have hunting pictures.

What makes you so sure of the Ricky that is near death from heart failure or cardiovascular disease.

Do you really know how dumb you look in that picture? Denial.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Work on the calves Twink, I've seen better legs on a spider.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You skipped leg day a time or two. Embarrassing at best.

Surprised you post a gay video like that. No shame in your game boy. Godd Damn son

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Cause checking out dudes is gayer'n aids.

There does seem to be a few here on the fire that love to check out other dudes. I always did know they were gay but I don't judge you gay guys.

Originally Posted by SimpleJimmy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

That is you Burnsy. Along with your gay ass memes.

I, unlike you, have hunting pictures.

Such a very gay look. No wonder you too [bleep] are in love with each other. Do either of you have a woman or just each other?

Ole Red Faced and Shaved legs. Doesn't get any better than this. [bleep] boys you are quite the duo!

Which one of you two are the top or bottom?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I, unlike you, have hunting pictures.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

What makes you so sure of the Ricky that is near death from heart failure or cardiovascular disease.

Do you really know how dumb you look in that picture? Denial.

Man your IQ is off the scale

It’s “two”. Two is a number

“Too” means also

You’ve been posting that all Fuqking week, so it’s not a mistake.

Einstein

I posted a video of lots of heads on the wall. You two dorks have nothing. go back to school and lear again Burnsy Ricky. Add another gay meme to before you have cardiac arrest.

Ricky... do you like sausage?

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

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+/- 200 yds.

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+/- 120 yds.

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Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, Rattle-Can Paint, by Moi!, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds,

and..... Leupold

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I posted a video of lots of heads on the wall. You two dorks have nothing. go back to school and lear again Burnsy Ricky. Add another gay meme to before you have cardiac arrest.

Someone throw this dude a life preserver

😂😆🤣😝

Ricky... are you the top or bottom for Burnsy? Must be very awkward for you two?

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

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+/- 200 yds.

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+/- 120 yds.

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Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I posted a video of lots of heads on the wall. You two dorks have nothing. go back to school and lear again Burnsy Ricky. Add another gay meme to before you have cardiac arrest.

Someone throw this dude a life preserver

😂😆🤣😝

Hold your breath till you pass out . then repeat process . Do you advertise for Nair Ricky?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

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+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Low IQ hunters do this

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I posted a video of lots of heads on the wall. You two dorks have nothing. go back to school and lear again Burnsy Ricky. Add another gay meme to before you have cardiac arrest.

LOL. Got a hard drive full of bullshit range picture and scenics. Yet you claim 2 legged and 4 legged heads?

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STOLEN VALOR lying AZZHOLE.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

What else you got girlfriend?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I posted a video of lots of heads on the wall. You two dorks have nothing. go back to school and lear again Burnsy Ricky. Add another gay meme to before you have cardiac arrest.

LOL. Got a hard drive full of bullshit range picture and scenics. Yet you claim 2 legged and 4 legged heads?

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

STOLEN VALOR lying AZZHOLE.

Burnsy's safe zone. Memes. Cuunt.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

Since GW posted the pics, I’m sure he’ll appreciate your opinion

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You two are pathetic at best. Almost embarrassing.

Nah... it is embarrassing. Salute

You drunk POS

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/-500 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

Since GW posted the pics, I’m sure he’ll appreciate your opinion

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You two fools combined are not half of GWBs IQ. Try again Gay boy

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Angry Ricky. Go shave your legs homo

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Angry Ricky. Go shave your legs homo

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Ticket available to say it to my face. You never respond because you are leg shaven cuunt.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

Since GW posted the pics, I’m sure he’ll appreciate your opinion

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You two fools combined are not half of GWBs IQ. Try again Gay boy

You can’t weasel out of that one Pierre Deflecto

😂

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/-500 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

Since GW posted the pics, I’m sure he’ll appreciate your opinion

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

He was made of meat, was a freebie, and I am an opportunist with a rifle and a camera!

Ya!

GWB

Don't even have the balls to call me bare legs.

Nair Ricky

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/-500 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

Since GW posted the pics, I’m sure he’ll appreciate your opinion

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

He was made of meat, was a freebie, and I am an opportunist with a rifle and a camera!

Ya!

GWB

😂

GWB is also 72. He gets a pass. You are just hairless cuunt.

Where did Red Face Burnsy go? More booze or Chili dogs?

Red face Burnsy
No leg hair Ricky

Match made it heaven

Off to make my wife moan and feel pleasure from a real man. Ricky... you and Bursnsy go practice. You need to up your lame asss act. Operation Red Face and hairless legs.

Hard to believe you too wanna hard chargers thinks so highly of yourself and will not call me. Keep hiding being the screen the delicate duo.

rcamuglia - translation R Cum Ula

Peace out biitch

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Ticket available to say it to my face. You never respond because you are leg shaven cuunt.

You're facing life altering surgery to fuse your entire spinal colum because you make really bad choices in life yet you want still want to make really bad choices in life?

Grow the fuck up.

Just fer schitz' n giggles.......

Another Sendero Stroller taken a couple weeks after the 6 pt.

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Steyr Pro Hunter, 7 Mag, 160 gr. Nosler Partitions, Meopta Artemis Scope.

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He was made of meat also!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Ticket available to say it to my face. You never respond because you are leg shaven cuunt.

You're facing life altering surgery to fuse your entire spinal colum because you make really bad choices in life yet you want still want to make really bad choices in life?

Grow the fuck up.

Poor Burnsy. You are fubar and you don't know it..

If you do not have medical insurance I will help you get well Burnsy.

You appearance is concerning

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Ticket available to say it to my face. You never respond because you are leg shaven cuunt.

You're facing life altering surgery to fuse your entire spinal colum because you make really bad choices in life yet you want still want to make really bad choices in life?

Grow the fuck up.

You are stupid you post your thoughts with no data. That is troubling Cheif Red Face

Don't have a cardiovascular failure on us Burnsy. I will help you little buddy. You just won't call me.

Poor red face 🥵 Burnsy

Where is Nair Ricky at?

Here’s another that you and 2dogsfucqking can get to jerkin’ your gherkins to

😂🤣😝

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

You drunk POS

Ticket available to say it to my face. You never respond because you are leg shaven cuunt.

You're facing life altering surgery to fuse your entire spinal colum because you make really bad choices in life yet you want still want to make really bad choices in life?

Grow the fuck up.

Poor Burnsy. You are fubar and you don't know it..

If you do not have medical insurance I will help you get well Burnsy.

You appearance is concerning

I am not the one posting my Catscans and Xrays in the Hunting Optics Forum.

You need to quit attacking the world and focus on fixing your broken self.

You have a long road ahead and all this is just hiding.

I would imagine facing your issues is scary. Suck it up Buttercup.

I am going to be finer that frog hairs. You focus on getting better.

Litterally every single Memeber of the 24 hr Campfire is on your side and hope for a great outcome.

Good Luck.

This thread has gotten seriously off the charts weird, even for this place.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Here’s another that you and 2dogsfucqking can get to jerkin’ your gherkins to

😂🤣😝

That appears to be request. What a phhhagg

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

You need to quit attacking the world and focus on fixing your broken self.

.

Lol lol that's rich coming from the drunk walrus lol lol

Dude has packed on 200lbs since his decades old glory photos...and he's handing out advice.

Here's some advice tres chins, put the f ucking fork down lol

Originally Posted by jackmountain

This thread has gotten seriously off the charts weird, even for this place.

yep, I doubt anyone here (assuming they were sober)would say any of this stuff in person to the other, without fear that it might escalate into jail time.

Originally Posted by jimmyp

Originally Posted by jackmountain

This thread has gotten seriously off the charts weird, even for this place.

yep, I doubt anyone here (assuming they were sober)would say any of this stuff in person to the other, without fear that it might escalate into jail time.

Twitter Link

Originally Posted by Teal

Originally Posted by jimmyp

Originally Posted by jackmountain

This thread has gotten seriously off the charts weird, even for this place.

yep, I doubt anyone here (assuming they were sober)would say any of this stuff in person to the other, without fear that it might escalate into jail time.

Twitter Link

That's what alcohol does to people. Take note burns, put down the bottle.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

This has to be the best post yet in this train wreck…..lol

Head of marketing LOL

Originally Posted by jackmountain

This thread has gotten seriously off the charts weird, even for this place.

This ^^^

to

so , has the little guy in alaska gotten around to testing the other two scopes in his OP ?

Originally Posted by WyomingArmsJeff

Hey John Burns

Originally Posted by Timbermaster

Bump

Originally Posted by Timbermaster

I’m

Originally Posted by Timbermaster

going

Originally Posted by Timbermaster

to

What?

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by WyomingArmsJeff

The boss is not going to fire tatorhead giggles. Who would sweep the shop floors ?

Brother Rick,

If you were a gif

Originally Posted by MrWilson

so , has the little guy in alaska gotten around to testing the other two scopes in his OP ?

How would a guy ever know? You'd have to dig through a hundred pages of vacation pictures intermixed with death threats....

I get the feeling there are people on here who jerk off to pictures of themselves

Originally Posted by Teal

Twitter Link

That went south quick
Dang that’s hard to watch . I think that’s a product of alcohol and kid’s living too long at home.

Originally Posted by JeffP

Originally Posted by Teal

Twitter Link

That went south quick
Dang that’s hard to watch . I think that’s a product of alcohol and kid’s living too long at home.

Apparently he winged him in the ear. Later the cops would show up and the old guy who shot killed himself.

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That is about 2 miles from my house. Things got weird there....

Evening. Very interesting conversation for sure. Have a good one. Nice bucks Gee!!

Evening all. Full and interesting day at work. Kinda like here.

Pick out the Navy Seal.

3rd guy back row, from the right. Black shirt, tell might be the big watch. Just a wag.

Negative. Other end

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Negative. Other end

Second guy from the left next to the man in the light blue shirt.

Originally Posted by Longbob

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Negative. Other end

Second guy from the left next to the man in the light blue shirt.

Bingo.

It's easy to see the SEAL with the Gold Ring on his optic.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It's easy to see the SEAL with the Gold Ring on his optic.

Atta boy Burnsy. How are you doing tonight my friend?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It's easy to see the SEAL with the Gold Ring on his optic.

Atta boy Burnsy. How are you doing tonight my friend?

Good.

How you feelin?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It's easy to see the SEAL with the Gold Ring on his optic.

Atta boy Burnsy. How are you doing tonight my friend?

Good.

How you feelin?

Doing ok. Thanks for asking.

I bet those guys just love when people flash their pics all over the internet in some retarded Jr High
Cock length competition.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

I bet those guys just love when people flash their pics all over the internet in some retarded Jr High
Cock length competition.

To be fair, they take serious ribbing for the sheer amount of books they write about their BUD's class and whatever obscure operation they may or may not have been involved in.

As to the picture, that was a tough one, I saw 4-5 solid candidates

He appreciative that his grandparents have us for next door neighbors. No worries....

Carpe Diem men..

Have to go meet SWAT Team now.

Dandy buck in the background 6mm..

Good shooting today!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It's easy to see the SEAL with the Gold Ring on his optic.

Lol lol

Free hunt, free gun, AND a free hat. You really roll out the red carpet for your "shooter mcgavin" lol

It's a good day to make some brass for two new barrels.

Good shootin'

-Al

Dabblin' new wares myself and mulling barrel choices,amongst other things. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Torn,though I've a "hunch" which will balance better. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

I will say that I like the Area 419 gear I have, very nice quality and well presented.

Nice haul Stick and Al..

Life is good men.

419 is quality

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

419 is quality

Until I got to hold and use it myself I didn't really grasp how much of a difference there is.

It is just easier!

Never heard of 'em. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Worth every penny.

Buy once cry once.

Quality trumps all......

That is where I have arrived at.

Solid rules to follow

Things lock,as they should. AT-X extended forend in Duck Schit Green on the way. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Winning brother stick

Looks great 👍🏻

Originally Posted by JSTUART

That is where I have arrived at.

You bought a Zero from them - correct? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Yes, one of my better purchases.

I mean...I am really pleased with it.

Prior to that I had a t-7 with a creedmoor head...and the difference is night and day.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Yes, one of my better purchases.

I mean...I am really pleased with it.

Prior to that I had a t-7 with a creedmoor head...and the difference is night and day.

They look super cool and beefy - I'm still old school Rock Chucker but wondering if the Zero would be an upgrade in quality of produced ammo. Not that the RC is bad - but a big ass Zero on the bench, gives a guy warm fuzzies.

Accuracy International machine work,strikes me as being rather Skookum. No inclusions or weirdness,though Dust Bunnies in their lube. Might CerroSafe,if only to delve deeper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Teal

They look super cool and beefy - I'm still old school Rock Chucker but wondering if the Zero would be an upgrade in quality of produced ammo. Not that the RC is bad - but a big ass Zero on the bench, gives a guy warm fuzzies.

When I full length size fired 270 win or 7x64 it feels like sizing 223 rem. And I have the handle about half way in.

If you go that way be sure to get the 419 die ring set and the 419 shell holder set with the Zero. It is worth it.

Added: A local shooter came around and tried the Zero and managed to crush a Lapua 7x64 without feeling it...I did though, I really liked that Lapua case.

But shit happens.

This is the third set of 30BR cases I've done using my 'DeLumper Die'.

When you expand a 6BR up to .30, there's a 'lump' at the bottom of the neck from what used to be part of the shoulder. The 'lump' measures right at .335. The 'lump' has a lot of hoop strength and gives a lot of neck runout...something you don't want when neck turning as you blend into the shoulder. A Redding 7BR Body Die has a port opening of .311 so I ordered a couple of carbide reamers stepped from .311 to .327.
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Made this stub and threaded it 7/8-14:
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Put an 'o' ring between the stub and the lock ring to give it some 'float', indicated it up and went in with the reamer and plenty of Moly D fluid:
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Straight and a nice finish:
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Dykem shows the external lump is gone. It doesn't go to the inside as you might think...it's displaced to the upper part of the inner shoulder.
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Neck runout pre de-lumping:
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Same case post de-lumping:
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I set this one up to blend way down into the shoulder for illustration. Appreciable runout would show an irregular 'wave cut' around the shoulder.
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A bore scope was used for the pic inside the neck area of the die....so I guess this is somewhat on topic??????

Most definitely on topic.

The Sinclair is a good unit isn't it.

From the hip and as a "hunch",this was a rather great call as balance and handling goes. I like to both feel and see headspace and this on the Alpha Virgin money. Hint.

I've had a borescope for a goodly while and haven't even taken it out of it's packaging. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

From the hip and as a "hunch",this was a rather great call as balance and handling goes. I like to both feel and see headspace and this on the Alpha Virgin money. Hint.

I've had a borescope for a goodly while and haven't even taken it out of it's packaging. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

I suspect a borescope has 'ruined' many a good bbl.....

Accuracy/Precision can't be "seen",it MUST be shot(which why I Live Fire scopes),though nice machine work is obviously warm/fuzzy. .620 BC Smooches at 2.445" COAL and all jives nicely,by literal design in the K&P 1-7" spout. Pardon burnout marks,from flogging on the mag fed dummy,in cycle after cycle. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

If the Dasher spout is schit,I'll fall back to the OEM and see WTF. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Things lock,as they should. AT-X extended forend in Duck Schit Green on the way. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

LOL R&D!!!!

Sad as sad can be. God bless the unfortunate one.

Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Accuracy International machine work,strikes me as being rather Skookum. No inclusions or weirdness,though Dust Bunnies in their lube. Might CerroSafe,if only to delve deeper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Most impressive machining. 👏

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...........

Oh yeah !!! the stickmister is rockn the R&D.
Let us know how that goes for you sticky, it's ten years ago stuff with you just found it twist.
I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the findings.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Accuracy International machine work,strikes me as being rather Skookum. No inclusions or weirdness,though Dust Bunnies in their lube. Might CerroSafe,if only to delve deeper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Most impressive machining. 👏

Right, pretty cutting edge stuff.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Accuracy International machine work,strikes me as being rather Skookum. No inclusions or weirdness,though Dust Bunnies in their lube. Might CerroSafe,if only to delve deeper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Post up some of your handy work on that grizzly collecting dust in the shop on, 1 shït street Craig, AK 99921. LOL.

Load Development is over and now I'll put a scope on it. Loaded (2) charge weights,(3rds) a piece and pressure came down on upper charge weight,as moly was laid down. 32.0grs VarGay in Alpha Virgins,CCI 450's and a 112 magfed Smooch. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Load Development is over and now I'll put a scope on it. Loaded (2) charge weights,(3rds) a piece and pressure came down on upper charge weight,as moly was laid down. 32.0grs VarGay in Alpha Virgins,CCI 450's and a 112 magfed Smooch. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

LOL. Saddest stuff I've seen on the internet.

Write me another note to prove you care.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Accuracy International machine work,strikes me as being rather Skookum. No inclusions or weirdness,though Dust Bunnies in their lube. Might CerroSafe,if only to delve deeper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Most impressive machining. 👏

Yessirree...

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Pardon wares that exist. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Paint us the whole picture. Show the new lathe

Love that you hang on my every word sticky. God bless you.

Imitation is the MOST Sincere form of Flattery and you gals be sure to cite how many times a day you think about me. Your "knowledge",is "impressive". Hint.

Pardon reality,as you gals Pretend aloud. Hint.

I like Grizzlies. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Imitation is the MOST Sincere form of Flattery and you gals be sure to cite how many times a day you think about me. Your "knowledge",is "impressive". Hint.

Pardon reality,as you gals Pretend aloud. Hint.

I like Grizzlies. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

3m will make that mess look better. Google emery cloth and thank me later.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Accuracy/Precision can't be "seen",it MUST be shot(which why I Live Fire scopes),though nice machine work is obviously warm/fuzzy. .620 BC Smooches at 2.445" COAL and all jives nicely,by literal design in the K&P 1-7" spout. Pardon burnout marks,from flogging on the mag fed dummy,in cycle after cycle. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Accuracy is always improved with higher pressures and bullets seated into the rifling...Hint

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Kiss,find pressure and rock on. It's been mentioned and a constant. Hint.

I like my Grizzly on high RPM and rotation towards me. Hint.

You gals keep saving,to split a down payment on your first camera. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

World Class. Ain't easy! Could not imagine anyone carrying more.

3700fps my fúckn azz. LOL.

Nothing to do but laugh and wait for the pics from the ER.

Thanks, Brother Stick

I’m in for a down payment

Ladies,

Kudos on your Twatly Trifecta,as you feverishly concoct Stories on how your Pretend is "REAL" to you. Hint.

I simply gun multiple sensor sizes and without peer,while making it look easy(because it is for me). Hint.

Pass the APS-H,White Glass and The REAL Outdoors,as you Clueless Kchunts try to out-Meme your Dumbfhuqktitude during your Pretendathon(s). Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Taking "scope" of things

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lifes a beach!

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ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ladies,

Kudos on your Twatly Trifecta,as you feverishly concoct Stories on how your Pretend is "REAL" to you. Hint.

I simply gun multiple sensor sizes and without peer,while making it look easy(because it is for me). Hint.

Pass the APS-H,White Glass and The REAL Outdoors,as you Clueless Kchunts try to out-Meme your Dumbfhuqktitude during your Pretendathon(s). Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Boy those are some tiny hands.

Finished the afternoon by pointing some 117's.

I put the Hawkeye down the barrel of a new-to-me sad sack project...just to see how nasty it was. And it was. The Wipe Out will get some overtime duty with this one.

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Fortunately for you and your HomoErotic Fantasies,you can quip from afar while "living" vicariously and sustain your "needs". You "lucky" kchunt. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

All good shiit men. All good....

ya!

GWB

Tough to beat Geriatric Crying CLUELESS Brtokedick Fhuqks,lamenting their Retardation,by doing their fhuqking BEST. Hint.

To be continued. Hint............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Accuracy/Precision can't be "seen",it MUST be shot(which why I Live Fire scopes),though nice machine work is obviously warm/fuzzy. .620 BC Smooches at 2.445" COAL and all jives nicely,by literal design in the K&P 1-7" spout. Pardon burnout marks,from flogging on the mag fed dummy,in cycle after cycle. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Boy that's a snazzy rifle you bought. I get a smile knowing it has a nice aluminum bedding block.

Well Played but we all know it was your only play to finally own a good rifle.

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Fortunately for you and your HomoErotic Fantasies,you can quip from afar while "living" vicariously and sustain your "needs". You "lucky" kchunt. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

You ought to burn that fuqed up looking hat...........

GREAT place to quantify Records set by same,as you set on your Kchunt and "perfect" your Professional Victim Status Speeches. Hint.

I simply suffer Reupolds. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

GREAT place to quantify Records set by same,as you set on your Kchunt and "perfect" your Professional Victim Status Speeches. Hint.

I simply suffer Reupolds. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

The estrogen faaggss

Let's see

At my age I find that I enjoy my ZZZZZZZZZZ's .......

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More than the ability to "Trac"

ya!

GWB

GWB.... Z's for the win my friend!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

Interesting multiple personalities

Jekyll and Hyde

One minute it’s “Hello Friend” and “Thanks Friend”, then the next it’s “bitch-ass” and “red faced” boozer

Fuqking whack job

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

Interesting multiple personalities

Jekyll and Hyde

One minute it’s “Hello Friend” and “Thanks Friend”, then the next it’s “bitch-ass” and “red faced” boozer

Fuqking whack job

Nair legs... we will never be friends.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

Interesting multiple personalities

Jekyll and Hyde

One minute it’s “Hello Friend” and “Thanks Friend”, then the next it’s “bitch-ass” and “red faced” boozer

Fuqking whack job

Nair legs... we will never be friends.

No shidt

I’m crushed

😂😂😂

You are a very frail man biitch

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You are a very frail man biitch

You have no clue mutherfuqker

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

You are a very frail man biitch

You have no clue mutherfuqker

How curious are nair legs?

Are you a big enough boy?

It is called ‘busting balls’.

Being dicks to each other, but with healthy sarcasm.

It is what real dudes do, besides drink cheap beer, oogle the fatties and kill things.

This concludes today’s lesson.

Very fragile and delicate Nair legs Ricky

Originally Posted by T_Inman

It is called ‘busting balls’.

Being dicks to each other, but with healthy sarcasm.

It is what real dudes do, besides drink cheap beer, oogle the fatties and kill things.

This concludes today’s lesson.

Word T....

post

Ricky SR71A suck on that boy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Very fragile and delicate Nair legs Ricky

More like a very fragile, completely fused spine, from head to ass, Marky

And you think you can scrap in that condition

Keep on thinking it.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Very fragile and delicate Nair legs Ricky

More like a very fragile, completely fused spine, from head to ass, Marky

And you think you can scrap in that condition

Keep on thinking it.

How curious are you Nair legs. Sent number/ funds for ticket if you want.

Crickets frail legs Ricky

C'mon Ricky boy

Post that gay ass video swing again. need a good laugh for tonight.

Atta boy Ricardo Nair stick legs

rcamuglia = very close to cum u la Nair boy

godd damn Diego wap top

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Post that gay ass video swing again. need a video of something I’ll never be able to do to dream about

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Ricky

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Brother Ricky and Brother Burns get a lot of tough love here .LOL

Self induced / gluten for punishment. Stupid is as stupid does..

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Brother Ricky and Brother Burns get a lot of tough love here .LOL

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Self induced / gluten for punishment. Stupid is as stupid does..

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Brother Ricky and Brother Burns get a lot of tough love here .LOL

Marky

Brother Rick is gluten free.

Ricky..... didn't get like this from piano playing son.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky..... didn't get like this from piano playing son.

The Age Spots?

LMFAO

That’s from a zillion knuckle sandwiches, Brother Rick

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Self induced / gluten for punishment. Stupid is as stupid does..

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Brother Ricky and Brother Burns get a lot of tough love here .LOL

Marky

Damn boy.... is this all you got Nair Legs?

Pathetic.. Too much estrogen in you Nair Legs Ricky

Godd Damnn Son... you is most impressive of a male species.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky..... didn't get like this from piano playing son.

The Age Spots?

LMFAO

Per the medical professionals it is from long time impact Nair Legs. Up your grame Nair Legs.

C'mon estrogen boy..... bring it

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Self induced / gluten for punishment. Stupid is as stupid does..

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Brother Ricky and Brother Burns get a lot of tough love here .LOL

Marky

Damn boy.... is this all you got Nair Legs?

Pathetic.. Too much estrogen in you Nair Legs Ricky

What’s your last name Marky?

A big, tough guy like you blotting out his last name in photos, too afraid to show it makes everyone think you’re a chickenshidt blowhard

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Self induced / gluten for punishment. Stupid is as stupid does..

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

“ Nair Legs “ is tough love , Brother

Grab the bull by the horns and there are consequences..

Brother Ricky and Brother Burns get a lot of tough love here .LOL

Marky

Damn boy.... is this all you got Nair Legs?

Pathetic.. Too much estrogen in you Nair Legs Ricky

What’s your last name Marky?

A big, tough guy like you blotting out his last name in photos, too afraid to show it make everyone think you’re a chickenshidt blowhard

You have my number chicken shiit.

Been waiting on your call Nair Legs.

Originally Posted by JGRaider

You know where to find me Marky

What’s your address?

What’s your last name?

Originally Posted by T_Inman

It is called ‘busting balls’.

Being dicks to each other, but with healthy sarcasm.

It is what real dudes do, besides drink cheap beer, oogle the fatties and kill things.

This concludes today’s lesson.

Amen

Call Ricky biitch. Don't be scared homie

Just call him , Brother, Rick.

Call Rick. C'mon boy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call Ricky biitch. Don't be scared homie

What’s your last name?

What’s your address?

Mine’s posted

Who’s the bitch?

Originally Posted by JGRaider

You're one low life peice of shit.

Egging on a guy, 6MM, who has major life altering surgery ahead, probably going to be invalid, and is circling the drain self medicating in major depression.

Damn but you're a low life.

Ricky boy Ricky boy... you would be my biitch son....

it would be very traumatizing to you. call me Nair Legs Ricky

Don't be scare homie

its not hard son

all you have to do is call Nair Legs Ricky

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JGRaider

You're one low life peice of shit.

Egging on a guy, 6MM, who has major life altering surgery ahead, probably going to be invalid, and is circling the drain self medicating in major depression.

Damn but you're a low life.

Low life is too flattering

Brother Ricky, calm down. Do you have dependents?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JGRaider

You're one low life peice of shit.

Egging on a guy, 6MM, who has major life altering surgery ahead, probably going to be invalid, and is circling the drain self medicating in major depression.

Damn but you're a low life.

Red Face Burnsy...,. hold your breath till you pass out.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky boy Ricky boy... you would be my biitch son....

it would be very traumatizing to you. call me Nair Legs Ricky

Don't be scare homie

its not hard son

all you have to do is call Nair Legs Ricky

You’re too chickenschidt to post it.

Game, set, Match

Bitch.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

Interesting multiple personalities

Jekyll and Hyde

One minute it’s “Hello Friend” and “Thanks Friend”, then the next it’s “bitch-ass” and “red faced” boozer

Fuqking whack job

Nair legs... we will never be friends.

No shidt

I’m crushed

😂😂😂

Your built in instinct to cup nuts, leads me towards actually believe that you truly are crushed.
Had to be difficult being the butt of everything funny.

Yo Red Face Burnsy... the video if for you

Booth 14349.
SHOT SHOW

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

The chickenschidt anonymous crippled bitch speaks

Whack job

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

Interesting multiple personalities

Jekyll and Hyde

One minute it’s “Hello Friend” and “Thanks Friend”, then the next it’s “bitch-ass” and “red faced” boozer

Fuqking whack job

Nair legs... we will never be friends.

No shidt

I’m crushed

😂😂😂

Your built in instinct to cup nuts, leads me towards actually believe that you truly are crushed.
Had to be difficult being the butt of everything funny.

I figured Brother Rick as the butt.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Ricky, calm down. Do you have dependents?

They are all in John's azz but sure they count.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JGRaider

You're one low life peice of shit.

Egging on a guy, 6MM, who has major life altering surgery ahead, probably going to be invalid, and is circling the drain self medicating in major depression.

Damn but you're a low life.

Low life is too flattering

LGBTQ+ with scarecrow legs........what a pearl you are.

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

JGRaider enter the chat. Welcome JG

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo Red Face Burnsy.... too much booze or did you powder your nose tonight?

Your personality is predictable. Where is bitch asss no hair legs Nair Ricky at?

Interesting multiple personalities

Jekyll and Hyde

One minute it’s “Hello Friend” and “Thanks Friend”, then the next it’s “bitch-ass” and “red faced” boozer

Fuqking whack job

Nair legs... we will never be friends.

No shidt

I’m crushed

😂😂😂

Your built in instinct to cup nuts, leads me towards actually believe that you truly are crushed.
Had to be difficult being the butt of everything funny.

I figured Brother Rick as the butt.

LOL.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Booth 14349.
SHOT SHOW

That's intimidating if I've ever seen it......

RG Cumlord Nair Legs

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Booth 14349.
SHOT SHOW

That's intimidating if I've ever seen it......

We will all need therapy after eye wrenching photo!
JG for the win

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

JGRaider enter the chat. Welcome JG

broomstick legs and a lardass for the win!!!!

Stick are you R&D'n the deep fryer or still trying to figure out how to clean up that [bleep] thread and chamber job.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Booth 14349.
SHOT SHOW

That's intimidating if I've ever seen it......

We will all need therapy after eye wrenching photo!
JG for the win

If I were the desert section of the SHOT Show buffet I'd be trembling right now.....

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

JGRaider enter the chat. Welcome JG

broomstick legs and a lardass for the win!!!!

^^^folded like a wet Kleenex when I offered to drive to his home and take him to lunch^^^

LMFAO

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Booth 14349.
SHOT SHOW

That's intimidating if I've ever seen it......

We will all need therapy after eye wrenching photo!
JG for the win

If I were the desert section of the SHOT Show buffet I'd be trembling right now.....

My eyes! OUCH Red face Burnsy Cardiovascular

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

bird legs gives weightlifting advice too, all 5'6" and 145lbs of him.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

JGRaider enter the chat. Welcome JG

broomstick legs and a lardass for the win!!!!

^^^folded like a wet Kleenex when I offered to drive to his home and take him to lunch^^^

LMFAO

All if you have to do is call... bum bum bum bum

Nair Legs. Just call

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JGRaider

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

JGRaider enter the chat. Welcome JG

broomstick legs and a lardass for the win!!!!

^^^folded like a wet Kleenex when I offered to drive to his home and take him to lunch^^^

LMFAO

I told you then, I'll tell you again, I don't go out to eat with homoqueers.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

Brother Rick,

Brother Burns publicly threatened to shoot people based on their 2nd amendment rights. In the name of advancing his employer.

He pm’ed me he was 5’7-1/2” and 171 lbs. I didn’t respond .

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Rick,

Brother Burns publicly threatened to shoot people based on their 2nd amendment rights. In the name of advancing his employer.

I’m not your brother

You’re definitely everyone’s sister

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Rick,

Brother Burns publicly threatened to shoot people based on their 2nd amendment rights. In the name of advancing his employer.

I’m not your brother

You’re definitely everyone’s sister

And you're everyone's biitch Nair Legs

Originally Posted by T_Inman

It is called ‘busting balls’.

Being dicks to each other, but with healthy sarcasm.

It is what real dudes do, besides drink cheap beer, oogle the fatties and kill things.

This concludes today’s lesson.

How was the pride convention?

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Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

You can always come visit me. Is that a problem for you? The address is posted and just let me know when it’s convenient for you

👌🏼

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Rick,

Brother Burns publicly threatened to shoot people based on their 2nd amendment rights. In the name of advancing his employer.

I’m not your brother

You’re definitely everyone’s sister

Snap!!! Can't out gay that cum back with out a " I know you are but what am I ". LOL
Rick, are you heading to shot show to fluff John's pillow.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

You can always come visit me. Is that a problem for you? The address is posted and just let me know when it’s convenient for you

👌🏼

Why won't you call Ricky Boy? Big a Big Boy Ricky. Did your nuts not descend yet?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

You can always come visit me. Is that a problem for you? The address is posted and just let me know when it’s convenient for you

👌🏼

…since you’re to afraid to post your last name and address

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

You can always come visit me. Is that a problem for you? The address is posted and just let me know when it’s convenient for you

👌🏼

…since you’re to afraid to post your last name and address

Cum u la

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

You can always come visit me. Is that a problem for you? The address is posted and just let me know when it’s convenient for you

👌🏼

…since you’re to afraid to post your last name and address

As the fire turns!

Call me Cum U la

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

R cum u la

you're winning nair legs

keep on boy

Your full name and address are not loading

You’ve posted a few pics, so we know you can figure it out

Must be a vaginal issue

Yo bird legs... all you have to do is call... Beatles. Bum Bum Bum

Address and full name twat

If you can’t do that, you’ve cemented yourself in this forum as a weak pussy

PATHETIC excuse for a male. God Damn Nair Legs. Shake my fuucking head at your estrogen level son

You can always come visit me. Is that a problem for you? The address is posted and just let me know when it’s convenient for you

👌🏼

…since you’re to afraid to post your last name and address

The fear is in you son.... call biitch

You go Girl

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cum u la

What’s my name?!?!

Originally Posted by geedubya

ya!

GWB

Now we are getting somewhere.

Blue line boner for the win.

Anytime Nair legs. That's just my game....

God Damn son you are a trainwreck for sure

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

It is called ‘busting balls’.

Being dicks to each other, but with healthy sarcasm.

It is what real dudes do, besides drink cheap beer, oogle the fatties and kill things.

This concludes today’s lesson.

How was the pride convention?

Stellar.
I made new friends and got laid.
What’s not to like?

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Cum u la

What’s my name?!?!

Cum U La is your name biitch boy

C'mon Ricky Boy.... Bring more

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Anytime Nair legs. That's just my game....

God Damn son you are a trainwreck for sure

Come to 1935 Eubank NE
Albuquerque, NM

Give me a time and I’ll meet you and buy your dinner

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

It is called ‘busting balls’.

Being dicks to each other, but with healthy sarcasm.

It is what real dudes do, besides drink cheap beer, oogle the fatties and kill things.

This concludes today’s lesson.

How was the pride convention?

Stellar.
I made new friends and got laid.
What’s not to like?

I won’t judge.

Yes I will.

Call me Nair Legs.

Don't be scared homie. C'mon Ricky Boy

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.

Not.

Somehow I get the feeling that roach hut in ABQ is also a hepatitis A, and AIDS convention. Fuggin gross.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.

Not.

Good evening brother Sam. You are a good Man.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Call me Nair Legs.

Don't be scared homie. C'mon Ricky Boy

Post you last name Marky

Post your address Marky

Don’t be scared Marky boy…

Call me homo boy

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.

Not.

Good evening brother Sam. You are a good Man.

Evidently more of a man than you

Brother Rick wants to deliver to Brother 6mm

Is the shot show open to anyone that wants to attend. ?

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.

Not.

LOL.

I am old enough to remember when you went incognito for a short while as Rez Buck.

Lots of other posters hide behind a screen name and act tough.

Ricky Nair Legs... you are in way over your head and are too stupid to realize it. Been hanging with red Face Burnsy too long Broheim...

Pick and choose son...

Originally Posted by MrWilson

Is the shot show open to anyone that wants to attend. ?

Only if you’re jealous of Brother Burns

Originally Posted by MrWilson

Is the shot show open to anyone that wants to attend. ?

LOLOLOLOL

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.

Not.

LOL.

I am old enough to remember when you went incognito for a short while as Rez Buck.

Lots of other posters hide behind a screen name and act tough.

Red Face Burnsy has entered the chat. Hi RF Burnsy. How are you this evening?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky Nair Legs... you are in way over your head and are too stupid to realize it. Been hanging with red Face Burnsy too long Broheim...

Pick and choose son...

Keep posting the same deflections

Everyone is seeing it

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by MrWilson

Is the shot show open to anyone that wants to attend. ?

LOLOLOLOL

Give Brother Burns some playtime and see how that changes , Brother Rick

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky Nair Legs... you are in way over your head and are too stupid to realize it. Been hanging with red Face Burnsy too long Broheim...

Pick and choose son...

Keep posting the same deflections

Everyone is seeing it

R Cum U La. CALL ME Friend!

Chicken shiit puussy fuuck

Waiting for last name and address for MARKY THE ANONYMOUS BITCH

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting for last name and address for MARKY THE ANONYMOUS BITCH

Call cummy ricky bobby

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.
Not.

LOL.

I am old enough to remember when you went incognito for a short while as Rez Buck.

Lots of other posters hide behind a screen name and act tough.

Red Face Burnsy has entered the chat. Hi RF Burnsy. How are you this evening?

Concerned for your well being.

Self medicating while circling the drain is a bad place for you to be prior to life altering surgery.

Depression must not be fun but this won't fix that.

Good Luck.

Ricky gonna enter a world he going to regret quickly

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting for last name and address for MARKY THE ANONYMOUS BITCH

Call cummy ricky bobby

Obviously you’re too much of a eunuch to post it on the board

The board sees that you are a sackless eunuch

Thanks for the confirmation

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.
Not.

LOL.

I am old enough to remember when you went incognito for a short while as Rez Buck.

Lots of other posters hide behind a screen name and act tough.

Red Face Burnsy has entered the chat. Hi RF Burnsy. How are you this evening?

Concerned for your well being.

Self medicating while circling the drain is a bad place for you to be prior to life altering surgery.

Depression must not be fun but this won't fix that.

Good Luck.

Drink more booze Red Face. It's working well for you

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Waiting for last name and address for MARKY THE ANONYMOUS BITCH

Call cummy ricky bobby

Obviously you’re too much of a eunuch to post it on the board

The board sees that you are a sackless eunuch

Thanks for the confirmation

Your view only chicken shiit

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by SamOlson

I've always been worried about people finding out who I am.
Not.

LOL.

I am old enough to remember when you went incognito for a short while as Rez Buck.

Lots of other posters hide behind a screen name and act tough.

Red Face Burnsy has entered the chat. Hi RF Burnsy. How are you this evening?

Concerned for your well being.

Self medicating while circling the drain is a bad place for you to be prior to life altering surgery.

Depression must not be fun but this won't fix that.

Good Luck.

Red Face Burnsy.... when is the last time you took a long hard look in the mirror son?

God damn son.. you are very delusional. Sad

490,269

Originally Posted by WyomingArmsJeff

Burns,

You fat retard . Don’t come to SHOT.

Hello Red Face and Nair Legs. More Testosterone than you two drunken fuucks together..

You go boys

^^^^^thats like kryptonite to the rump rangers.

Originally Posted by qwk

^^^^^thats like kryptonite to the rump rangers.

could be my friend...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by qwk

^^^^^thats like kryptonite to the rump rangers.

could be my friend...

There is no “could be”. LGBTQ* friendly, and that pic don’t go together.

It’ll be OK , Brother Rick

Originally Posted by qwk

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by qwk

^^^^^thats like kryptonite to the rump rangers.

could be my friend...

There is no “could be”. LGBTQ* friendly, and that pic don’t go together.

Amen brother

RFB / NLR

It's always fun when the defeated do anything to slide the thread in the Optic Forum.

Whine, threaten, hot girl pictures, medical problems, medical pictures, anything to not talk Optics in the Optics forum.

Always the tell and it's always easy to read.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Brother Burns spitting POL knowledge. Thanks, Brother .

Ole drunken RFB meme poster. Up your game one hit wonder...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

It's always fun when the defeated do anything to slide the thread in the Optic Forum.

Whine, threaten, hot girl pictures, medical problems, medical pictures, anything to not talk Optics in the Optics forum.

Always the tell and it's always easy to read.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Burnsy... are you a swallower or spitter?

Brother Rick gotta come up with a new play since you’ve already provided your personal info.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RFB / NLR

Nice scroungy coyote.

Here's 6 more furred up and some OPTICS.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Rick gotta come up with a new play since you’ve already provided your personal info.

Boy be very delicate, timid, and fraile....Poor Nair Legs

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Rick gotta come up with a new play since you’ve already provided your personal info.

Boy be very delicate, timid, and fraile....Poor Nair Legs

He made his bed right beside Brother Burns’ cot in the sanitary closet.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RFB / NLR

Nice scroungy coyote.

Here's 6 more furred up and some OPTICS.

[Linked Image]

1982 Redface?

Anything more recent before you weighed 300 lbs?

Asking for a friend RFB?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RFB / NLR

Nice scroungy coyote.

Here's 6 more furred up and some OPTICS.

[Linked Image]

Scroungey like you Red 🥵 Burnsy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RFB / NLR

Nice scroungy coyote.

Here's 6 more furred up and some OPTICS.

[Linked Image]

Assuming two men and 1 wannabe??? you go girl.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

And.... make you a big boy?

Who mounted that scope for you? JC Burnsy!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

RFB / NLR

Nice scroungy coyote.

Here's 6 more furred up and some OPTICS.

[Linked Image]

JB,

What E-caller are you guys running!

Thanx in advance,

GWB

I see you RFB...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Hunting Optic Forum

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Hunting Optic Forum

1984 RFB?

Not recent RFB...

RFB... any pictures from 2k and on? Asking for a friend....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by geedubya

JB,

What E-caller are you guys running!

Thanx in advance,

GWB

GWB,

All mouth calls that day. Howls and distress cries.

Area that had seen very little or no calling pressure and the coyotes were uneducated.

Video camera on the tripod.

JB.

Leupold

What year is this? 1990?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

All mouth calls that day. Howls and distress cries.

Area that had seen very little or no calling pressure and the coyotes were uneducated.

Video camera on the tripod.

JB.

Good Stuff!

Best,

GWB

Leupold

My latest "experience" from Reupold,involved taking a World Class Rifle that Agg's in the .2's,to this at 50yds in calm conditions(18.5# Vudoo Bartlein barreled and 2-ounce Shilen trigger). Hint.

It was their Flagship offering. Hint.

Live Fire is too much for a MK5's erector,on a TTT. Hint.................

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Lets try again.

Leupold. Who mounted that scope?

More Good Stuff RC.

Hope to spend a bit of time trapping and calling coyotes this spring (in addition to perforating hoglets)

Best,

GWB

Nutin fancy...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Lets try again.

Leupold. Who mounted that scope?

1980?

Squirm's,

While I can't even begin to fathom your Teenage Prick Looking Fantasies,you undoubtedly have your NEEDS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Too bad that Reupold doesn't make a scope that tracks,repeats or holds zero,unless one is a Teenage Prick Craving Fhuqk. Hint.

Simply swap scopes and the SPLENDORS return. Hint.

Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

My latest "experience" from Reupold,involved taking a World Class Rifle that Agg's in the .2's,to this at 50yds in calm conditions(18.5# Vudoo Bartlein barreled and 2-ounce Shilen trigger). Hint.

It was their Flagship offering. Hint.

Live Fire is too much for a MK5's erector,on a TTT. Hint.................

Mark V live fire test

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Lets try again.

Leupold. Who mounted that scope?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

1980?

Probably close.

That's LiL Fish's onlyest coyote.

He seemed to be left out of the thread so I figured if we were doing coyotes why not.

Pictures of you with a coyote seem to not be loading?

Weird?

Leupold

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Lets try again.

Leupold. Who mounted that scope?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

1980?

Probably close.

That's LiL Fish's onlyest coyote.

He seemed to be left out of the thread so I figured if we were doing coyotes why not.

Pictures of you with a coyote seem to not be loading?

Weird?

Dig deep in the archives RFB.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

Well done Cummligua

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

80s?

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Squirm's,

While I can't even begin to fathom your Teenage Prick Looking Fantasies,you undoubtedly have your NEEDS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Too bad that Reupold doesn't make a scope that tracks,repeats or holds zero,unless one is a Teenage Prick Craving Fhuqk. Hint.

Simply swap scopes and the SPLENDORS return. Hint.

Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some. Hint.................

I just wanted you to be involved in my scope thread.

You may thank me later. LiL Buddy.

Now I have the Scooby Doo theme running in my head so I guess no good deed goes unpunished.

Leupold

Squirm's is always HAPPY to divulge her Teenage Man Lust and flaunts my crank incessently...the horny kchunt. Hint.

No slighting her taste in men,as she fuels her fetishes. Hint.

Puberty was rather good to me and she relishes same. Hint..............

Coyote has more class....

Someone call the ABQ LGBTQ chapter

Leupold

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

Are you a piano player by chance? Very delicate fingers and hands you have NLR

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Coyote has more class....

So 2 is twice as much class?

I like it.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

Looks like you are pooping....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Coyote has more class....

So 2 is twice as much class?

I like it.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Extremely Red Face Burnsey....

Leupold

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Obviously you’re too much of a eunuch to post it on the board

The board sees that you are a sackless eunuch

Thanks for the confirmation

No...that is you.

Leupold

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

no words...... goddd damn son... estrogen at its best....

Leupold

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So 2 is twice as much class?

I like it.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Extremely Red Face Burnsey....

Ain't that the truth.

Life outdoors is not for the weak.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So 2 is twice as much class?

I like it.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Extremely Red Face Burnsey....

Ain't that the truth.

Life outdoors is not for the weak.

and excessive alcohol... RFB

Leupold

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

what year?

490,353

Leupold

Not sure about the rest of you but I wouldn't mind seeing burns' loading setup.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So 2 is twice as much class?

I like it.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Extremely Red Face Burnsey....

Ain't that the truth.

Life outdoors is not for the weak.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

and excessive alcohol... RFB

You are the one posting your alcohol self medication pictures and I am the one posting outdoor pictures.

Might be something for you to ponder as you face the surgery.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Lets try again.

Leupold. Who mounted that scope?

If only in "fairness",Squirm's has a RAGING Teenage Fetish. Hint.

She's a Prick Gawking Law Breaker,with zero remorse and her taste in men,are without peer. Hint...............

Leupold

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So 2 is twice as much class?

I like it.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Extremely Red Face Burnsey....

Ain't that the truth.

Life outdoors is not for the weak.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

and excessive alcohol... RFB

You are the one posting your alcohol self medication pictures and I am the one posting outdoor pictures.

Might be something for you to ponder as you face the surgery.

Leupold.

[Linked Image]

Atta boy RFB.

Leupold

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Lets try again.

Leupold. Who mounted that scope?

If only in "fairness",Squirm's has a RAGING Teenage Fetish. Hint.

She's a Prick Gawking Law Breaker,with zero remorse and her taste in men,are without peer. Hint...............

Disturbing photo at best. Dynamic duo out tonight trying impress. Good luck girls 👧

Yawn 🥱......

Leupold

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky..... didn't get like this from piano playing son.

The Age Spots?

LMFAO

The first two knuckles you clown...and you would be doing yourself a favour by not visiting him.

Added...and at a guess it is probably something along the lines of Goshin ryu.

Leupold

Leupolds

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Leupold

Cum lig ula

Leupold

Leupold. Hunting Optic Forum.

"Chili" is an interesting cat.

Tech advisor on the Netflicks "Extraction" films and had a part on the boat and helicopter scenes.

SGM in the Green side SMU for many years. It's possible he knows how bad Saddam smelled as he was pulled from his rat hole.

Works with Kyle training shooters.

Kyle and Chilli in Wyoming with Chillis first prong horn. Wonder who spotted it ?

Kyle and Chilli doing the Long range thing with the MK 5.

Who's the SEAL in the picture?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Ricky..... didn't get like this from piano playing son.

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The Age Spots?

LMFAO

Originally Posted by JSTUART

The first two knuckles you clown...and you would be doing yourself a favour by not visiting him.

Added...and at a guess it is probably something along the lines of Goshin ryu.

Is that a new model of Glock?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold. Hunting Optic Forum.

"Chili" is an interesting cat.

Tech advisor on the Netflicks "Extraction" films and had a part on the boat and helicopter scenes.

SGM in the Green side SMU for many years. It's possible he knows how bad Saddam smelled as he was pulled from his rat hole.

Works with Kyle training shooters.

Kyle and Chilli in Wyoming with Chillis first prong horn. Wonder who spotted it ?

Kyle and Chilli doing the Long range thing with the MK 5.

Who's the SEAL in the picture?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is that a new model of Glock?

Something like that.

How about a gander at your loading setup. Long range fellas generally have some interesting gear.

Leupold

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Is that a new model of Glock?

Something like that.

How about a gander at your loading setup. Long range fellas generally have some interesting gear.

Multiple Dillon 550s, RCBS Chargemasters, prefer Forester dies but have some Redding. All Micometer seating and bushings for the necks. Everything gets full lenght resized and dies get replaced when they wear enough to not bring base diameter -.002 to the chamber. Dies are set to give -.002 headspace.

I like a lot of great ammo and am not interested in chasing things that won't matter.

Don't point bullets or nose ring. Use Bergers and Sierra TMK in the small frame ARs.

Most of my shooting these days is Semi Auto so I lose cases before there is need for anealing.

Pistols and revolvers and 5.56/.223 ARs get measured charges from Dillon measures.

Bigger cases get weighed charges from the Chargemasters.

Pretty standard stuff.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I like a lot of great ammo and am not interested in chasing things that won't matter.

You are so damn full of yourself.

Originally Posted by bellydeep

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

I like a lot of great ammo and am not interested in chasing things that won't matter.

You are so damn full of yourself.

Mostly cheeseburgers, booze and bullshiitt!

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

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+/- 200 yds.

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+/- 120 yds.

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Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Low IQ hunters do this

You mean Texans that hunt senderos……asking for a friend!

Everyone have a nice safe happy day...

Wakey wakey RFB and NLR.......

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Everyone have a nice safe happy day...

Guessing from the deflection there was more than a little truth in your post……..

Fact based data driven in my world. No BS. As real as its's gets.

24hrs ago....

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Load Development is over and now I'll put a scope on it. Loaded (2) charge weights,(3rds) a piece and pressure came down on upper charge weight,as moly was laid down. 32.0grs VarGay in Alpha Virgins,CCI 450's and a 112 magfed Smooch. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

That's a pretty wicked little rifle.

All components play nicely. My "hunch" is,that it's ALL there. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..........

Which bullet steering device?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fact based data driven in my world. No BS. As real as its's gets.

So you’re saying GW is a Dork for hunting a sendero…?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Someone help me out here...I used pop in this forum about 10 or 15 years ago and I could swear this same pic^^ was being touted back then! lol Please tell me I'm wrong...

Originally Posted by scottryan

Someone help me out here...I used pop in this forum about 10 or 15 years ago and I could swear this same pic^^ was being touted back then! lol Please tell me I'm wrong...

Most of the pictures with Stick actually in them are from last century.

Originally Posted by scottryan

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Someone help me out here...I used pop in this forum about 10 or 15 years ago and I could swear this same pic^^ was being touted back then! lol Please tell me I'm wrong...

Isn't that the theme on here? Its does not seem to be limited to a single member.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Leupold.

Oops. Scooby Doo Van Roadkill.

Originally Posted by scottryan

Someone help me out here...I used pop in this forum about 10 or 15 years ago and I could swear this same pic^^ was being touted back then! lol Please tell me I'm wrong...

LiL Fish with his only coyote. He posts it in threads about coyote rifles, bullets, and optics.

There is still a question if he actually shot it or ran it over with his Shaggin Wagon.

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fact based data driven in my world. No BS. As real as its's gets.

So you’re saying GW is a Dork for hunting a sendero…?

Kind of hope not as I am quite partial to gw's pics, not the carcases...the country and gear.

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Isn't that the theme on here? Its does not seem to be limited to a single member.

There's lots of recent pics posted.

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fact based data driven in my world. No BS. As real as its's gets.

So you’re saying GW is a Dork for hunting a sendero…?

Never. GWB is my good friend.

Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

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+/-500 yds.

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+/- 300 yds.

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+/- 200 yds.

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+/- 120 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Low IQ hunters do this

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by geedubya

+/- 650 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/-500 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 300 yds.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

+/- 200 yds.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ZeCAdih.png[/img]

+/- 120 yds.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/KbxOCHR.png[/img]

Right there!

Six Point cull, Remington 700 Custom KS, 300 H&H, 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds.

ya!

GWB

It’s amazing how they walk right down the Sendero to the feeder

😂😂😂

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

6creed is a liar

Does that surprise anyone?

Squirm's teenage fascinations,does have her often recounting her posters and fixations. Ask her how many times a day,she "thinks" about me. Hint.

Ask her to recount her "wife" or "kids". She's stuck in 7th Grade Prick Looking Fixations and "living" LARGE. Hint.

To be continued. Hint........

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

So you’re saying GW is a Dork for hunting a sendero…?

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Never. GWB is my good friend.

Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Certainly nothing to brag about. An embarrassment at best. Throw feed and come to me. Bravo you dork

What the hell, 6mmcrud seems to have contaminated the thread and appears as a Stick sock puppet!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BubbaG

Isn't that the theme on here? Its does not seem to be limited to a single member.

There's lots of recent pics posted.

Yes, some of them are

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ask her to recount her "wife" or "kids"

Zero irony there. None. Nada. Zip

There's NO slighting Squirm's teenage fascinations/deviance,nor Texan Professional Victims. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

There's NO slighting Squirm's teenage fascinations/deviance,nor Texan Professional Victims. Hint.

To be continued. Hint....................

Here fishy fishy fishy...........Hah!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Ask her to recount her "wife" or "kids"

Zero irony there. None. Nada. Zip

It's really an amazing display of a complete lack of introspection.

It's like he wants to go there so he can claim victim status to try and slide the thread.

Instead lets look at a nice Leupold picture to get back on track.

I wish you guys would ramp up the quality of your poo flingin..... calling each other gay is grade school level stuff.... I expect more... lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Instead lets look at a nice Leupold picture to get back on track.

can a "Sendero Shooter" play?

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Quien Sabe,

GWB

PS: Proberbs 27:5-6 (Classic Amplied Bible)

5 Open rebuke is better than love that is hidden.

6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are lavish and deceitful.

Props to the guys here that show pics of harvested game with their weapon included. Helps to tell the whole story.

Originally Posted by irfubar

I wish you guys would ramp up the quality of your poo flingin..... calling each other gay is grade school level stuff.... I expect more... lol

There was some entertaining poo flingin about 100 pages back or so. I think they have run out of material.

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Instead lets look at a nice Leupold picture to get back on track.

can a "Sendero Shooter" play?

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Quien Sabe,

GWB

PS: Proberbs 27:5-6 (Classic Amplied Bible)

5 Open rebuke is better than love that is hidden.

6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are lavish and deceitful.

There seems to be a bunch of Gold Rings in your photos

🧐

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

There seems to be a bunch of Gold Rings in your photos

🧐

Even a "Beta" male that operates within a narrow band of mediocrity knows to "go for the gold"

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I could go on, but perhaps you get my drift!

Ya!

GWB

Geedubya, I never tire of seeing pics of your rifles. Thanks!

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

GeeDub is a bad ass.

You’re going to need a bunch of couches and Kleenex on this one Doc.

Morning. Nice photos and firearms there GW! Have a fine day.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Fact based data driven in my world. No BS. As real as its's gets.

So you’re saying GW is a Dork for hunting a sendero…?

Kind of hope not as I am quite partial to gw's pics, not the carcases...the country and gear.

As do I. but 6 creed actually did say that just not sure hes man enough to admit it!

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

No doubt, Geedub definitely a Sigma badazz, Ricky is a Beta, John wants to be an Alpha soo bad, but it doesn't work that way....

Oh and almost forgot Stick.... he's just a garden variety Narcissist.

Nice one Geedub! I think stick will need the Kleenex, he couldn't level up to that with his fluorescent Walmart paint jobs and crapalon scopes haha.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

No doubt, Geedub definitely a Sigma badazz, Ricky is a Beta, John wants to be an Alpha soo bad, but it doesn't work that way....

Oh and almost forgot Stick.... he's just a garden variety Narcissist.

Pardon my controlling every aspect of your "Life". Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Hats off to the gentlemen that post cool pic's and help extinguish the dumpster fire....

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

No doubt, Geedub definitely a Sigma badazz, Ricky is a Beta, John wants to be an Alpha soo bad, but it doesn't work that way....

Oh and almost forgot Stick.... he's just a garden variety Narcissist.

Pardon my controlling every aspect of your "Life". Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Your narcissistic projection is pitiful.... I couldn't give 2fucks about you...

Nice collection of guns and game GW! I still truly appreciate a nice wood-stocked rifle... Functional works of art.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

No doubt, Geedub definitely a Sigma badazz, Ricky is a Beta, John wants to be an Alpha soo bad, but it doesn't work that way....

Oh and almost forgot Stick.... he's just a garden variety Narcissist.

Pardon my controlling every aspect of your "Life". Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Your narcissistic projection is pitiful.... I couldn't give 2fucks about you...

Oooopsie!...better change that punctuation. Hint!

To be continued. Hint.........

Nice! Rifles pictures Geedubya!

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

No doubt, Geedub definitely a Sigma badazz, Ricky is a Beta, John wants to be an Alpha soo bad, but it doesn't work that way....

Oh and almost forgot Stick.... he's just a garden variety Narcissist.

Pardon my controlling every aspect of your "Life". Hint.
.

To be continued. Hint................

Your narcissistic projection is pitiful.... I couldn't give 2fucks about you...

That is a good way of putting it. As Little Twig would say - "Hint".

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

GeeDub is a bad ass.

You’re going to need a bunch of couches and Kleenex on this one Doc.

Ha! Agreed!

some

Originally Posted by beretzs

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

GeeDub is a bad ass.

You’re going to need a bunch of couches and Kleenex on this one Doc.

Ha! Agreed!

Has the “Doc” sent you the mini skirt pics?

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by beretzs

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

GeeDub is a bad ass.

You’re going to need a bunch of couches and Kleenex on this one Doc.

Ha! Agreed!

Has the “Doc” sent you the mini skirt pics?

No, but maybe it's a secret code you gotta send to get it in return.. No need to send the code SLM...

But artilleryman are weird. Everyone knows that..

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Morning. Nice photos and firearms there GW! Have a fine day.

Indeed!

There is a big difference between those that post pictures to share and discuss with fellow enthusiasts, and those that post them as a new form of digital appendage measuring metric. GW falls into the first category!

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

1st world problems! HA!

"Stuck" in Hawaii...

I remember the times I wished our damned ship would break down in Hawaii.. Nope, always in some schidthole that you couldn't even get a darned beer. Ruck up Devil!

SLM said post the skirt pics, but he's already seen em

Mouflon sheep, or a cross of some sort part way up Mauna Kea, in real time.
I get pretty darn good Verizon service up here!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Originally Posted by beretzs

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

1st world problems! HA!

"Stuck" in Hawaii...

I remember the times I wished our damned ship would break down in Hawaii.. Nope, always in some schidthole that you couldn't even get a darned beer. Ruck up Devil!

SLM said post the skirt pics, but he's already seen em

I wouldn’t give a damn about being stuck here if I didn’t have this pig meat to deal with and $400 hotel rooms.

Not the end of the world though.😀
It’ll all work out in the end. No point in stressing or getting mad at anyone. Roll with it!

I feel sorry for ya Ted!! 😂

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Morning. Nice photos and firearms there GW! Have a fine day.

Indeed!

There is a big difference between those that post pictures to share and discuss with fellow enthusiasts, and those that post them as a new form of digital appendage measuring metric. GW falls into the first category!

I always like looking at pictures. It's what a shooting/hunting forum is all about.

Only reason to get pizzy about some else's pictures is if it causes you to feel envious, other wise it's good content for the site.

Pictures are not a personal attack but many here feel attacked by pictures that cause them envy.

I enjoy looking at LiL Fish's pictures even though they are faked.

The Golden Ring.

[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

Be sure and get a seat by the door plug.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Mouflon sheep, or a cross of some sort part way up Mauna Kea, in real time.
I get pretty darn good Verizon service up here!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Very cool! I killed two gobblers on that mountain…Hawaii is quite the unique island, has 8 climate zones I believe.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

Ted we were scheduled to fly out to Phoenix 2 days after the window blew outta the 737. We got delayed a day. Cost me $400 to have the ranchers brother pick me up from Tucson and drive me to the ranch to join the group!! On the way back we got delayed as well, had to fly back a day later

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Morning. Nice photos and firearms there GW! Have a fine day.

Indeed!

There is a big difference between those that post pictures to share and discuss with fellow enthusiasts, and those that post them as a new form of digital appendage measuring metric. GW falls into the first category!

GW wrote the book on cool.......senderos and all! Keep up all the good work buddy!

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You’re not even close to being a Beta male GeeDub….you’re a Sigma. An absolute badass who just doesn’t care what others think but posts when you’ve got something good or important to share. You’ve got some incredible pics.

Those who constantly post—-just to post—-without any substance and just want attention and acceptance are the Betas. This forum is absolutely full of them.

Signed,

Dr. TInman
Psychologist

You’re exactly right, he’s even better via phone conversation. Hellava man that GW👊🏻

Originally Posted by Judman

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

Ted we were scheduled to fly out to Phoenix 2 days after the window blew outta the 737. We got delayed a day. Cost me $400 to have the ranchers brother pick me up from Tucson and drive me to the ranch to join the group!! On the way back we got delayed as well, had to fly back a day later

👍
I get delayed like this 2-3 times a year. A guy just has to learn to go with the flow.

Not a huge deal…just a bit of an annoyance.

Hell go kill a black Hawaiian or mouflan while your waiting 😆

Going fishing has crossed my mind😀.

I’m rebooked. Those AA folks are obviously dealing with a lot of irate folks. I kind of feel bad for them…

Originally Posted by JGRaider

GW wrote the book on cool.......senderos and all! Keep up all the good work buddy!

LOL.

What a kiss ass always trying to run with a pack.

Here is the difference between a piece of shit like you and a decent human being in response to the same Campfire Member in the same thread.

Originally Posted by geedubya

More Good Stuff RC.

Hope to spend a bit of time trapping and calling coyotes this spring (in addition to perforating hoglets)

Best,

GWB

Originally Posted by JGRaider

LGBTQ+ with scarecrow legs........what a pearl you are.

Nothing about Hunting Optic just personal attacks because you're an envious piece of shit.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Morning. Nice photos and firearms there GW! Have a fine day.

Indeed!

There is a big difference between those that post pictures to share and discuss with fellow enthusiasts, and those that post them as a new form of digital appendage measuring metric. GW falls into the first category!

I always like looking at pictures. It's what a shooting/hunting forum is all about.

Only reason to get pizzy about some else's pictures is if it causes you to feel envious, other wise it's good content for the site.

Pictures are not a personal attack but many here feel attacked by pictures that cause them envy.

I enjoy looking at LiL Fish's pictures even though they are faked.

It's obvious which category you are in, John.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Going fishing has crossed my mind😀.

I’m rebooked. Those AA folks are obviously dealing with a lot of irate folks. I kind of feel bad for them…

Glad you are slowly working back home buddy. Sounds like a decent adventure.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Going fishing has crossed my mind😀.

I’m rebooked. Those AA folks are obviously dealing with a lot of irate folks. I kind of feel bad for them…

Wish you were on Kauai I’d have ya squared away🤦‍♂️👍

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

Indeed!
There is a big difference between those that post pictures to share and discuss with fellow enthusiasts, and those that post them as a new form of digital appendage measuring metric. GW falls into the first category!

I always like looking at pictures. It's what a shooting/hunting forum is all about.

Only reason to get pizzy about some else's pictures is if it causes you to feel envious, other wise it's good content for the site.

Pictures are not a personal attack but many here feel attacked by pictures that cause them envy.

I enjoy looking at LiL Fish's pictures even though they are faked.

It's obvious which category you are in, John.

The non Envious category.

You have never seen me whine about others posting cool pictures but I might point out a faked scope test or 2.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

The grass skirt makes sense now.

Don’t worry Beretz, after the first couple, the shock kind of wears off.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Nothing about Hunting Optic just personal attacks because you're an envious piece of shit.

Seriously...you are going with that.

Really?

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

You all like the mini skirt pics and you know it.

I can post them here, if you’d like. I have time. I am on hold with Alaska Airlines trying to get rebooked (for the 2nd time) due to flight cancellations.

To make it more fun, I have a box of pig meat that I have to keep frozen somehow. Their cancelled flights have already costed me about a grand due to extended rental car fees, another hotel ($395 a night in Kona😞) and everything else, not to mention not getting back home until 2 days after I planned, etc.

Good times!

The grass skirt makes sense now.

Don’t worry Beretz, after the first couple, the shock kind of wears off.

Rgr, I trust in your word SLM.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Mouflon sheep, or a cross of some sort part way up Mauna Kea, in real time.
I get pretty darn good Verizon service up here!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That’s pretty cool. MagView?

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Mouflon sheep, or a cross of some sort part way up Mauna Kea, in real time.
I get pretty darn good Verizon service up here!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That’s pretty cool. MagView?

Yes, I am playing with it.
The MagView, that is.

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Mouflon sheep, or a cross of some sort part way up Mauna Kea, in real time.
I get pretty darn good Verizon service up here!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That’s pretty cool. MagView?

Yes, I am playing with it.
The MagView, that is.

Only way you can see it??

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Yes, I am playing with it.
The MagView, that is.

It becomes an addiction.

The MagView does too.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Im surprised the pack didn’t call out 6creed for his disingenuous remarks about gw’s hunting methods when he thought those were ricks pics…

Friends don’t trash friends hunting methods!

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Nothing about Hunting Optic just personal attacks because you're an envious piece of shit.

Seriously...you are going with that.

Really?

Yeah, lots to be envious of huh JSTUART? We've got a guy who's 100lbs overweight, alcoholic, no family, and a company bankrupting afficionado. He's a real winner alright.

Brother Burns,

Did you call Brother 6mm yet?

Even when your friends with 6creed your not really friends…..

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Even when your friends with 6creed your not really friends…..

It's pretty sick to goad a guy on going through such a horrible situation like 6mmCM is enduring.

He's self medicating and depressed but the pieces of shit that throw gas on that fire and giggle from the sidelines are the lowest scum here on the Campfire.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Brother Burns,

Did you call Brother 6mm yet?

Seriously? back to that schit again? It was such a nice day without all the douchebaggery.

Appreciate the kind words guys.

I've been blessed and have had a good run.

Plan to keep on as long as I can.

With that in mind I believe in giving credit where credit is due

So this will be the condensed version (as best as I recall).

When I first started posting on 24hrcampfire, Flat Land Texicans that hunted over feeders from stands were pretty much held in low esteem and had limited credibility.

You've heard the saying, "Pix or it didn't happen. Well I had some pix, but very limited credibility.

As luck would have it three guys in particular came to my rescue.

ShortActionSmoker sold me an ARAIG 2013 Group Buy knife and along with it he included a "Western Hunter Starter Pack"

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A McSwirley crayon, a 6mm., 87 Gr. Hornady A-Max, and blue tape for the end of a rifle barrel, plus instructions for each items particular use.

Luckily I stumbeled on the "243" and "243 Ackley" Threads.

You've heard the saying, "Pix or it didn't happen. Well I had some pix, but very limited credibility. So I started posting.

Soon Ricky Bob Menefee contacted me, said he would like to make me a knife. I was already collecting, but that pushed me over the edge.

After I acquired a couple of his knives, I mentioned to him that short, fat, bald Texans that hunted over bait got very little respect when they went out west.

He said he'd make me a knife that "throbbed" for attention.

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Wasn't long befoe a Blue Vein Walrus Dick Boner showed up at my door.

Tell you how cool it was, huntsman22 now owns it, and I didn't even have to pay him to take it.

Yowsir!

And next, of all things a guy that took great photos who really made a Texas boy feel at home befriended me. He went by several Sobriquet's, Boxer/Busheler/Big Stick.

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Perhaps, the holding of the ARAIG group buy Ingram captive here in Texas caught his attention

If it were not for B's gentle coaxing and encouragement, I'd probably not posted half of the pix that I did early on.

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In fact, B was the inspiration for the Haybale and Crockett Chronicles, Tales from the Petting Zoo,

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Golf Carts and Gates Edition!

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The rest is history (as in I don't remember)

Anywho, posting here has and continues to be a very enjoyable source of entertainment.

Thanx Guys!

Best,

GWB

And this is why Rick's Island of Misfit Toys is so much fun.

Nicely done GWB.

Sure there are the Toxic Dead End Posters but they are easy to stomp.

Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Originally Posted by SLM

Originally Posted by T_Inman

Mouflon sheep, or a cross of some sort part way up Mauna Kea, in real time.
I get pretty darn good Verizon service up here!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That’s pretty cool. MagView?

Yes, I am playing with it.
The MagView, that is.

Only way you can see it??

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And this is why Rick's Island of Misfit Toys is so much fun.

Nicely done GWB.

Sure there are the Toxic Dead End Posters but they are easy to stomp.

You may be the most oblivious character I have ever conversed with.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Even when your friends with 6creed your not really friends…..

It's pretty sick to goad a guy on going through such a horrible situation like 6mmCM is enduring.

He's self medicating and depressed but the pieces of shit that throw gas on that fire and giggle from the sidelines are the lowest scum here on the Campfire.

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

and those GIFs... they bring nothing to the fire... we should lobby to have him banned...

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And this is why Rick's Island of Misfit Toys is so much fun.

Nicely done GWB.

Sure there are the Toxic Dead End Posters but they are easy to stomp.

You may be the most oblivious character I have ever conversed with.

We might be having a moment here. Don't wreck it with big words.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

Big time

That dude is clearly a sociopath:

“However, people who are sociopaths use excessive charm to manipulate others into believing they are good guys. They use their slippery charm to weave a false sense of safety and trap their victims into trusting them. While anyone can fall for a sociopath's surface-level charm, they tend to go for folks who are aching for attention, and thus more likely to fall for it”

Be careful. They lurk here for sure

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

Big time

That dude is clearly a sociopath:

“However, people who are sociopaths use excessive charm to manipulate others into believing they are good guys. They use their slippery charm to weave a false sense of safety and trap their victims into trusting them. While anyone can fall for a sociopath's surface-level charm, they tend to go for folks who are aching for attention, and thus more likely to fall for it”

Be careful. They lurk here for sure

Hi Ricky... how are you?

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Even when your friends with 6creed your not really friends…..

It's pretty sick to goad a guy on going through such a horrible situation like 6mmCM is enduring.

He's self medicating and depressed but the pieces of shit that throw gas on that fire and giggle from the sidelines are the lowest scum here on the Campfire.

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

and those GIFs... they bring nothing to the fire... we should lobby to have him banned...

Brother irfubar... you good?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And this is why Rick's Island of Misfit Toys is so much fun.

Nicely done GWB.

Sure there are the Toxic Dead End Posters but they are easy to stomp.

You may be the most oblivious character I have ever conversed with.

We might be having a moment here. Don't wreck it with big words.

Burnsy... what up?

Appreciate you all.... cheers. been a long [bleep] day men

GWB and a nice talk today. He is solid Gold...

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

Big time

That dude is clearly a sociopath:

“However, people who are sociopaths use excessive charm to manipulate others into believing they are good guys. They use their slippery charm to weave a false sense of safety and trap their victims into trusting them. While anyone can fall for a sociopath's surface-level charm, they tend to go for folks who are aching for attention, and thus more likely to fall for it”

Be careful. They lurk here for sure

Sounds scary.....

I do have a lot of experience with narcissist.... they can be very destructive, until you get their number, then they are pretty easy to maneuver around.

As for evil lurking here, that is no joke.... I have been doxed and stalked and threatened, hell, happened again today.

Buzz went so far as to cyber sleuth who I am , what business I own, where I do business, why do you think he would spend the time to do that?

Duck 911 did the same thing a couple years ago... yet you and John give me crap for not using my name.

Well PM Judman, he will tell you, hell no need to even do that he doxed me earlier.

Thing is there is no upside to using your real name, only downside and the sicko's will use it against you.

Now if you are marketing products I could see using your real name. I know Doug at Camera land uses his with great success.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... what up?

LOL.

You tell us as I am always good.

You're the variable.

He's a good dude. Someday I'ma gonna go down and be his gate opener guy when he gives me a golfcart ride.
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No words needed brother burns

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Burnsy... what up?

LOL.

You tell us as I am always good.

You're the variable.

I am the stimulator of thought...

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Even when your friends with 6creed your not really friends…..

It's pretty sick to goad a guy on going through such a horrible situation like 6mmCM is enduring.

He's self medicating and depressed but the pieces of shit that throw gas on that fire and giggle from the sidelines are the lowest scum here on the Campfire.

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

and those GIFs... they bring nothing to the fire... we should lobby to have him banned...

Brother irfubar... you good?

Brother 6 cr , I am fine, that was an attempt to be funny, I suspect brother Alwaysoutdoors gets under some peoples skin... the rest of us brothers are cool...

Originally Posted by huntsman22

He's a good dude. Someday I'ma gonna go down and be his gate opener guy when he gives me a golfcart ride.
[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]

Gate is always open for you huntsman. Bring the Frog.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan

Even when your friends with 6creed your not really friends…..

It's pretty sick to goad a guy on going through such a horrible situation like 6mmCM is enduring.

He's self medicating and depressed but the pieces of shit that throw gas on that fire and giggle from the sidelines are the lowest scum here on the Campfire.

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

and those GIFs... they bring nothing to the fire... we should lobby to have him banned...

Brother irfubar... you good?

Brother 6 cr , I am fine, that was an attempt to be funny, I suspect brother Alwaysoutdoors gets under some peoples skin... the rest of us brothers are cool...

Brother ifurbar... it is all good.............

It is all about Ballz. Big or small, it don't matter. We all good.

Da Brotherhood.

Burnsy / Ricky... Salute!

Originally Posted by huntsman22

He's a good dude. Someday I'ma gonna go down and be his gate opener guy when he gives me a golfcart ride.
[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]

Now everyone, including me, wants that fricken knife.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Sammo.... word brother. Doggos rule!

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by huntsman22

He's a good dude. Someday I'ma gonna go down and be his gate opener guy when he gives me a golfcart ride.
[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]

Now everyone, including me, wants that fricken knife.

Fuuccker is pretty nice

From a po boy

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by huntsman22

He's a good dude. Someday I'ma gonna go down and be his gate opener guy when he gives me a golfcart ride.
[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]

Now everyone, including me, wants that fricken knife.

Is that a big red "boner" ?

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

Big time

That dude is clearly a sociopath:

“However, people who are sociopaths use excessive charm to manipulate others into believing they are good guys. They use their slippery charm to weave a false sense of safety and trap their victims into trusting them. While anyone can fall for a sociopath's surface-level charm, they tend to go for folks who are aching for attention, and thus more likely to fall for it”

Be careful. They lurk here for sure

Sounds scary.....

I do have a lot of experience with narcissist.... they can be very destructive, until you get their number, then they are pretty easy to maneuver around.

As for evil lurking here, that is no joke.... I have been doxed and stalked and threatened, hell, happened again today.

Buzz went so far as to cyber sleuth who I am , what business I own, where I do business, why do you think he would spend the time to do that?

Duck 911 did the same thing a couple years ago... yet you and John give me crap for not using my name.

Well PM Judman, he will tell you, hell no need to even do that he doxed me earlier.

Thing is there is no upside to using your real name, only downside and the sicko's will use it against you.

Now if you are marketing products I could see using your real name. I know Doug at Camera land uses his with great success.

Rest assured. That guy can’t try to pretend we don’t know what he is and what he is doing.

I’ll be shining the light on him when I see it from now on

😉

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by irfubar

Yeah, especially that guy that calls everyone "brother" like we are some religious cult or something....

Big time

That dude is clearly a sociopath:

“However, people who are sociopaths use excessive charm to manipulate others into believing they are good guys. They use their slippery charm to weave a false sense of safety and trap their victims into trusting them. While anyone can fall for a sociopath's surface-level charm, they tend to go for folks who are aching for attention, and thus more likely to fall for it”

Be careful. They lurk here for sure

Sounds scary.....

I do have a lot of experience with narcissist.... they can be very destructive, until you get their number, then they are pretty easy to maneuver around.

As for evil lurking here, that is no joke.... I have been doxed and stalked and threatened, hell, happened again today.

Buzz went so far as to cyber sleuth who I am , what business I own, where I do business, why do you think he would spend the time to do that?

Duck 911 did the same thing a couple years ago... yet you and John give me crap for not using my name.

Well PM Judman, he will tell you, hell no need to even do that he doxed me earlier.

Thing is there is no upside to using your real name, only downside and the sicko's will use it against you.

Now if you are marketing products I could see using your real name. I know Doug at Camera land uses his with great success.

Rest assured. That guy can’t try to pretend we don’t know what he is and what he is doing.

I’ll be shining the light on him when I see it from now on

😉

Hi Ricky... you good tonight?

not much to offer from a PWB

Doggo P

We have a dog 320 miles away in Billings, MT that just had surgery on a faulty hip.

My wife is in charge of that deal!

Originally Posted by SamOlson

We have a dog 320 miles away in Billings, MT that just had surgery on a faulty hip.

My wife is in charge of that deal!

Sorry to hear Sammo.. can I help in anyway?

Explain to my wife that's it's going to be okay.....lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by huntsman22

He's a good dude. Someday I'ma gonna go down and be his gate opener guy when he gives me a golfcart ride.
[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]

Now everyone, including me, wants that fricken knife.

FWIW

The scales are Westinghouse Micarta, hence the blue line or vein.

I do not know if it can be found any more.

The shield, according to Ricky Bob is from petrified Walrus Pecker.

Hence the moniker "The BVWD Boner!

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Explain to my wife that's it's going to be okay.....lol

Send number. I am very charismatic with women... so I have been told...

lol

Cheers!

Cheers Brother Sam...

Ham Hands...

Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Wanna sell the Nazi blade stick?

Back at ya B'

B4

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Shave and a hair-cut....... 6 Bits!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

ya!

GWB

Dem blades iz beautiful GWB..

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dem blades iz beautiful GWB..

Dale Howe (Howe Mountain Knives) does some good stuff!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Two of his Tantos,

ya!

GWB

Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Winning...

Any fans of the 224 V? Have 1 bolt upper and 2 semi. 20 and 24.

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Dem blades iz beautiful GWB..

Dale Howe (Howe Mountain Knives) does some good stuff!

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Two of his Tantos,

ya!

GWB

10/10 as always....

Have nearly a dozen,if counting Krunchentickers and Stick Shifts. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

winning.... hard to beat high rpm 22s

22 CM is impressive 5 Stars. Connects all dots....

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

It's a good thing you don't have any critters to dress or meat to cut with that assortment.

Wow.

Lunch with the Columbians....

Most are 1-7",though a coupla Krunchentickers are 1-6.5" and I've a coupla '8's. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

Colombians...

Let me splain you something.....

Me shut the fuucck up moththerfucckerrs...

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Most are 1-7",though a coupla Krunchentickers are 1-6.5" and I've a coupla '8's. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

carbon iz the cats asss...

Never had a 224 Speedmire over 30",though I only own (7) and none slower than 8". Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

30 is mighty long. Past the point of diminishing return...

Life's full of choices brother stick

y

Bacon or Burnsy....

I like birds...

How come a fhuqking DISMAL Burris TTT,trump's a Reupold flagship attempt at same? Hint.

Then returned to prior Splendor. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Gene Ingram is a stand up guy In my book.

I do not believe I am betraying a confidence by telling this story Hopefully he would not mind.

I've had the good fortune to have owned quite a few of his knives. One of my favorite things about doing business with Gene is that I could call him and tell him of an idea for a project I had in mind and ask if he would be interested.

I have sold most of his standards, but have most all of the one-offs he did for me.

A few years ago I got a text from him. It was about a book called 'The Skinning Knife"

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I immediately looked it up and purchased it on Amazon IIRC.

Once it came in, I perused it immediately.

I got the notion that It would be fun to ask him if he would fashion a knife that was a copy of one of the skinning knives featured in this tome.

I texted him with a picture of the knife that I wanted to see if he would recreate

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I asked for etched A2 steel, the scales and dimensions were up to him.

His reply was that he would be happy to do the knife. I was taken aback when he told me (this is my rememberance) that when he first started making knives that knife was one of the first he'd made.

Talk about a serendipity!

The knife is pictured on page 131....

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And the knife he sent me......

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GWB #131, A2 Steel. The scales are from the rib-bone of a Stellar's Sea Cow (Which has been extiinct for several hundred years)

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

One my kids will have to dispose of!

ya!

GWB

Originally Posted by Big Stick

How come a fhuqking DISMAL Burris TTT,trump's a Reupold flagship attempt at same? Hint.

Then returned to prior Splendor. Hint.

To be continued. Hint..............

Fact based data driven..

Numbers don't lie... Data not opinion.

Originally Posted by geedubya

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Gene Ingram is a stand up guy In my book.

I do not believe I am betraying a confidence by telling this story Hopefully he would not mind.

I've had the good fortune to have owned quite a few of his knives. One of my favorite things about doing business with Gene is that I could call him and tell him of an idea for a project I had in mind and ask if he would be interested.

I have sold most of his standards, but have most all of the one-offs he did for me.

A few years ago I got a text from him. It was about a book called 'The Skinning Knife"

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I immediately looked it up and purchased it on Amazon IIRC.

Once it came in, I perused it immediately.

I got the notion that It would be fun to ask him if he would fashion a knife that was a copy of one of the skinning knives featured in this tome.

I texted him with a picture of the knife that I wanted to see if he would recreate

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I asked for etched A2 steel, the scales and dimensions were up to him.

His reply was that he would be happy to do the knife. I was taken aback when he told me (this is my rememberance) that when he first started making knives that knife was one of the first he'd made.

Talk about a serendipity!

The knife is pictured on page 131....

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

And the knife he sent me......

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

GWB #131, A2 Steel. The scales are from the rib-bone of a Stellar's Sea Cow (Which has been extiinct for several hundred years)

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

One my kids will have to dispose of!

ya!

GWB

Thanks for sharing GWB!

Dolly....

I LOVE Gene,like fhuqking FEW others,but even he told me "I'm done with your Black Micarta!". I simply laughed and let him have his way,less regret. Hint.

Have had 100's of folks TRY to buy this. Hint.

Wore it earlier today,landing supper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I LOVE Gene,like fhuqking FEW others,but even he told me "I'm done with your Black Micarta!". I simply laughed and let him have his way,less regret. Hint.

Have had 100's of folks TRY to buy this. Hint.

Wore it earlier today,landing supper. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Hold it close to the soul...somethings are priceless brother stick. enjoy

Back at ya' B!

Gene Ingram Nessmuk set.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Etched A2 Steel

Desert Ironwood Scales

yup!

GWB

Closer than that and for LIFE. Hint.

Only the knife remains,through the decades of abuse. Scopes,hopes,bases,places,rings and things all PUKE. Hint.

To be continued. Hint...............

She be a keeper...

Gene has it down...

To his credit,Steelhead spoke of an Old Boy who knew and made blades. I'm dumb enough to listen and spoke to the gentle man in question. I confess to rather liking him and his work,so asked to be his feedback,after receiving my first (#4 DP in D2). He was/is wayyyyyyyyyyy ahead of the game,regarding stock selection,heat treat and use. So while I got lotsa "new stuff",Gene seemingly knew WELL in advance WTF. His humor and humility are fhuqking on par and such things don't hurt business. That initial blade cleaned (5) Moose in a single Season and added to his deserved wait list. Hint.

My initial cringe at 440C,is stifled by decades of daily use and the simplistic nudge,that same is draped in Kydex and on my neck. ALL of which was new to me. Hint.

I could dangle 100's of Field/Use pics. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Originally Posted by Big Stick

To his credit,Steelhead spoke of an Old Boy who knew and made blades. I'm dumb enough to listen and spoke to the gentle man in question. I confess to rather liking him and his work,so asked to be his feedback,after receiving my first (#4 DP in D2). He was/is wayyyyyyyyyyy ahead of the game,regarding stock selection,heat treat and use. So while I got lotsa "new stuff",Gene seemingly knew WELL in advance WTF. His humor and humility are fhuqking on par and such things don't hurt business. That initial blade cleaned (5) Moose in a single Season and added to his deserved wait list. Hint.

My initial cringe at 440C,is stifled by decades of daily use and the simplistic nudge,that same is draped in Kydex and on my neck. ALL of which was new to me. Hint.

I could dangle 100's of Field/Use pics. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Outfuuckking standing. Gene for the win!

I like birds. Hint.

Gene KNOWS I love him,simply because I do. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

Sleep well all....

Reconvene tomorrow

Originally Posted by Big Stick

I like birds. Hint.

Gene KNOWS I love him,simply because I do. Hint.

To be continued. Hint................

10/10. Solid

Nope...your knives are too flash for me to keep up.

Just came up for sale nearby. Something to ponder on...

Tactical Operations Delta 51. Built on a Surgeon Arms receiver, Trigger Tech Diamond trigger , detachable box magazine, 308 caliber, 18? barrel with TacOps muzzle device, Nightforce NX8 4-32x50 scope, Bobro quick release scope mount. Only has about 30 rounds through it.
https://snipercentral.com/tactical-operations-tango-51-full-review/

I also saw that come up for sale. You don’t see them for sale too often.

stuff

Odd choice in scope mounting.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Just came up for sale nearby. Something to ponder on...

Tactical Operations Delta 51. Built on a Surgeon Arms receiver, Trigger Tech Diamond trigger , detachable box magazine, 308 caliber, 18? barrel with TacOps muzzle device, Nightforce NX8 4-32x50 scope, Bobro quick release scope mount. Only has about 30 rounds through it.
https://snipercentral.com/tactical-operations-tango-51-full-review/

1-12 twisted....

OMG......

dave

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Hint.

To be continued. Hint.................

Maybe you just have the empty boxes........ Don't we require a witness signature on any target you post? And a dead fish?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Odd choice in scope mounting.

Sure is

Originally Posted by robertham1

I also saw that come up for sale. You don’t see them for sale too often.

Had one before. They shoot as advertised

Still a short barrel low BC 308....

While The TacOps Ruse(s) are real,1-12" will stabilize 208's at LowTide in Winter. Hint.

To be continued. Hint.............

Afternoon.

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

Afternoon.

Aka "bedtime"....

Evening all, Dory says hello!

Yo Burnsy / Ricky squeeze my lemons...

Originally Posted by Big Stick

Only the knife remains,through the decades of abuse. Scopes,hopes,bases,places,rings and things all PUKE. Hint.

Nice! Mr. Stick, you're a philosopher, too? Paul in 1 Corinthians 13 got nothin' on you. Preach it, brother.

Got dammit! resiting putting the lemon song here, just listened to a couple minutes, still killer.

OTOH, would someone point to the add for the green 308. I looked on Ca. Armslist & GB & didn';t see it. No chance of me beating somebody to it, I'd just like to see more of it & the price so I can realize it's not for a rednecks budget.

Friends don’t let friends shoot .308 Winchesters

Waiting on pictures via text. Sent him message

Will share

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Friends don’t let friends shoot .308 Winchesters

Very true 👍🏻

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Friends don’t let friends shoot .308 Winchesters

Very true 👍🏻

My friends that shoot Palma are sad

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Friends don’t let friends shoot .308 Winchesters

I agree, .30-06 is way more accurate.

ETA: that group was shot with a Vari-XIIc 3-9x that spent the first part of its life on my Colt Sauer .375H&ag
Adjustment ring froze up, sent it back and now it rides an early Kimber 82 classic and the .30-06 wears a Nightfarce.

308 is a jack of all trades. Solid but not stellar. I've had many.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

308 is a jack of all trades. Solid but not stellar. I've had many.

They suck, and I can’t imagine ever being without at least one on hand. If you have a set of dies and some good brass, it really doesn’t make sense not to own a few

Been eyeballing one of these. 308 or 6 Creed. Probably both...

https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-ultramatch-mod2-remington-700-barrel/

I do like that TacOps

Brothers Nair Legs and Burns,

Did you grow the CAJONES today to call Brother 6mm? I mean you act like you’ll melt into your shoes . Grow the fugk up. I’ll call, Brother 6mm

Current view on TV

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1897844

.308’s are so awesome at long range, they have a separate class in matches because they are so handicapped

That is very true. Hence why I have dubbed them the grenade launcher....

Nair legs is the 308 of shooters

They work fine.
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That is purdy

Originally Posted by SLM

They work fine.
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Badass animal, badass country. Love the pic. Congrats.

Don't use the .308 Win much anymore but I have seen that a Gold Ring on the optic sure helps the results.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Don't use the .308 Win much anymore but I have seen that a Gold Ring on the optic sure helps the results.

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Fantastic Bull!

Indeed

Originally Posted by rcamuglia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Don't use the .308 Win much anymore but I have seen that a Gold Ring on the optic sure helps the results.

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Fantastic Bull!

It's actually quite entertaining the length you will go to suck John's díck.

Brother Pop,

What if Brother Rick has nothing better to be happy about?

.308 Win and a Golden Ring brings the smiles to some and the Green Sour Envy to others.

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Good point, but dang it's gross.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

.308 Win and a Golden Ring brings the smiles to some and the Green Sour Envy to others.

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John you and that gold ring are a perfect fit.

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Good point, but dang it's gross.

Are you sure, Brother?

Do the smiles of others make you happy or do you taste the bile of ENVY?

Gold Ring.

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It is not the pictures of the people with their game...it is your constant use of same to push your crap.

But you know this...and so does your bum buddy who hangs on to your every word hoping for some crumbs from your table.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Good point, but dang it's gross.

Are you sure, Brother?

Why is William Shatner on 24 again

Originally Posted by tedthorn

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Good point, but dang it's gross.

Are you sure, Brother?

Why is William Shatner on 24 again

You are just jealous, brother .

Morning all, 54 and wet here.

As far north and west as you can get in Pennsylvania.
Lake effect snow.
We are going to get it.....

dave

Originally Posted by dave7mm

As far north and west as you can get in Pennsylvania.
Lake effect snow.
We are going to get it.....

dave

I grew up by the PA / NY State line close to Olean NY / Bradford Pa.

Don't miss it.....

Sister lives in Jamestown

Good ole Chautauqua Lake.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Morning all, 54 and wet here.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Morning all, 54 and wet here.

Tad brisk up your way Goalie.... Stay warm brother.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Tad brisk up your way Goalie.... Stay warm brother.

I will, there's infrared heat in the shop 😎

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Tad brisk up your way Goalie.... Stay warm brother.

I will, there's infrared heat in the shop 😎

Excellent!

It's good, because now my golf league team wants fire pokers 😁

Win / Win..... cash is king. Kids are in Laquinta golfing this weekend.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Win / Win..... cash is king. Kids are in Laquinta golfing this weekend.

That would beat -8*

Sure does.

Couple of dawgs enjoying each others company. Byan and Bogey

Dude
That looks like a pitbull....
.

View from Colorado house of back deck. 15th hole

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Dude
That looks like a pitbull....
.

He just a happy dawg

Zoey.
Sweetheart.....

dave

.

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Zoey.
Sweetheart.....

dave

.

Very nice. Dawgs are the best.

Winter view

Fooq snow

A different view every night

I have to say, you seem to have life by the balls.

I started from absolutely nothing. Less than nothing. Learn to get good at something and never quit. Provided for wife and kid 10 fold and other family members. Lots of stress and a bad spine now. April 16th will be 40 years, told wife I will cross the finish line handicapped. But still standing.....
High school education, started off at minimum wage, self made millionaire.. Was a fuuckking hard road. Family will have no worries. Pay yourself first, invest wisely. Follow the 3 key words of life.... Decision, Temptation, Moderation.

Believers are Achievers!

Morning guys. Nice here the cold has moved east at least for a while. Enjoy.

Morning Hazen. Stay warm

Oooorah

https://snipercentral.com/u-s-army-sniper-school-ft-benning/

Too cold to test the Ares outside, so it's catch-up on orders time.

I grew up in Meadville, PA, went to college in Edinboro. Don't miss winter but I sure miss summer compared to here.

Hot and humid in TN?

6mm, you have no desire to return to PA? I thought that section of the state was one of the nicest I have seen. Was up there shortly after my first wife passed away.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I started from absolutely nothing. Less than nothing. Learn to get good at something and never quit. Provided for wife and kid 10 fold and other family members. Lots of stress and a bad spine now. April 16th will be 40 years, told wife I will cross the finish line handicapped. But still standing.....
High school education, started off at minimum wage, self made millionaire.. Was a fuuckking hard road. Family will have no worries. Pay yourself first, invest wisely. Follow the 3 key words of life.... Decision, Temptation, Moderation.

Believers are Achievers!

brother, that is something to be proud of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand the struggle...

Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter

6mm, you have no desire to return to PA? I thought that section of the state was one of the nicest I have seen. Was up there shortly after my first wife passed away.

Never.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

I started from absolutely nothing. Less than nothing. Learn to get good at something and never quit. Provided for wife and kid 10 fold and other family members. Lots of stress and a bad spine now. April 16th will be 40 years, told wife I will cross the finish line handicapped. But still standing.....
High school education, started off at minimum wage, self made millionaire.. Was a fuuckking hard road. Family will have no worries. Pay yourself first, invest wisely. Follow the 3 key words of life.... Decision, Temptation, Moderation.

Believers are Achievers!

brother, that is something to be proud of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand the struggle...

Thank you brother irfubar. Greatly appreciated!

Number of years ago I worked at GE Transportation. The locomotive plant in Erie. Now owned by Westinghouse.
At that time . GE employees from different divisions would get laid off. They had a preferential hiring program. Where you could get hired at another GE division and keep your pension going.
Some guy that worked at a GE appliance division in Southern Illinois got a job at the Erie plant. Got to know him. One day he said to me.
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but Erie sucks.
I'm not sure what's so special about Southern Illinois.
And this was in September.
I told him...........
Wait until January or February.
You'll learn a new definition of sucking...

dave

In the end, the top leaders of a company either make it great or [bleep] it up. Everyone else just tries to survive.

Then there are a few who create their own destiny. Balls.... Big balls are good.

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by tedthorn

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Originally Posted by Jimmypop

Good point, but dang it's gross.

Are you sure, Brother?

Why is William Shatner on 24 again

You are just jealous, brother .

Of William Shatner?

Nope.....he's, a, really, cool,,,,,,,guy

Originally Posted by gunzo

Got dammit! resiting putting the lemon song here, just listened to a couple minutes, still killer.

OTOH, would someone point to the add for the green 308. I looked on Ca. Armslist & GB & didn';t see it. No chance of me beating somebody to it, I'd just like to see more of it & the price so I can realize it's not for a rednecks budget.

He does 6.5 as well, and a few 6mms and 260s. 308 is just his bread and butter because of law enforcement and special military contracts.

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

In the end, the top leaders of a company either make it great or [bleep] it up. Everyone else just tries to survive.

Then there are a few who create their own destiny. Balls.... Big balls are good.

Old man used to say “you can always tell who the boss is, he’s the guy walking fast and looking worried”
Laffin’

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by gunzo

Got dammit! resiting putting the lemon song here, just listened to a couple minutes, still killer.

OTOH, would someone point to the add for the green 308. I looked on Ca. Armslist & GB & didn';t see it. No chance of me beating somebody to it, I'd just like to see more of it & the price so I can realize it's not for a rednecks budget.

He does 6.5 as well, and a few 6mms and 260s. 308 is just his bread and butter because of law enforcement and special military contracts.

Sexy, well optioned rifles , but see about 2-3 grand of pork in the final price. The pieces parts ain't hard to look up or add up along with high end gun smith fees, but this one over the top.

But,,,, I do appreciate Six offering the pic & a follow up for folks to dream on.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

In the end, the top leaders of a company either make it great or [bleep] it up. Everyone else just tries to survive.

Then there are a few who create their own destiny. Balls.... Big balls are good.

Old man used to say “you can always tell who the boss is, he’s the guy walking fast and looking worried”
Laffin’

I love dreams about work and the NEVER ending potential chit that is gonna go wrong!

It's always about cows getting out of where they should be. Or grasshoppers or really bad weather.

Originally Posted by gunzo

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by gunzo

Got dammit! resiting putting the lemon song here, just listened to a couple minutes, still killer.

OTOH, would someone point to the add for the green 308. I looked on Ca. Armslist & GB & didn';t see it. No chance of me beating somebody to it, I'd just like to see more of it & the price so I can realize it's not for a rednecks budget.

He does 6.5 as well, and a few 6mms and 260s. 308 is just his bread and butter because of law enforcement and special military contracts.

Sexy, well optioned rifles , but see about 2-3 grand of pork in the final price. The pieces parts ain't hard to look up or add up along with high end gun smith fees, but this one over the top.

But,,,, I do appreciate Six offering the pic & a follow up for folks to dream on.

He isn't just some other smith, and nobody else can guarantee 1/4 moa or better with factory ammo.
He has to re-work the best of parts to meet his own specs.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

He isn't just some other smith, and nobody else can guarantee 1/4 moa or better with factory ammo.

Fucqking hilarious!

Dude.

This is a great thread.

Originally Posted by SamOlson

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

In the end, the top leaders of a company either make it great or [bleep] it up. Everyone else just tries to survive.

Then there are a few who create their own destiny. Balls.... Big balls are good.

Old man used to say “you can always tell who the boss is, he’s the guy walking fast and looking worried”
Laffin’

I love dreams about work and the NEVER ending potential chit that is gonna go wrong!

It's always about cows getting out of where they should be. Or grasshoppers or really bad weather.

When your lively hood is based on Mother Nature and market conditions it’s going to be stressful. But at least there’s no office drama and plenty of fresh air.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by gunzo

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by gunzo

Got dammit! resiting putting the lemon song here, just listened to a couple minutes, still killer.

OTOH, would someone point to the add for the green 308. I looked on Ca. Armslist & GB & didn';t see it. No chance of me beating somebody to it, I'd just like to see more of it & the price so I can realize it's not for a rednecks budget.

He does 6.5 as well, and a few 6mms and 260s. 308 is just his bread and butter because of law enforcement and special military contracts.

Sexy, well optioned rifles , but see about 2-3 grand of pork in the final price. The pieces parts ain't hard to look up or add up along with high end gun smith fees, but this one over the top.

But,,,, I do appreciate Six offering the pic & a follow up for folks to dream on.

He isn't just some other smith, and nobody else can guarantee 1/4 moa or better with factory ammo.
He has to re-work the best of parts to meet his own specs.

Sounds magical.

Friend had a Tango 51. I was unimpressed. The throat was cut too short and bullets would stick in the chamber if you tried to extract a live round of the recommended factory ammo. The gunsmith, Mike, said that "Federal changed the dimensions of the bullet". The bullet in question was the 168 gr Sierra MatchKing. I had plenty of old 168s, new 168s, old Federal Gold Medal Match, and new Gold Medal Match and none of them had discernable change in dimensions. The rifle shot "ok", but the "guarantee" was a tourist trap. The ammo isn't capable of 0.250 MOA every time. The guarantee is like a broken clock where the time is right twice a day. Occasionally it put up some good groups, but the average for five five-shot groups is more like 1/2 minute of angle. There were a few other rifles we were shooting at the time that would outshoot it. The price of the rifles is literally hype and marketing. One could build an identical rifle for much less or build a better rifle for less--that is to include better coatings, better chamberings, better actions, better stocks, etc.

I was involved with testing several rifles built for SWAT team service that had been rebarrelled and the reamer spec'd for the FGMM 308 with the Sierra 168. The ammo was at best capable of 1/2" three shot groups...which more than satisfied the requirement, of course. As an experiment, I pulled the bullets on quite a few, reseated them to just touch the rifling and the accuracy picked right up.

The bigger issue was Federal's inconsistent seating depths of the bullets from lot to lot. In the end, all the barrels had the throats lengthened to swallow whatever came out of the FGMM boxes.

Those rifles are still in service and humming along.

Good shootin'

-Al

Al... you are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for that.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Friend had a Tango 51. I was unimpressed. The throat was cut too short and bullets would stick in the chamber if you tried to extract a live round of the recommended factory ammo. The gunsmith, Mike, said that "Federal changed the dimensions of the bullet". The bullet in question was the 168 gr Sierra MatchKing. I had plenty of old 168s, new 168s, old Federal Gold Medal Match, and new Gold Medal Match and none of them had discernable change in dimensions. The rifle shot "ok", but the "guarantee" was a tourist trap. The ammo isn't capable of 0.250 MOA every time. The guarantee is like a broken clock where the time is right twice a day. Occasionally it put up some good groups, but the average for five five-shot groups is more like 1/2 minute of angle. There were a few other rifles we were shooting at the time that would outshoot it. The price of the rifles is literally hype and marketing. One could build an identical rifle for much less or build a better rifle for less--that is to include better coatings, better chamberings, better actions, better stocks, etc.

The issue isn't the length, its the width.
It has nothing to do with tac ops and has to do with Sierras bullets having a huge width variance. It causes issues with any tight match chamber, my Tikka 308 barrel with a match chamber from PVA can't chamber about 2 out of every 100 rounds of fgmm. I though it was length, but my handloads with the same bullet where longer than the round giving me issue so I measured it, and sure enough the ones that are harder to chamber are bigger width wise.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Friend had a Tango 51. I was unimpressed. The throat was cut too short and bullets would stick in the chamber if you tried to extract a live round of the recommended factory ammo. The gunsmith, Mike, said that "Federal changed the dimensions of the bullet". The bullet in question was the 168 gr Sierra MatchKing. I had plenty of old 168s, new 168s, old Federal Gold Medal Match, and new Gold Medal Match and none of them had discernable change in dimensions. The rifle shot "ok", but the "guarantee" was a tourist trap. The ammo isn't capable of 0.250 MOA every time. The guarantee is like a broken clock where the time is right twice a day. Occasionally it put up some good groups, but the average for five five-shot groups is more like 1/2 minute of angle. There were a few other rifles we were shooting at the time that would outshoot it. The price of the rifles is literally hype and marketing. One could build an identical rifle for much less or build a better rifle for less--that is to include better coatings, better chamberings, better actions, better stocks, etc.

The issue isn't the length, its the width.
It has nothing to do with tac ops and has to do with Sierras bullets having a huge width variance. It causes issues with any tight match chamber, my Tikka 308 barrel with a match chamber from PVA can't chamber about 2 out of every 100 rounds of fgmm. I though it was length, but my handloads with the same bullet where longer than the round giving me issue so I measured it, and sure enough the ones that are harder to chamber are bigger width wise.

Frankly, you do not understand the issue.

#1 An "expert" smith making "tactical field guns" shouldn't have the ogive anywhere near the lands.

#2 The width of all the bullets are .308". The "length" in question would be base to ogive.

#3 It is an issue of measuring OAL vs CBTO when setting up length.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Friend had a Tango 51. I was unimpressed. The throat was cut too short and bullets would stick in the chamber if you tried to extract a live round of the recommended factory ammo. The gunsmith, Mike, said that "Federal changed the dimensions of the bullet". The bullet in question was the 168 gr Sierra MatchKing. I had plenty of old 168s, new 168s, old Federal Gold Medal Match, and new Gold Medal Match and none of them had discernable change in dimensions. The rifle shot "ok", but the "guarantee" was a tourist trap. The ammo isn't capable of 0.250 MOA every time. The guarantee is like a broken clock where the time is right twice a day. Occasionally it put up some good groups, but the average for five five-shot groups is more like 1/2 minute of angle. There were a few other rifles we were shooting at the time that would outshoot it. The price of the rifles is literally hype and marketing. One could build an identical rifle for much less or build a better rifle for less--that is to include better coatings, better chamberings, better actions, better stocks, etc.

The issue isn't the length, its the width.
It has nothing to do with tac ops and has to do with Sierras bullets having a huge width variance. It causes issues with any tight match chamber, my Tikka 308 barrel with a match chamber from PVA can't chamber about 2 out of every 100 rounds of fgmm. I though it was length, but my handloads with the same bullet where longer than the round giving me issue so I measured it, and sure enough the ones that are harder to chamber are bigger width wise.

Frankly, you do not understand the issue.

#1 An "expert" smith making "tactical field guns" shouldn't have the ogive anywhere near the lands.

#2 The width of all the bullets are .308". The "length" in question would be base to ogive.

#3 It is an issue of measuring OAL vs CBTO when setting up length.

You’re wrong.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Friend had a Tango 51. I was unimpressed. The throat was cut too short and bullets would stick in the chamber if you tried to extract a live round of the recommended factory ammo. The gunsmith, Mike, said that "Federal changed the dimensions of the bullet". The bullet in question was the 168 gr Sierra MatchKing. I had plenty of old 168s, new 168s, old Federal Gold Medal Match, and new Gold Medal Match and none of them had discernable change in dimensions. The rifle shot "ok", but the "guarantee" was a tourist trap. The ammo isn't capable of 0.250 MOA every time. The guarantee is like a broken clock where the time is right twice a day. Occasionally it put up some good groups, but the average for five five-shot groups is more like 1/2 minute of angle. There were a few other rifles we were shooting at the time that would outshoot it. The price of the rifles is literally hype and marketing. One could build an identical rifle for much less or build a better rifle for less--that is to include better coatings, better chamberings, better actions, better stocks, etc.

The issue isn't the length, its the width.
It has nothing to do with tac ops and has to do with Sierras bullets having a huge width variance. It causes issues with any tight match chamber, my Tikka 308 barrel with a match chamber from PVA can't chamber about 2 out of every 100 rounds of fgmm. I though it was length, but my handloads with the same bullet where longer than the round giving me issue so I measured it, and sure enough the ones that are harder to chamber are bigger width wise.

Frankly, you do not understand the issue.

#1 An "expert" smith making "tactical field guns" shouldn't have the ogive anywhere near the lands.

#2 The width of all the bullets are .308". The "length" in question would be base to ogive.

#3 It is an issue of measuring OAL vs CBTO when setting up length.

You’re wrong.

Show me that Federal is loading Sierra bullets that measure greater than .308" causing them to stick in the chamber.

Sounds like you've got a hard one for TacOps and you're White Knighting for them.

Also, I'd like to know how the smith took it back to use his "updated reamer" and the problems went away. Hmmm...would love to see a Sierra bullet loaded by Federal measuring a significantly larger diameter that it would fail to chamber.

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 International Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/30 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

Spoken from the man himself. Thanks Al.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/0 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

Thanks, Al.

In other words, a tight neck may not chamber, but for a bullet to get stuck in the chamber when a live round is extracted, the throat would need to be tight and/or shallow. Many may choose to load ammo this way, but this should be avoided for a field rifle.

to

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Al... you are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for that.

Not only that but the man has the experience to back it up.

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 International Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/30 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

That might be what I’m talking about, but regardless I had the same issue drop point describes with a match chamber and fgmm from a totally different smith (PVA) that is well regarded and the rifle shoots great, it’s just that I have to force some rounds into the chamber, there was one round that I literally could not chamber, as in I literally couldn’t push the bolt far enough forward to close it.

I thought it was a length issue but my handloads that were with the same bullet (175gr smk) and that were considerably longer from base to ogive than the fgmm chamber just fine. That’s when I made the measurements and found discrepancy. This was back in 2020, 2021 so my memory might not be on point. Regardless, measurements will be posted this week.
I don’t have this issue with my Tac ops, yes the bolt close is tight on some rounds but nothing extreme. It could be different because Im shooting hornady, idk.

Drop point… As far as a tight chamber, you’re not going to be able to consistently hold that level of accuracy with factory unless it is tight to make up for the variance in factory ammo.
Saying that “shouldn’t be done” is simply your opinion, nothing more.

This ^^^ might take the thread to 200 pages or,,,,, kill it to hell n back. Good gosh.

Perfection

Git R Done Buffalo!

Pooch Resting Face

She be pooped out

Vegas Wedding Chapel

Yo Burnsy... where you at boy?

Only 700 yard PD kills, scope was out of elevation. Old pre Rem Bushmaster V-Match. Pre picatinny flattop. A weaver rail screwed on. Thought about 20 moa rings or the like, but hell, 700 was enough for a 50 V Max.

Time to move up to another caliber.

First couple times in the PD towns was most fun I'd had with my clothes on. Except,,, for the damn rattlesnakes. Alert level,,,,, HIGH

A VX or Vari X III bought in 92 or 3, varmint model w/elevation knob, capped windage & an 1/8 min dot reticle'. Worked well in tight quarters Ky. but western prarie dog towns different. Sent back for a fine duplex, the windage wire helping with wind hold offs & another turret for windage. Not normally needed around home with 400 yd. or so shots. It's been a good one, both before & after a trip to the custom shop.

Busy loading the U-Haul for the road trip to the Vegas SHOT Show

No scope...sorry. I'm proud to be the caretaker of this bit of family honor.

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Backstory Al?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

But at least there’s no office drama and plenty of fresh air.

No, just traffic and chit yuppie tractors.

This morning on the way to meet the hay grinder.

Just got this back with a new liljah.
Shot it for the first time yesterday.
And still no Leupold .
Now that we are back on topic carry on……….. grin

2800 came easy with 147’s!

I really like those 3-15 scopes.

A lot of Leupolds here, but biggest investment last year besides a pickup was this;

15.5# gun in a soft case, warned about it. Same day it ripped the zipper & landed butt first on concrete driveway, then on the elevation cap. I was devastated. Changed windage about 3/4 moa low. Bought big dumb Stormcase the next week.
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Originally Posted by Calvin

I really like those 3-15 scopes.

3-15x SFP MQ-DM on an Anschutz works nicely.

Rear locker in the Tacoma worked nicely too, time for some new Toyo’s.

I like them too
Just zero stopped this one and have 31.4 Mils of up left on it

And still no Leupold.
Only 28 Mils of up on this one

Giddy up Buffalo

Nice camera lens.

Originally Posted by MikeS

You can’t post that without some specs

Hard to get a 40mm obj 30mm tube scope down low. But the lowest rail I know of & some Ken Farrell rings did there best.

This custom shop Leupold, 6.5-20x40 side focus with M1 knobs has been a good one.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Vegas Wedding Chapel

Hilarious

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by MikeS

You can’t post that without some specs

That one belongs to a local shooter who owns F-Class Products. He had that and it's 4 twins out Saturday morning. Paragon Actions, Blake Barrels, NF scopes, I think a Cerus stock and a Bix trigger. I assume it is chambered in his 7 FCP Cartridge, but I don't shoot F Class and we usually just talk Elk and Coues hunting.

90 years young...

Our door is always open....

Originally Posted by gunzo

Hard to get a 40mm obj 30mm tube scope down low. But the lowest rail I know of & some Ken Farrell rings did there best.

This custom shop Leupold, 6.5-20x40 side focus with M1 knobs has been a good one.

Like...

Originally Posted by MikeS

First class set up...

I was so caught up in the art on the stock that it took me a while to see a unique trigger guard grip combo.

My first time shooting next to that gentleman. The out of state shooters are in town for the upcoming Southwest Nationals match. I did note that the sunshade on the NightForce references the 2017 World Championships.

My Eliseo stocked Palma rifle in the first photo is ready to rock in that match with it's new Obermyer barrel.

Well SHOT SHOW load in is not up to usual standards.

Saw 2 fork trucks spill loads. Everything jammed up.

Many booths way behind in setup due to slow load in.

Fork trucks moving in my booth got lost and I had to find them in the wilderness and guide them back.

It's like the 24hr Campfire "Brain Trust" was hired by Freeman for the move in.

Good for us we have this stuff nailed, but over many years I have never seen things this bad at SHOT SHOW.

I sort of love CHAOS so it's always fun, this year is a bit more fun.

Any ways who's at SHOT SHOW?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Well SHOT SHOW load

How many loads do you usually take at an average SHOT SHOW?

What are you selling again these days?

Lego guns???

And zhitty suppressors???

What was that scam you were running a few years ago???

Some kinda goofy bedding thing, IIRC???

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Well SHOT SHOW load in is not up to usual standards.

Saw 2 fork trucks spill loads. Everything jammed up.

Many booths way behind in setup due to slow load in.

Fork trucks moving in my booth got lost and I had to find them in the wilderness and guide them back.

It's like the 24hr Campfire "Brain Trust" was hired by Freeman for the move in.

Good for us we have this stuff nailed, but over many years I have never seen things this bad at SHOT SHOW.

I sort of love CHAOS so it's always fun, this year is a bit more fun.

Any ways who's at SHOT SHOW?

Enjoy John. I hope you have a good show.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Well SHOT SHOW load in is not up to usual standards.

Saw 2 fork trucks spill loads. Everything jammed up.

Many booths way behind in setup due to slow load in.

Fork trucks moving in my booth got lost and I had to find them in the wilderness and guide them back.

It's like the 24hr Campfire "Brain Trust" was hired by Freeman for the move in.

Good for us we have this stuff nailed, but over many years I have never seen things this bad at SHOT SHOW.

I sort of love CHAOS so it's always fun, this year is a bit more fun.

Any ways who's at SHOT SHOW?

You couldn’t just carry enough inventory to fil your 16 sqft?

Originally Posted by MikeS

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Originally Posted by MikeS

You can’t post that without some specs

That one belongs to a local shooter who owns F-Class Products. He had that and it's 4 twins out Saturday morning. Paragon Actions, Blake Barrels, NF scopes, I think a Cerus stock and a Bix trigger. I assume it is chambered in his 7 FCP Cartridge, but I don't shoot F Class and we usually just talk Elk and Coues hunting.

That would be Brian Blake.
I've used a barrel or two of his in the 1000 silhouette game.
You'd be hard pressed to find a better barrel.

dave

Big thanks to brother goalie for his generous handmade gift for the kids! Thank you sir.

Brother G is a 5 Star 24hr CF member.

Yep, Bryan makes some great barrels. His action is a recent offering.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 International Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/30 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

That might be what I’m talking about, but regardless I had the same issue drop point describes with a match chamber and fgmm from a totally different smith (PVA) that is well regarded and the rifle shoots great, it’s just that I have to force some rounds into the chamber, there was one round that I literally could not chamber, as in I literally couldn’t push the bolt far enough forward to close it.

I thought it was a length issue but my handloads that were with the same bullet (175gr smk) and that were considerably longer from base to ogive than the fgmm chamber just fine. That’s when I made the measurements and found discrepancy. This was back in 2020, 2021 so my memory might not be on point. Regardless, measurements will be posted this week.
I don’t have this issue with my Tac ops, yes the bolt close is tight on some rounds but nothing extreme. It could be different because Im shooting hornady, idk.

Drop point… As far as a tight chamber, you’re not going to be able to consistently hold that level of accuracy with factory unless it is tight to make up for the variance in factory ammo.
Saying that “shouldn’t be done” is simply your opinion, nothing more.

There again, its a "sniper rifle" not a bench rifle. Rifles that can't chamber the very ammunition it was designed to use aren't accurate, because they won't fire.

TacOps rifles are NOT 1/4MOA rifles. Nor does a rifle have to be unreliable to shoot 1/2 MOA.

Originally Posted by MikeS

Yep, Bryan makes some great barrels. His action is a recent offering.

Ever see that neck turning machine he makes?
Seems like the guy is into everything.
dave

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Big thanks to brother goalie for his generous handmade gift for the kids! Thank you sir.

Brother G is a 5 Star 24hr CF member.

Glad they liked it!!!!

Originally Posted by dave7mm

Originally Posted by MikeS

Yep, Bryan makes some great barrels. His action is a recent offering.

Ever see that neck turning machine he makes?
Seems like the guy is into everything.
dave

I saw what I believe was the prototype being showed off on a tailgate in the Ben Avery 1000 yard range parking lot a few years ago. Wild stuff. I think he may be working on a high end priming tool now.

He has some good videos on YouTube on barrel making etc.

https://www.fclassproducts.com/idod
The idod....
Now available in manual and a CNC model.
You gotta hand it to the guy.
Me thinks someone has access to a lot of CNC milling equipment.....
I used a 6mm 1-8 light Palma barrel for the past two seasons on my 12 pound 6mm BRA.
You just could not ask for more of a barrel.
Coming up I've got a 6.5 GT HV 1-8 ready to screw on when the Hawk Hill that's on it starts fouling to hard to suit me
Two seasons say 1000 to 1400 rounds .
I've gone farther.
Never very successfully...

dave

He is from a a machinist family going way back. Walking through the shop is like a history tour from vintage to modern. Big history with performance car stuff as well.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Big thanks to brother goalie for his generous handmade gift for the kids! Thank you sir.

Brother G is a 5 Star 24hr CF member.

Glad they liked it!!!!

That's really cool!

Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

George Jefferson had an affair..... ?

Weezy gonna be BIG MAD !

LOL

Afternoon.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 International Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/30 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

That might be what I’m talking about, but regardless I had the same issue drop point describes with a match chamber and fgmm from a totally different smith (PVA) that is well regarded and the rifle shoots great, it’s just that I have to force some rounds into the chamber, there was one round that I literally could not chamber, as in I literally couldn’t push the bolt far enough forward to close it.

I thought it was a length issue but my handloads that were with the same bullet (175gr smk) and that were considerably longer from base to ogive than the fgmm chamber just fine. That’s when I made the measurements and found discrepancy. This was back in 2020, 2021 so my memory might not be on point. Regardless, measurements will be posted this week.
I don’t have this issue with my Tac ops, yes the bolt close is tight on some rounds but nothing extreme. It could be different because Im shooting hornady, idk.

Drop point… As far as a tight chamber, you’re not going to be able to consistently hold that level of accuracy with factory unless it is tight to make up for the variance in factory ammo.
Saying that “shouldn’t be done” is simply your opinion, nothing more.

There again, its a "sniper rifle" not a bench rifle. Rifles that can't chamber the very ammunition it was designed to use aren't accurate, because they won't fire.

TacOps rifles are NOT 1/4MOA rifles. Nor does a rifle have to be unreliable to shoot 1/2 MOA.

You’re wrong. It’s a fgmm issue not a Tac ops chamber issue, all kinds of people shooting all kinds of different 308s have the same issue not only in bolt actions chambered by totally different smiths but also in semi autos.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/anyone-had-trouble-chambering-the-new-fgmm-168-or-175%E2%80%99s.7015618/

They are 1/4 moa rifles, maybe you should learn how to shoot that particular stock configuration more before you make a complete judgement.

I went out yesterday to see if it’s still 1/4 moa like it always has been…… surprise surprise, it is.
Could upload pics if this site wasn’t so outdated.
Not paying $8 for photobucket.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 International Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/30 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

That might be what I’m talking about, but regardless I had the same issue drop point describes with a match chamber and fgmm from a totally different smith (PVA) that is well regarded and the rifle shoots great, it’s just that I have to force some rounds into the chamber, there was one round that I literally could not chamber, as in I literally couldn’t push the bolt far enough forward to close it.

I thought it was a length issue but my handloads that were with the same bullet (175gr smk) and that were considerably longer from base to ogive than the fgmm chamber just fine. That’s when I made the measurements and found discrepancy. This was back in 2020, 2021 so my memory might not be on point. Regardless, measurements will be posted this week.
I don’t have this issue with my Tac ops, yes the bolt close is tight on some rounds but nothing extreme. It could be different because Im shooting hornady, idk.

Drop point… As far as a tight chamber, you’re not going to be able to consistently hold that level of accuracy with factory unless it is tight to make up for the variance in factory ammo.
Saying that “shouldn’t be done” is simply your opinion, nothing more.

There again, its a "sniper rifle" not a bench rifle. Rifles that can't chamber the very ammunition it was designed to use aren't accurate, because they won't fire.

TacOps rifles are NOT 1/4MOA rifles. Nor does a rifle have to be unreliable to shoot 1/2 MOA.

You’re wrong. It’s a fgmm issue not a Tac ops chamber issue, all kinds of people shooting all kinds of different 308s have the same issue not only in bolt actions chambered by totally different smiths but also in semi autos.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/anyone-had-trouble-chambering-the-new-fgmm-168-or-175%E2%80%99s.7015618/

They are 1/4 moa rifles, maybe you should learn how to shoot that particular stock configuration more before you make a complete judgement.

I went out yesterday to see if it’s still 1/4 moa like it always has been…… surprise surprise, it is.
Could upload pics if this site wasn’t so outdated.
Not paying $8 for photobucket.

You're full of [bleep]. Mike had to "FIX" the rifle to make it stop happening. You can't tell me SAAMI-spec ammo is a problem, especially when the rifle reamer was designed for that ammo. I'll say it again for your dense little head: THE PROPBLEM WASN'T CHAMBERING! The problem was LIVE ROUND EXTRACTION.

No, the Tac Ops isn't a 1/4 minute rifle. You're a liar. Send me a PM with a video or photo of five consecutive five-round groups and I'll post it for you. No, I don't have to pay any money for an account either. You're just too stupid to figure it out. Doesn't surprise me, when you believe those rifles are that precise. You've already had your little pee-pee smacked about the "bullets" being too "wide".

If you think I can't shoot, I'll invite you to come bring your TacOps to a match. Show everybody how a real 1/4 MOA rifle shoots...

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus

Sierra 168's MK's have always measured .3080-.3081 for shank diameter. This includes the original 168 International Match bullet.

A bigger issue to grasp is throat angle and how it affects where the bullet is in relation to the rifling origins. There's a world of difference between the 'standard' 1 degree/30 minute throat, the 1 degree/45 minute throat and the very common 2 degree/22 minute angle that many reamers have. With the same free bore length, these three different throat angles will show measurable differences to where the contact point of a particular bullet reaches the 'T.P.' (touch point) of the rifling.

I'd state exact figures but most wouldn't believe it anyway.

Also, I've measured FGMM neck diameters that were fully .342 with a bullet seated.

That might be what I’m talking about, but regardless I had the same issue drop point describes with a match chamber and fgmm from a totally different smith (PVA) that is well regarded and the rifle shoots great, it’s just that I have to force some rounds into the chamber, there was one round that I literally could not chamber, as in I literally couldn’t push the bolt far enough forward to close it.

I thought it was a length issue but my handloads that were with the same bullet (175gr smk) and that were considerably longer from base to ogive than the fgmm chamber just fine. That’s when I made the measurements and found discrepancy. This was back in 2020, 2021 so my memory might not be on point. Regardless, measurements will be posted this week.
I don’t have this issue with my Tac ops, yes the bolt close is tight on some rounds but nothing extreme. It could be different because Im shooting hornady, idk.

Drop point… As far as a tight chamber, you’re not going to be able to consistently hold that level of accuracy with factory unless it is tight to make up for the variance in factory ammo.
Saying that “shouldn’t be done” is simply your opinion, nothing more.

There again, its a "sniper rifle" not a bench rifle. Rifles that can't chamber the very ammunition it was designed to use aren't accurate, because they won't fire.

TacOps rifles are NOT 1/4MOA rifles. Nor does a rifle have to be unreliable to shoot 1/2 MOA.

You’re wrong. It’s a fgmm issue not a Tac ops chamber issue, all kinds of people shooting all kinds of different 308s have the same issue not only in bolt actions chambered by totally different smiths but also in semi autos.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/anyone-had-trouble-chambering-the-new-fgmm-168-or-175%E2%80%99s.7015618/

They are 1/4 moa rifles, maybe you should learn how to shoot that particular stock configuration more before you make a complete judgement.

I went out yesterday to see if it’s still 1/4 moa like it always has been…… surprise surprise, it is.
Could upload pics if this site wasn’t so outdated.
Not paying $8 for photobucket.

You're full of [bleep]. Mike had to "FIX" the rifle to make it stop happening. You can't tell me SAAMI-spec ammo is a problem, especially when the rifle reamer was designed for that ammo. I'll say it again for your dense little head: THE PROPBLEM WASN'T CHAMBERING! The problem was LIVE ROUND EXTRACTION.

No, the Tac Ops isn't a 1/4 minute rifle. You're a liar. Send me a PM with a video or photo of five consecutive five-round groups and I'll post it for you. No, I don't have to pay any money for an account either. You're just too stupid to figure it out. Doesn't surprise me, when you believe those rifles are that precise. You've already had your little pee-pee smacked about the "bullets" being too "wide".

If you think I can't shoot, I'll invite you to come bring your TacOps to a match. Show everybody how a real 1/4 MOA rifle shoots...

Pics are on the hide.
Five shots .248 or .251, I also have another five shot group that is .20.
The rounds that gave me issue are back home and I'm trying to have someone measure them again for me.
I've shot several three shot groups back to back in the .1s off a bipod and a squeeze bag.
I can't pm you, pm me your number and I'll text them to you.

The only way for mw to post without a photobucket would be to make the image have no quality, 99 kb, my images are 2 mb

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Pics are on the hide.
Five shots .248 or .251, I also have another five shot group that is .20.
The rounds that gave me issue are back home and I'm trying to have someone measure them again for me.
I've shot several three shot groups back to back in the .1s off a bipod and a squeeze bag.
I can't pm you, pm me your number and I'll text them to you.

The only way for mw to post without a photobucket would be to make the image have no quality, 99 kb, my images are 2 mb

Three shot groups in the .1s don't mean anything.

You're talking about wallet groups, not averages. Post a 5x5.

free online image posting. After you choose yer image use the 3rd up from the bottom option "hot link". That hot link will be copied, paste that copied link into post here. Preview Reply to see if you got it right.

https://postimages.org/

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Pics are on the hide.
Five shots .248 or .251, I also have another five shot group that is .20.
The rounds that gave me issue are back home and I'm trying to have someone measure them again for me.
I've shot several three shot groups back to back in the .1s off a bipod and a squeeze bag.
I can't pm you, pm me your number and I'll text them to you.

The only way for mw to post without a photobucket would be to make the image have no quality, 99 kb, my images are 2 mb

Three shot groups in the .1s don't mean anything.

You're talking about wallet groups, not averages. Post a 5x5.

The guarantee is three shots, no different than GA precision or anybody else, and it meets that.
Again pm me your number. I have 5 shot groups that are 1/4".
You just have a vendetta against tac ops and post the same stuff on every discussion about it.
Why make it five shots? We can arbitrarily increase it x amount but you won't do that for other smiths.
It would be like me saying that GA is crap because their 3/8 moa is only for three shots and that when I shoot it more it's their fault and that they are garbage, that's not how it works and everyone knows it.

How old are you, J2A6X?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

free online image posting. After you choose yer image use the 3rd up from the bottom option "hot link". That hot link will be copied, paste that copied link into post here. Preview Reply to see if you got it right.

https://postimages.org/

https://postimg.cc/gallery/K18cRpv

Originally Posted by drop_point

How old are you, J2A6X?

Under 25, and you?

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Pics are on the hide.
Five shots .248 or .251, I also have another five shot group that is .20.
The rounds that gave me issue are back home and I'm trying to have someone measure them again for me.
I've shot several three shot groups back to back in the .1s off a bipod and a squeeze bag.
I can't pm you, pm me your number and I'll text them to you.

The only way for mw to post without a photobucket would be to make the image have no quality, 99 kb, my images are 2 mb

Three shot groups in the .1s don't mean anything.

You're talking about wallet groups, not averages. Post a 5x5.

The guarantee is three shots, no different than GA precision or anybody else, and it meets that.
Again pm me your number. I have 5 shot groups that are 1/4".
You just have a vendetta against tac ops and post the same stuff on every discussion about it.
Why make it five shots? We can arbitrarily increase it x amount but you won't do that for other smiths.
It would be like me saying that GA is crap because their 3/8 moa is only for three shots and that when I shoot it more it's their fault and that they are garbage, that's not how it works and everyone knows it.

The "guarantee" is meaningless. You had one of the most experienced accuracy shooters in the country even point out that the ammunition isn't capable of the guarantee.

I am not going to send you my phone number. I told you send me a PM and you can e-mail me.

A three-round group doesn't equate to the rifle's accuracy. Nor does a random five-round group. Both are statistically insignificant.

I have a vendetta? Nope, I'm posting my experience with them. No less, no more. People who pay $7,000 for one are getting ripped off.

I didn't bring up "other smiths". Nor did I say any rifle is crap.

Why are you unable to measure your own rounds?

Answer me this, if TacOps rifles are as precise as you say, why has nobody ever won an PRS match, a BR match, or an F-Class match with one?

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

How old are you, J2A6X?

Under 25, and you?

You have a lot to learn, kid. Go out and shoot a 5x5 and get back to us. Or better yet, go shoot a match--I'll be looking for Jake in the leader boards.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Pics are on the hide.
Five shots .248 or .251, I also have another five shot group that is .20.
The rounds that gave me issue are back home and I'm trying to have someone measure them again for me.
I've shot several three shot groups back to back in the .1s off a bipod and a squeeze bag.
I can't pm you, pm me your number and I'll text them to you.

The only way for mw to post without a photobucket would be to make the image have no quality, 99 kb, my images are 2 mb

Three shot groups in the .1s don't mean anything.

You're talking about wallet groups, not averages. Post a 5x5.

Wallet groups…..Laffin’. Im using that one.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Pics are on the hide.
Five shots .248 or .251, I also have another five shot group that is .20.
The rounds that gave me issue are back home and I'm trying to have someone measure them again for me.
I've shot several three shot groups back to back in the .1s off a bipod and a squeeze bag.
I can't pm you, pm me your number and I'll text them to you.

The only way for mw to post without a photobucket would be to make the image have no quality, 99 kb, my images are 2 mb

Three shot groups in the .1s don't mean anything.

You're talking about wallet groups, not averages. Post a 5x5.

The guarantee is three shots, no different than GA precision or anybody else, and it meets that.
Again pm me your number. I have 5 shot groups that are 1/4".
You just have a vendetta against tac ops and post the same stuff on every discussion about it.
Why make it five shots? We can arbitrarily increase it x amount but you won't do that for other smiths.
It would be like me saying that GA is crap because their 3/8 moa is only for three shots and that when I shoot it more it's their fault and that they are garbage, that's not how it works and everyone knows it.

The "guarantee" is meaningless. You had one of the most experienced accuracy shooters in the country even point out that the ammunition isn't capable of the guarantee.

I am not going to send you my phone number. I told you send me a PM and you can e-mail me.

A three-round group doesn't equate to the rifle's accuracy. Nor does a random five-round group. Both are statistically insignificant.

I have a vendetta? Nope, I'm posting my experience with them. No less, no more. People who pay $7,000 for one are getting ripped off.

I didn't bring up "other smiths". Nor did I say any rifle is crap.

Why are you unable to measure your own rounds?

Answer me this, if TacOps rifles are as precise as you say, why has nobody ever won an PRS match, a BR match, or an F-Class match with one?

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice. But if these guns shot so well consistently, you could put it up in F-T/R

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by 6mmCreedmoor

Big thanks to brother goalie for his generous handmade gift for the kids! Thank you sir.

Brother G is a 5 Star 24hr CF member.

Glad they liked it!!!!

They are very happy. Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

That's my gun and I shot those groups, I have more as well.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Why were they holding a gun to a babies head?

You keep practicing and grow up to be an operator, you could get a free hunt in Wyoming with a borrowed gun, and maybe a cool hat.

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what it was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Why were they holding a gun to a babies head?

That's the kind of stuff that LE snipers get called to and shots they have to make.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.

So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?

Originally Posted by jackmountain

You keep practicing and grow up to be an operator, you could get a free hunt in Wyoming with a borrowed gun, and maybe a cool hat.

Lol, I don't envy burns

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.

So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?

You must be drunk or something, go back and read my post, that's why I posted and said it wasn't a tac ops issue.
The rounds wouldn't chamber in my tikka 308 that has a barrel chambered by a totally different smith.

Gotta hand it to Stick: he sure knows how to kick off a thread.

I also posted a thread in which lots of other people had issues with fgmm in guns made by other smiths, even in semi autos

Originally Posted by dassa

Gotta hand it to Stick: he sure knows how to kick off a thread.

He is a funny dude, I wish he posted more bear pics.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by drop_point

Originally Posted by J2A6X

It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.

So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?

You must be drunk or something, go back and read my post, that's why I posted and said it wasn't a tac ops issue.
The rounds wouldn't chamber in my tikka 308 that has a barrel chambered by a totally different smith.

In other words you’ve got no clue what you are talking about. You haven’t had a TacOps .308 much less know how to measure a round because you said the bullet was too big.

Yes, it was an issue with Mike’s chamber job. He fixed it. Rounds that were to spec stuck in the chamber. You’ll defend your purchase to no end don’t you?

Originally Posted by J2A6X

Originally Posted by jackmountain

Why were they holding a gun to a babies head?

That's the kind of stuff that LE snipers get called to and shots they have to make.

Or just shoot the woman holding the baby in some cases.

Originally Posted by J2A6X

I also posted a thread in which lots of other people had issues with fgmm in guns made by other smiths, even in semi autos

And the thread didn’t have any over-size bullets. It was a lot of brass from 2020 that wouldn’t chamber in some rifles. The only person there that measured them showed they were in spec. There was a portion of the neck that was rounded. Separate issue and a decade apart from the issue you linked to.

Again, the issue I described was a bad chamber on a $6000 (in 2012) rifle.