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I don’t jump in these crapfests ever. They can be amusing but you know what they say about wrestling with pigs.

For JohnBurns though … I would hope he understands he comes across as a huge a** hole.

He has to know

I always wonder if pretending I am drunk makes it hurt less?

I have a bunch of Puked Reupold glass that I should yard apart,to see WTF.

Well she got it done (holding the head) so again it's weird to take a picture posing with a head not yours plus posting the picture on the web with no explanation except you're in the picture and holding the head. Added in you have been posting other pictures in this thread acting like you had taken the animals.

I can say you don't add anything to the picture and nobody knew she took the buck until you posted it later.

It's also weird to blur out faces.

So we can assume you didn't take any of the game you posted in the pictures with blurred faces because you sure showed your mug with somebody elses buck.

Strange attempt at a flex?

Any way as this has become a Leupold picture thread here is decent buck Jeff shot. I took the picture but managed to let him hold the head to not be weird.

If you want to have a lash at one, they're pretty basic. The hardest gizmos to have are an assortment of small internal spanners. I use a Lisle 49200 snap ring pliers and file the tips to flats that fit the retainer ring. If the lock ring is really deep, it's no biggie to make longer tips to engage the drive cuts. There's no real standard drive flat size even among the same brands or so it seems.

Good shootin' -Al

Well to be fair it's a pretty big ego. I always wonder if pretending I am drunk makes it hurt less?

I would feel even dumber losing a battle of wits to a guy under the influence but not everybody is the same.

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:


This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.


And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.


Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin' -Al

Elevation and windage adjusters from the same scope as the previously pictured reticle cell. It tracked erratically, especially the windage. It would seemingly move, then stop, then back up or jump forward. It gave it's owner quite a bit of grief on paper and the same traits were seen on my scope checker when I was later asked to check it.

These are the adjusters. If you look closely, you can see there's a little stem of brass inside the middle of the brass insert. This stem is adjusted to be in contact with the erector and move it with adjustment changes. Look even closer...you can see that one stem protrudes from the insert while the other does not:


This is the elevation adjuster. You can faintly see a light mark on the erector where the stem has made contact. So far, so good. The stem could be a a bit further out but not too bad, all in all.


And here is the windage adjuster. Since the stem wasn't adjusted from the factory to be further out than the lower edge of the insert, the entire periphery of the insert bears against the erector tube when adjustments are made. It's already begun to dig into the erector tube as the marks clearly show. Bingo...there's the problem.


Both stems have been readjusted, sealed to prevent movement and a couple other rubs done to the pivot joint. The wear marks on the erector from the windage adjuster aren't a problem since the stem is in the middle of them all around the travel cycle. The majority of the time, this is the cause of tracking problems.....assuming a decent mounting system that's relatively stress free.

Again, this is essentially a new scope with less than 100 rounds on it. Had this scope been checked on a quality scope checker before going on the rifle, this problem would have stuck out like a sore thumb and it could have been returned. He may have gotten a better one as a replacement or they might have tried to fix this one. Not exactly confidence inspiring either way. This is simply poor quality control at the manufacturer's assembly line and a complete disregard of the customer. He didn't want to mess with them as he'd lost confidence. He ordered another brand.

For those interested in this stuff, feel free to copy these images and save them for reference.

Plus, you'll be ahead of the curve when an M.C.P'er (Master Copy Paster) posts these down the road to show people his tooling and jigs.

Good shootin' -Al

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

Sure it's a Leupold bashing post.

Thanks , Brother Al, for sharing your vast optical knowledge .

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.

It’s nice to see this stuff that Al is posting.

This is NOT a Leupold bashing post, just my observation,

Al, I think that you hit the nail on the head.

QUALITY CONTROL....Probably not a priority at Beaverton any longer.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that Leupold is NOT what they used to be. They were THE "go to" scope in the 60's & 70's, but camera manufacturers started not only catching up, but surpassing them in lens' quality & coatings.

Also read that the 3rd or 4th generation of the original family now runs the operation (not sure which) & sometimes THEY cut corners anyway possible for maximum profit. Just the way it goes.