I also posted a thread in which lots of other people had issues with fgmm in guns made by other smiths, even in semi autos
And the thread didn’t have any over-size bullets. It was a lot of brass from 2020 that wouldn’t chamber in some rifles. The only person there that measured them showed they were in spec. There was a portion of the neck that was rounded. Separate issue and a decade apart from the issue you linked to.
Again, the issue I described was a bad chamber on a $6000 (in 2012) rifle.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
That's the kind of stuff that LE snipers get called to and shots they have to make.
Or just shoot the woman holding the baby in some cases.
😂
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it. Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training. Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine. If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it. As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.
I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me. I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.
So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?
As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.
LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.
I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4". I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though. I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent. I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.
Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get. The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage. I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.
You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?
No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.
Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5. You are acting erratic. The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either. The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.
So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?
You must be drunk or something, go back and read my post, that's why I posted and said it wasn't a tac ops issue. The rounds wouldn't chamber in my tikka 308 that has a barrel chambered by a totally different smith.
In other words you’ve got no clue what you are talking about. You haven’t had a TacOps .308 much less know how to measure a round because you said the bullet was too big.
Yes, it was an issue with Mike’s chamber job. He fixed it. Rounds that were to spec stuck in the chamber. You’ll defend your purchase to no end don’t you?
I have a Tac Ops, what are you saying? It's in 6.5 creedmoor and if you knew how to read you would know I've never claimed to have a tac ops in 308. My TIKKA is in 308 and was chambered by a totally different smith and it as well as tons of other people have issues with fgmm. When I had issues with my tikka is when I measured the fgmm.
I specifically stated like 2 pages ago that my tac ops was in 6.5 creedmoor and that it hasn't had those issues. You must be too old to remember what was said yesterday.
So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?
As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.
LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.
I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4". I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though. I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent. I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.
Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get. The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage. I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.
You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?
No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.
Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5. You are acting erratic. The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either. The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.
So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?[/quote]
You must be drunk or something, go back and read my post, that's why I posted and said it wasn't a tac ops issue. The rounds wouldn't chamber in my tikka 308 that has a barrel chambered by a totally different smith.[/quote]
In other words you’ve got no clue what you are talking about. You haven’t had a TacOps .308 much less know how to measure a round because you said the bullet was too big.
Yes, it was an issue with Mike’s chamber job. He fixed it. Rounds that were to spec stuck in the chamber. You’ll defend your purchase to no end don’t you?[/quote]
I have a Tac Ops, what are you saying? It's in 6.5 creedmoor and if you knew how to read you would know I've never claimed to have a tac ops in 308. My TIKKA is in 308 and was chambered by a totally different smith and it as well as tons of other people have issues with fgmm. When I had issues with my tikka is when I measured the fgmm.
I specifically stated like 2 pages ago that my tac ops was in 6.5 creedmoor and that it hasn't had those issues. You must be too old to remember what was said yesterday.[/quote]
Come on, boy. You just said you didn’t say what the rifle was chambered for. Now you said you did two pages ago? It’s still in the quote!!!
Every brand of ammo has had issues but nobody has ever seen Federal .308 loaded with an SMK over .308-.309”.
A rifle that feeds a round from the mag, but don’t extract it without the bullet sticking in the lands and dumping powder has an out-of-spec chamber. Period. Not Federal’s problem.
You may have some out of spec rounds but you’re still missing the issue.
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
Many booths way behind in setup due to slow load in.
Fork trucks moving in my booth got lost and I had to find them in the wilderness and guide them back.
It's like the 24hr Campfire "Brain Trust" was hired by Freeman for the move in.
Good for us we have this stuff nailed, but over many years I have never seen things this bad at SHOT SHOW.
I sort of love CHAOS so it's always fun, this year is a bit more fun.
Any ways who's at SHOT SHOW?
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Enjoy John. I hope you have a good show.
Thanks Paul.
New Flip mount for the AGM StingIR is already a hit. Drop by the AGM Thermal Booth and see it in action for those visiting SHOT SHOW.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
You couldn’t just carry enough inventory to fil your 16 sqft?
We have 200sqft which is still not a large booth. 3 Fork truck loads. 2 video displays. 12 guns on display. Dozens of suppressors. Multiple thermals including rifle mounted and vehicle mounted.
How big is your booth at SHOT SHOW?
Envious much? Yes , Yes you are. But the world needs ditch diggers, too.
I have never seen SHOT SHOW so far behind the curve. Carpet still not down at 5 PM.
Our booth is looking great but some of the big guys will be up all night.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Many booths way behind in setup due to slow load in.
Fork trucks moving in my booth got lost and I had to find them in the wilderness and guide them back.
It's like the 24hr Campfire "Brain Trust" was hired by Freeman for the move in.
Good for us we have this stuff nailed, but over many years I have never seen things this bad at SHOT SHOW.
I sort of love CHAOS so it's always fun, this year is a bit more fun.
Any ways who's at SHOT SHOW?
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Enjoy John. I hope you have a good show.
Thanks Paul.
New Flip mount for the AGM StingIR is already a hit. Drop by the AGM Thermal Booth and see it in action for those visiting SHOT SHOW.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
You couldn’t just carry enough inventory to fil your 16 sqft?
We have 200sqft which is still not a large booth. 3 Fork truck loads. 2 video displays. 12 guns on display. Dozens of suppressors. Multiple thermals including rifle mounted and vehicle mounted.
How big is your booth at SHOT SHOW?
Envious much? Yes , Yes you are. But the world needs ditch diggers, too.
I have never seen SHOT SHOW so far behind the curve. Carpet still not down at 5 PM.
Our booth is looking great but some of the big guys will be up all night.
You’re delusional. One of my clients has a substantial presence in Vegas this week. His contracts with .gov are in the 9 digits. Self made, Sea Bee background that built a business from his garage. 4 days a year are all you have to look forward to.
We have 200sqft which is still not a large booth. 3 Fork truck loads. 2 video displays. 12 guns on display. Dozens of suppressors. Multiple thermals including rifle mounted and vehicle mounted.
How big is your booth at SHOT SHOW?
Envious much? Yes , Yes you are. But the world needs ditch diggers, too.
I have never seen SHOT SHOW so far behind the curve. Carpet still not down at 5 PM.
Our booth is looking great but some of the big guys will be up all night.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
You’re delusional. One of my clients has a substantial presence in Vegas this week. His contracts with .gov are in the 9 digits. Self made, Sea Bee background that built a business from his garage. 4 days a year are all you have to look forward to.
Wow.
One of your clients did some thing.
But YOU didn't do JACK SHIT. You just bitch and whine in ENVY.
It's never not funny.
The world needs ditch diggers, too.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
You’re delusional. One of my clients has a substantial presence in Vegas this week. His contracts with .gov are in the 9 digits. Self made, Sea Bee background that built a business from his garage. 4 days a year are all you have to look forward to.
Says the cuck, supported by his wife, who is not at SHOT
😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
You’re delusional. One of my clients has a substantial presence in Vegas this week. His contracts with .gov are in the 9 digits. Self made, Sea Bee background that built a business from his garage. 4 days a year are all you have to look forward to.
Says the cuck, supported by his wife, who is not at SHOT
😂😂😂
But he works for a guy who is in Vegas?
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
You’re delusional. One of my clients has a substantial presence in Vegas this week. His contracts with .gov are in the 9 digits. Self made, Sea Bee background that built a business from his garage. 4 days a year are all you have to look forward to.
Says the cuck, supported by his wife, who is not at SHOT
😂😂😂
Which would probably hurt the man if it were coming from someone that has a interest in women.