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Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice. But if these guns shot so well consistently, you could put it up in F-T/R

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

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Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

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That's my gun and I shot those groups, I have more as well.

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Originally Posted by J2A6X
Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.


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Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what it was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Why were they holding a gun to a babies head?

That's the kind of stuff that LE snipers get called to and shots they have to make.

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Originally Posted by J2A6X
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Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.


So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
You keep practicing and grow up to be an operator, you could get a free hunt in Wyoming with a borrowed gun, and maybe a cool hat.

Lol, I don't envy burns

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Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
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Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.


So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?


You must be drunk or something, go back and read my post, that's why I posted and said it wasn't a tac ops issue.
The rounds wouldn't chamber in my tikka 308 that has a barrel chambered by a totally different smith.

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I also posted a thread in which lots of other people had issues with fgmm in guns made by other smiths, even in semi autos

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Gotta hand it to Stick: he sure knows how to kick off a thread.

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Originally Posted by J2A6X
Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
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Originally Posted by J2A6X
Originally Posted by drop_point
Originally Posted by J2A6X
It's not any of those rifles, to even shoot in a PRS match with one you would want to heavily modify it.
Weight system, added rails, some sort of round that has less recoil than a 6.5cm, you could run that but there is a reason why everyone is running 6mms with 26" barrels. Then you would burn out your barrel in training.
Most civilians that buy them are people that get it, say wow that's cool and then put it in the safe. That being said the LE snipers have great success with them, which is what they are made for, and LE sniping is different from comps, and even from mil sniping. You wouldn't want a semi auto for LE but for mil it would work just fine.
If I do end up with a 308 from him I guess I could try Tac class prs, I would still modify it.
As far as three rounds groups I have shot them back to back sub 1/4", yes 5 rounds is a better feel for the whole system and that's why I shoot them, but that's not what Tac ops claim is, and nobody does that either.

I'm stationed at a base far from home and didn't bring my Tikka with me, so I had no reason to bring my 308 rounds with me.
I hope to get it soon, I'll have to take leave to do that and I need a scope for it, planning on a used PMII or trying the new mk4hd for it.

So you don't actually own the TacOps you're making claims about?

As far as adding rails, you can take a barreled action and drop it into the chassis of your choice.

LE sniping doesn't require 1/4 MOA.

I do own the tac ops and I can routinely lay down and shoot 1/4".
I'm shooting 6.5 creedmoor with factory hornady ammo. I've shot with some local guys back home that win with prs a lot and they said it was a really accurate gun, it's not a prs gun though.
I wanted to shoot at K&M with it but didn't get the chance. I'll try this year to shoot at least 2 matches with it if I can, everything is 3 hours or more away and not very frequent.
I could throw it into a chassis but I love the stock.

Ummm, when you are trying to not shoot a baby but the dude holding it with a gun to it's head you want as much accuracy as you can get.
The T box is smaller than just someone's head and you need to hit that to make sure they don't twitch and pull the trigger on a hostage.
I'm pretty sure the people that do hostage rescue, and anti terrorism know what they are doing when they select a rifle for that job.

You were shooting this TacOps .308 yesterday, but no longer have access to the rounds?!! Or is your Tac Ops you don’t have access to a 6.5 Creedmoor?

No, the difference between 1/4 MOA and 1/2 MOA doesn’t equal a hill of beans unless the rifle is reliable.

Um what, when did I say the rifle I shot yesterday was a 308? I didn't, I never said what is was chambered in, it's 6.5.
You are acting erratic.
The rifles are reliable, I've never had an issue with mine and the LA county sheriff special teams don't seem to have issues either.
The groups on the sticky targets are the ones I went and shot yesterday, the pic of the gun is from yesterday as well.


So then how did you have Federal .308 not chamber because the bullet was too wide?


You must be drunk or something, go back and read my post, that's why I posted and said it wasn't a tac ops issue.
The rounds wouldn't chamber in my tikka 308 that has a barrel chambered by a totally different smith.


In other words you’ve got no clue what you are talking about. You haven’t had a TacOps .308 much less know how to measure a round because you said the bullet was too big.

Yes, it was an issue with Mike’s chamber job. He fixed it. Rounds that were to spec stuck in the chamber. You’ll defend your purchase to no end don’t you?


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Originally Posted by J2A6X
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Why were they holding a gun to a babies head?

That's the kind of stuff that LE snipers get called to and shots they have to make.

Or just shoot the woman holding the baby in some cases.



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