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I didnt know you could land a plane like that at Livingston. A Lear Jet? The Bozeman airport is only 25 miles away.


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The runway they landed on (4/22) is 5,701ft. × 75 ft, the longest runway they have there.

From what I've read of the jets capabilities and limits, taking off from that airport could be more challenging than landing.

Takeoff Distance: 5600 ft
Landing Distance: 2800 ft

Being it was supposedly being used to haul cargo, I'd guess weight may factor in there with stopping capability, but maybe that's just how it works in my pickup.

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As we used to say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one; a bonus if you can use the airplane again.

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If he was trying for the first ever Guiness World Record landing on a cowpath he missed it by a just a few feet.

Perfectly aligned he might have pulled it off!

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Touched down too far down the runway I'am going too guess.



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The slope where they impacted seems to be pretty steep.
I'd say they were lucky for the "belly Flop impact!
I love the fact that the plane stopped forward motion and then slid sideways down the slope.
For the folks on board, I bet the second sliding movement was as scary as the first.

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I don't see any skid marks in the snow. I wonder how he managed that. OTOH, I'll bet there are plenty of skid marks in the seats.


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Probably made approach too hot and overran the runway! Skid marks seen in the snow!


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Originally Posted by TheKid
While not ideal it appears to have been a good landing.

How can you say that?

Also, the media never gets anything aviation related correct. They didn't "miss" the runway, they slid off it having previously being on it...


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Originally Posted by GF1
As we used to say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one; a bonus if you can use the airplane again.

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Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by TheKid
While not ideal it appears to have been a good landing.

How can you say that?

Also, the media never gets anything aviation related correct. They didn't "miss" the runway, they slid off it having previously being on it...
To additionally add perspective, the picture is taken from the end of said runway. If I think of it later when I'm on the PC, I'll get a screenshot of Google Earth that shows the site and runway. Regarding no marks in the snow, maybe it happened before it snowed.

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Curious how much flight time the crew had. A lot of small cargo and charters have very inexperienced crews who are looking to gain time to move up to airlines.

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Looks to me that the craft went down the bank at hand and nose up the hill it’s on until it turned to port 90 degrees and slid down to where it is now. The dark ground scorched by the still active engines until it came to rest.

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I was gonna say, "The pilot, Dr. John Doe, age 84. "

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Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by TheKid
While not ideal it appears to have been a good landing.

How can you say that?

Also, the media never gets anything aviation related correct. They didn't "miss" the runway, they slid off it having previously being on it...
Guy I used to fly with always said if we walk away from it it’s a good landing. Since it doesn’t appear that the aircraft in question was on fire or scattered in small pieces I presume they limped away from it.

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Originally Posted by TheKid
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by TheKid
While not ideal it appears to have been a good landing.

How can you say that?

Also, the media never gets anything aviation related correct. They didn't "miss" the runway, they slid off it having previously being on it...
Guy I used to fly with always said if we walk away from it it’s a good landing. Since it doesn’t appear that the aircraft in question was on fire or scattered in small pieces I presume they limped away from it.

You have a pretty low bar for what you consider to be a "good landing"...


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Yeah...to bad they weren't injured.


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