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Have confidence in what you carry.

I totally agree. I've had many extractor failures with the 700's and 722's. Won't buy another one. Judging by some of these comments, no one has ever had an extractor fail on them? Or they don't want to admit it.

Got them both. Don't give a chit...

Prefer a bullet proof '98 tho. Got one of them too.

Only broken/failed extractor I've ever had was on my 725 SA. Replacement 700 extractoir fixed that.

Don't think a .260 is the best bear gun tho.

none of my 700 factory barreled rifles ever had a failure

All the customized 700's in my wildcats either had Sako or M16 extractors installed

HEY- I re-soldered the handle back on my .243 700. (2nd one I've done). I have confidence in it.... I know it's GTG

"I've had many extractor failures with the 700's and 722's."

Really?

I have more than a few of both. I guess I would pick the one chambered for the cartridge I decided to use. That simple. Mb

No you haven’t.

Agreed. If bullzchit was music......

Preface: my bolt guns are all CRF right now, but I've never shot at anything that would eat me (at least, not while I was alive). In theory, having CRF for dangerous game makes perfect sense. But I'm guessing the vast majority of it in America has been killed without CRF and folks didn't get eaten (Rem 700 + Remington pumps + Marlin 336 + Winchester lever guns has to have killed more cougars and bears than M70s just based on availability and volume, right?)...

I don't buy into the CRF hype and the 700 BDL to my eyes is the handsomest rifle I've seen

I have a few of both push feed versions, not much difference at all. The controll feed versions of Wins are different on a plus and also a minus basis.

The cure to the ills of the CF Wins and the 98 Mauser both for a DG rifle is the action that combines the pluses of both rifle styles into one action, the 1999 Montana Rifle Co action, if you can find one to build on. The MRC bunch was supposed to get back into production in late 2023. I have four custom rifles I built on 1999 MRC actions. They make a real good DG rifle, when done correctly.

Same.. P64 in a Legend...

I prefer M70's. The safety, old style trigger, easy bolt disassembly, and extraction system in either CRF or PF all count for me.
For Alaskan bear my SS Classic in .338 would work. Frankly, I would prefer my Talkeetna with its 21 in barrel
M70s in .375 tend to be heavier than I like.

For deer, a M70 FW works well. Pretty much any kind. Some of the PF's from the late 80's are especially nice.

As far as extractor failures I have been involved with two on 700's, none on M70's.

The biggest issue I have seen is with 700's. Folks fail to clean the bolt and you get failures to fire. We see this afew times each year at our sight in days.

M70 SS Classic with the old style trigger (simple hook and lever). I'd have the bolt pinned and action worked over. Then I'd stick it Echols or Bansner. Scope of you choice but I'd prob go NF SHV 2.5-10x42 for bear work.

I will stick to my Mod 70's. After all it is a personal choice. And if memory serves me correctly wasn't there a big lawsuit and recall on the 700 safeties and triggers???

I failed to mention the much better (IMO) safety of the Model 70 Winchester! That alone is a deal breaker for me! memtb

I’ve owned a few of both, still do actually. All have been older models.
I would probably grab the XTR first but really the 700’s are not to be denied. Close my eyes and choose, either would suit me.

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With me it's most likely 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. I have both with the M70s all push feeds with one exception. It's an M70 Stainless Classic .338 Win. Mag. and frankly, I hate it. It's too light for the cartridge and literally beats me to death.

I do like the M70 XTRs. Mine are .270 Win., 257 Roberts and a 7x57. The .270 and 7x57 are tack drivers but I have yet to find something that makes the .257 happy. Most have been used as range rifles but the .270 and 7x57 have done a couple of hunts.

I don't dislike the Remington M700 but I am a touch leery about their extractors. Hey used the same style in the M660 and I had one fail in a deer hunt. I like the feel of the BGL and the Classic also feels pretty good. The BDL and one Classice are in 30-06 and the other Classic is a .35 Whelen. I'n gonna have to replace the recoil pad on the .35 as the original has literally turned to stone.

I have other post 64 aand post 68 M70s ranging from .243 to .338 Win. magnums and i'd hunt them and not get too worried as long as the chambering is suitable for the game hunted.

However, most of the time one of those rifles is used more as a back up to one of my chosen serious hunting rifles which are based on milsurp and commercial FN Mauser actions. Just my personal preference. the only failure I've ever had on a hunt was when the scope turned toes up on me while checking the sights in New Mexico the day before my elk hunt was to start. Rifle is based on an Oberndorf action and runs slicker'n snot on a doorknob. Back up was a 30-06 custom based on a commercial FN Mauser action.

For the record, prior to 2009, all my hunts were self guided. Couldn't get drawn for antelope in my home state and the outfitter wouldn't allow my Ruger #1 in .300 Win. Mag for the hunt. He does not like single shot rifles. I used a Winchester M70 XTR and took my speed goat at a way out yonder 75 yards. I did all my cow elk hunts with my .35 Whelen Mauser and one or another of my rifles based on Mauser actions. I just want a riffle I know will work 100 % of the time so while the M70 and M700 do work well, I'll tick with my rifles based on the M98 mauser; especially if the critter decided to bite back.
PJ

PJGunner, I’d sure like to relieve you of that Model 70 SS CRF .338 WM, but we don’t need it……so says my wife! 😉 She has essentially the same rifle, and doesn’t want to replace her “push feed” SS .338 WM just to have the CRF version.

She’d have the CRF version, had there been one available when we grabbed her rifle at a gun show back in ‘95. memtb