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Anyone with a CDL hazmat endorsment use it for TSA precheck? Never done it, but want to figure out how. Just wondering if anyone has tried it.

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No but didn't realize my TWIC card got me through so this time will use that.

Have to enter the known number making the reservation and after that according to friends its just smooth sailing.


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Originally Posted by rost495
No but didn't realize my TWIC card got me through so this time will use that.

Have to enter the known number making the reservation and after that according to friends its just smooth sailing.

Same here. Guess they started allowing it 2020ish. Going to see if I can add my KTN to an existing reservation.

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Basically use your state initials plus Driver's License number as the known number when booking flight - if allowed (not all states do I guess?) it will print your boarding pass with the pre-check identifier. I've not tried it as I dropped Hazmat years ago - almost put it back on here recently. Plan on flashing the TWIC instead.


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Originally Posted by Teal
Basically use your state initials plus Driver's License number as the known number when booking flight - if allowed (not all states do I guess?) it will print your boarding pass with the pre-check identifier.

I just logged in and there was a place to add it. We'll see if it shows up on my boarding pass. Hopefully since I'm still 3 weeks out they'll get it done.

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I'm sorta hoping but doubt it - TWIC and all that jazz helps put a Form 4 approval down towards the "shorter" aspect of the time it takes to get back.


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Well, AA accepted it so now to see if it makes it to my boarding pass. I'll try to remember to update the thread when I actually fly out.

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I have a TWIC card that doubles as a pre-check certification. A CDL dosen't mean anything in NM for air travel purposes, as far as I know, but the TWIC does.

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Originally Posted by Sprint11
I have a TWIC card that doubles as a pre-check certification. A CDL dosen't mean anything in NM for air travel purposes, as far as I know, but the TWIC does.

AFAIK - the only way to get a HazMat endorsement is to have the CDL. It's not really the CDL that's helping but the Hazmat background check which is apparently the same as PreCheck.


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I use a Twic card

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Originally Posted by thirtyotsix
I use a Twic card

But you have to give the CIN number listed on your boarding pass when you book a flight, otherwise they will send you to the standard TSA line

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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Sprint11
I have a TWIC card that doubles as a pre-check certification. A CDL dosen't mean anything in NM for air travel purposes, as far as I know, but the TWIC does.

AFAIK - the only way to get a HazMat endorsement is to have the CDL. It's not really the CDL that's helping but the Hazmat background check which is apparently the same as PreCheck.


The hazmat has nothing to do with-other than being required for the TWIC card. It's the TWIC that qualifies as pre-check, not the hazmat endorsement.

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Originally Posted by Sprint11
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Sprint11
I have a TWIC card that doubles as a pre-check certification. A CDL dosen't mean anything in NM for air travel purposes, as far as I know, but the TWIC does.

AFAIK - the only way to get a HazMat endorsement is to have the CDL. It's not really the CDL that's helping but the Hazmat background check which is apparently the same as PreCheck.


The hazmat has nothing to do with-other than being required for the TWIC card. It's the TWIC that qualifies as pre-check, not the hazmat endorsement.

I have no Hazmat and I have a TWIC - right now, in my hands. HME is not required for TWIC because a CDL is not required for TWIC (port workers, crane operators, paper shufflers etc). HME is an endorsement that goes along with the CDL, not something on its own.


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The Hazardous Materials Endorsement Threat Assessment Program conducts a threat assessment for any driver seeking to obtain, renew and transfer a hazardous materials endorsement on a state-issued commercial driver’s license. You should apply if you have a state-issued CDL and you are required to transport materials that require placarding under the Department of Transportation hazardous materials regulations.

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CDL holders with an active HME security threat assessment, and who meet the eligibility requirements for the TSA PreCheck Application Program may be eligible for expedited screening.

In addition, CDL HME holders must:

Be a U.S. citizen, U.S. lawful permanent resident, or U.S. national
Be approved for an HME outside TSA’s waiver process
Not be under investigation as a result of TSA’s recurrent vetting
In order to participate in TSA PreCheck, HME holders should use the two-letter State abbreviation followed by the CDL number printed on their state-issued CDL and enter it in the known traveler number field of airline reservations made with a participating airline or in airline profiles. Visit TSA PreCheck for HME for more information.

The bold part is what I stated earlier in this thread.

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You can have Hazmat and no TWIC - either are acceptable for precheck, you do not need to have both.

Originally Posted by TSA
Active TWIC® and HME holders can use their credentials to obtain TSA PreCheck™
National Press Release
Wednesday, July 8, 2020
WASHINGTON – The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) expands TSA PreCheck™ eligibility to all active Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC®) and Hazardous Materials Endorsement (HME) holders who are U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals or lawful permanent residents.

“This new benefit immediately allows nearly 3.5 million individuals to obtain TSA PreCheck at no additional cost beyond what they have already paid for their credentials,” said TSA Executive Assistant Administrator for Operations Support Stacey Fitzmaurice.

Applicable TWIC® and HME holders may now use those credentials to obtain TSA PreCheck when taking a flight. For those with active credentials, not obtained via waiver, the benefit is effective immediately.

TWIC® and HME populations have already paid for, and successfully completed, a security threat assessment comparable to the TSA PreCheck security threat assessment. TWIC® is required by the Maritime Transportation Security Act for workers who need access to secure areas of the nation’s maritime facilities and vessels. The HME Program is for individuals seeking to obtain, renew or transfer an HME on a state-issued Commercial Driver’s License (CDL), allowing them to transport hazardous materials in commerce.

TWIC® and HME holders can obtain TSA PreCheck expedited screening by entering the identification numbers printed on their TWIC® card or state-issued CDL during the airline reservation process. Active TWIC® card holders enter their TWIC® credential identification number (CIN) in the known traveler number (KTN) field of their airline reservation. The CIN is printed on the back of each TWIC® card in the lower left-hand corner. Active HME holders enter the two-letter state abbreviation and CDL identification number from their state-issued commercial driver’s license in the appropriate KTN field. (For example: NY12345678.)

TSA PreCheck is an expedited screening program offered by TSA that allows travelers to leave on their shoes, light outerwear and belt, keep their laptop in its case and their food and 3-1-1 compliant liquids/gels bag in a carry-on, in select TSA airport checkpoint screening lanes. More than 200 airports participate in TSA PreCheck nationwide and dozens of airlines participate in the popular program.

To learn more about TSA PreCheck, visit the TSA PreCheck Frequently Asked Questions page. For more information on TSA PreCheck for TWIC® and HME holders, visit the TWIC® page or HME page.


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Roger all that Teal. I think I’ll be in like Flynn. I realize I’m dealing with the TSA and it could be a total CF, but I’m going to give it a go with low expectations.

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Good info Teal. Thanks for explaining the different factors and relationships for each qualification.

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Originally Posted by Sprint11
Good info Teal. Thanks for explaining the different factors and relationships for each qualification.

No worries - it's confusing a fahk and frankly there are way too many cards/exceptions and programs. If everyone can get some sort of card to skip the sexual assault errrr TSA pat down, then why have it?


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I have my cdl and have kept it active even though I don’t use it anymore,last renewal i dropped my hazmat because when i did the qualifying thing after having to drive 2 hrs to greenville to do it , they told me if i wanted to use it for the pre check i will have to do the same process and pay another $90. I thought what another stupid govt over reach. Or maybe just dumb person behind the counter who knows. Im glad to hear it is possible to use the endorsement for the pre check now.


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at least I never need it in Fairbanks. Every time I have flown there I"ve been less than 3 in line and usually I"m the first.

But flying out of Austin is another story.

As to the pat downs, it really doesn't bother me in the least so far. But YMMV. Even though its all a joke. I would rather be able to carry on a flight than to go through silly TSA stuff.

OTOH when was the last hijacking of a US flight?


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Originally Posted by rost495
OTOH when was the last hijacking of a US flight?

I would contend that the passenger take overs of problem people on flights have more to do with that than TSA. Take over a flight, people now fight back because the immediate thought is "I'm already dead" - there's no Delta Force movie type mentality of "comply and someone will save us".

Those that would take them over know the results are basically suicide.


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